Never Underestimate the Rookie HC
MYTH: When a new coach comes to town, sometimes it takes a little while before things begin to look up.....No, no it does not.
Starting in 2004, lets review the last several years of coaching change in the NFL.
2004: 7 coaching changes occurred; within 2 yrs Coughlin, Gibbs, Lovie Smith, and Jim Mora had taken their teams to the playoffs; one (Mora) to the AFC Championship in his first year..... 4/7 were a success.
2005: 3 coaching changes occurred; all three coaches are now fired
2006: 10 coaching changes occurred; 3 coaches had their team in the playoffs within 2yrs and a 4th reached the playoffs in his 3rd yr; two (Mangini & Payton) reached the playoffs in their first year, two (Payton & McCarthy) reached the NFC Championship within 2yrs.....Childress reached the playoffs only last year...... 4/10 were a success
2007: 7 coaching changes occurred; within 2 yrs Tomlin, Whisenhunt, N.Turner, and W. Phillips have all reached the playoffs, two were in last years SB, one (Norv) went to the AFC Championship his first yr.... 4/7 were a success
2008: 4 coaching changes occurred: within the first year Smith, Sparano, & Harbaugh all reached the playoffs, one reached the AFC Championship.... 3/4 were a success
In 2009, 11 coaching changes have occurred.....surprised?? If I was looking at the numbers above, I would be quick to pull the trigger on a new coach as well. 15 of 31 went to the playoffs within 2 yrs Of course, in years where 10 coaches are hired, you have to expect a thinning of talent. I think this year's crop of coaches is extremely talented,
If you look closely at each year, other than 2005, a new coach has taken his team to the conference championship game in his first year. That is quite a stat,
Since 2004, in four of five years in the NFL, a brand new head coach led one of the four best teams.
Now a lot of factors lead to such a finish and certainly the HC does not deserve all the credit. Sometimes it can even happen despite the HC. This year, many reporters and pundits are calling last year an aberration. They say, "Don't expect that again!"
Every year since 2003 at least one team and many times more than one, go from worst to first. From '03-'07, the last place team won the NFC South division.....five years of worst to first in one division??
In the MSM, I only hear Indy and Seattle as potential division winners who have new coaches (safe bet, whudda thunk it?). Is it fair to assume that reporters and pundits are well-informed about all things football? Apparently not? In fact, I would argue that most of their time is spent creating story lines and avoiding real evaluation. Lets face it- real evaluation involves being a "true" student of the game and these guys make too much money to be students of anything. It also means your analysis will be critiqued and your success can be quantified. Under these circumstances, why stick your neck out from the crowd?
While considering the success rate above, what team has the best chance of success this year?
McD (Den)- It appears McD handled all coach hires. He seems to have hired with a focus on talent, length of experience, and experience in the AFC West, He has demonstrated a hands on approach that steers both sides of the football team. He inherits one of the best OLs in football, bought an experienced secondary, and has added leadership to his team. If the team has bought into his leadership, then the MSM story lines are only just that.
Haley (KC)- His organizational skills are suspect. If you want to succeed against the odds on day 1, you have to know what you're getting into. When you fire the OC, Chan Gailey, you should have a backup plan.....you can't just make yourself the QB coach, OC, and HC. Just getting into the situation strikes me as naive. I'm not sure how much he is ready to coach both sides of the football.
Cable (Oak)- Hanson's jaw, Al Davis, Heyward-Bey, Jamarcus Russell.......do we need to say more.
Schwartz (Det)- This is a completely new team. I wonder who has more personnel turnover Denver or Detroit? I can't say I know too much about what is going on here, but their personnel moves seem sound. I am overly optimistic primarily because this team has nowhere to go but up.
Spagnuolo (STL)- I love Spags.....in fact I think he was a critical piece to the NYG team. While it is not clear what type of team he inherited, he did not make many changes to the roster. Devaney and him have made tweaks, but it appears they are satisfied to progress slowly. I read on the STL website that bystanders were surprised when S.Jackson went down from his first hit in practice. They thought he would get upset.....a RB upset about a tackle?? Apparently TC was very light in STL the last couple years. This sounds like primadonna stuff though. Thank goodness then because Jackson did not get upset.....whew, good! I think Spags has more changes to the roster to make before the team culture changes though.
Morris (TB)- It doesn't make sense to fire Gruden and select a lower coach that grew up under Gruden. It appears the NFL "copycat" rule went a little too far. Morris is not Tomlin and TB is definitely not Pitt. I think Gruden was holding together a poor team.....It will be tough to beat 9-7 from last year.
Ryan (NYJ)- Ryan gets his players to play for him....Mangini gets his players to play through other methods. I think the new coaching atmosphere and additions on O and D could make this team tough to beat.
Singletary (SF)- This team just shows toughness on the gridiron. I can't help but believe the team is buying into Singletary's leadership. His QB and ILB (Willis) both seem extensions of his personality. The expectations are very low and I see a potential surprise.
