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2010 NFL Draft -- Underclassmen Impact -- Offense Part I

Yesterday we took a look at where all the Special Eligibility players -- underclassmen, possible medical redshirts, etc -- fit in the grand scheme of the draft.  Today we will look at how some offensive members of that group fit into the Broncos possible plans.

I'll be looking at this group according to their overall rankings on nfldraftscout.com, and for now I will ignore my own preference for ordering them.  The underclassmen generally make or break the positional depth of any given draft year, and this year is certainly no exception, most notably in the defensive backfield, and DE positions, but it is also felt on the O-Line.  Top talented underclassmen lead the QB, WR and RB classes, while a small handful of talented DTs and LBs bolster those corps.  And, in what is becoming a biannual event, the TE class would be nonexistent if it weren't for the declaring juniors, though it should be noted that Jermaine Gresham is a senior, and qualified for this list as one of the players eligible for a medical exemption.

On to the talent:

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Editor's Note:  I want to reinforce here that this analysis shouldn't be taken as me advocating certain picks over others.  I think the comment I made about Dez Bryant might lead some to think that, but all I am trying to do is indicate who we could take, not who we should take.  At this stage in the process, I just want to share with everyone who I think belongs on our draft board, and who I think doesn't, based on things like fit, scheme, current roster structure, etc.  To this end, I am not looking at these players in the sense that I am saying this guy or this other guy, I am looking at them in more or less of a vacuum, with only their relevance to the Broncos, and when applicable, their expected location in the round, give or take 10-15 picks being taken into consideration.  The NFL Draft is essentially a huge decision tree, and that type of network is impotent if we don't know what decisions are available.


QB Sam Bradford - 6’4” 220 - Oklahoma -- #7 OverallMost people know his story:  he's got the stats, he's got the bling, and he's got the wins and he has all the tools.  In terms of evaluating him after his season ending shoulder injuries, he is doubtful to be ready for the Scouting Combine in March.  The next time anyone can expect to see him throwing is in early April down in Norman, Oklahoma.  Much of what scouts will be looking for at that proday event will be to see if he can do what he used to do, which was throw tight, accurate passes.  They will be looking to see if he has lost any arm strength or velocity due to the shoulder surgery, since he doesn't have all-world velocity to begin with.  What he does have is effective, and combined with his ability to quickly process information, he tends to put the ball in the right place consistently.  Two main questions surround him from a non-injury standpoint:  how well will he respond to pocket pressure? (he has always played behind stellar offensive lines) and how quickly can he learn to read defenses from under center (Oklahoma coaches were responsible for presnap reads of defenses, and they ran a spread system which didn't put Bradford under center as much as scouts would like to see).  There is occasional concerns about his ability to throw on the run, but from what I have seen, though a small sample size, these concerns are unfounded.  Would Denver be interested?  That I don't know, but he does seem like a terrific fit.

 QB Jimmy Clausen - 6’3” 220 - Notre Dame -- #9 Overall:  Another extremely accurate and prolific QB, Clausen is also not likely to be seen throwing at the combine, so the comparisons between he and Bradford will be on hold until April.  While his injury was a toe injury, he still managed to play ten games on it, which shows a degree of toughness.  Doesn't make the quick reads, nor show the field vision that Bradford does, but puts a little more on throws, and is willing to target smaller windows.  Also has more experience than average when it comes to reading defenses and changing plays.  Scouts don't need to see much from him in terms of his mobility and ability to move in the pocket, though they will want to know that his progress in that area won't be setback by time away from training.  When he starts to throw again in April, scouts will want to see him working on making dropback reads quicker, as well as moving well and reading pressure, though it should be noted that he will never be expected to be a running QB.  As far as Denver is concerned, he is another good fit, with an edge in terms of what and how he was taught, but perhaps a step behind Bradford and others in terms of post-snap processing of information.

WR Dez Bryant - 6’1” 215 - Oklahoma St -- #11 Overall:  In my personal ratings, I have Dez scored higher than Crabtree from last year, and I believe he is the kind of talent that can give dollar for dollar production even as a top five picks.  And from what I am seeing, everyone seems to think he will be available at Denver's pick.  I would take that in a heartbeat.  Bryant has some things I have been wanting at WR for awhile, including tremendous acceleration in a big frame (Eddie has the acceleration, Marshall has the frame, but Dez has both), a focus on getting upfield once he has the ball (no side to side in his repertoire), and a natural ability to highpoint the ball.  His ability off the snap makes me hopeful that one could overlook his non-elite speed, and I simply love that he doesn't have wasted motion in his catching or his after the catch running.  One complaint that has been levied against him is his suspension, but in my eyes this is far, far from a damnation of his character.  Lying about a ridiculous situation, when that situation is being used to screw you anyway is almost a moral thing to do.  The question is whether you think there was anything wrong with his lunch date with Deion.  I think I have addressed pretty well how I feel about his fit with the Broncos, but let me add another layer:  my as yet unreleased Positional Stability Index for the WR position shows one of the most significantly flawed and unstable positions on the roster.  Signing Marshall helps, but signing a top-flight, starts-immediately rookie helps even more...

