Broncos Release Nine Players; Place G McChesney On Injured Reserve
by Tim Lynch on Sep 4, 2009 4:00 PM MDT
in Denver Broncos Roster Moves
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PrintENGLEWOOD, Colo. — The Denver Broncos on Friday released nine players and placed guard Matt McChesney on their reserve/injured list, it was announced.
The following nine players were released by Denver on Friday:
| Released September 4, 2009 | ||
| Player | NFL Exp. | College |
| DL Matthias Askew | 3 | Michigan State |
| G Kory Lichtensteiger | 2 | Bowling Green State |
| QB Ingle Martin | 3 | Furman |
| CB Rashod Moulton | 1 | Fort Valley State |
| T Clint Oldenburg | 2 | Colorado State |
| DL Carlton Powell | 2 | Virginia Tech |
| ILB Lee Robinson | R | Alcorn State |
| WR Nate Swift | R | Nebraska |
| RB Marcus Thomas | 2 | Texas-El Paso |
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Ingle
We hardly knew ye.
(Not that we were all that impressed when we did see ye.)
The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".
Practice squad predictions
Mine include Askew, Robinson and Swift.
The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".
Wish this had been posted
BEFORE I typed in my guess as to the final 53. Crud, two of mine are gone right off the bat.
"The best defense is a good offense. Or is it the other way around." Wolverine
Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and know you will come down somewhere between the two.
Livin' in La La Land and Lovin' It
I'm glad this was posted before I typed out my final 53
Seriously. That was what I was going to do. I’m just slow.
"If people define situations as real, they are real in their consequences". W. I. Thomas
Nothing suprising
I think we need to see about getting some draft picks by trading Scheffler and Stokely. They have some value
I ride the short bus!
What the hell are you talking about?
I realize drug use is rampant in crime-plagued Chicago, but lay off the chemicals man.
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Calm down man...
We already traded Jay Cutler, how strange could his proposal be?! lol
Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.
LOL
It is better to keep silent, and appear to be wise, then to ramble on and remove all doubt! The Wisest Man, Solomon.
OK, so we have to release them and let them clear waivers before we can put them on the PS? Is that how it works?
Because I want Robinson, Askew, and Swift on there as well…
I'm not sure is Askew is still eligible for the PS.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun" - Ash from Army of Darkness
"H.I., you're young and you got your health, what you want with a job?" - Evelle from Raising Arizona
"It happens sometimes. People just explode. Natural causes." - Agent Rogersz from Repoman
Matthias Askew, Clint Oldenburg, Nate Swift, Marcus Thomas,and Lee Robinson are PS eligible.
"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"We don't stop playing because we grow old; We grow old because we stop playing." -- George Bernard Shaw
we have good depth at those positions and they are the only ones with trade value
I ride the short bus!
We don't have
good depth at TE, we are in perfect situation with 1 great blocking TE, one great receiving TE, and one rookie. There’s no need to trade Scheffler at this point, his value to the team far exceeds what they’d get back.
Stokely is a very useful guy to have around, especially without knowing what will happen with the other Brandon.
The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".
Nine down and
still around 13 or 14 to get to the 53 man roster. I really would have liked Robison to make it through, but, maybe practice squad and some more experience.
So much for the Carlton Powell X-factor theory
Maybe he should of made sure to go to the same HS as the HC.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun" - Ash from Army of Darkness
"H.I., you're young and you got your health, what you want with a job?" - Evelle from Raising Arizona
"It happens sometimes. People just explode. Natural causes." - Agent Rogersz from Repoman
I projected him as the starting place kicker ;)
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun" - Ash from Army of Darkness
"H.I., you're young and you got your health, what you want with a job?" - Evelle from Raising Arizona
"It happens sometimes. People just explode. Natural causes." - Agent Rogersz from Repoman
I did also NYC
I’m very surprised he didn’t have a good showing.
Guardian of the Gate to La La Land!
Gonsoulin, Taylor, Little, Wright, Gradishar, Atwater, Davis, and Sharpe...
