Wink gets the Call - Martindale to lead Broncos defense
by John Bena on Jan 28, 2010 12:13 PM MST
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The Denver Broncos on Thursday promoted Don "Wink" Martindale to defensive coordinator, it was announced. Martindale coached the club's linebackers in 2009 after spending five years in that role with the Oakland Raiders.
"We are excited to name Wink Martindale our defensive coordinator," Head Coach Josh McDaniels said. "Wink is the perfect fit to lead our defense after earning the respect of our players and coaching staff for the job he did this past year working with our linebackers.
"Defensively, we will keep our system consistent in terms of the scheme and will play an aggressive, physical brand of football. Most importantly, we want to continue to improve. Wink holds his players to a very high standard, both on the field and in the meeting room, and he makes them better. He is highly regarded within our organization, and we look forward to him leading our defense."
Before beginning his NFL coaching career with the Raiders in 2004, the 46-year-old Martindale worked as the defensive coordinator at Western Kentucky University in 2003 and helped the Hilltoppers rank sixth in Division I-AA in yards per game allowed. He also worked as a defensive coordinator at Western Illinois University in 1999 after coaching in various defensive roles at the University of Cincinnati (1996-98) and the University of Notre Dame (1994-95).
Martindale spent six years coaching at the high school level in Ohio after beginning his coaching career in 1986 at Defiance College, where he played linebacker and earned a bachelor's degree in business education.
As the Broncos' linebackers coach in 2009, Martindale oversaw a unit that helped Denver rank seventh in the NFL in total yards per game allowed (315.0) and third in the league in passing yards per game allowed (186.3). He helped OLB/DE Elvis Dumervil become the first league sack champion in Broncos history with the fourth-year player posting a club-record 17 sacks to earn Pro Bowl honors in his first season at linebacker.
In addition, ILB D.J. Williams was named a Pro Bowl alternate under Martindale in 2009 after leading the club with 122 tackles that ranked sixth in the AFC according to press box statistics.
An all-state linebacker at Trotwood-Madison High School in Trotwood, Ohio, Martindale was born on May 19, 1963, in Dayton, Ohio. He is married to Laura, and the couple has one daughter (Cassie) and one son (Ty).
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I like it
I really do, I was actually excited when McD hired him as LB coach last year. I have a feeling he will do well because it is his first DC in the NFL.
Coaching thoughts:
Martindale = DC
Barone = O Line
Bills guy = RB
Eric Campbell / Reese Morgan = TE
Rocky Seto = LB
I am on FIRE so far =)
Rocky Seto?
-Richee
-Stick to the fight when you are hardest hit - it's when things seem worst that you must not quit!
by BroncoSense72 on Jan 28, 2010 1:10 PM MST up reply actions
10-4...Thought you were suggesting he was already in...You ARE on fire though!
-Richee
-Stick to the fight when you are hardest hit - it's when things seem worst that you must not quit!
by BroncoSense72 on Jan 28, 2010 1:32 PM MST up reply actions
Good luck Don.
Does this mean we won’t have to change systems and terminology? If so, that would seem like a +.
San Diego Super Chokers – The annual preseason Champs, eternal post season chumps. Stay Classy
by McGeorge on Jan 28, 2010 12:41 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
I believe that will be the case — I have seen some things say that Don is more aggressive than Nolan, so that should also prove interesting to watch
by Todd Jewell on Jan 28, 2010 12:42 PM MST up reply actions
i love aggresive, potential for big plays, and I know that goes both ways. but i love a deffense that attacks
The NFL is all about big plays. Big plays make average teams like Philly into winners.
McDaniels needs more big plays from his O. The dink and dunk approach only works when you have a Super Star QB that consistently makes great passes – again and again and again. Orton is decent, but he is not that guy. So we need to go for bigger plays more often and Orton showed me enough in 2009 to suggest he deserves the chance to take more shots down the field.
San Diego Super Chokers – The annual preseason Champs, eternal post season chumps. Stay Classy
Mc G From what I am reading everything is staying the same
except the expected improvement. That is exciting. Being here in NJ and watching the Jets and the havoc their defense created i wanted us to stay aggressive on defense. i am glad that we will.
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Jan 28, 2010 12:43 PM MST up reply actions
I like that. In in house hire makes sense here. I thought our LBs were darn pretty good in 2009 so Don did a good job in that capacity.
San Diego Super Chokers – The annual preseason Champs, eternal post season chumps. Stay Classy
by McGeorge on Jan 28, 2010 4:49 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
same here
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Jan 28, 2010 6:17 PM MST up reply actions
Let's hope Wink was a sponge in 2009...
And took some good notes while Nolan was here… soaking up as much as he could.