WR Golden Tate - 5’10” 190 - Notre Dame --#16 Overall: A similar style player to Percy Harvin, but without the elite athleticism.  You got to see a lot of Tate when you watched Clausen in 2009, as he was definitely a favorite target, and he has the stats to prove it.  But he seems like a player who is simply too inconsistent to be a top of the line contributor to his team's winning ways, as a four game skid to end his college career can attest.  Drops, imprecise routes, and the inability to hold his ground when fighting for the ball low all give pause.  On a high note, when he attacks deep balls or goes up for the reception, he seems really tenacious, which looks all the more impressive given his smaller size.  And after he has the ball?  Watch out, because he is HARD to bring down, a real fighter.  There is a lot of raw ability here, and he still needs a lot of coaching to get the best out of him, but I don't think that Denver would be a team willing to take that on, however, he was beginning to produce on punt returns, and he has returned kickoffs, so he does have some value in that area.  Any team that takes him on will need to be prepared for his inconsistency, and it won't be surprising to see him taken completely out of games with fundamentally sloppy play on his part.  His potential will get him a look in the first round, but in my opinion, Denver shouldn't look at him that early.

RB Jonathan Dwyer - 5’11” 230 - Georgia Tech -- #18 OverallDwyer is a tough, stocky runner who can have late game handoffs fed to him on a seemingly unending basis.  He takes quite a pounding in the Georgia Tech triple-option scheme, yet he always seems to be running at full strength.  Less explosive than other top backs, he is very fluid and changes direction smoothly,a nd with good speed.  In Denver, he would physically be able to replace a guy like Lamont Jordan, in terms of reps, but he is not the all around, do-everything back that a team like Denver would look for early in a draft, and especially not as early as Dwyer will likely be considered by teams looking for the next piece to a potent one-two punch.  Scouts, especially Denver scouts, are going to want to run him through some pass catching drills, as he flashed ability in that area, though GT never seemed inclined to use him in that capacity.

OT Anthony Davis - 6’6” 325 - Rutgers -- #20 OverallMost probably don't think Denver could even consider taking an offensive tackle early in the draft, and certainly at #12 there isn't an obvious choice, but later in the first, there is an interesting prospect who could solve a lot of problems for Denver if they are in range to pick him up.  Davis is a big guy, sometimes too big, but a mauler who is one of the best "off the line" run blockers in the nation.  When he is fired up and competing few DEs and DTs can stand their ground against him, and TE's and OLBs don't stand a chance.  He has power coming off the line, and an incredibly strong punch technique which is usually enough to win the battle.  And while he had weight issues as a freshman (came in at 363 lbs, but that has been addressed) and has been suspected of motivation issues (was benched in one game for a quarter before returning), where he truly falters is in the area of technique.  He is still very raw, having started at Rutgers as a RG before being moved over to LT.  The move was prompted by his athleticism, which was needed on the outside at the time, but which is a favorable trait in an offensive scheme which features pulling linemen.  His athleticism is primarily a function of his naturally wide stance (balance) and his quick feet (mobility), and though he struggled at times with his learning of the OT slide and kick-step, he still showed a lot of promise in that area.  When it comes to what Denver is looking for, he could be a great choice for a big, interior lineman who could also backup the tackle positions.  With Ryan Harris' future performance anything but guaranteed, a combo OT/OG would be a prudent move, and Davis may be the best of the bunch, and perhaps raw enough to drop far enough in the draft for Denver to target with a later pick, if they happen to acquire one.  Downside of a player like Davis?  The dreaded "George Foster" tag, which is like a penumbra of darkness around him, and hopefully more illusion than real...

OT Bryan Bulaga - 6’6” 310 - Iowa -- #24 OverallBulaga is another experienced OT/OG combo, though all of his experience has come on the left side of the line.  He is a shade on the lighter side but should still be considered a quality target for the interior line for Denver, but he is very physical in the running game, and has been effective as a blindside protector as well.  I like him a lot, but I just can't advocate targeting him so early, with no clear evidence that he is an elite, starter type of talent. His skillset would be ideal if we were targeting for depth, a move I could see Denver making as early as the 2nd round, but as a player who is a better fit outside than in, I would have rather liked to see him being ranked as a RT in the 2nd round.  His LT skills may be just enough to put him out range for any pick Denver has or is likely to acquire before he is gone.