Why are they not in the Hall...I just don't understand.
Most of us had him on rosters until recently
I say until recently because I concluded he was gone last night, when I was pondering a write-up on this subject.
Powell had produced exactly zero statistics in the pre-season, from what I’ve seen, so that tells you how likely his chances were.
I’ll go on a small limb here and say that Moss and Crowder will not be cut. Why? Just look at their production from last night’s game.
We still have another half of the 24 (includes Marshall, who didn’t) final cutdown coming. It would still be interesting to see what people think the final roster will look like. MAKE YOUR PREDICTIONS, EVERYONE!!!!
"If people define situations as real, they are real in their consequences". W. I. Thomas
And so it begins... :(
I hate this part of the year. But at least it only lasts a couple of days LOL
A proud prognostication of 10-6 in 2009!!!
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence."
John Adams
I am surprised they got rid of K-Lich
To me he is a lot better than the Olson kid, I would of waived him and sent him to the PS.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun" - Ash from Army of Darkness
"H.I., you're young and you got your health, what you want with a job?" - Evelle from Raising Arizona
"It happens sometimes. People just explode. Natural causes." - Agent Rogersz from Repoman
I was surprised, too
but I’d think there’s a possibility he’ll show up on the practice squad. Isn’t release and waive the same thing? Doesn’t he have to clear waivers before they can sign him to the PS?
"Surprised to see you, Captain, though pleased." — from Star Trek episode Space Seed.
I don't think he will be eligible for the PS, since he was on the active roster last year
But you are correct, he does have to clear waivers first and then he can be put on the PS.
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun" - Ash from Army of Darkness
"H.I., you're young and you got your health, what you want with a job?" - Evelle from Raising Arizona
"It happens sometimes. People just explode. Natural causes." - Agent Rogersz from Repoman
You're right
He was on the roster the whole year. I’m pretty sure that means he’s not PS eligible.
"Surprised to see you, Captain, though pleased." — from Star Trek episode Space Seed.
Agree
Biggest surprise for me was Lichtensteiger.
Coming in a close 2nd would be Askew and Powell
I just hope Robinson and Swift make it to the PS
Quit drinking the Kool-Aid and start drinking the good stuff, and everything is always alright.
by Chuck "DeadDrunk" Breedlove on Sep 4, 2009 4:47 PM MDT up reply actions
He may have been in..
Until he decided to prematurely snap that ball on 4th and goal last night….CUT.
Peace!
by BringBackOrange on Sep 4, 2009 5:15 PM MDT up reply actions
Me too
especially since they let Schlueter go. It appears that Ben Hamilton will backup Casey at center.
"You give 100 percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left." – Yogi Berra
"We don't stop playing because we grow old; We grow old because we stop playing." -- George Bernard Shaw
Here's my concern
Those two (Casey and Ben) are the two oldest and most likely to miss time on the line. I’m guessing that they’re confident that Hochstein can back up if both have to miss a game.
by BroncosBassist on Sep 4, 2009 9:01 PM MDT up reply actions
linebacker
just read that one of the players beleived to have been released by the Steelers is Bruce Davis, 3rd round pick last year. I’d at least try and PS him.
Quit drinking the Kool-Aid and start drinking the good stuff, and everything is always alright.
by Chuck "DeadDrunk" Breedlove on Sep 4, 2009 5:00 PM MDT reply actions
Sorry I meant 2 years ago.
Quit drinking the Kool-Aid and start drinking the good stuff, and everything is always alright.
by Chuck "DeadDrunk" Breedlove on Sep 4, 2009 5:02 PM MDT up reply actions
Steelers are a very good bet for upgrades
They have one of the most stable rosters in football. Each year they draft players in the 3rd -5th rounds that can’t catch on because their squad is already so deep – nice problem to have, eh?
Hillis/Moreno in '09
Waivers
If another team picks up a player on waivers, does that team who claims the player have to place the player on the 53 man roster?