Regarding a new system and terminology don’t we wish we had an answer? I’m sure your questions was rhetorical… as is mine ; )
I’m patient… the answer will reveal itself when it does and in the meantime I’ll be focusing my energies on hoping so!
My roots are in Denver and my branches in Nebraska.
by Blackshirt4Broncos on Jan 28, 2010 2:39 PM MST up reply actions
An answer
Regarding a new system and terminology don’t we wish we had an answer?
McD actually talked about this, and the system and terminology are going to be the same. How it is used will probably change in degree, after the lousy finish.
Don't say rebuild - say reload...
It would seem to me that some consistency in system and terminology would/should be very good. I don’t expect everything to stay the same as 2009, but we’ve done far too much system overhall-ings the past five years. It shows, it doesn’t work and it sucks.
I’m cool with this hire.
San Diego Super Chokers – The annual preseason Champs, eternal post season chumps. Stay Classy
I agree
We also won’t need new kinds of players at each position, and that should be a relief to all of the fans, not to mention the players and coaches.
Don't say rebuild - say reload...
A little more size and talent in the trenches will be nice
When adding that to a good or great scheme, they should go a long way for us.
"All credibility, all good conscience, all evidence of truth come only from the senses." Friedrich Nietzsche
100% agree.
THere is a point where keeping a good coaching staff together consistently becomes like trying to stack hamsters.
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
please jeebus yes
Just having the same guy around two years in a row should be a massive improvement in consistency. I get the feeling the vets were really concerned about that, and that may partly be why they spoke out about wanting Wink to get the nod.
Oh crap, did I just use wink and nod in the same sentence?
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Jan 28, 2010 9:36 PM MST up reply actions
Touche... I should read a little bit more closer...
Before responding to a comment : )
I’m glad to hear the system and terminology will be the same… the cynic in me would like to hear a statement from Wink. If nothing else just to witness how much on the same page McDaniels and Wink appear.
Speculating a little bit, but I do have an impression McDaniels will have more influence on the defensive side of the ball (especially now that Nolan is gone although we do not know what sort of influence McDaniels had on the defense in 2009 so it is hard to compare or speculate).
He did start out with the Patriots by coaching the defensive backs and being a defensive assistant. Weren’t those defenses ranked in the top 10 of the NFL? If so, this would be a good sign at a minimum.
My roots are in Denver and my branches in Nebraska.
by Blackshirt4Broncos on Jan 29, 2010 10:55 PM MST up reply actions
Nolan's old assistants all seem to do better than him anyway...
Because Montana has no professional sports, I gotta support the land of my birth.
Socrates was once executed for 'trolling'.
^Needs explaining: don't call someone asking uncomfortable, slightly antagonistic questions trolls. In all odds they probably just want to learn. It's real easy to differentiate a 'Socratic' post from a trolling one (unless you're a resident of WCG).
^Needs further explaining: I have yet to post anything on WCG, don't worry, I'm not trying to rationalize anything I've done. I've just lurked over there and man, they are the model of post-peloponnesian war Athens.
no terminological change -- is my guess
At least that was the argument I was selling before the announcement.
Minor adjustments could be implemented over time but there’s no reason that I can think of for changing the terms already in use.
I see the changes as being mainly in the area of defensive play calling or having a new DC calling those plays, besides coordinating.
no goats, no glory.
"we will keep our system consistent in terms of the scheme and will play an aggressive, physical brand of football"
Consistency and physical aggression. I like it!! Yes, this one gets an A+
broncorat
"Our word for the week has been accountability...and anyone that showed any indifference to that, we’ll play without them, and we’ll play well anyway."
I agree with that 110%
"All credibility, all good conscience, all evidence of truth come only from the senses." Friedrich Nietzsche
I don’t like it.
Some may say it shouldn’t matter but a man who physically resembles a mountain of blubber doesn’t instill a great deal of confidence in his ability to handle discipline or good judgment. And how can you expect top athletes, especially, to respect someone too weak to even control himself.
tongue-in-cheek?
if not, I refer you to Rex Ryan (whom I tend to dislike) but who has got his guys believing
We live in an age when instant gratification isn't fast enough
I'm not sure how a person's physical size
necessarilly effects his good judgement or ability to handle discipline. But if it does, have you ever seen a skinny bouncer at a bar?
Not to mention the greatest athlete of all time, Babe Ruth was chubby
Other chubby greats:
George Foreman
Charles Barkley (aka the round mound of rebound)
Shaquille O’Neal
Fat Lever (Okay wasn’t really fat)
Craig Stadler
John Daly
Vince Lombardi
Butterbean
LL Cool J (Any Given Sunday)
I miss any others
"No more my bad just make the play"-McJedi
by RockyMountainThunder on Jan 28, 2010 1:45 PM MST up reply actions
Butterbean
Boxer who enjoyed a cult following in the late 90’s but never faced top tier competition. More of a circus act than anything.
