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Good Morning, MHR Friends. A day late with these sentiments, but our thoughts go out to all those touched by the horrific tragedy in Haiti. As for the links...if you woke up on the right side of the bed today and would like to maintain a sunny disposition, do not read Woody's column. It's one of the most toxic things I've read in the DP sports section. Guy's got a real axe to grind with Josh McDaniels, apparently.

PS. Please don't read Woodrow's column if you're planning on operating a vehicle shortly thereafter, either. It'd be a disservice to the general public if I didn't warn you...

DP - Earthquake touches Broncos - Jim Armstrong

DB - Dumervil Asks for Help - Gray Caldwell

DPP - Dumervil's focus on his kin in Haiti - Lindsay Jones

DB - '09 Season Review: Weeks 1-4 - Broncos TV

"Offensive assistant Ben McDaniels, Josh's brother, is likely to receive heavy consideration for the running backs position."

DPP - Q&A: "Futures" deals give Broncos flexibility - Jeff Legwold

Star-divide

DB - More Bronco Honors - Jim Saccomano

DB - Dennison to Texans

"Even though Matt Cassel had a good season in 2008, and is a decent quarterback, the Patriots didn't even get in the playoffs." Well, there you go. Because Matt Cassel couldn't get the Pats to the playoffs, he didn't do so hotly, according to Woody. Never mind that he won 11 games... 
"I looked back at every Orton start. He has a good record in 49 starts, but in at least 30 of those games, the defense was responsible for the victory and the offense was hanging on for dear life." That's some analysis. Practically scientific, in fact...
"On the other subject, I have sat two feet away from McDaniels, just the two of us, and I said: "Lose the hoodie. Get your own thing." He paid no attention. He stuck it in my face, your face, and the players' faces. It shouldn't be that big a deal, except we know why he wears it. He's still Belichick's man, not his own man." 
How's that for arrogance?!?! Does Woody think he runs Denver and the Broncos? McDaniels should lose the hoodie because Woody told him so?

TB - Lichtensteiger signed by Redskins

American Needle Case

NYT - Supreme Court Skeptical of N.F.L.’s Antitrust Claim - Adam Liptak

DPP - Analysis: Supreme Court site of NFL battleground - Jeff Legwold

AFC West News

SDUT - Canepa vs. Sullivan: Running battle

SDUT - Bolts’ winning formula is simple - Kevin Acee

SDUT - Blitz game expected from Jets - Kevin Acee

SDUT - Sanchez is green but he’s ripening - Chris Jenkins

NFL - Crennel will become Chiefs' D-coordinator, reunite with Weis, Pioli

KCS - This Patriots reunion in KC is missing something - Jason Whitlock

SFC - Raiders assistant Brown retires from coaching - David White

OT - Raiders coach Tom Cable still hasn't met with Al Davis to discuss his future - Steve Corkran

Coaching Carousel

NFL - Gray given permission to interview with Seahawks

NFL - Bye, Boss Hog: Redskins OL coach Bugel retires after 32 seasons

NFL - Kiffin mum on NFL coaches who might join USC’s staff

NFL - Steelers hire Bills’ Kugler to coach O-line

NFL News

NFL - Garcon, other NFL players worry about family in quake-stricken Haiti

Y! - Garcon's thoughts are on family in Haiti - Charles Robinson

NFL - Pereira: Incidental facemask in Cards-Packers game

NFL - Titans' Johnson runs away with Offensive Player of the Year honors

NFL - Patriots LB Favre Seau retires for fourth time in 20-year NFL career

SN - Saints' Sean Payton named Sporting News' 2009 NFL Coach of the Year

Playoffs?!?!?!?!

NYT - Win Probabilities, and the Importance of Playoff Run Defense - Brian Burke

NFP - The Divisional Playoffs: sneak peek - Matt Bowen

SI - Forget the talk: NFL's all about play - Ross Tucker

SI - Dome teams traditionally struggle in NFL playoffs - Kerry J. Byrne

SI - Cardinals battered defense braces for Drew Brees and the Saints - Jim Trotter

SI - Eight is enough: Best storylines heading into NFL's divisional round - Don Banks