OT Bruce Campbell - 6’6” 310 - Maryland -- #27 OverallWhere Campbell will actually fall in the draft is as good of a mystery as any, and if he actually does fall, like maybe into the late second or early third, he will start to be a shrewd pick.  Not the most earnest competitor, very inconsistent, and highly inexperienced, he is also more of a pure OT (with all [17] of his starts at left side) and thus not a prime target for a Denver team that primarily needs depth and RT insurance.  What he has are the proper measurables for a developmental LT prospect, so his likely NFL home will be some team that has a priority need for a LT, but is picking in a location that only provides leftovers.  He reminds me of a George Foster type, a common theme it seems, and that is a road I wouldn't like to see Denver treading again, no matter what scheme they are running.

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In part II we will be looking at more offensive players, including Maurkice Puncey, RB Jahvid Best and TE Jermaine Gresham.  Expect to see it tomorrow.

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I have Bryant to Denver in my latest mock

My actual first round mock, not my offseason wishlist. I think any defensive talent worth taking at 10 or 11 will be far gone by the time we pick. Guys like McClain, Haden, Suh, McCoy, Berry—any guy who the Broncos would jump at with their first pick are probably going to be gone when they select first. Thus, best player available seems to suit me just fine. Bryant is a great player, and I would love to add him. With or without Marshall, which I think is a dumb reason for people to continue using as Bryant going to Denver. That would be a good pick even if Marshall stayed in my opinion.

by Sayre Bedinger on Jan 22, 2010 12:19 PM MST reply actions  

You're probably right

But obviously, I also hope that you’re wrong. One thing is clear – each year, mock draft boards in the early first round are filled with players who don’t get drafted. QBs, OTs and DLs, with running backs going in streaks – I’m thinking of the year we got Clady – what were there, 8 RBs that first round? – are the most common. The average for RBs was 3, last I checked, and most of them later in the round. A few defensive players such as Curry will go, but my recollection is that WRs are less commonly taken. Berry may fall into the same category as curry did, and yes, there are ALWAYS exceptions.

However – has anyone really gone through the 32 team and looked at OT vs QB needs for this year first and added the DLs to it? I recall a few drafts recently in which many players were supposed to go early but with the number of OTs, QBs and DL players, we might have a Haden or even McClain fall to us. Drafts are capricious, to say the least.

Moreno/Buckhalter in '09

by Doc Bear on Jan 22, 2010 12:55 PM MST up reply actions  

Sorry, but you lost me at Bryant

Ugh…guy is a good WR, but CMON MAN! He isn’t coming here at 11…no way.

"Precipitation, which side are you on?
Are you on the rise? Are you falling down?
Let me know, Come on let's go, yeah
Got some if you need it!" -EV

by sadaraine on Jan 22, 2010 2:44 PM MST reply actions  

I would like to hear some good arguments against taking him

I’m not saying above that he is the best choice, since it is complicated decision with a lot of variables, I’m just saying that if an obvious talent falls to you, why not take him? He should be on Denver’s draftboard, and the analysis of how he fits and how he would be used and where are worthwhile pursuits.

Precision in thought, concision in style, decision in life.

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by Jeremy Bolander on Jan 22, 2010 3:18 PM MST up reply actions  

With the rumor

that Jacksonville is switching to a 3-4, they may snatch McClain up before he gets to us. I like the Dez Bryant pick because of the dual threat as a Returner. He would get the playing time required for the money spent at the #10 – 11th pick. Jax needs an OT, but could pick one up later on, although their 2nd pick isn’t til #72.

Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks

by KaptainKirk on Jan 22, 2010 3:12 PM MST reply actions  

On Bradford:

I’ve warmed to the idea a little— on the premise that McD decides Orton isn’t the long term answer, which seems unlikely…but possible— because he seems like a good fit for what Denver wants to do.

However, watching him play a lot of snaps over the last few years, I don’t think there is any real question about this:

how well will he respond to pocket pressure?

He simply does not respond well to it at all, which is why part of me thinks Bradford could join the long list of 1st round busts. Adversity is not his strength, and his career may very well ride on being picked by the right team. It might be best for Bradford to slide in the draft, so he can build confidence and grit surrounded by a quality team that doesn’t depend too much on him early. I just don’t see him holding up getting the snot beat out of him early in his career.

So this is war...misfortune at every bend in the road. Misery and murdered mules and sudden death in a ditch.-- Rick Atkinson

by PredominantlyOrange on Jan 22, 2010 3:42 PM MST reply actions  

He did well stepping up into the pocket

He reminds me a bit of Orton in that respect, willing to take the hit to deliver the ball. It will be interesting to see what divergence the two ideas have, stepping up in the face of a blitzer vs. having a pocket collapse routinely.

