Press pitches Brandon Marshall to the Rams trade scenario - Turf Show Times
This comes from the Krieger article about proposed landing spots for Brandon Marshall. Our Rams blog, Turf Show Times, likes the idea.
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This trade proposal is just plain wrong on multiple levels
I can’t claim to know what McDaniels is going to do, but to me at least, paying an absolute fortune AND giving away an elite young receiver to move up and draft ONE guy in the first round just seems stupid.
Good luck with the Redskins Mr. Mike! I'll be watching and cheering for a non-Bronco team for the first time in my life. Well, except when they play the Broncos!
Agreed, but it's Krieger...Nuff said!
-Richee
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Horrible trade
It would be different if it was just Brandon Marshall straight up for the pick, but to throw our 1st round pick is just ludicrous… I want some of what Krieger smoking
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-Richee
-Stick to the fight when you are hardest hit - it's when things seem worst that you must not quit!
by BroncoSense72 on Jan 27, 2010 7:27 AM MST up reply actions
Oh, my...
My only problem with the trade is that it sounds like denver is getting off easy the trade should include marshall, a first, second, and a fourth for our first
Kinda steep, ya don’t think? ;)
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Matt Prater, pre-2009 season: Despised, lambasted, Josh McDaniels is derided for not replacing him.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Jan 27, 2010 6:55 AM MST reply actions
Haha what a joke
First overall picks are more of a liability than a wish list.
Good luck with the Redskins Mr. Mike! I'll be watching and cheering for a non-Bronco team for the first time in my life. Well, except when they play the Broncos!
Exactly.
"All by their heads, he places crowns."
Matt Prater, pre-2009 season: Despised, lambasted, Josh McDaniels is derided for not replacing him.
Matt Prater, post-2009 season: Loved, praised, everone forgets the time when they called Josh McDaniels an idiot for not replacing him.
by Tempestuous Binary on Jan 27, 2010 7:12 AM MST up reply actions
Rams fans
were not represented very well. I am sure that the reasonable fans knew to just leave this article alone and walk away. After all, enough of their dignity has been lost over the course of a very bad season.
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by kybroncomaniac on Jan 27, 2010 7:15 AM MST up reply actions
My favorite
Was the guy who basically suggested that we give them our first and Marshall and get…uh, nothing in return.
I wish trades worked that way. I’ll take Asomugha and the Raiders’ firsts for the next three seasons, please…
by Remember Keith Kartz! on Jan 27, 2010 7:29 AM MST up reply actions
The article goes on to reference
a few previous WR trades (Moss, Williams and Galloway). All three of those men were older at the time. None have ever caught 100 balls.
Moss was a trouble maker. Williams has only had ONE season of 1000+ yards. Galloway has never had 1100 yards. And Marshall’s done that three years in a row.
Marshall is a perpetual pro-bowler who by the age of 25, has already proved he can produce at an absolutely elite level in a new system, with a new QB, and while taking directions from a new HC and OC. The fact that he’s shown an ability to catch 100+ balls in an entirely new system raises his stock emmensely. It proves it’s not a fluke and that he can do that with his new team. It’s security for a team not wanting to look stupid.
Off field issues, whatever. Brandon keeps his mouth shut until March and he should easily fetch the 1 &3 tender, and very possibly more. After all, all of those guys got more.
Good luck with the Redskins Mr. Mike! I'll be watching and cheering for a non-Bronco team for the first time in my life. Well, except when they play the Broncos!
Here is a more likely scenario.
Brandon Marshall is signed by another WR needy team as a RFA and Denver obtains that teams’ 1st and 3rd round draft picks in the 2010 NFL draft.
I know my scenario is not a sexy, but reality rarely is.
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This is true. Maybe the rams will be stupid enough to donate their first and third rounder and this trade will come to fruition.
It wouldn’t make rams fans happy, but I would be happy.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Why has nobody made a live-action game of Chutes and Ladders? I'd be first in line.
by Troy Hufford on Jan 27, 2010 7:42 AM MST up reply actions
I doubt Bowlen would. Paying the 1st overall pick in the 2010 draft may end up being ighest rookie deal ever (and lasting forever) after a new CBA includes a rookie salary cap/wage scale.
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This is true. That's a lot of money and we would be better served to spend it at other positions, too.
