Denver Broncos Mock Draft Part 12
Brandon Marshall trade speculation is really heating up, and quite honestly his departure or lack of will dictate our entire draft. The Broncos are likely to tender the disgruntled receiver around $2.5 million, which would net them a return of a first and third round pick if any team tries to sign him. Some teams that could be looking at drafting a wide receiver early are the Dolphins, Ravens, Patriots, and Bengals.
I have been under the impression that the Broncos would trade Marshall ever since he was benched in week 17, and while I might be starting to sound like a broken record on this situation, I really think the Broncos will pursue a trade for him this offseason following the best statistical season of his career.
Marshall might not be the only one on the move either.
Believe it or not, there is a very good chance players like Tony Scheffler, Peyton Hillis, Chris Kuper, and dare I say Elvis Dumervil, who could be on the move this offseason.
Thanks to the CBA, the Broncos have one last shot to receive compensation for these players if they are unable to re-sign them to long term deals.
It was apparent thoughout the course of the season that the Broncos were ready to move on from some of these players, especially in the last couple of weeks.
The Broncos appear to me to be poised for a playoff run in 2010. After falling short in 2009, it's clear this team has the pieces in place to be a player in the postseason, but they are still a few pieces away from being an "elite" team in the AFC.
I'm now going to do my best to play the role of Brian Xanders and Josh McDaniels, and try and build the team that would give us the best chance at a Super Bowl in 2010.
Free Agents
1. Elvis Dumervil, OLB
2. Kyle Orton, QB
3. Chris Kuper, OL
4. Matt Prater, K
5. Chester Taylor, RB (Minnesota)

6. Ryan Pickett, DT (Green Bay)

7. Chad Pennington, QB (Miami)

8. Lee Evans, WR (Buffalo)

Trades
1. Brandon Marshall to Miami Dolphins for 1st round pick (12th overall) and 3rd round pick (73rd overall)
2. Tony Scheffler sign and trade with Cincinnati Bengals for 3rd round pick (84th overall)
3. Peyton Hillis to Washington Redskins for 5th round pick
4. Trade 10th overall pick (from Bears) to Baltimore Ravens for 1st round pick (25th overall) and 2nd round pick (57th overall).
5. Trade 12th overall pick (from Dolphins) to Green Bay Packers for 1st round pick (23rd overall), 3rd round pick (86th overall) and 5th round pick.
Pre-Draft: Selection Slots
1st Round
- 23rd overall (from Green Bay)
- 25th overall (from Baltimore)
2nd Round
- 45th overall
- 57th overall (from Ravens)
3rd Round
- 73rd overall (from Dolphins)
- 80th overall
- 84th overall (from Bengals)
- 86th overall (from Packers)
4th Round
5th Round (from Redskins)
5th Round (from Packers)
6th Round
7th Round
Going into the draft with 13 picks, we can basically dictate our board. I think this gives us the flexibility to go with defense in the first round, and revamp our offensive line in the second. The signing of Lee Evans gives us the deep threat we really need, and we can go after a big possession receiver in the draft and use another pick on a different area.
The Draft
1. First Round, 23rd overall (from Packers): Mike Iupati, Guard, Idaho
6'5" 330
Iupati (not Lupati, for those who are commonly mistaken) is probably the best guard prospect available in this draft, and the Broncos would be wise to go after him here. He can shore up the interior of their offensive line. He is a massive body in the middle with great athleticism.

2. First Round, 25th overall (from Ravens): Dan Williams, Defensive Lineman, Tennessee
6'2" 327
I can't say I'm fully on board with drafting Williams, but if we can get him at this point in the first round I would welcome it with open arms. Williams is a very athletic nose tackle prospect who could likely make the transition to end in our scheme if need be. I think adding Pickett and Williams would be great for our defensive line. I also wouldn't mind seeing Chris Baker in the rotation this year as well.