NFL - Can Pro Bowl defensive backs slow down prolific passers? - Gil Brandt

NFL - Don't expect the Ravens to pull off another upset - Vic Carucci

NFL - Saints' advantages are mostly of the intangible sort - Steve Wyche

FH - Dirty Dozen: 12 Who Will Decide the Divisional Round - Dave Goldberg

Y! - Revis’ lockdown starts with intense breakdown - Charles Robinson

Y! - Chargers' Jackson takes different route to success - Jason Cole

SN - Scouts' views: Vikings have edge on Cowboys; look for Sproles to hurt Jets - Dennis Dillon

FOX - Rush more? Running game is back for playoffs - Alex Marvez

FOX - Saints may not be bandwagon favorite, but that's good thing - Peter Schrager

ESPN - Brett Favre, Tony Romo stick with mutual playmaking mentality - Ed Werder

NFL Opinion

NFP - Wednesday whys: A free agent success story - Andrew Brandt

NFP - Diner morning news: Pats' loss was a good thing - Mike Lombardi

NYT - Fourth-Down Attempts Are Up. Is There a Belichick Factor? - Brian Burke

PFW - You gotta believe it to see it - Tom Danyluk

FH - Rooney Rule Is Just Fine, Thank You - Terence Moore

FH - Zebra Report: Wild-Card Round - Matt Snyder

NFP - Early entry prospects: Part V - Wes Bunting

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Thanks Doug.

This Haiti situation almost makes me glad we missed the playoffs. Imagine us having to go into SD in a few days, while Doom is dealing with 40 or 50 members of his family being in Haiti after all of this. That would be tough.

If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Why has nobody made a live-action game of Chutes and Ladders? I'd be first in line.

by Troy Hufford on Jan 14, 2010 6:47 AM MST reply actions  

at least now we know why Paige is such a …. McDaniels didn’t listen to him about what to wear

you have to be freaking kidding me if that is even partially true — who says that crap?? who would then brag about having said it??

by Todd Jewell on Jan 14, 2010 7:02 AM MST reply actions  

Woody would

He’s a clown. He’s admitted he doesn’t really even like sports—but he sure does like pulling down paychecks from Dean Singleton and ESPN.

by Remember Keith Kartz! on Jan 14, 2010 7:09 AM MST up reply actions  

I wonder if he's not halfway kidding there...

In the past Woody’s acknowledged that he’s pretty much playing the role of class clown, so it wouldn’t surprise me if he’s being ironic when he complains that McDaniels doesn’t listen to his advice. but, on the other hand, it’s possible that Woody has been around Denver sports for so long that he really things he knows more than McD. And to be fair Woody is technically correct about the hoody – from the perspective of a long-time denver fan it just doesn’t play well when a head coach seems to emulate a rival in such a personal fashion. Imagine if Shanahan had shown up to coach the Broncos with his hair slicked back, in a white leisure suit and some gnarly old-man glasses with bejeweled straps hanging off of them <>

Belief is accepting something because you’ve been convinced to do so, whether you like it or not. Faith is accepting something because you want to accept it.

by Hercules Rockefeller on Jan 14, 2010 9:08 AM MST up reply actions  

I really have a difficult time believing that anyone cares about the hoodie. I mean, really? Seems awfully silly to me.

by AllBroncsallday on Jan 14, 2010 12:25 PM MST up reply actions  

Morning Doug...Thanks for the Tracks

And the warning about woody…Could only get through about half his rambling…Total Tool!

-Richee
-Stick to the fight when you are hardest hit - it's when things seem worst that you must not quit!

by BroncoSense72 on Jan 14, 2010 7:07 AM MST reply actions  

I'm going to hammer the bejesus out of Woody on SF.com later today...

Look for it.

Thanks for Horse Tracks, Doug, as always.

"I am not one of those who think that coming in second or third is winning." -- Robert F. Kennedy

by Ted Bartlett on Jan 14, 2010 7:24 AM MST reply actions  

I can't wait.

I’m making popcorn for this one.

Man is not a rational animal, he is a rationalizing animal.

by MrFNSunshine on Jan 14, 2010 8:48 AM MST up reply actions  

I will be there Ted

-Richee
-Stick to the fight when you are hardest hit - it's when things seem worst that you must not quit!

by BroncoSense72 on Jan 14, 2010 8:59 AM MST up reply actions  

Thanks, Doug.

“…On the other subject, I have sat two feet away from McDaniels, just the two of us, and I said: “Lose the hoodie. Get your own thing.” He paid no attention. He stuck it in my face…"

Hahaha, I love it. Coach doesn’t pay attention to Woody, and he throws a hissy fit because of it. Josh has got to be crying with laughter right now.