Though in Denver, the pocket likely wouldn’t really have a collapsing problem, so that might contribute to “fit”. For what it is worth, my personal expectation is that he will handle the pocket pressure all right, with plenty of ups and downs.

Also, though you didn’t specifically mention it, I think his physical build will improve over the course of the next couple of years as well, so I’m not to worried in that respect. To me, he passes the sniff test and should be on the Denver board, where he can be weighed against specific options.

Precision in thought, concision in style, decision in life.

"That's MR.Styg..."

by Jeremy Bolander on Jan 22, 2010 4:15 PM MST up reply actions  

To clarify...

…yes, I agree he would be a good player for Denver and should be on their short board.

What I was getting at isn’t so much his technique, but his bearing. I’ve noticed a tendency for him to be knocked off his game under pressure or getting hit a lot. He does not appear to have that ‘gamer’ make-up and the ability to transcend adverse circumstances. Early in his college career, you could almost see fear— later. some dejection/ frustration.

Basically, I’m convinced he’s the plug-n-pay franchise QB he’s being touted as. He’ll be very good in the right system, will struggle mightily if too much weight is put on his shoulders…IMO, of course.

So this is war...misfortune at every bend in the road. Misery and murdered mules and sudden death in a ditch.-- Rick Atkinson

by PredominantlyOrange on Jan 22, 2010 4:38 PM MST up reply actions  

'I'm not convinced...', that is...

So this is war...misfortune at every bend in the road. Misery and murdered mules and sudden death in a ditch.-- Rick Atkinson

by PredominantlyOrange on Jan 22, 2010 4:39 PM MST up reply actions  

I follow

I was pretty ho hum about stafford last year for the similar reasons (I only saw him as a result of watching so much Moreno though), and I don’t know that he really removed anyof those doubts this year with the lions.

I could see a similar trajectory developing for Bradford, though it isn’t what I expect.

It’ll be fun to find out!

Precision in thought, concision in style, decision in life.

"That's MR.Styg..."

by Jeremy Bolander on Jan 22, 2010 5:19 PM MST up reply actions  

+1

Sounds like an honest, non agenda pushing, no bs assesment

Good luck with the Redskins Mr. Mike! I'll be watching and cheering for a non-Bronco team for the first time in my life. Well, except when they play the Broncos!

by Alex on Jan 22, 2010 6:44 PM MST up reply actions  

I like Bradford

more than any other QB’s in this draft, I just think there are too many other places that need attention on the team. I am not opposed to swapping the 1st pick for more picks between 15-45 if possible, because we could fill more needs. Face it, the personnel shift from last year is only half way complete. There is still room to fill at least 5 starting positions and another 6 quality depth players.

Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks

by KaptainKirk on Jan 22, 2010 4:30 PM MST reply actions  

agreed 100%

so much work to do. The status of 2011 doesn’t make it any easier to project, which is going to affect Orton’s contract offer methinks….

Precision in thought, concision in style, decision in life.

"That's MR.Styg..."

by Jeremy Bolander on Jan 22, 2010 5:20 PM MST up reply actions  

QB has got to be a need for Broncos,

Got to go with Bradford if he’s available. (which he won’t be) The guy is amazing at reading coverages and has Drew Brees type accuracy. He lost I think 4 OL this year to the draft, so yea he was getting lit up in his limited time playing. Yuo guys should pull a Jets move from last year and trade up for him.

Pass Bryant on down too please, Ravens need the best possible WR’s available.

by BmoreBlitz on Jan 25, 2010 7:43 AM MST up reply actions  

I very much enjoyed these assesments

thanks for the post! For what it’s worth, I would be pissed if we took offensive line at 10/11. The whole first round is filled with these guys and moving back, no matter how many picks we end up with, would seem the more prudent choice.

Good luck with the Redskins Mr. Mike! I'll be watching and cheering for a non-Bronco team for the first time in my life. Well, except when they play the Broncos!

by Alex on Jan 22, 2010 6:47 PM MST reply actions  

Oh, and I'll be looking forward to hearing your thoughts on Pouncey tomorrow, and rec'd of course

Good luck with the Redskins Mr. Mike! I'll be watching and cheering for a non-Bronco team for the first time in my life. Well, except when they play the Broncos!

by Alex on Jan 22, 2010 6:48 PM MST up reply actions  

I love Bryant, and I completely agree with your assessment of the guy

Rec’d and I’m excited for tomorrow!

Eddie Royal will have a breakout season in 2010. Count on it.

by stedtfeld on Jan 22, 2010 7:27 PM MST reply actions  

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