Mora (Sea)- He is a proven winner, but the team is essentially the same as last year. The blame fell on the injury to Hasselbeck, but I think more issues exist. Expectation are high for a rebound.
Mangini (Cle)- He takes over a team who last year appeared to visibly struggle from lack of focus, unity, and belief. I can't think of a better coach to follow Romeo Crennel. Furthermore, this team won 10 games two years ago. They have talent....can Mangini get these guys to play? He has been successful in his first year with less talent (NYJ '06).
Caldwell (Ind)- A lot of coaching turmoil in the offseason. I think losing Meeks from the DC position will have more of an effect than people realize. This is not the same team it was in 2006. A lot of pressure on Caldwell, he is filling big shoes.
In my opinion, the key for the above teams to shock the NFL will be low expectations, some inherited talent, a dynamic leader that brings something missing to the team, and players buying into the coach's leadership. I think McD, Schwartz, Ryan, Singletary and Mangini demonstrate this potential. They are capable of taking their team far in the first year.
Schwartz and Ryan's team will improve and could go very far.....its just so difficult to assess a team with a rookie QB. While last year showed promise for rookie signal callers, history doesn't give rookie QBs the same love as rookie HCs. I see potential, but am somewhat skeptical. The beauty of having a rookie under center is the expectations and pressure from the outside immediately go down. This is an important factor to beating conventional wisdom about your potential. The big requirement is that the QB can handle pressure. In that case, I like the NYJ's to finish better than Detroit.
Denver, SF, and Cleveland are my big surprises for this year. This may mean the playoffs, but it may mean only 8-8. No less than .500 win pct though.
Of course, it will be Denver in the AFC Championship game to continue the first year HC trend stated above. For me, the big questions are not about Denver's D and Clevland's QB. I wonder how much TENN, NYG, NE, BAL, and ARI will miss their old coordinators. The teams losing highly successful coordinators are the teams with question marks......but, these teams offer very few story lines....those are all in Denver.
What do you think of the rookie HCs?
I honestly started to get dizzy reviewing NFL seasons (they comprise two years), so let me know if I made a mistake on the coach stats.
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Excellent
and rec’d. This is a great post. I will trust your research. Another high quality MHR post. This site much better than the days of hoping the Post or the RMN would write an article about the Broncos or Football.
Again, excellent.
After watching SF, I totally agree with you. If you are not pulling for Singletary, you are probably a fan of another NFC west team. The dude is just intense.
I am curious, however, if Mangini isn’t wearing thin in Cleveland though.
Smokey, my friend, you are entering a world of pain.
Agreed
I like Singletary and his no-nonsense attitude. There are too many HCs out there that try to be buddy-buddy with players which is why there are so many PR issues and bad team representation.
Look at Marvin Lewis and Romeo Crennel just to name a couple…good coaches but just too nice. You’re not supposed to ‘like’ your head coach but you are supposed to respect him…and want to respect him. The HC is supposed to get the most out of their players and history shows that a coach with a ‘backbone’ and great strategy is usually successful.
McDaniels has made some huge waves in the offseason…the teams he’s been a part of doesn’t question his credibility…I just hope it translates onto this team.
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Phil Simms wrote a chapter in his book on this phenomena
It was in Sunday Morning QB – his comment was much the same as yours, brohamm. He said that if you found a guy who wa a ’player’s coach’ you could expect him to be looking for a job in 1-2 years.
Hillis/Moreno in '09
thx....about Cleveland
I’m glad you mention that point…..I thought the same thing and wrote Cle off early in OTAs as having no chance. I thought Mangini’s approach was too stiff (still think that), he’s pushing too hard and the players have to recognize what the players in NY started to recognize….this guy is an egomaniac.
It may be true and his approach may be tired. However, when I read about what players are saying, when I read about things divulging the team’s attitude, I start thinking that maybe this is just what many of the players in Cleveland want……someone to keep people in line and “truly” prepare the team for victory. Certainly there are some guys, maybe Shaun Rogers and others, that don’t like the atmosphere, but I expect it will get them to play…..I think Edwards and Rogers are guys that need that type of ‘hold your feet to the fire".
For me, its not about liking Mangini, its about respecting what he can do to help a team compete and recognizing that his personality may be exactly what Cleveland needs….that type of HC personality leads to chokes in big games though, so I don’t expect deep runs here unless B.Quinn can handle big time pressure and a tightwad HC.
Hey - nice post!
A nice angle with the stats, and very thought-provoking. I really appreciated the tour through the league’s new coaches.
Enjoyed your post BB...
Very well done a thought out…Another tribute to the MHR group…
Well done and rec’d as well…
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Fascinating articles like this. Thanks for opening my eyes and all the hard work you put into this. It stops and makes you think not to take some of the things you are continually told, at face value
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by BlobTheMagnificent on Sep 9, 2009 6:22 AM MDT reply actions
Great post BB
I love where you have the Broncos ending up this year…In the championship game…but I guess you have them loosing that one…oh well…there is always next year!