"No more my bad just make the play"-McJedi
by RockyMountainThunder on Jan 28, 2010 3:43 PM MST up reply actions
And what about
Andy Reid? Probably the most corpulent HC before Ryan got the Jets job.
So what is your point?
While successful, anyone of the listed chunky fat-asses would have performed better and earned more respect if they had been able to exhibit better self-discipline.
And you know that, how?
By the way, who should I bet on in the Superbowl?
Betting on sports is foolish, -unless
you do it merely for recreation in which case you should wager no more than you earn in half an hour. Who to put it on? I would say the Colts but then again, I have expected the Saints to lose in each of their play-off games.
What does self-discipline have to do with it.
Are you insinuating that chubby people don’t have self-discipline. That would be a mischaracterization. Also what more respect does Babe Ruth have to earn. Best baseball player ever. He was a great Pitcher and a great Hitter.
"No more my bad just make the play"-McJedi
by RockyMountainThunder on Jan 28, 2010 3:46 PM MST up reply actions
I am insinuating nothing
I am telling you flat out: I have never met or heard of a single person who truly WANTS to be fat. That they are anyway demonstrates obvious lack of self-discipline. It really kills me when you see an obese woman with earrings or a corpulent man sporting a moustache. They obviously care what they look like but clearly lack the willpower to do anything about it.
Have you ever been addicted to anything?
I know many obese people that are very self-disciplined but they suffer from an addiction to food. Similar to addiction to alcohol or cigarettes. The only difference is you can cut out alcohol and cigarettes completely from your life and survive. But being addicted to food you have to ingest that which you are addicted to on a daily basis.
People suffer from real diseases such as depression and physical ailments that can compound the problem. I am not making excuses for them but I do have a great deal of compassion. It seems overweight people are the last group it’s PC to make fun of.
"No more my bad just make the play"-McJedi
by RockyMountainThunder on Jan 28, 2010 4:36 PM MST up reply actions
Who is "making fun of them"?
Your addiction analogy doesn’t really hold water. I would argue quitting smoking is harder as you have to abandon it all together unlike eating (and drinking) where you can still indulge in moderation. Your statement “I’m not making excuses for them” is very telling. Apparently you DO feel some level of blame is justified. As for compassion: Being obese must be so very hard both physically and emotionally. I am overflowing with compassion. What I do not have is respect.
Must be fun
Living the perfect life in your ivory tower of judgment. You’re a serious jerk.
by AllBroncsallday on Jan 29, 2010 11:08 AM MST up reply actions
Genetics
Also have something (a lot) to do with it.
by AllBroncsallday on Jan 28, 2010 4:46 PM MST up reply actions
Sure, and some are "big boned"
It’s odd though, there wasn’t a single big boned prisoner in the nazi conzentration camps
You are crossing some serious lines.
This is a football site. Nothing more, nothing less.
Take your hatred for others elsewhere, or keep them to yourself.
"I got a ring, too. It says Love. Think about THAT."
"EVERYBODY LOVE EVERYBODY!!!"
by Zogernaut on Jan 28, 2010 5:27 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
This is not about my post, sir.
First you rip on overweight people, then you claim their weren’t any “big-boned” people in Nazi Concentration camps. All of your posts, and responses, have shown that you have a hatred for others based on their shortcomings.
"I got a ring, too. It says Love. Think about THAT."
"EVERYBODY LOVE EVERYBODY!!!"
Actually this IS about your post
You are criticizing me for criticizing? Hello! Are you there? For me to question the effectiveness of a coach flaunting obvious personal flaws is unacceptable but for you to state that my opinion is based in hatred is perfectly legit? I imagine that if you possess the cerebral acuity required, upon reflection, you must feel more than a little disconcerted right about now regarding your accusations. Don’r worry about it though. I harbor no grudges although every one of my posts were considerably more related to Bronco football than were either of yours.
The assumed and understood premise of your discipline argument
and others is the abundant of food resources available to the subject. Without it, your discipline argument doesn’t hold water. Concentration camps did not, do not and will not have abundant of food resources available to detainees. You just can’t admit AllBroncs nail you there on something that you have not think through, eh?
Words can fool men but Nature doesn't give a damn!
by MadDogExtra on Jan 29, 2010 11:16 AM MST up reply actions
Ummmmm....
How about nose tackles? Who is likely to be the more successful and better performing nose tackle: a “chunky fat-ass” 340 pounder, or a “self-disciplined” 220 pound ball of lean muscle?
