"I'm a competitor and have worked extremely hard this offseason to be able to fight for a chance to make the playoffs," Scheffler said. "Him taking that away doesn't sit very well with me or some of my teammates.
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I know one thing about Scheff.
The reason he won’t be here next year is not because of his attitude, but because he doesn’t fit in McD’s system. It’s interesting how Scheff said, “Him taking that away doesn’t sit very well with me or some of my teammates.” I wonder who else, besides Marshall, that he could be talking about? It’s kinda concerning.
"When you put on that jersey, the name on the front is more important than the name on the back." - "Miracle".
"Winning means you're willing to go longer, work harder, and give more than anyone else." - Vince Lombardi.
Let me translate Bus Cook into ENGLISH. Here is what he just said:
“Bus Cook called me this morning and we thought I better put out a statement. Bus told me that if I don’t give a statement that gives the implication that I’m out there fighting for my teammates, I might get labelled as a troublemaker like my BFF Jay Cutler. So I’m putting this out there now. Bus told me to act very passionately in my statement so that other teams will see me as a team guy and I can maximize my next deal…and soon. I’m glad Bus is looking out for me. His previous experience in trying to screw the Denver Broncos could pay dividends.”
"But I hate the way our identity has changed..Kyle Orton might not be the flashiest quarterback, but the guy is a winner, and that formula worked for us. I hate to say it, but that’s the truth." --Brian Urlacher
by TJ Johnson on Jan 2, 2010 7:43 PM MST reply actions 17 recs
+1 TJ.... lol!!!
the Broncos should impliment an organization policy that all players represented by Bus Cook, will be given 1 week to find a new agent, or be traded to the Raiders.
"So tell me what happened."
"Well, the last thing I remember is seeing this flash of Blue and Orange and the #22... then everything just went black..."
by HillisRanUover on Jan 2, 2010 8:11 PM MST up reply actions
TJ, is your agent Bus Cook?
Sounds like Bus has given you this talk before. hahaha
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Girl, you don't need to be a 10, as long as you have a good smile and smell like bacon.
You MHR guys are going to earn your Bronco press passes for all the endless ass kissing for McDaniels and his regime. You’d all make Bill Williamson so proud.
This is my favorite website.
by McGeorge on Jan 2, 2010 9:28 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
McG, do you think they'll let me sit at the big kids table, too?
#$#$! it, Dude, let’s go bowling.
McG, you’re still in my heart, man. Nothing you can say will change that. You had me at, “McDaniels is an idiot.”
"But I hate the way our identity has changed..Kyle Orton might not be the flashiest quarterback, but the guy is a winner, and that formula worked for us. I hate to say it, but that’s the truth." --Brian Urlacher
And you had me at BFF.
Doesn’t being a sound board from McDaniels get boring after a while.
This is my favorite website.
That's funny McG...You one funny person...You are...You make me laugh!
Rhetoric in rhythmic fashion always has me rolling…[slurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrp…aaaaaaaaaaah]…whiskey always good too…
All you are doing is spitting though
TJ made a statement of belief (and did it in a humorous way) that Scheffler made his statement after Cook told him to. Judging by the number of rec’s, many of us agreed that this is likely what happened.
There’s no content to your message, McG.
War is behavior with its roots in the primal sea - eat whatever you touch, or it will eat you. John Fowles
The "point"
That everyone besides you is a “kiss ass” that would “make Bill Williamson proud”?
Bravo. That “point” brings so much to the discussion.
by AllBroncsallday on Jan 3, 2010 9:14 AM MST up reply actions
OK
But I just don’t get what you think that brings to the table. Yeah, the staff here tend to fall on side of the coach. And? We know this already. What’s the point in bringing that up 15 times?
by AllBroncsallday on Jan 3, 2010 9:29 AM MST up reply actions
"You MHR guys"
Of which you’re not. Gotcha.
by AllBroncsallday on Jan 3, 2010 8:55 AM MST up reply actions
No and neither are you.