This is our team, let's have fun with it! - dmitchell624
I could be wrong
but I thought you were only required to put them on the 53 man roster if you took them off another team’s practice squad.
by 47RulesofHighlyEffectiveBankRobbers on Sep 4, 2009 5:56 PM MDT up reply actions
CORRECT
If we have space then we can snatch the player. I’m betting that we bring in at least one player. I’m not exactly sure at this point what positions we’ll add to.
"If people define situations as real, they are real in their consequences". W. I. Thomas
I think...
That if you claim them off of waivers, you have to sign them to the active roster. PS is sort of like free agency, isn’t it, where anyone can sign anyone they want?
by BroncosBassist on Sep 4, 2009 9:03 PM MDT up reply actions
not for these cuts
there isn’t even a practice squad to sign them too, so how it works is the Broncos (all teams) get to resign 8 guys once they cut down to 53—I’m sure there are specific dates and times involved. They are then allowed to designate those eight guys as the scout team.
And you are right, a PS player is still technically a free agent, but it is a unique variety subject to PS rules.
Precision in thought, concision in style, decision in life.
by Jeremy Bolander on Sep 4, 2009 10:16 PM MDT up reply actions
The waiver period just means...
That the lowest ranked team gets first dibs to put a player on there Practice squad.
Basically, if the Steelers released a RB, hoping he’d pass waivers, the broncos put in a waiver for said RB, and the Lions put in a waiver, he’d goto the lions practive squad.
Quit drinking the Kool-Aid and start drinking the good stuff, and everything is always alright.
by Chuck "DeadDrunk" Breedlove on Sep 4, 2009 10:45 PM MDT up reply actions
Something to make you feel better
(about the Broncos receiving corps, with or without Marshall):
The Raiders probable WR depth chart, from SFGate, listed in order of rank:
Chaz Schilens, Darrius Heyward-Bey, Javon Walker, Louis Murphy, Johnnie Lee Higgins, Jonathan Holland.
The commenter formerly known as "Dashiell".
Remarks to comments, cuts
Carlton Powell really did not show much. Matthias Askew is 30 and young guys in front of him.
Once a 7th was given for Russ Hochstein, who also can play center, and Seth Olson being a stud on the OL, meant Kory’s number was up. Main rap on him is that he has very short arms.
IMO they are not holding vets for backups but more to the possiblity of a trade.
Two guys that I hope pass waviers are Lee Robinson and Nate Swift. They are great for the PS.
Swift won't
It is better to keep silent, and appear to be wise, then to ramble on and remove all doubt! The Wisest Man, Solomon.
I'm guessing he will, not to be contrary
Swift is playing a position that is very well populated, and with receivers who run faster. All the spread offenses in college now means that there are lots of WRs.
He stands a good chance — as good as any we cut — of coming back on the PS, but it will depend on who is out there. Xanders, et al, have been very active at bringing in people, so there’s still a very good chance we’ll see new faces. They may land on our PS, since everyone who’s cut is a possible PS member, but there may be non-PS eligible players who make our 53 — even now.
"If people define situations as real, they are real in their consequences". W. I. Thomas
Xanders
Excellent point that this is an extremely busy time of year for Xanders. McD has neither the experience nor the time to evaluate players cut from other teams.
McDaniels lets Xanders & personnel know what he needs
It’s not as if McDaniels wouldn’t have opinions on personnel he has personally game planned against or observed but it’s ridiculous to think that he’s got the time to track everyone else’s players right now.
I tried to get this point across recently. We’ve got some very good people who track players on other teams, and it’s an all day job. The only way the “McDaniels is doing everything” line works is because most people don’t know this.
He is now responsible for joining General Manager Brian Xanders and Director of Pro Personnel Keith Kidd in the scouting and planning of unrestricted, restricted and street free-agent acquisitions as well as scouting weekly opponents. His duties include the scouting of players for potential trades, released players from around the NFL,
"If people define situations as real, they are real in their consequences". W. I. Thomas
Only surprise
and I guess after consideration, not really all that of a big one is Marcus Thomas. Pretty much had this pegged all along, as well as the rest of you, I’m sure. Our team is materializing much in the way (we) knew it would. Let’s get ready for some FOOTBALL!