- Nick
"We got 'em right where we want 'em!" - Keith Bishop, right before John Elway orchestrated The Drive. 'Nuff said.
buddy,
he was endorsed by many of the players before this hire. your ideas dont match up too much of reality and border on pissing a lot of people off.
"Devin Setoguchi’s haircut has released the dragon" ~Drew Remenda
by Jay Fin Anderson on Jan 28, 2010 7:16 PM MST up reply actions
Weight has nothing to do with it.
A man’s personal lifestyle has no bearing on his skills as a coach. I don’t care who he is.
John Clayton is the head Dean at Fail University (known as F.U. in short)
Formerly known as Calijoefornia
Really?
and the coach wearing women’s clothing will get as much respect from the players as anybody else as long as his coaching skills or top notch, right?
You telling me Ditka in a tutu wouldn't be intimidating?
OK, you’re right.
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
Awww... you made such a good point above.
I think fat guys are plenty intimidating.
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
TMI.....
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Why has nobody made a live-action game of Chutes and Ladders? I'd be first in line.
by kentuckybronco on Jan 28, 2010 5:26 PM MST up reply actions
HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!
This.
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
ok you are scaring me Harv ;-)
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Jan 28, 2010 6:20 PM MST up reply actions
Is it 'cause I'm FAT?!?!
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
LOLOLOL
Don’t get Harv started!
-Richee
-Stick to the fight when you are hardest hit - it's when things seem worst that you must not quit!
by BroncoSense72 on Jan 28, 2010 6:41 PM MST up reply actions
fat hater.
LOL.
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
What We've Learned Today - A Summary
1. Overweight people can easily be divided into two categories: Athletic overweight people and Unathletic overweight people.
2. Overweight people might do even better at things if they weren’t as overweight.
3. Overweight people may or may not be effective in tutus.
4. Hate the Overweight, Love the Overweight person.
by oxmouth on Jan 28, 2010 5:33 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Yes.
And it’s stuff I can NEVER unlearn.
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
I don't get these moments back.
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
not necessarily
And I’m posting this only to repeat one of my favorite comments by one of my favorite professors.
The context was a conversation with his mother in which she said: “At least you have your education, they can never take that away from you.” Professor: “No, it goes away all by itself.”
Frankly, I experience ‘retrograde learning’ far too often, especially at the times when I read certain kinds of posts. Reading the fat commentary in a post somewhere above is one of those times.
no goats, no glory.
by Colinski on Jan 28, 2010 7:34 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
I agree. Sorry to have contributed to the fat commentary,
but I was being sarcastic. Fortunately, my time on MHR is designated as recreational in my own life, and in the process of being cavalier and snarky and (most of the time) pointless, I do get the bonus of some deep insight and education at this site on a regular basis. When I have designated mental time off, and I learn something anyway, I can afford the occasional lapse into fat talk. It’s entertainment.
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
it's a really interesting subject
It’s a shame to see bariatrics reduced to “they have no self control.” It’s also incorrect.
In an effort to help people understand the issue I’ll post THIS.
I don’t expect that the person who would benefit the most from the article will actually read it, but oh well!
no goats, no glory.
I don't know whether the person who would benefit the most read it
but I sure got nothing out of it. Here’s the summary without the words I don’t know and can’t understand deleted:
Childhood obesity has become epidemic over the past 30 years. The First Law is routinely interpreted to imply that weight gain is secondary to increased caloric intake and/or decreased energy expenditure, two behaviors that have been documented during this interval; nonetheless, lifestyle interventions are notoriously ineffective at promoting weight loss. Obesity is characterized by. is usually thought to be secondary to obesity, it can instead be primary, due to dysfunction. Obesity is also a state of resistance, in which defective signal promotes excess energy intake, to maintain normal energy expenditure. Insulin and share a common central signaling pathway, and it seems that insulin functions as an antagonist. Suppressing insulin resistance, with ensuing reduction of caloric intake, increased spontaneous activity, and improved quality of life. also interferes with dopamine clearance in the ventral area and nucleus, promoting increased food reward. Accordingly, the First Law of can be reinterpreted, such that the behaviors of increased caloric intake and decreased energy expenditure are secondary to obligate weight gain. This weight gain is driven by the state, through three mechanisms: energy partitioning into tissue; interference with signal; and interference with extinction of the response to food.
Either way, it is meaningless to me. This I DO know: Obesity is caused by too much food and too little exercise which, when it comes to kids and adolescents, is a direct result of junk food and a sedentary life style. Burning calories by playing sports on the computer doesn’t match the energy invested when playing on a field. Here are the words I cut out
Thermodynamics hyperinsulinemia. hyperinsulinemia autonomic leptin leptin transduction leptin endogenous leptin ameliorates leptin. Hyperinsulinemia dopamine ventral tegmental accumbens, Thermodynamics hyperinsulinemic adipose leptin transduction;
You don’t need to understand them in order to verify the veracity of my statement above. All you need to do is compare a highschool class photo taken today with one taken fifty years ago. In the latter there MIGHT be one fat person except, by todays standard he would be considered normal.
fail
dude, you really suck at science.