We went through this with J-man. We don’t write for this site. We just react.
I say praise bus cook
He played up cutler to mythical impressions for which the broncos received a bounty for. Rumor was we couldn’t get a 5th for scheff last year. If cook could be a doll and get a fourth for him I would be most appreciative.
I'm glad we had this talk.
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by BroncoInExile on Jan 2, 2010 9:45 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
give me a break!
Really? McD didn’t even talk to the man! Is this how you try to get folks to believe in you? Is there any group of humans on this planet that can co-exist without speaking to eachother?
by Whidbey Bronco on Jan 2, 2010 10:08 PM MST up reply actions
Thy Comment will now turn Green.
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
you just beat me kap'n...
watching the (sort of) new star trek movie right now…I’m digging it.
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by Jeremy Bolander on Jan 2, 2010 11:31 PM MST up reply actions
Cool
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
give me a break
Scheffler is complaining to teammates after the Philadelphia game about not being used enough, when he had several pass attempts in the game. Then after he is benched, he tries to stir things up even more. I was on the fence about Scheffler before I saw this quote, now I’m glad he’s benched.
So the real question is this....
which of his concerned teammates told McDaniels about his complaining? It had to get to the coach somehow… so his complaining must have been pretty loud. Just sayin…
"So tell me what happened."
"Well, the last thing I remember is seeing this flash of Blue and Orange and the #22... then everything just went black..."
by HillisRanUover on Jan 2, 2010 8:07 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
what I really want to know
is what friends does he have left. Jay Jay is gone gone.
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
I have no idea what's going on, but after the offseason and season we've had
sometimes you just gotta say…WTF.
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
+1
WTF Broncos!!
Has it come to this? Shouldn’t this kind of thing stay in the locker room? I hope it’s just a few disgruntled players and not as bad as it’s starting to sound.
by Whidbey Bronco on Jan 2, 2010 10:10 PM MST up reply actions
Why the ferrets?
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Jan 3, 2010 9:01 PM MST up reply actions
Like the Sands of an Hour Glass, So our the Days of our Lives
At least it wil be easier to get my wife to watch football now.
Denver rookie head coach Josh McDaniels doesn't have a grasp on how to build a team." - John Clayton, April 23rd, 2009
by diviesti on Jan 2, 2010 8:12 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
I get the feeling this is the problem.
There is a whole bunch of ME talk it seems when it comes to the players of the Denver Broncos.
This would definitely explain the inability for them to get over the hump when playing good TEAMS.
I actually don't think that play-offs are the main agenda of this team.
Right now, it has to be extirpating all the “bad seeds” on this team, or trying to get them to buy into the system. I agree with McDaniel’s decision to bench these two 100%.
And if this doesn’t make you feel any better, we still have Moreno to throw the ball to.
"When you put on that jersey, the name on the front is more important than the name on the back." - "Miracle".
"Winning means you're willing to go longer, work harder, and give more than anyone else." - Vince Lombardi.
by broncoholic on Jan 2, 2010 8:25 PM MST up reply actions 6 recs
had to rec your comment
for using the word “extirpating” in a football comment. :)
But I agree about the need to remove the bad apples AND the idea that we have Moreno to throw to.
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Pray for the best, prepare for the worst, and know you will come down somewhere between the two.
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Good.
More chances for him to screw up his blocking assignements or fumble. He’s just been so awesome the last three weeks.
This is my favorite website.
And you shall be green.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Girl, you don't need to be a 10, as long as you have a good smile and smell like bacon.
I will suit up
But I can only play Fat receiver, even if I do possess the metrics to be called Wide. Lol
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
by KaptainKirk on Jan 2, 2010 11:37 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
worth noting the rest of the article:
Scheffler said that he didn’t hear directly from McDaniels with an assistant telling him he would be warming the bench after toiling on the scout team this week.