"All by their heads, he places crowns."

by Tempestuous Binary on Jan 14, 2010 7:35 AM MST reply actions  

I hope so....

I don’t want Paige and the like to drive him out of town.

Because Montana has no professional sports, I gotta support the land of my birth.

Socrates was once executed for 'trolling'.
^Needs explaining: don't call someone asking uncomfortable, slightly antagonistic questions trolls. In all odds they probably just want to learn. It's real easy to differentiate a 'Socratic' post from a trolling one (unless you're a resident of WCG).
^Needs further explaining: I have yet to post anything on WCG, don't worry, I'm not trying to rationalize anything I've done. I've just lurked over there and man, they are the model of post-peloponnesian war Athens.

by Drizzt396 on Jan 14, 2010 10:08 AM MST up reply actions  

Thanks Doug.

I read the subtext of the Woody article and decided not to click the link. I didn’t want to give him/ DP the credit of my viewership.

by RalphW on Jan 14, 2010 7:36 AM MST via mobile reply actions  

Thanks Doug.

Real Power, comes with the realization that One cannot change the Moment;
only ones perception of it: Atitude! JQM

by UB3 on Jan 14, 2010 7:39 AM MST reply actions  

Yeah...it never ceases to amaze me

MSM guys troll blogs for their ideas way too often.

"Precipitation, which side are you on?
Are you on the rise? Are you falling down?
Let me know, Come on let's go, yeah
Got some if you need it!" -EV

by sadaraine on Jan 14, 2010 8:54 AM MST up reply actions  

Happened to me earlier this year

And not in a good way. Don’t get too flattered.

You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be misquoted and then used against you.

by improv88 on Jan 14, 2010 2:45 PM MST up reply actions  

Torain?

A little off subject, has anyone heard anything about Ryan Torain? Apparently he looked pretty good last preseason before getting hurt again. Sad that someone with such potential can’t get his career started.

by DaLostBoy4 on Jan 14, 2010 7:56 AM MST reply actions  

Last I heard, he was still a free agent.

There was some talk, too, on the Texans blog of him going to Houston.

I agree with your sentiment, it’s a real shame because he certainly can play (despite the injury-prone, upright running style). Maybe Shanny can look into bringing him back in Washington.

"All by their heads, he places crowns."

by Tempestuous Binary on Jan 14, 2010 8:22 PM MST up reply actions  

Wow...

I get the impression Woody doesn’t like Josh too much! Can’t believe I actually read that piece of s*** article. You did warn me Doug!

by BroncoTwins on Jan 14, 2010 8:21 AM MST reply actions  

Woody

All upset that McD isn’t his own man. Of course listening to Woody and ditching the hoodie after being told to do so wouldn’t be acting as his own man, just Woody’s man. Which I think highlights Woody’s real displeasure.

How do you keep the Broncos Humble?
"Just show them the film. Show them the film." - Josh McDaniels

by Kfustud on Jan 14, 2010 8:35 AM MST reply actions  

Woody, woody, woody

Let’s see Josh wears a hoodie to pay homage to his mentor. This is like a QB wearing #7 because the like John Elway or Eddie Belfour use to wear #20 in honor of his goalie coach Vladislav Tretiak. I don’t care what Josh wears, I care about the kind of coach he is. Josh always wears a hat, though, just like Bobby Turner. Oh my god, Josh is turning into Bobby Turner. It’s not like the hoodie says Patriots on the front.

"No more my bad just make the play"-McJedi

by RockyMountainThunder on Jan 14, 2010 8:40 AM MST reply actions  

I couldn't take it and posted a comment on DP to Woody

(To spare you having to look back through the bile over there, here’s what I wrote):

Woody, for all that is decent and holy, please stop writing about Josh McDaniels. You obviously have an axe to grind with him and have since he started. I mean, McDaniels should lose the hoodie because Lord Woodrow told him to? Who’s the arrogant one here? The Broncos are clearly going in the right direction in the future, and he deserves a chance. I can’t say either of those things about you, alas. This is just sad.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jan 14, 2010 8:55 AM MST up reply actions   2 recs

Gosh! Woody's on twitter

Assuming this is him, here’s Woody Paige. Feel free to tweet at him.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jan 14, 2010 9:05 AM MST reply actions  

Thanks Doug

I actually read Woody’s column before this was up..and by god I wish I had been warned.
I dont get why I even click the links anymore, because you know it will just be a public hatefest of McD.
No wonder most Broncos fans who only read DP get infected with this negatice toxic BS….
Doesnt the page say Woody has been with the Post since ’81? hope the idiot retires soon…

Bleeding Orange & Blue in The Netherlands

by BroncosNL on Jan 14, 2010 9:33 AM MST reply actions  

By the way...

anyone have any clue why Josh’s brother gets considered for RB coach? Does he have any history with runningbacks?