**Projected Trade: Broncos trade 73rd pick (from Dolphins) and 86th pick (from Packers) to Patriots for 42nd pick (from Tennessee) and 5th round pick**
3. Second Round, 42nd overall (from Patriots thru Titans): Brandon Spikes, Linebacker, Florida
6'4" 256
I don't think Rolando McClain will be available with our first pick, but Spikes is an outstanding alternative here. He has all the tools to be a succssful inside linebacker in the 3-4 defense, and would work well alongside D.J. Williams. If you have any reservations about him in the second round, I refer you to the likes of James Laurinaitis and Rey Maualuga last year, and DeMeco Ryans in 2006.

4. Second Round, 45th overall: Maurkice Pouncey, Center, Florida
6'5" 320
Pouncey is the top center prospect in this draft, and we would have to be ecstatic if he fell to us here. He's currently rated a high-mid second round pick by most outlets, so it's certainly possible the Broncos can get him here. He and Iupati represent the future of our interior line, and a bright one at that if both pan out.

5. Second Round, 57th overall (from Ravens): Arrelious Benn, Wide Receiver, Illinois
6'2" 225
Benn is currently rated as the 55th overall prospect on the draft board I reference, so he is a real possibility for this slot if things stay the way they are. I think he would be a nice replacement for Marshall as our possession receiver. He was not extremely productive for Illinois, but that's because their quarterback situation was in limbo.

6. Third Round, 80th overall: Amari Spievey, Cornerback, Iowa
6'1" 190
Andre Goodman and Champ Bailey are both nearing 32 years of age, and Alphonso Smith's rookie season wasn't enough to comfort any Bronco fan in this area of the field. Spievey has shutdown potential at the next level, and if he improves his speed he can also be a very effective return man.

7. Third Round, 84th overall (from Bengals): Javier Arenas, Cornerback, Alabama
5'9" 198
Speaking of adding a return man, I don't think there is a more perfect fit for that position in this draft han Arenas, arguably the best return man in the history of college football. Arenas, while a great return man, is also an excellent nickel cornerback. He has excellent versatility and would be a welcome addition to this team in my opinion.

8. Fourth Round: Ciron Black, Offensive Lineman, LSU
6'5" 322
At this point, I think Black adds excellent depth to our offensive line. He can play, and has played every position but center. I like his size and versatility, though he might be better suited for the guard position I think he can be a solid backup tackle for us as well.

9. Fifth Round (from Redskins): Vince Oghobaase, Defensive Lineman, Duke
6'5" 305
Oghobaase could go sooner than this, but in such a deep draft his name often gets a little lost. I think he'd be a nice value pick right here for us. He has the size and strength to make the transition to the five technique in the NFL.

10. Fifth Round (from Packers): Cameron Sheffield, Outside Linebacker, Troy
6'2" 240
Another pass rushing option for the Broncos who lack one outside of Elvis Dumervil. Sheffield had a very nice senior season for the Trojans with 62 tackles, 10.5 tackles for loss, and 7 sacks. I think he could be a good situational pass rusher for the next level.

11. Fifth Round (from Patriots): Linval Joseph, Nose Tackle, East Carolina
6'6" 322
Just another massive body to add to our front line. This guy left early from college at East Carolina, so he's got some talent but against lesser competition. I think he'd be a nice addition to our defensive line.

12. Sixth Round: Andre Dixon, Running Back, UConn
6'1" 200
A speedier back to compliment the new trio of Moreno, Buckhalterl, and Taylor. I think Dixon has been really impressive this offseason, and his combination of size and speed are enticing to me.

13. Seventh Round: Brandon Carter, Guard, Texas Tech
6'6" 340
Carter is a big, nasty offensive lineman who plays with a mean streak. He has the potential to be a great guard at the next level if he keeps his intensity level high.