I guess that’s not really a surprise.
slams face on keyboard
you’re doing it wrong
Because Montana has no professional sports, I gotta support the land of my birth.
Socrates was once executed for 'trolling'.
^Needs explaining: don't call someone asking uncomfortable, slightly antagonistic questions trolls. In all odds they probably just want to learn. It's real easy to differentiate a 'Socratic' post from a trolling one (unless you're a resident of WCG).
^Needs further explaining: I have yet to post anything on WCG, don't worry, I'm not trying to rationalize anything I've done. I've just lurked over there and man, they are the model of post-peloponnesian war Athens.
You don’t need to understand them in order to verify the veracity of my statement above.
Can you tell this to my Thermodynamics, Fluid Dynamics, Cell and Molecular Biology, Organic Chemistry and Bioengineering lab professors? Can I at least quote you? This would go a long way on my next test. lol
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Why has nobody made a live-action game of Chutes and Ladders? I'd be first in line.
by kentuckybronco on Jan 29, 2010 2:51 PM MST up reply actions
fail
dude. a lot more goes into weight and body shape than ‘self-control’
People are healthier at a stable weight than constantly stressing their bodies on the latest diet—especially if they are predisposed to being overweight. Your Nazi camp comment crossed a line, but here’s the answer: those people were in a ketotic state. Once your body consumes all its fat reserves, it starts consuming muscles. Then it starts consuming internal organs. Ketosis technically starts when it stops getting carbs to convert into glucose and instead has to use its stored materials. Some of those people were probably genetically predisposed to being fat. That doesn’t mean they’re going to remain fat when their body has to consume itself for them to retain some semblance of life.
On to the mustache/earrings. Just because someone cares about their appearance does not mean they care that their appearance conforms to all the social norms that determine the still-ridiculously-subjective term ‘beauty’. Maybe a corpulent person thinks that body shape is the coolest one out there, along with their earrings and mustache. You’re analyzing beauty in terms of sex—kind of like an animal. The human gene pool is diverse enough and big enough that people no longer have to worry about reproduction. That doesn’t mean we don’t, but trying to conform to some societal standard of ‘beauty’ is exactly that. When girls develop anorexia trying to look like the latest Cosmo cover girl, or guys take steroids trying to get the muscles of the latest beefcake to appear on Jersey Shore, the main drive behind that is attracting the opposite sex. For what ultimate purpose? Reproduction. Clearly you share that view of ‘beauty’ or ‘attractiveness’ or what it means to ‘care about one’s appearance’, if subconsciously.
Because Montana has no professional sports, I gotta support the land of my birth.
Socrates was once executed for 'trolling'.
^Needs explaining: don't call someone asking uncomfortable, slightly antagonistic questions trolls. In all odds they probably just want to learn. It's real easy to differentiate a 'Socratic' post from a trolling one (unless you're a resident of WCG).
^Needs further explaining: I have yet to post anything on WCG, don't worry, I'm not trying to rationalize anything I've done. I've just lurked over there and man, they are the model of post-peloponnesian war Athens.
by Drizzt396 on Jan 28, 2010 6:56 PM MST up reply actions 3 recs
ohhh
big “science” and “medically provable” guy.
ha ha, well said, my wife is a dietetics major applying for her RD internship. you sounded a lot like here so i would assume you have some background in nutrition…
warmick really stepped in it and “amazingly” hasn’t responded to this. huh.
"Devin Setoguchi’s haircut has released the dragon" ~Drew Remenda
by Jay Fin Anderson on Jan 28, 2010 7:15 PM MST up reply actions
my mom did nutrition work on mice and ground squirrels for her MA & PhD...
I guess that counts as background :p. It always really pisses me off when people talk about ‘no self control’ with fat people. Like ‘choosing’ to be gay. Getting on a high horse without good science behind you is a good way to incite me to a half-hour-long comment writing session :p
Because Montana has no professional sports, I gotta support the land of my birth.
Socrates was once executed for 'trolling'.
^Needs explaining: don't call someone asking uncomfortable, slightly antagonistic questions trolls. In all odds they probably just want to learn. It's real easy to differentiate a 'Socratic' post from a trolling one (unless you're a resident of WCG).
^Needs further explaining: I have yet to post anything on WCG, don't worry, I'm not trying to rationalize anything I've done. I've just lurked over there and man, they are the model of post-peloponnesian war Athens.
Science knows better, thankfully.