Bleeding Orange & Blue in The Netherlands

by BroncosNL on Jan 14, 2010 9:34 AM MST reply actions  

no. but he IS josh's brother.
Ben McDaniels, 28, will coach his first season in the NFL after he was in charge of quarterbacks at Massillon Jackson High School in Ohio last year.

at least, that’s all i could find on ben’s resume. it was in the DP last year.

ah, sweet nepotism. so good to have you back, potentially ruining my favorite team again….

by oxmouth on Jan 14, 2010 9:38 AM MST up reply actions  

Nepotism ruins everything it touches.

I hate it and hope that McD shops around for a good RB coach before just handing the position to his brother.

Man is not a rational animal, he is a rationalizing animal.

by MrFNSunshine on Jan 14, 2010 9:46 AM MST up reply actions  

is there anything factual out there that says his brother is up for the job or is it just speculation?

by Todd Jewell on Jan 14, 2010 10:07 AM MST up reply actions  

It's just speculation.

Idle, idle speculation.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jan 14, 2010 10:16 AM MST up reply actions  

Hey Woody..

ever been on a college campus in the last 20 years? Ever met anyone under the age of 40? Pretty much everyone in America wears hoodies Paige. I guess that means pretty much everyone is “A Belichik Guy” now.

What a fool.

by Gr3yStreet on Jan 14, 2010 10:39 AM MST reply actions  

Exactly.

Besides, it’s what he wore in New Englad, right? I doubt he started wearing it with the Pats because Belichick told him to. He probably finds them comfortable, and why would he change from that upon coming to Denver?

formerly known around these parts as nycbroncosfan

by Douglas A. Lee on Jan 14, 2010 10:41 AM MST up reply actions  

McDaniels explained one time

why he wears the hoodie. It is the SAME REASON that Belicheck wears one (it is a conscious choice, obviously), but it is not BECAUSE Belicheck wears one.

They both ar of the opinion that the hoodie is a symbolic gesture that puts the coach “on the field” with the players. It is a choice of solidarity with the players, and we can argue about whether that is effective, or whether it is desirable, or whether the hoodie is the right color, but it won’t change the fact that they think it is an effective symbol, and that they choose to use it.

Precision in thought, concision in style, decision in life.

"That's MR.Styg..."

by Jeremy Bolander on Jan 14, 2010 6:23 PM MST up reply actions  

haha, I'm wearing a broncos hoodie, right now.

I guess I’m a Belichick guy….

If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Why has nobody made a live-action game of Chutes and Ladders? I'd be first in line.

by Troy Hufford on Jan 14, 2010 10:55 AM MST up reply actions  

I really need to get myself one of those

good points.. Hoodies are comfortable, Woody is just an idiot…

Bleeding Orange & Blue in The Netherlands

by BroncosNL on Jan 14, 2010 10:58 AM MST up reply actions  

I don’t care what McDaniels wears. If he coaches like he did for the 1st six games – all Bronco fans will love him.

If he coaches like he did over the 2nd half the 2009 season, he’ll be in Denver for another year or two before he is fired and has to rebuild his coaching reputation somewhere else (likely as an assistant).

I don’t care for Woody and I don’t care for McDaniels. Three words that describe both are: stubborn, predictable and arrogant.

Sorry Woody, but no one buys papers anymore. Your time is about up. I see no hope for you.

McDaniels still has a shot but no coach will survive if he can’t overcome his shortcomings. McDaniels will certainly need to analyze himself and make corrections if he wants to win his team over again. Woody was right about one thing. Several of the Broncos quit on McDaniels vs KC and that does not bode well for 2010. Not until Josh addresses/fixes his own faults.