Depth Chart
QB: Kyle Orton, Chad Pennington, Tom Brandstater
RB: Knowshon Moreno, Chester Taylor, Correll Buckhalter, Andre Dixon (r)
FB: Spencer Larsen
WR: Eddie Royal, Brandon Stokley
WR: Lee Evans, Jabar Gaffney
WR: Arrelious Benn, Kenny McKinley
TE: Daniel Graham, Richard Quinn, Marquez Branson
LT: Ryan Clady, Ciron Black (r)
LG: Mike Iupati (r), Seth Olsen
C: Maurkice Pouncey (r), Dustin Fry
RG: Chris Kuper, Brandon Carter (r)
RT: Ryan Harris, Tyler Polumbus
DE: Dan Williams (r), Ron Fields, Marcus Thomas
DT: Ryan Pickett, Chris Baker, Linval Joseph (r)
DE: Ryan McBean, Vince Oghobaase (r)
OLB: Elvis Dumervil, Mario Haggan
ILB: Brandon Spikes (r), Andra Davis
ILB: D.J. Williams, Wesley Woodyard
OLB: Robert Ayers, Darrell Reid, Cameron Sheffield (r)
CB: Champ Bailey, Alphonso Smith, Javier Arenas (r)
CB: Andre Goodman, Amari Spievey (r)
S: Brian Dawkins, Darcel McBath
S: Renaldo Hill, David Bruton, Josh Barrett
K: Matt Prater
KR: Amari Spievey
PR: Javier Arenas
LS: Lonie Paxton
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i like it
you think Spievey will go in the third? i’ve been flirting with him more like in the 6th
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I think he could go as high as 2nd
He is a great prospect. If he goes in the sixth, he was poorly advised by the people who told him to come out.
by Sayre Bedinger on Jan 24, 2010 7:05 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah, He'll be first 3 rounds
He’s either the best or 2nd best Big 10 CB to come out, and he is a great, strong corner who knows where the ball is and has modest return skills.
However, as I said to Sayre previously, I’m a Hawkeye fan and alum, and I just don’t know if Spievey has the speed to be a man corner. I would love to see him succeed, but I do try to look at the negatives as well. Iowa plays a ton of Cover 2, and he really excelled in that.
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AWESOME
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Why has nobody made a live-action game of Chutes and Ladders? I'd be first in line.
Haha Thanks!
This one got me pretty pumped!
by Sayre Bedinger on Jan 24, 2010 7:06 PM MST up reply actions
Sayre...
AWESOME…This draft scenario is the BEST! You should send this to the office of Brian Xanders….I got nothing to add to this masterpiece. Enough said …! Let’s do this…
"Attitude reflects Leadership" Hogblog...aka KSM
Thank you!
If I knew his e-mail, I would certainly send this to him, along with some other thoughts…Thanks for your comment!
by Sayre Bedinger on Jan 24, 2010 7:07 PM MST up reply actions
Forget mailing this to Xanders. If you can arrange a draft like that, take his job.
I’ll be a reference on your resume, for what it’s worth.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Why has nobody made a live-action game of Chutes and Ladders? I'd be first in line.
Lol
Thanks, I’ve always dreamed of having a seat in our draft room…. haha
by Sayre Bedinger on Jan 24, 2010 7:10 PM MST up reply actions
Good one kb, lol
"All credibility, all good conscience, all evidence of truth come only from the senses." Friedrich Nietzsche
Draft Benn if he is available.
That is all.
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I agree
He is going to be a good player, I was surprised my reference board had him rated as a mid second rounder.
by Sayre Bedinger on Jan 24, 2010 7:10 PM MST up reply actions
Nice draft
But there are 3 things before you even begin that I just dont see happening:
1. Scheffler will not be traded for a 3rd round pick.
2. Hillis will definately not be worth a 5th round pick. How much production did he have in 2009? Oh, yeah…none
3. Miami wont take the trade with Marshall. They’re a running team based around Williams and Brown and from what I can gather are salivating with the prospect of overhauling their defence through the draft (and Parcells wouldnt let the guy anywhere near their locker).
Apart from those I love your draft!! I reckon it might be waaayy too optimistic though
by nzlbroncos on Jan 24, 2010 7:01 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
Also, dont rule out trades which involve future picks too.
Dont think Ive seen a mock to include a future draft trade yet. But if McDaniels et al. find a player who fits their 100 (or whatever) draft board and they fall to them, we could very easily see another alphonso smith type deal
You could be right...
But so could I.
1. I disagree, and sorry, I wouldn’t trade Scheffler for anything less if I were a GM. No fourth or fifth round pick will even match his production this year.