I’ve decided to block out whatever the masses are reporting and just watch and listen with my own eyes and ears. I remember a time when the Dolphins and Falcons were at the bottom of the proverbial barrell……………………………………………….
GO DENVER MF BRONCOSTake my advice, I'm not using it !!!
Our team IS materializing...+1
It is better to keep silent, and appear to be wise, then to ramble on and remove all doubt! The Wisest Man, Solomon.
LOL ... When I saw the name Marcus Thomas I almost fell over backwards (if my chair would allow)
I forgot we picked up a running back with the same name.
Guardian of the Gate to La La Land!
Gonsoulin, Taylor, Little, Wright, Gradishar, Atwater, Davis, and Sharpe...
Why are they not in the Hall...I just don't understand.
Don’t be surprised if the other Marcus Thomas is on the list tomorrow. He’s done nothing special this offseason and still can’t stay healthy. I don’t buy him being capable of playing the DE in a 3-4 and he’s not unseating Baker or Fields.
EL
by the time the dust settles (sometime this season) Marcus will be starting.
Guardian of the Gate to La La Land!
Gonsoulin, Taylor, Little, Wright, Gradishar, Atwater, Davis, and Sharpe...
Why are they not in the Hall...I just don't understand.
Really no surprises
When Lichtensteiger botched that snap last night, I knew he was gone. I was sitting in section 523, and I could see the look on McDaniels’ face from there.
Nate Swift may not have been cut, but watching him field punts, which is the only place he would have any real value IMO, I knew he was gone as well. That was painful to watch.
"You were born to be a player. You were meant to be here. This moment is yours." -- Coach Herb Brooks' pregame speech prior to the Miracle on Ice
Eddie is still going to be the main Punt Returner next year, with Zo taking some too. I doubt that counted against Swift’s evaluation. He was ahead of Jackson on the depth chart last week, so it’s kind of a surprise to see him go. Jackson has looked pretty terrible, but as the cliche goes.. ‘he knows the system’. I bet Swift gets PS’d.
Carlton...
…is an exemplary gentleman, as proven by his cordial correspondence with all his fans on Twitter. I’m not going to question the team’s opinion on his playing chops, but since he’s just a plan great guy I hope he catches on somewhere else.
He made huge strides this offseason coming back from his torn achilles, though his best shot to make the team was at NT and that wasn’t going to coincide with his build. He’s not a hog. He’s almost built like a linebacker.
plain* great guy is obviously what I meant. I really wish SBNation would leave the list of forms that don’t have an edit option. Though is it even really a list when they’re the only one one it? :P
never give up!
even with all of our 100% trying, we all still ONLY know half the battle! somewhere, somehow that’ll make sense.
Take my advice, I'm not using it !!!
About McChesney...
Is he actually hurt or is it just a phantom injury to keep him on the team without taking up a roster spot? He’s a prototypical New England-style OL. BIg, ugly, dirty and mean. Me rikey.
Someone said they're working on an injury settlement
That would indicate that they are planning to cut him lose once that’s done.
by BroncosBassist on Sep 4, 2009 9:10 PM MDT up reply actions
None of them will be on PS
My guess is that those whom the Broncos want to be on the PS will be announced tomorrow, much closer to the deadline. I don’t think they would want the PS candidates to be out there for the picking by other teams so early in the process.
it could be the opposite ...
What if we cut them early hoping teams are still concentrating on who they want on their own team? What I mean is, maybe we cut them early in hope that teams haven’t made their final decisions on their own players yet and they aren’t willing to rush their process in order to sign our players?
Just a thought.
To all you Jordan detractors...
…how do you explain the fact that he didn’t even get a chance to earn his job in the 4th game? That’s because it was already earned. He was on the sideline with a headset on.. he’s a de facto OC out there. He knows the system backwards and forwards.
Walker needed to do something spectacular to make it worth keeping 5 RBs. Maybe the Broncos still do, but there’s no way in Oakland he makes the team in LaMont’s stead.
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