I'm so angry at the Broncos right now.

by McGeorge on Jan 14, 2010 11:10 AM MST reply actions  

Um Can you Name the several Broncos that you say quit

on McDaniels. They did not play their best game agains the Cheifs but I did not see anyone quit. I love that some people think McDaniels has lost the locker room when they have no proof of it. Before people come out with this type of stuff maybe they should find some facts to back it up.

Now Woody is a completely ignorant and has no Idea what he is talking about. He should not have a job considering how bad he writes. It is obvious he knows nothing about football and if he actually think he knows more about football and running an team in the NFL he has completely lost it

by gnarlybroncodude on Jan 14, 2010 1:23 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

I’ve named several Broncos that didn’t show up for KC and I’ve name more that didn’t show up in December.

Like the high character nonsense that gets pushed at MHR, I’m used to seeing you guys circle the wagons around Josh. It’s par for the course.

I'm so angry at the Broncos right now.

by McGeorge on Jan 14, 2010 3:57 PM MST up reply actions  

Geez

You guys need to relax. Woody is paid to be either tongue-in-cheek or stir the pot or both. And you know what? It very obviously works. I fail to understand why you care so much about what Woody writes – Josh McDaniels certainly doesn’t. He also doesn’t need your (our?) defense. Let’s watch some football this weekend, watch what the best teams are doing and turn the discussion back to personnel and strategies. And BTW, thanks Doug!
Go Broncs!

It's "just" football

by Donkhead on Jan 14, 2010 11:11 AM MST reply actions  

agreed.

woody’s definitely a pot stirrer. i’ve been reading him since i was a kid. i hated him back then but i’ve kind of grown to appreciate him in my old(er) age. i don’t think he’s to be taken too seriously, like legwold or klis, and if you don’t like his current opinions on something you can always read his next article because they’ll be totally different.

by oxmouth on Jan 14, 2010 12:10 PM MST up reply actions  

Woody's an idiot

And not entertaining any more. His shtick was tired back in the late 80s, now that he has a national soap box from which to preach his particular brand of idiocy he’s actually gotten worse.

by xteve on Jan 14, 2010 1:18 PM MST up reply actions  

To borrow a wrestling term

He’s a heel. He’s just there to angry up the blood.

Maybe ‘tracks could just be a collection of links to Legwold’s pieces……

by mikebirty on Jan 14, 2010 12:32 PM MST up reply actions  

Denver Post

It’s too bad, but the Denver Post (viewers) seems to be a dumping ground for the fairweather, bi****** denver broncos fan base.

Sometimes I can get so frustrated with the irrational, redundant spewing that goes on with every broncos article.

by broncos314 on Jan 14, 2010 11:20 AM MST reply actions  

Not every Bronco fan is in love with McDaniels as the MHR faithful. You heard that loud and clear when we got smoked by KC.

But that article sucked. I won’t deny that truth.

I'm so angry at the Broncos right now.

by McGeorge on Jan 14, 2010 3:59 PM MST up reply actions  

Woody's tenure allows him to make hideous statements...

If Lindsay Jones made a statement like that she would be run out of Denver on a rail! He is nothing but a senseless old fool who has nothing better to do in life but make himself look cute…Old fool!

by bfree2bronc on Jan 14, 2010 11:22 AM MST reply actions  

Watch out

He’ll pluck out your eye!! ;)

by AllBroncsallday on Jan 14, 2010 2:23 PM MST up reply actions  

Rarely have I seen

such a lengthy concentration of pure drivel as the steaming pile of opinion which Straw Man put out in his mailbag. Check out photo 15 in this “Broncos Coaches Leaving” photo gallery at the DP. I know, it will take some time, I’ll wait.

Clearly McDaniels has infected Dennison, and now Dennison is off to the Texans. I wonder if some brave reporter in Houston will stand up to Dennison and ask him point blank to remove his offensive attire. I doubt it. I don’t think there is a reporter on par with the quality of Woody in Houston.

All this time, I though McDaniels was wearing hoodies because he liked them and they are comfortable, Denver being in a chilly, rocky mountain state and all. Now I realize the truth: if straw man asked me directly to do (or not do) something, I would do the exact opposite too. WWWPD? I truly don’t know, but whatever it is, don’t do it.

The Broncos have to get rid of Chris Simms. You can thank me later for suggesting he should start in Washington. If he hadn’t played this season, we all would have thought he could still play. He can’t.