2. Hillis is better, I’ll be willing to say, than any 5th round pick in this draft. And will be more productive for the Skins.
3. Miami could trade for Marshall. Their young QB Henne is needing a top tier target to develop effectively and I can see them going Dez Bryant if he falls to them anyway.
by Sayre Bedinger on Jan 24, 2010 7:17 PM MST up reply actions
Loving your work
Thats why these mock drafts are so much fun.
If you have time do you think you would be able to put together a board of say 20-30 players who would be good fits for the Broncos (minus projected rounds etc)? Kinda like a mini-McDaniels draft board.
I ask for 2 reasons: (1) you know more about the players coming through the draft than i do. (2) be wary of developing a consensus regarding certain players in the draft.
otherwise, thanks for your work and keep it up!
Why would Parcells have a problem with him?
It might just be me but, didn’t Parcells draft Keyshawn 1st over all with the Jets, and then resign him to the Cowboys? And didn’t the Cowboys bring in TO while he was there? Doesn’t seem like Parcells would have a problem with flashy WRs with issues…
This is a great mock. Here are my thoughts.
1. I love all of the players that you drafted. I’m on board with them all.
2. I wonder if there is a little bit of wishful thinking assuming those players in the second round will still be around.
3. In this year with the CBA and all that, it makes sense there will be less free agency and more trades. Since we have ass-loads of draft picks with this mock, shouldn’t we use at least a small percentage of them in trades for veteran players?
4. I don’t think Miami will give up their first for BM. What do you think about trading BM for Tampa Bay’s two early second rounders? That seems more likely.
5. I’m totally with you on the players you have your eye on.
Not a problem, I understand
I might be wishful thinking a tad, but for the most part I went with NFLDraftScout.com’s ratings. I definitely agree about trading for vets though, you could definitely be right there. Who did you have in mind?
Also I am on the fence about Miami trading their first for Marshall, but I think it is a definite possibility. I also like your trade with Tampa, though I’m not sure they can afford to do anything but rebuild their defense this offseason, but they could be a potential landing spot.
by Sayre Bedinger on Jan 24, 2010 7:22 PM MST up reply actions
Schwing!!!
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
Miami
should trade for Marshall. I heard that they are trying to evolve away more from the Wildcat, and Brandon would be a great target for Henne.
And, I like a starting WR core of Lee Evans and Arrelious Benn with Royal and Gaffney as the third and fourth WR’s. Very nice.
Also, getting Iupati and Pouncey will upgrade the weak spots on the O-line, and I like the depth added with Black and the guy from Texas Tech.
If this turns out to be reality, we are in the postseason next year. Book it!!!
I agree
With all of the above. I think adding depth to the offensive line in this deep OLine draft is essential, and if we could even come away with two of those three guys we should consider it a success. Getting all four would be excellent maneuvering for our front office.
by Sayre Bedinger on Jan 24, 2010 8:55 PM MST up reply actions
I agree w/ two of the three
if only because I don’t think McDaniels will “load up” w/ this many linemen. Your depth chart is conspicuously missing Russ Hochstein who I think typifies what McDaniels is looking for in a backup OL…versatilty. Hochstein and Olsen’s current precense w/ franchise makes me doubt that we would draft and start two rookie OL. Especially at positions of importance like C and LG. Kind of tenuous position, experience wise, at vital positions for a team supposedly about to make a playoff run……
I like the players, I just feel it’s too many and McDaniels “depth” will include a smaller number of men who can play multiple, read 4+, line positions. I see us drafting a G, C and, maybe, a backup T, but I also see Olsen and Hochstein playing important roles next year.
"You can make mistakes, but you are not a failure until you blame others for those mistakes." -John Wooden
You're dangerous Sayre (tongue in cheek)
It wouldn’t surprise me if something like this were to happen in the offseason, but talk about rebuilding a large portion of the team. Obviously you assumed that Haden and McClain would be gone and that Dan Williams would be passed up. Brandon Spikes is not a bad pick, but from what I’ve read about him, I don’t think he’d be ready to go in 2010.