But again I’m done feeding you.
Because Montana has no professional sports, I gotta support the land of my birth.
Socrates was once executed for 'trolling'.
^Needs explaining: don't call someone asking uncomfortable, slightly antagonistic questions trolls. In all odds they probably just want to learn. It's real easy to differentiate a 'Socratic' post from a trolling one (unless you're a resident of WCG).
^Needs further explaining: I have yet to post anything on WCG, don't worry, I'm not trying to rationalize anything I've done. I've just lurked over there and man, they are the model of post-peloponnesian war Athens.
re: Lustig paper
I admit the Lustig paper isn’t light reading but it addresses the behavioral misconception. Here’s a link to a program on UCTV.
Many people won’t find it as interesting as I do, but I wanted to give people the chance to view it.
no goats, no glory.
this sounds suspiciously
like one of Colin Cowherd’s more asinine talking points. There are so many more important tangible character traits to be concerned with. Like can he think, can he scheme, and can he motivate, for starters.
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Jan 28, 2010 9:40 PM MST up reply actions
I like how (above) he continues to use terrible argumentation.
He cropped out all the scientific terms from a summary to…make his point? And then assumed the summary backed up what he assumes is fact about weight gain (it said the opposite).
Sounds exactly like Colin “King of the Strawmen” Cowherd to me.
Because Montana has no professional sports, I gotta support the land of my birth.
Socrates was once executed for 'trolling'.
^Needs explaining: don't call someone asking uncomfortable, slightly antagonistic questions trolls. In all odds they probably just want to learn. It's real easy to differentiate a 'Socratic' post from a trolling one (unless you're a resident of WCG).
^Needs further explaining: I have yet to post anything on WCG, don't worry, I'm not trying to rationalize anything I've done. I've just lurked over there and man, they are the model of post-peloponnesian war Athens.
You appear even more befuddled
by what I actually said than I was about the summation. I made no interpretation about it as it was pretty much incomprehensible to me
clearly
Educate yourself before you make a mockery of yourself. Oh wait…
Because Montana has no professional sports, I gotta support the land of my birth.
Socrates was once executed for 'trolling'.
^Needs explaining: don't call someone asking uncomfortable, slightly antagonistic questions trolls. In all odds they probably just want to learn. It's real easy to differentiate a 'Socratic' post from a trolling one (unless you're a resident of WCG).
^Needs further explaining: I have yet to post anything on WCG, don't worry, I'm not trying to rationalize anything I've done. I've just lurked over there and man, they are the model of post-peloponnesian war Athens.
This is getting personal, you guys. Let's get back to the argument of Cody.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Why has nobody made a live-action game of Chutes and Ladders? I'd be first in line.
by kentuckybronco on Jan 29, 2010 2:52 PM MST up reply actions
Wink, I mean.
Do you accept the hiring, or not?
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Why has nobody made a live-action game of Chutes and Ladders? I'd be first in line.
by kentuckybronco on Jan 29, 2010 3:02 PM MST up reply actions
You mean, besides himself. Right?
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Why has nobody made a live-action game of Chutes and Ladders? I'd be first in line.
by kentuckybronco on Jan 29, 2010 2:52 PM MST up reply actions
Hey, shut up, he's just big-boned.
"All by their heads, he places crowns."
Matt Prater, pre-2009 season: Despised, lambasted, Josh McDaniels is derided for not replacing him.
Matt Prater, post-2009 season: Loved, praised, everone forgets the time when they called Josh McDaniels an idiot for not replacing him.
by Tempestuous Binary on Jan 28, 2010 11:40 PM MST up reply actions
in the skull
oh, and Binary if you read this, dunno if you’ve heard of Obscura (imagine Cynic+Death+Necrophagist) but they’re touring the US and I get to see ’em!
Just got all metal-nerd excited there for a second, sorry. For some reason I don’t think warmick has the capacity to understand any of those bands…
Because Montana has no professional sports, I gotta support the land of my birth.
Socrates was once executed for 'trolling'.
^Needs explaining: don't call someone asking uncomfortable, slightly antagonistic questions trolls. In all odds they probably just want to learn. It's real easy to differentiate a 'Socratic' post from a trolling one (unless you're a resident of WCG).
^Needs further explaining: I have yet to post anything on WCG, don't worry, I'm not trying to rationalize anything I've done. I've just lurked over there and man, they are the model of post-peloponnesian war Athens.
Wow!
I have heard of them, and count me in as supremely jealous! I’ve managed to listen to their new album a few times, but I really need to get my hands on it. It’s really good.
How big is the venue?
Lol, I know what you mean. :p
"All by their heads, he places crowns."
Matt Prater, pre-2009 season: Despised, lambasted, Josh McDaniels is derided for not replacing him.