“To be honest, I haven’t even heard from Josh,” Scheffler said.
now doesn't THAT sound
eerily familiar????
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Jan 2, 2010 9:10 PM MST up reply actions
Straight from Bus Cook
War is behavior with its roots in the primal sea - eat whatever you touch, or it will eat you. John Fowles
BTW, I don't think its a coincidence...
That 3 of 5 team captains are non-Shanahan players and the other two are very respected, ong-term NFL players. Just sayin’.
Things will be different in Dove Valley for sure next year. Just not sure how.
Damn, I miss John Elway
Best player on his teams, first in the weight room for work and the last to leave. Took several pay cuts so the team could sign or pay other players and contend to win. Hated Dan Reeves for years and never said word one about it in public.
Get Marshall and Scheffler some cheese – they need it to go with their whine!
by ClarkFan on Jan 2, 2010 9:55 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
sounds like sheff is trying to rally troops to his side
misery loves company and it sounds like sheff wants some. Maybe this will draw out the me first players that haven’t bought into the regime yet and McD will see who they are so that he can clean house next year. I am glad they are benched. I love them both on a talent level but support the coach on this. A house divided against itself cannot stand… or win football games.
Bowlen went through ALOT getting rid of the Shan-man,
might as well get rid of all the players that “HIS” coach thinks so little of and get this over with. We’re gunna see what kind of “groceries” (“Parcells”) our young head coach can bring in to his system. I really hope he knows what he’s doing.
dawkins, goodman, hill
those three have been high points this season and it gives me faith for the future… not to mention bringing in nolan (who shanny didn’t want) and nunnely (sp?)
What about Graham.
If there was ever a Shanahan guy, it’d be Graham and his well above market contract. The same Graham that has struggled at times this year. The same Graham that NE, when McD was O coordinator, didn’t want? Why doesn’t the Great McDaniels Pogrom extend to him…or Wiegmann…D.J. Williams…Elvis Dumervile…Marcuas Thomas…my fingers are getting tired….
So this is war...misfortune at every bend in the road. Misery and murdered mules and sudden death in a ditch.-- Rick Atkinson "An Army at Dawn"
by PredominantlyOrange on Jan 3, 2010 8:59 AM MST up reply actions
Wiegmann threated to retire if he didn’t get a new deal. He got one and pulled a little bit of a Gerrard Warren. Team 1st all the way with him.
Wiegmann
had every right to retire if he wanted to, especially at his age. And I think he gives 100% every play – even though he isn’t the best center in the league.
War is behavior with its roots in the primal sea - eat whatever you touch, or it will eat you. John Fowles
Sure… He’s been a real hog for us this year. I expected that fresh off this 2008 Pro Bowl appearance.
Are you saying
that you don’t think Wiegmann gives 100% effort all the time?
War is behavior with its roots in the primal sea - eat whatever you touch, or it will eat you. John Fowles
Dude, he's 36 years old.
I have a theory about his crummy performance that, amazingly, has nothing to do with the new coaching regime. True story.
The O-line is the season’s single biggest disappointment. Using two blocking schemes that don’t fit the players… Please, by all means, please don’t criticize the coaching for our O-line troubles. When guys like Clady regress, it’s clearly 100% on the players. I get it. And Weigmann was 35 last season. Not a spring chicken on his way to the Pro Bowl.
Do careers end at 36. I didn’t know that.
Lots or reasons for the O line problems
Broncos were 6-0 until Harris went out, for one. Polumbus isn’t half as good. I think Hamilton and Wiegmann did wear down some. And yes, I too think McD made a big mistake by shifting from zone to power blocking without the right personnel for it. But I don’t know if that was a mistake.