I love the depth chart for the linemen on both sides of the ball the most. Nice mock!
"All credibility, all good conscience, all evidence of truth come only from the senses." Friedrich Nietzsche
I do assume both Haden and McClain are gone
Because I truly believe both will be. As for Dan Williams, he is ranked 25th on the prospect board that I use, so I just went off of that. I try not to use my own prospect ratings, just to keep my selections a little more unbiased. Spikes is NFL ready to me right now, but you might be right.
Thanks again!
by Sayre Bedinger on Jan 24, 2010 8:58 PM MST up reply actions
On Spikes
Ignoring the eye-gouging incident, his stats have been going in the wrong direction since his sophomore year:
- In 2007, he started off posting 131 tackles of which 81 were solo and 16 tackles for a loss.
- In 2008, he dropped in tackles to 87 of which 48 were solo, with eight tackles for a loss, had 2.0 sacks, and four interceptions (two of them he returned for touchdowns)
- In 2009, his performance dropped off to 52 tackles, 26 solo, and 3.0 sacks.
He’s still very impressive and has potential, but college players are supposed to get better as they get older, rather than the other way around. He appears to be regressing.
"All credibility, all good conscience, all evidence of truth come only from the senses." Friedrich Nietzsche
Has a little something to do with
losing his better DTs Ray McDonald and Marcus Thomas b/w his sophomore and junior year. Thus his last few years he’s had to deal with the one weakness on the Gators D being right in front of him. So with more blockers coming his way and less talented DT to keep them off him his production has slipped. Plus the Gators perimeter talent got better b/w then so he had to make less sideline to sideline plays.
The only differences to me b/w McClain and Spikes is that Spikes has been in the public eye longer, thus scrutinized more. Kinda like Mauluga. McClain maybe the better run defender, but Spikes is a much more versatile blitzer and both are equal in coverage. Neither would be a bad option for the Broncos.
"You can make mistakes, but you are not a failure until you blame others for those mistakes." -John Wooden
I wish
But there’s no way we would trade that many times
For a second, I thought it was a "vomit" smilie. How rude. lol
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Why has nobody made a live-action game of Chutes and Ladders? I'd be first in line.
by Troy Hufford on Jan 24, 2010 9:52 PM MST up reply actions
That would be an amazing offseason
If we could get them all. I like your trades and if we had an offseason like that I would be ecstatic.
Eddie Royal will have a breakout season in 2010. Count on it.
I agree
Even if we could get a few, I would still be happy. I know the projected trades make this more of a wish list, but I still think it’s a possibility.
by Sayre Bedinger on Jan 24, 2010 8:59 PM MST up reply actions
I thought your last mock draft was good, but wow!
Great balance in terms of meeting needs. OL, DL, ILB, CB, KR all covered. Struggling to find anything wrong at all with this haul. I suppose the only thing I can think of would be that I don’t think we will take 10 OL into the season so in place of Carter I would prefer trying to get another developmental QB like Skelton ifhe is still available.
Thanks!
We could also part ways with Polumbus, and just go into the season with nine. I wouldn’t oppose that either.
by Sayre Bedinger on Jan 24, 2010 8:59 PM MST up reply actions
I LIKE IT. but this is a smart approach to team building that won't truly produce for a few years...
So many variables here but THIS draft would be THE WAY to build a team smartly, with patience.
My questions would be … Do we have to lose BM?
And more importantly ; Will McD (after his last draft) show this kind of patience and will he even be allowed to?
Frustrated Bronco fan banished to the Northwest!!!
Logged on & read this post a while a go and was so frustrated I just walked away. Taking into consideration all of the shortcomings of a Brandon Marshall. I know the list is long and well pretty ugly but we take him out of the equation and remove his production out of the line-up then we are the 2 to 3 win team that everyone expected us to be. Do you honestly think that we will be poised for a playoff push in 2010 by trading BM away for a 1st & a 3rd? I think not, & i am not certain what the answer is, but I do know he is a rare talent with a lot of baggage that somehow needs to be reigned in. Just my opinion, maybe I’m way out there. Would like to see us sign some key FA’s , maybe Seymore, Wilfork & pick up some quality talent in the draft but I would sure hate to see the beast depart.