Matt Prater, post-2009 season: Loved, praised, everone forgets the time when they called Josh McDaniels an idiot for not replacing him.
by Tempestuous Binary on Jan 30, 2010 5:45 AM MST up reply actions
Is this a joke?
because if its not you are coming across as rather bigoted.
1) Mark Mangino – pretty successful program at Kansas
2) Kung Fu Panda – short, fat and spry as hell (Pablo Sandoval for the non baseball people )
I think I’d rather have a fat successful coach than be a skinny fathead.
IMO
Because it's become tiresome
say what you want about John Madden
he’s a HOFer and he’s no lightweight.
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Jan 29, 2010 6:46 PM MST up reply actions
Yoo-Hoo...Great News...I'm All In!
-Richee
-Stick to the fight when you are hardest hit - it's when things seem worst that you must not quit!
Good hire
I hear he’s a great LB coach, and some of the players seem to like and/or respect him. now we just need a good replacement linebacker coach….
by AOB (Agent Orange & Blue) on Jan 28, 2010 1:08 PM MST reply actions
From the booth or from the sideline???
I know that there are pros and cons to both but does anybody know, or have thoughts as to where he will coach from?
Personally, I would like to see him on the sideline, close to and better interaction with his players.
-Richee
-Stick to the fight when you are hardest hit - it's when things seem worst that you must not quit!
I like the coordinators in the booth
So they can tell the HC what is going on and the position coaches can work with the players on the sideline.
I can see that logic as well...
-Richee
-Stick to the fight when you are hardest hit - it's when things seem worst that you must not quit!
by BroncoSense72 on Jan 28, 2010 4:30 PM MST up reply actions
My name is Sadaraine and I approve this message
Good to have this consistency in the defense. I’ll be cheering for Wink and our guys on the D this year for sure.
"Precipitation, which side are you on?
Are you on the rise? Are you falling down?
Let me know, Come on let's go, yeah
Got some if you need it!" -EV
same here my friend
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Jan 28, 2010 3:17 PM MST up reply actions
Your name is Sadaraine too!!!?
:P
"Precipitation, which side are you on?
Are you on the rise? Are you falling down?
Let me know, Come on let's go, yeah
Got some if you need it!" -EV
by sadaraine on Jan 28, 2010 3:34 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
hmmmm let me think about that ;-)
No its not but I approve of this meesage
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Jan 28, 2010 6:22 PM MST up reply actions
With all due respect...
The title of this post ought to be “Wink gets the Nod.” Just seems to right not to do.
by troy payne on Jan 28, 2010 2:18 PM MST reply actions 3 recs
to a blind horse?
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Jan 28, 2010 3:17 PM MST up reply actions
Right, a nod is as good as a wink to a blind horse... = )
Real Power, comes with the realization that One cannot change the Moment;
only ones perception of it: Atitude! JQM
Damn!!!
I came here specifically to say the title of this article should be “Wink Gets The Nod” well Played Troy
"It's okay to eat fish, 'cause they don't have any feelings" - Kurt Kobain
by JChase8410 on Jan 28, 2010 3:43 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
LOL ROFLMAO!!!!
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
Does anyone else find it amusing that our new DC
shares a name made famous by a game show host (Wink Martindale of Tic-Tac-Dough)?
We live in an age when instant gratification isn't fast enough
I was assuming the nickname was actually a reference to
the game show host, no? HIs real name is Don, and my guess is the nickname arrived during the game show host’s heyday. Otherwise it is very odd!
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants country, and damned proud of it.
I thought I saw somewhere that "Wink" came from his father, who was also known as "Wink"
"I got a ring, too. It says Love. Think about THAT."
"EVERYBODY LOVE EVERYBODY!!!"
I heard he is actually related to Wink form the game show
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Jan 28, 2010 3:18 PM MST up reply actions
I heard
He IS Wink from the game show!! ;)
by AllBroncsallday on Jan 28, 2010 4:47 PM MST up reply actions
I heard his Defenses killed Wink form the game show....
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
So when do the Broncos implement the
Tic-Tac-Dough defense?
Late in the 2009 season they used the Tic-Tac-D’oh! defense.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants country, and damned proud of it.
hahahaha
That’s bad. Awesomely bad.
by AllBroncsallday on Jan 29, 2010 11:04 AM MST up reply actions
I hope this works out
How did the defenses do when he coached them in College?
The best part about this, though, is that McD listened to his players who, apparently, lobbied for this guy. Plus it proves that not everyone hates and can’t work with McD.