Do you think that the Rams could prorate Suh’s contract to take the blunt of the contract this offseason so they can save cap space later? I’m not familiar enough with their management to know if they would put that kind of money up front, uncapped.
No doubt that Suh’s contract will be RIDICULOUS. The guy is a monster and he is going to get paid like one, but the Broncos have no business trading anything to the Rams for the first pick overall. I completely agree with you.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Why has nobody made a live-action game of Chutes and Ladders? I'd be first in line.
by Troy Hufford on Jan 27, 2010 8:24 AM MST up reply actions
I've mentioned this type of front-loading before, also
Sounds like a good idea to me. The owners have said that if the cap goes away this year, they’ll never accept another one. I have no way to really judge the merits or liklihood of that, but I would guess they will all want to plan for the worst and hope for the best. Meaning, front-load any contracts you feel comftorable with so that later cap hits end up being less.
I agree with McGeorge also. Everybody in the league wants to get a rookie cap done. The union doesn’t represent rookies until after they sign, so it’s not really their problem or their constituents – they would rather use that money for the veterans that they represent. And the owners absolutely don’t like the idea of paying $50M for an unproven 30% bust candidate. So yeah, I think the #1 pick this year will go down as the highest paid rookie contract ever. No team is going to want that title or that pick.
Good luck with the Redskins Mr. Mike! I'll be watching and cheering for a non-Bronco team for the first time in my life. Well, except when they play the Broncos!
I believe it was the players that wouldnt accept a cap if it went away.
i’m not sure if you made a grammatical error or I’m wrong. I thought it was the other way around though.
As for the rookies the problem before was that Gene Upshaws agent was Tom Condon. Condon is the mega agent that gets a huge majority of the rookies coming out. The conflict of interest there was astronomical.
I’m not economist and I know it would never be this simple, but if you just put a rookie salary cap and reduce the % to the players this could all be solved. The veterans would still get a larger chunk of the money they are getting now and the owners are getting the protection they require.,
Of course, that would be too easy.
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Think you guys have covered it.
No way does this trade make sense on any level for us. And generally speaking, I’ll take the 10th pick over the 1st pick straight up. Too much guaranteed money to that top spot.
Bowlen
probably doesn’t want to pay the salary for the 1st overall pick anyway and I hope McDaniels trades the 10th or 11th pick down to a pick around 15 in the 1st round for extra 2nd and 3rd round picks. I think we only have 6 picks and I am sure McDaniels will try to get more picks by making one or two trades. But he better not pull anything stupid again like trading the 14th pick in the 1st round for the 37th pick who was Alphonso Smith who has been a total bust so far but I sure would like to be holding 2 of the top 14 picks now instead of just the 10th or 11th pick. The trade for Smith will go down as one of the worst trades in Bronco history-just hope McDaniels doesn’t try to top it this year.
I've admitted that I don't like that trade
and that I think McDaniels wouldn’t do it over either. But if Phonz is still in the league and a starter five years from now, then it won’t…
…go down as one of the worst trades in Bronco history
Good luck with the Redskins Mr. Mike! I'll be watching and cheering for a non-Bronco team for the first time in my life. Well, except when they play the Broncos!
Rams management doesn't have enough foresight to make this happen.
And alas, it will not happen. And that’s good for us.
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Highly unlikely trade.
The only way I see the Broncos doing this is if once they have the #1 pick, they trade it to Seattle for their #6 and #14 first rounders. But I still can’t see it happening. Looks like another screwy off-season is in the works. I just hope we can keep Doom.
"If we cannot find a way, we will make a new one." -Hannibal
by AvalancheRescueDog on Jan 27, 2010 12:48 PM MST reply actions
Of course the Rams fans like this trade
Cause it’s a friggin steal for them. They get an elite WR, probably still will get a top QB prospect at 10, and don’t lose anything. They gain millions of dollars from this move. Not a good idea for the Broncos whatsoever. Suh is not worth it.
I would even consider
Possibly working with Tampa Bay, at the tird pick, who also needs a reciever, and offer Marshall and the 10th pick for the opportunity to draft McCoy from Oaklahoma, because 1. It would be less (albiet not alot but still less) in upfront contract money for the third pick instead of the first, and I believe that McCoy has as much if not more upside than Suh. Just my opionion
But probably not as much upside as Orton
You know, that guy who starts for us?
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