It's not like we are just going to give him away.
Sure, it would be a waste to just cut him tomorrow and let someone sign him for nothing. This isn’t going to happen, though. If we do deal him, it will be for great compensation.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Why has nobody made a live-action game of Chutes and Ladders? I'd be first in line.
by Troy Hufford on Jan 24, 2010 9:32 PM MST up reply actions
Good job, Sayre.
This mock draft puts lots of beef in the trenches. As you said in the beginning, we may see the exodus of several players incl Kuper and DOOM. Perish the thought – but it may help build the team. I love Lee Evans. What a player to add. Ryan Pickett would be a huge addition.
It is one thing to stockpile picks – it is quite another to use them wisely. It looks like you have done this. The only concernI have is about taking Spikes before Pouncey. We are more vulnerable at OC.
Thanks for your time and energy.
Kuper and Dumervil must stay
Perhaps we could start a petition and submit to Dove Valley.
"All credibility, all good conscience, all evidence of truth come only from the senses." Friedrich Nietzsche
Thanks
You could certainly be right about taking Pouncey before Spikes, and I wouldn’t oppose it. I think there is a good chance if we made that trade with New England that it would be for Pouncey and not Spikes.
by Sayre Bedinger on Jan 25, 2010 12:10 AM MST up reply actions
DUDE IM DIGGING YOUR PICK!!!!
I’m in love with the Chestor Taylor pick and Lee Evans. Not that I dont like your other picks but dam it would be great if we get Taylor and Evans.
You might not believe me but I also had Marshall going to Miami.
As for the draft i cant say much because I only watch UCLA and Broncos football.
That being said I would prefer Brian Price over Dan Williams. Price has SO MUCH potential and he never gives up on a play. On the other hand I’ve read that Dan Williams can be inconsistent.
Brandon Spikes would be a great pick if we cant get McClain.
The CB and RB you chose are also my favorites.The receivers are getting bigger in the NFL and finding a big CB is hard this would be a great pick.
As for the RB im not suprised since we might be letting Hillis go SIGH.And Bucky gets injured and I get UPSET when Jordan gets carries instead of Hillis. So a young big RB would be great.
OVERALL I GIVE YOUR PICKS A 9/10 BECAUSE YOU DIDINT MENTION ANY UCLA PLAYERS
by Cali_BroncosFan on Jan 24, 2010 9:25 PM MST reply actions
Thanks!
I actually initially had Williams and Price as my first round picks, then I changed the first one to Iupati. There is a chance Iupati won’t be there on my next one, so maybe then I’ll switch it up a bit. Thanks for your comment!
by Sayre Bedinger on Jan 25, 2010 12:11 AM MST up reply actions
I dont know why cause i hated him in college but
I really think we should take a crack at tim tebow….the guys a winner….and yeah his release is wierd but so is phillip rivers….
besides that i would be ecstatic if this happend
Mile High Salute
I am on board with Tebow
I don’t know if that’s a big secret around here, but I LOVE Tebow.
by Sayre Bedinger on Jan 25, 2010 12:12 AM MST up reply actions
Lee Evans?
That FA signing alone is huge. Could you imagine him with a team that gives a damn?
And I have to agree that if we picked up these free agents and drafted/traded like this over the next few months I could be very happy. I cannot wait to see what we actually do.
I know, right?
Evans is what this offense is lacking—a true deep threat. He could give us that, and we could go after another WR in the draft. I would enjoy that very much.
by Sayre Bedinger on Jan 25, 2010 12:12 AM MST up reply actions
Agreed completely.
Been a while since we’ve been able to stretch the field vertically……biggest move you project, in my opinion. Helps set up and open up all of McDaniels favorite underneath stuff.
"You can make mistakes, but you are not a failure until you blame others for those mistakes." -John Wooden
You’ve given the Broncos the best possible offseason in the history of the NFL. Love the draft and love FA you have envisioned. Too bad it’s a Madden Football dream.
No more mocks for a while…. Please. These endless mocks have gone past the point of diminishing returns
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i agree with you McG but damn...