It is better to keep silent, and appear to be wise, then to ramble on and remove all doubt! The Wisest Man, Solomon.
Schwartz can’t hold all of the blame this year for the Lions great season as they will win at least 4 games.
Cables didn’t really want the job but nobody else wanted it either. Cables might just punch out Al Davis before the seasons over.
Morris is expected to do the unexpected with the Buccaneers and I see them winning 6 games this year. There was a reason why Pat Bowlen didn’t pick him and his philosophy.
Boot Camp Haley has his foot on the teams thoat and it’s a 180 from what they are used to. They win 5-6 games this year.
Mora will do a good job in the wetlands and the crowd will be cheering for more. 9 wins.
Singletary and McDaniels will fight for Rookie HC of the Year awards with 10 wins apiece.
Caldwell? Hmm could have problems especially if Peyton goes down.
"Cables might just punch out Al Davis before the seasons over"
I’d pay good money to see that… pay per view, maybe? hahahaha
by AllBroncsallday on Sep 9, 2009 11:24 AM MDT up reply actions
Great job
i love seeing some quality research – well written, too. An easy rec’d!
Hillis/Moreno in '09
Awesome post, great work as always!
Your posts always get me thinking!
One point is that the MSM is skipping is the fact that many of the successful teams last year are without their Defensive/Offensive coordinators. I don’t see NE and NYG being as good this year for that very reason. It would be interesting to look at how teams do after they lose their coordinators historically.
For me Spagnuolo, Mangini, and Caldwell have big question marks. They could be great, could be lack luster. I’m not sure. The fact that STL didn’t do much this offseason concerns me. They need major help. The Browns and the Colts have many of the right pieces, let’s see if they can put them together and make it work.
I like Singletary the man, but he hasn’t proved to me he can improve a team yet. I’m hoping he can.
I’m not a fan of Ryan, but he diffidently has the right pedigree to be great coach.
Haley is in over his head at KC. His choices seem rash and not well thought out.
Morris hasn’t really done anything this offseason to make me think Tampa will be any better this year.
McDaniels has laid it all on the line. From the Cutler move to the Bronco draft picks and trades, all the way to the preseason games, McD has caused a stir. But his moves seem to be motivated to cause specific changes within the organization. He is extremely deceptive (which drives the MSM crazy) and I believe the Bronco team that shows up against the Bangles will surprise everyone.
thx...on coordinators
coordinators are big time leaders on a football team….especially when they have freedom to run things their way, they can have a big impact when they leave. Also important is if the replacement is tweaking things….meaning, is it a protege, like McDermott in Phi, or a new guy, like Belicheck/O’Brien in NE……In Phi, I think things are gonna be the same, but it will be tough for McDermott to call games with JJ’s feel. In NE, they seem to be changing things up a bit…..I really expect some problems b/c they are gonna struggle to run the football. If their D is weak, they are in big trouble. Same feeling about Indy’s new D approach, they are changing it up, along with personnel…..BAL D Coord is doing the same….he’s looking at giving more 4-3 looks, not sure that is the best thing to do for a coach only 1yr removed from the college ranks…..who knows though…..look forward to the first week.
by BideshiBronco on Sep 9, 2009 11:32 AM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Coordinators
I thought folks might be interested in this: Over the offseason, San Diego was nice enough to let Wayne Nunnely become available for us to snap up. New defensive coordinator Ron Rivera, who was promoted last season and replaced Ted Cottrell’s read and react system with an aggressive one that worked far better, wanted to bring in guys that he’s worked with in the past. There are advantages and disadvantages to hiring friends, but that was the decision.
However – all the coaches he brought in have a dominant history of running the 4-3, not the Phillips 3-4 that SD has run up until now. Not surprisingly, he has been trying to run a 4-3 at times in the preseason. It’s been a disaster – here’s hoping that they try to run it during the regular season as well….
Hillis/Moreno in '09
I was looking at that as well Bear
I truely believe SD in going to be in a lot of shoot outs this year. Their offense should move the ball well, but the defense may not keep them in games unless they score a lot. Sound familiar.
A very interesting read,
Great work BB. I totally think the MSM is overlooking the loss of Coordinators on several teams and how much that impacts a team. That alone could change the landscape of who wins and who loses in the NFL. But, teams like NE and Balt will be fine as they were already grooming the next person to step in.
Excellent post! Rec'd
After hearing about Spags and Morris so far, I’m glad Bowlen chose McD. I think he hired the best of the bunch. 10 wins and McD will win coach of the year considering how everyone in the MSM is completely writing us off this year.
People can use statistics to prove anything, 87% of all people know that.
Thanks & rec'd BB
this is an awesome wealth of information and analysis. thanks for sharing.
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there certainly is not any “underestimating” going on around here, that is for sure. McD is already Vince Lombardi and Bill Walsh all rolled into one and he hasn’t coached his first real game.
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by Bob in Boulder on Sep 10, 2009 10:34 AM MDT reply actions

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