Please don’t put “we” in statements like that, even if it is the editorial “we”. You know, Straw Man, most of “us” here at MHR were emphatically against playing Simms BECAUSE we knew he couldn’t play. No one takes being wrong and turns it into “gimme gratitude” quite like Woody.

Everybody reading this mailbag knew that a year ago the Broncos needed a major upgrade on the defensive line, but McDaniels knew better than us. He didn’t draft anybody. He didn’t make a big splash for the two great available free-agent defensive linemen.

Ahhhhh, Woody. This is your namesake here: classic. McDaniels didn’t do anything with the D-Line: he surely didn’t pick up Holliday (HUGE impact in sacks and helping Doom and others to sacks), didn’t trade for Smith (less impact, but played well in rotation), didn’t sign CFAs Baker (looking good for the future) and Pedescleux (unfortunately injured). He didn’t jettison all but three of the d-lineman from the previous squad, giving Peterson (a rotational guy on Shanny’s squad) and McBean (a depth afterthought) starting jobs (McBean did quite well, Peterson just OK) and Thomas in a rotational job at which he performed admirably. He didn’t sign Ronnie Fields for peanuts to be a workhorse starting NT. Nor did he pick up Darrel Reid or Robert Ayers to play situationally on the line.

Surely, what he should have done was sign Chris Canty (he of 8 solo, 5 assisted tackles and 0.5 sacks in 8 games this season) or Albert Haynesworth for even more than the record-setting $100 million he got in Washington. I know, I know his deal is loaded in the fifth year with a $29 million load of bonuses, and surely he will be cut before then after making $48 million in four years. That still would leave them having to take a crippling hit on their salary cap for the next three years. No player, especially a guy who hasn’t played a lick of 3-4 (AFAIK) and only played 16 games once, his rookie season, is worth crippling your team financially.

Or were there two other great available free agent defensive linemen that you were talking about? No, I see where you are going with this Woody: surely we should have drafted BJ Raji or Tyson Jackson instead of Knowshon with our first pick.

McDaniels, honestly, thinks he knows more than you or I or anyone else outside the program, as he has indicated publicly. I like your trade suggestion, and if I were the coach, I’d listen to you. Will it happen? I don’t think there is a chance.

You know what Woody: McDaniels does know more than you (SOOO much more…). And me. And most people for that matter. About football at any rate. Doesn’t it feel good to say “that trade will never happen…”? It’s so safe. Trades are so rare in the NFL in the first place, that claiming one specific trade will not happen is almost a guaranteed win. WAY TO WALK ON THE WILD SIDE WOODY!

Well, I can’t do this anymore. If I keep going I’ll be here all day, and there is probably some sort of character limit on these comments anyways. Good day Broncos fans, go Broncos!

by poorboywilly on Jan 14, 2010 12:36 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

funny that you bring up haynesworth since Shanahan wants to go 3-4 and haynesworth has said repeatedly that he doesnt want to play in a 3-4 system

by Todd Jewell on Jan 14, 2010 1:13 PM MST up reply actions  

Don’t forget – Raji and Jackson were gone by the time we picked, and it doesn’t seem possible for us to have moved up to get them. It’s certainly possible we’d have taken one of them if possible.

formerly known around these parts as nycbroncosfan

by Douglas A. Lee on Jan 14, 2010 1:48 PM MST up reply actions  

that was my point

I must have been laying it on a little TOO thick this time :)

I did consider that we could have traded up to get them, but like you say, that probably would have been pretty hard.

by poorboywilly on Jan 14, 2010 1:55 PM MST up reply actions  

I'll take issue with a couple points you raise PBW

First, see my post above – Woody’s in the business of selling media; he’s not a football coach, player, scout, etc. and will never be so simply ignore him if it gets you that riled up. Second, yes, there are writers and other media figures in Houston just like Woody – believe me – I live here. Third, it’s disingenuous to suggest that “we” knew that Simms couldn’t play prior to the season that just ended – you’re pulling a Woody. The jury was way out – no one really knew as the guy had been out of football a couple of years prior to the season. We may “know” now, but not even Josh McDaniels knew then – otherwise, he probably would have been rid of him.
Go Broncs!