could you just try a sip?
by Whidbey Bronco on Jan 24, 2010 10:02 PM MST up reply actions
Then don't read them?
I appreciate your comments, but you don’t have to read the mocks if you don’t want to…
by Sayre Bedinger on Jan 25, 2010 12:07 AM MST up reply actions
Awesomest off season ever...
…which is to say: too good to be true. I can’t see Denver using 8 picks in the first 3 rounds.
So this is war...misfortune at every bend in the road. Misery and murdered mules and sudden death in a ditch.-- Rick Atkinson
by PredominantlyOrange on Jan 24, 2010 10:04 PM MST reply actions
You are probably right
If any of these trades amount to anything, I’d be surprised if one or more weren’t dealt for vets.
by Sayre Bedinger on Jan 25, 2010 12:13 AM MST up reply actions
I'm sorry (this isn't a knock against you), but I can't take any mocks that involve potental trades seriously.
They make things ridiculously and unrealistically speculative to a degree magnitudes beyond a straight mock.
Why, cause trades never happen?
Predicting a trade is no different than predicting a pick, in my opinion.
by Sayre Bedinger on Jan 25, 2010 12:08 AM MST up reply actions
This is the best one I've seen yet.
Great mock, Sayre.
The only thing i’d do differently is to sign carlos Dansby and trade for boldin with the 2nd that you used on spikes. other than that, I’d say it’s perfect.
by bailey disciple on Jan 24, 2010 10:36 PM MST reply actions
That'd get pretty spendy
But it would also be awesome.
by Sayre Bedinger on Jan 25, 2010 12:14 AM MST up reply actions
My only question is this:
Why have you done nothing to shore up the RT position? Harris is fine, but if he goes down again, why are you satisfied with Polumbus? Do you think interior line talent will help Polumbus that much? I’m just shocked that something (I thought) most of us saw as a glaring weakness is not addressed in your draft.
I dig the Pennington thing. Nice choice.
Talk to me.
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
just so long as we address the o line in some fashion beyond one or two pick-ups...
by Whidbey Bronco on Jan 24, 2010 11:03 PM MST up reply actions
Do you think that throwing a bunch of left tackles in there will improve us?
I know that’s hyperbole, but in all seriousness, don’t you think we should lose tyler P? Or do you think upgrades on the interior line will make him look better.
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
Like the draft but...
Andre Dixon will not be confused as a speed back at UConn. He is a bruiser, who looks for contact. At UConn, they platooned him with the speedier Todman and they ran him in the 4th quarter to pound the opposing D.
But, I would love to see a UConn guy on this team, they are coached to be blue collar and hard working guys.
Good call
I guess compared to our slow tandem of backs, he’s pretty speedy :D
by Sayre Bedinger on Jan 25, 2010 12:15 AM MST up reply actions
I dont really know that much about many college players
But after looking at some of the measurables listed I am LOVING the beef. I want big and mean, that identity for our lineman on both sides of the ball.
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by Choochoobonewagon on Jan 25, 2010 1:52 AM MST reply actions
I agree
And I think this is the perfect draft to address that.
by Sayre Bedinger on Jan 25, 2010 9:35 AM MST up reply actions
Another thing
Sayre, I like the Pennington signing. If we can get him, I would let Orton go, and bring in a rookie QB like Snead in the second round or Skelton or Sean Canfield in the fourth round. Then, you can just give the ball to Pennington for a few years and move Brandstater to second string. Also, you have that competition for the future QB between him and the draftee.
You prefer Pennington over orton....what are you smoking!
Nice mock Sayre!
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I don't know that I prefer Pennington to Orton
I just like Pennington as an upgrade over Chris Simms.
by Sayre Bedinger on Jan 25, 2010 9:36 AM MST up reply actions
If we can get Pouncey and the guard from Ldaho, It'll go a long way.
If I could point to one reason why the Broncos finished 8-8, I would say it was the weakness of their interior O-line. If we get those guys (and they perform as projected), we’re a playoff team.
Even without Brandon Marshall.
I agree
The interior line was a huge issue. I really hope Seth Olsen can fill a spot, but some of these guys are too talented to pass up here.
by Sayre Bedinger on Jan 25, 2010 9:37 AM MST up reply actions
Followed you from Bleacher Report