War is behavior with its roots in the primal sea - eat whatever you touch, or it will eat you. John Fowles
I came to these comments whilst hopping about through the thread so for a minute I wasn’t sure of the context (serious vs. context) … guess I should read everything in order. But anyway, I completely agree with your assertion (I think?) that the O-line is in big trouble right now, and that it seems mainly to be a bad mix of scheme, players, and coaching. All three are culpable when it doesn’t come together as designed. Would have been brilliant had it worked, but it didn’t so it’s clearly [the opposite of brilliant].
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Jan 3, 2010 8:56 PM MST up reply actions
serious vs. sarcasm, i meant to say
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Jan 3, 2010 8:57 PM MST up reply actions
There hasn't been a second I've questioned Wiegmann's heart.
Effort is the best place to find malingerers, and malingerers can speak to coaching revolt. There isn’t a coaching revolt problem on this team, but rather personnel problems.
So this is war...misfortune at every bend in the road. Misery and murdered mules and sudden death in a ditch.-- Rick Atkinson "An Army at Dawn"
by PredominantlyOrange on Jan 3, 2010 9:36 AM MST up reply actions
Daniel Graham is a pro's pro
As are all the others mentioned above. BTW, isn’t it great how Marcus thomas ahs turned things around?
War is behavior with its roots in the primal sea - eat whatever you touch, or it will eat you. John Fowles
my recollection was that Graham was signed as a free agent
That he decided to leave NE and come to Denver because he thought Shanny would give him more receiving opportunities.
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Jan 3, 2010 8:59 PM MST up reply actions
ok seriously
WHAT HAS SCHEFFLER EVEN DONE THIS YEAR EXCEPT FOR DROP PASSES he was good last year but graham has been alot more useful this who cares about jay bff let him sit these comments are exactly why he is sitting
what would shanny give to get sheff?
a 2nd rounder?
by RockyMountainHigh on Jan 2, 2010 11:18 PM MST reply actions
A bucket of pucks, maybe.
So this is war...misfortune at every bend in the road. Misery and murdered mules and sudden death in a ditch.-- Rick Atkinson "An Army at Dawn"
by PredominantlyOrange on Jan 3, 2010 9:01 AM MST up reply actions
What has Sheff done?
maybe I’m alittle bias living in San Diego, but that catch in the corner of the endzonen would make me want to tailer make an offense towards a TE. I know he’s dropped a few passes, but he’s alse caught the few great passes his way…………..end of raiders game…..pointless pass by Orton but great catch
pssst Hey Tony, I've got a newsflash for ya
You’re not a very good tight end like your air filled agent makes you out to be. Maybe you’re just pissed because you knew McD drafting Richard Quinn meant your days were numbered.
John Clayton is the head Dean at Fail University (known as F.U. in short)
Formerly known as Calijoefornia
The sad part
Is that these players are proving to the nation that they need to air out their laundry through the media like children that keep crying, “Coach is being mean to me!” WAH Effin’ WAH!
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
absolutely
I mean, even if Schef has a point, and even if we can understand how he feels, you don’t cry to the media about a choice your coach is making that the coach believes is good for the team.
I mean, it’s so short-sighted. Schef knows ahead of time that he is being called out as having an attitude that goes against the team. He knows that he’s being painted that way, BEFORE he opens his mouth. And he responds by commenting to the press in a way that tries to cause even more division, confirming what McDaniels is saying.
Wahhhhhhhhhh....Wahhhhhhhhhh...I;m a Competitor.....Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh………Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh…….Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh…….Hey Buss do I sound like Jay yet?
I thought you WERE Jay for a second. You had me convinced. hahaha
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Girl, you don't need to be a 10, as long as you have a good smile and smell like bacon.
Any coincidence
that he has something to say on the same day Bus (I wet myself) Cook spews his filth to the media.
I hope, after all this is said and done
McD and Xanders never do business with a Bus Cook client again. This dude is garbage as an agent. All his big name clients have a history of being malcontents and generally aren’t very good people. The best thing McX could do, in my opinion, is avoid this cancer at all costs.