It's "just" football

by Donkhead on Jan 14, 2010 2:08 PM MST up reply actions  

So you say

Woody is paid for nothing more than to spew idiotic drivel with the intention of “stirring the pot”? Well, that’s specifically what my response strikes at. Straw Man is completely superfluous to the “sporting news/analysis” world. The fact that he gets paid to do nothing more than make inflammatory, stupid, and even self-contradicting statements is a direct slap in the face of the hard working people that actually report sports news (i.e. Lindsay Jones), and even more offensive to those who don’t get paid, yet analyze and report on the topic with far greater integrity than Paige.

He talks about Xanders having some sort of “phantom job title”, it is a far greater travesty that Woody Paige is paid (and probably handsomely) to be a “sports columnist” when he can’t even write well. That, sir, is my point.

I wasn’t trying to imply that there are no “sports columnists” as poor as Paige in Houston; I was pointing out how ridiculous Woody’s obsession with the hoody is and using a picture of Rick Dennison wearing a hoody to help make my point—PEOPLE LIKE HOODIES, get over it Woody.

Finally, you are correct: I didn’t say what I meant to say regarding Simms. However, I did not say

that "we" knew that Simms couldn’t play prior to the season that just ended

In fact, I was speaking about Simms in the context of Woody taking credit for finding out he “can’t play”. This context was specifically
You can thank me later for suggesting he should start in Washington

and I believe that it is true that the majority of people at MHR did not believe Simms should start over Orton at this time. Moreover, I think McDaniels DID know about Simms before the season. He declared Orton the starter and never once wavered from that position. I think from the moment he was signed Simms was destined to be bench fodder, and that didn’t change with the Cutler/Orton trade: McD wanted a starting QB in return for our starter (and two first round draft picks :) ), and like you said, he had been out of football. It’s not often a guy goes from “out of football” one year to “starting” the next in the NFL.

No, I did not say exactly what I wanted to say about Simms. I likely would have changed and clarified that statement had I not been too lazy to preview and edit my comment. I probably should have, but then again I don’t get paid to do this. Woody does.

by poorboywilly on Jan 14, 2010 2:49 PM MST up reply actions  

+1 poorboy, although you could have went for why Woody himself could

have been traded…but alas, he’s not that good and probably would have been cut…anyway.

Real Power, comes with the realization that One cannot change the Moment;
only ones perception of it: Atitude! JQM

by UB3 on Jan 14, 2010 1:08 PM MST reply actions  

do you think

the Titans would take Woody for Kern?

by poorboywilly on Jan 14, 2010 2:07 PM MST up reply actions  

We can only hope. lol

Real Power, comes with the realization that One cannot change the Moment;
only ones perception of it: Atitude! JQM

by UB3 on Jan 14, 2010 2:25 PM MST up reply actions  

Woody Has lost it

My favorite Quote from that article

McDaniels, honestly, thinks he knows more than you or I or anyone else outside the program, as he has indicated publicly. I like your trade suggestion, and if I were the coach, I’d listen to you. Will it happen? I don’t think there is a chance

McDaniels has forgot more about football then anyone on this site or anyone that writes for any outlet will ever know about the sport. There is a reason he is the the NFL coaching and we are not. This is a very arogant and ignorant statement for someone that knows nothing about football. Woody is a writer that got assigned to do sports. It is obvious he has no background that qualifies him for his job. His stuff gets worse every day. You would think the people who run the Post would have fired this guy already

by gnarlybroncodude on Jan 14, 2010 1:26 PM MST reply actions  

Woody Thinks the BCS is BS

and we have common ground on that point. Beyond that, he has to be the biggest waste of skin in Mountain Time. That includes my parts in Utah as well as Alberta, much of Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, Arizona, New Mexico, parts of Texas, Nebraska, South Dakota, etc. To quote Bugs Bunny, what a maroon!

Brad James

by the new Bradfather on Jan 14, 2010 3:45 PM MST reply actions  

Thanks Doug

Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks

by KaptainKirk on Jan 14, 2010 4:15 PM MST reply actions  

PSS

Please don’t ever read Woody’s column. If people stop reading his drivel he’s sure to get fired (finger’s crossed).

Great spirits have often encountered violent opposition from weak minds. - Albert Einstein

Once we accept our limits, we go beyond them. - Albert Einstein

by c_style on Jan 14, 2010 4:46 PM MST reply actions  

BMarsh chatting online

Brandon Marshall on ustream RIGHT NOW: http://bit.ly/4sNi4k

(with Mike Sims Walker, lol.)

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Jan 14, 2010 5:32 PM MST reply actions  

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