Hey Sayre. It’s Ken. I’m not a stalker, just love your work with draft prospects.
Very nice. I have a couple questions. Would’ve wrote sooner but had to wait 24 hours. 1st, Are you sure Lee Evans is an UFA? I see Josh Reed and Owens, but not Evans. 2nd, If we get Pennington, have you given up on drafting a QB? 3rd, As a felloow Hawk fan, I know you love to add Hawkeyes in your mocks. Why haven’t you put Bulaga on any of them? He could play Guard unless there’s an injury. Then he could play Tackle.
Keep up the great work. Now that I’m a member here I will be following.
BTW Yesterday on a different blog I brought up the scenario of trading Marshall and our #1 for St. Louis’ #1. We could then get Suh at DE in the 3-4. Somehow we need to get consistant pressure from our DEs. Anyway I noticed it majically turned up in an article by Dave Krieger from the Post. What do you think of this idea?
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by Jeremy Bolander on Jan 25, 2010 8:34 AM MST up reply actions
If You're Digger Phelps
your color-coordinated highlighters are the bomb!
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 25, 2010 8:35 AM MST up reply actions
HAHAHAHA
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by Troy Hufford on Jan 25, 2010 8:39 AM MST up reply actions
Hey Ken, good to hear from you
1. Yes, I am sure Evans is an UFA. He was drafted in 2004, and the RFA thing only applies to those who have been in the league since 2005, but someone correct me if I’m wrong.
2. I am open to drafting or signing a QB. I would honestly love Tebow, but that’s me. I think he’s an impressive individual, and Mcdaniels could work wonders for him.
3. I haven’t included Bulaga because I feel he is best suited for the LT spot, and I feel he would stink of Robert Gallery syndrome if we tried him at guard. Not that he wouldn’t be good, but I just think he’s better as a left tackle.
4. It would be interesting if we made that Marshall trade, but we’d certainly be giving up a lot there. I think they’d have to also add their second round pick if I’m the GM, because Marshall AND a first for a defensive lineman wouldn’t jive well with me for some reason. Interesting that it was picked up by Kreiger after you suggested it.
by Sayre Bedinger on Jan 25, 2010 9:40 AM MST up reply actions
He's not listed on the War Room list (Evans)...
…so maybe he’s under contract. It seems like he got extended recently.
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by PredominantlyOrange on Jan 25, 2010 9:50 AM MST up reply actions
Thanks for welcomes. No I'm not Digger Phelps.
Lee Evans 10/2/2008: Signed a four-year, $37.25 million contract extension through 2012.
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makes sence
I agree….Unless Clausen or Bradford falls to us there’s no way where gonna stay at the 10 or 11 spot..
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You think we'd take one of them?
Just curious.
by Sayre Bedinger on Jan 25, 2010 9:41 AM MST up reply actions
I think Josh would be nuts not to....
I was willing to give Orton every chance to show me he was more than what he was in Chicago…sorry I not buying it.
Orton would make a great backup but he’s not the answer..and btw Cutler wasn’t either imo…
I think either one of these guys would be a great fit in Josh’s system but I would lean towards Cluasen if I was making the pick….
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How do you feel about Oklahoma’s Jermaine Gresham?
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by the new Bradfather on Jan 25, 2010 8:33 AM MST reply actions
I think we'd basically be adding the same player
Though Gresham is a little bigger. I wouldn’t oppose it, but I wouldn’t seek it out either.
by Sayre Bedinger on Jan 25, 2010 9:41 AM MST up reply actions
Pennington???
Pennington can barely throw a deep out and makes Orton look superman. He is a game manager in every sense of the word. I would prefer grooming someone rather than have Pennignton, because he is near the twilight of his career and has all sort of shoulder problems…to an already subpar arm. Since I live in NYC I have seen a lot of him, a few good performances but more mediocre at best.
But he's an upgrade over Chris Simms
Which is the point.
by Sayre Bedinger on Jan 25, 2010 9:41 AM MST up reply actions
No Way
Iupati and Pouncey last that long. If we got both of them, it would be the coup to end all coups. Iupati is so athletic he is being looked at as a potential tackle prospect.

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