John Clayton is the head Dean at Fail University (known as F.U. in short)
Formerly known as Calijoefornia
I've followed this story over the last three days withholding judgement
I’ve tried to think about it from all sides based on the limited information we have.
All I keep coming back to is that everybody involved deserves a slap, no-one has represented the Broncos franchise professionally in this childish spat.
by djmbluemoon on Jan 3, 2010 1:32 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
Scapegoats! Get your Scapegoats here!
McDamniels is just trying to make excuses for not winning. Just like after most losses this year, “It’s all the players’ fault!” What a baby…
yeah except the 4-5 times I have heard him specifically state the coaching needs to be better
but that would go against your point so you leave it out
That's far too fair and logical.
And if you remember, Shanahan, Walsh, Parcells, Lombardi— they all are famous for laying their souls bare in press conference and whipping their own ineptitude into searing welts across their backs….
So this is war...misfortune at every bend in the road. Misery and murdered mules and sudden death in a ditch.-- Rick Atkinson "An Army at Dawn"
by PredominantlyOrange on Jan 3, 2010 8:54 AM MST up reply actions
Yeah, c'mon Todd
Merlin knows what he knows- don’t try to confuse him with this logic or factiness stuff. You probably like books too, dontcha??
by AllBroncsallday on Jan 3, 2010 9:02 AM MST up reply actions
Does Napoleon ever say
that he himself was at least partly to blame? Nope. Whenever he says “The coaching needs to be better,” he is not talking about himself…he’s throwing his staff under the bus. Does he ever say that the play calling was poor? Nope.
I love the symmetry...
…between JC’s threat of mutiny a year ago and Scheff’s this year.
Who knows whats going on here. I think it might have a little to do with all the drops and pouty body language Scheff has been displaying the last 6 weeks. .
I do know that a grown-up never blames another man for his circumstances— you don’t get things taken away from you in adult land. You find your part, own it, move on. So I’ll personally be glad to watch Tony be a half-assed-blocking- WR-hybrid prone to crunch time drops else where.
So this is war...misfortune at every bend in the road. Misery and murdered mules and sudden death in a ditch.-- Rick Atkinson "An Army at Dawn"
by PredominantlyOrange on Jan 3, 2010 8:51 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
Love the adult-land comment. I completely agree here. It seems our “professional” athletes have a very skewed vision of reality.
A point of perspective here: I’m 29, and in the last two years have seen my role “transitioned” elsewhere 3 times. I guess that’s the wonderful world of accounting and finance. Here’s the point though, each time I didn’t pout or complain. The result is a pretty hefty promotion and professional (and personal) growth.
Scheff/Marshall: BE A MAN! Quite bitching that the new hotshot in town isn’t playing nice! There are far too many people out of work right now in the real world that dream of making what you do lacing your shoes up each week annually!
by attackparrot on Jan 3, 2010 9:35 AM MST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
This is
A Bus Cook Op, all the way. It’s no coincidence that Cook spoke up yesterday, and then this comes out. This is how the Bus rolls, and I’d bet that McX have had more than enough of it.
Scheffler you’re OUTTA here pal, and you’ll be taking scumbag Cook and his team-destroying games with ya.
According to Broncos sources, the problems with Marshall and Scheffler came after team leaders including Brian Dawkins, Champ Bailey, Kyle Orton, DJ Williams and Daniel Graham all met with McDaniels on Monday and encouraged him to take a hardline approach in preparing the team to finish the season against the Chiefs.
That development, combined with a home loss to the Raiders, compelled McDaniels to emphasize the need for accountability in a full team meeting Wednesday. It was later that day when Marshall complained about his hamstring.
Scheffler was presumably demoted to the scout team after he was overheard telling teammates that he couldn’t wait for Denver’s season to end.
The latest showdown between the head coach and the Pro Bowl receiver actually began the week before when Marshall excused himself from practice, complaining the cold weather was making it difficult for him to breathe.
Yeah this is definitely McDaniels fault … /roll eyes
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