It takes neither courage nor intelligence to cheer for a team only when that team wins. The true test of a fan's mettle is the same as it is for a player: Were you there when you were needed?
aka Solace
According to one source I read
In 2003 at W. Kentucky his defense ranked 6th in Div. 1-AA. Kind of hard to truly assess. Lot of factors go into being a successful defensive coordinator. Greg Robinson had a lot of success here but hasn’t really been able to do so anywhere else.
I do know this. He coached some really good LB with the Raiders and helped invigorate A. Davis’ career here.
"No more my bad just make the play"-McJedi
by RockyMountainThunder on Jan 28, 2010 2:39 PM MST up reply actions
So is the sub headline, Piss on Pees
"Me fail english, that unpossible" - Ralph Wiggum
"Duffman is thrusting in the direction of the problem" - Duffman
"Good, bad, I'm the guy with the gun" - Ash from Army of Darkness
"H.I., you're young and you got your health, what you want with a job?" - Evelle from Raising Arizona
"It happens sometimes. People just explode. Natural causes." - Agent Rogersz from Repoman
pees went to the Ravens awhile ago...
Quit drinking the Kool-Aid and start drinking the good stuff, and everything is always alright.
by Chuck "DeadDrunk" Breedlove on Jan 28, 2010 3:09 PM MST up reply actions
I hope he does a good job. Consistency is ALWAYS good when talking about systems.
But no one can be a good coach without talent around them. We need to try to, once again, raise the level of talent on both sides of the ball.
I can't resist
Did they sign him to a 1 year contract?
Sorry.
"No more my bad just make the play"-McJedi
by RockyMountainThunder on Jan 28, 2010 3:47 PM MST reply actions
ummmmm....
….who?
- Nick
"We got 'em right where we want 'em!" - Keith Bishop, right before John Elway orchestrated The Drive. 'Nuff said.
Fat guys!!!
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
hahahhahhahhahahhahah
- Nick
"We got 'em right where we want 'em!" - Keith Bishop, right before John Elway orchestrated The Drive. 'Nuff said.
sorry ncm...
if you have to ask, you didn’t make it. you can try again in 3 days. email all application fees of $50 to oxmouth.
LOL. Opportunist.
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
Oh, Harv. You're just jealous you didn't think of it first. lol
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Why has nobody made a live-action game of Chutes and Ladders? I'd be first in line.
by kentuckybronco on Jan 28, 2010 6:06 PM MST up reply actions
I'm too fat and lazy to think of it first.
You know how worthless fat people are. It’s because they are fat. No one takes them seriously.
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
by HarvJNep2n on Jan 28, 2010 6:08 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
But you're Phat.
There’s a difference.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Why has nobody made a live-action game of Chutes and Ladders? I'd be first in line.
by kentuckybronco on Jan 28, 2010 6:10 PM MST up reply actions
Wait, are we talking Body Mass Index or weight?
What constitutes “fat?” For instance, Philip Rivers’ fat face ticks me off. BDawk’s fat presence is badass.
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
Phat is the equivalent of awesome.
The Ph makes it cool.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Why has nobody made a live-action game of Chutes and Ladders? I'd be first in line.
by kentuckybronco on Jan 28, 2010 6:16 PM MST up reply actions
THen we should spell it
Filip Rivers, and Alphonso SMith is de facto cool. And Josh Mother Ephin McDaniels rocks. And Denver Broncos Phootball is awesome.
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
Exactly.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Why has nobody made a live-action game of Chutes and Ladders? I'd be first in line.
by kentuckybronco on Jan 28, 2010 6:39 PM MST up reply actions
BMI
is a terrible measure of weight.
Because Montana has no professional sports, I gotta support the land of my birth.
Socrates was once executed for 'trolling'.
^Needs explaining: don't call someone asking uncomfortable, slightly antagonistic questions trolls. In all odds they probably just want to learn. It's real easy to differentiate a 'Socratic' post from a trolling one (unless you're a resident of WCG).
^Needs further explaining: I have yet to post anything on WCG, don't worry, I'm not trying to rationalize anything I've done. I've just lurked over there and man, they are the model of post-peloponnesian war Athens.
Topic for "Stats that Don't Lie"?
- Nick
"We got 'em right where we want 'em!" - Keith Bishop, right before John Elway orchestrated The Drive. 'Nuff said.
You have no self control, you capitalist fat cat. LOL
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
Damn!
I don’t even know what it is, but I’m suddenly compelled to send you money… Right after I send my bank account number to someone in Nigeria. Apparently a member of royalty just died in a car crash, and I’m his next living relative! Who knew??? ;-)
- Nick
"We got 'em right where we want 'em!" - Keith Bishop, right before John Elway orchestrated The Drive. 'Nuff said.
that's SO weird!
the check cashing store i just set up actually transfers your nigeria money for FREE and at a VERY low interest rate…
by oxmouth on Jan 28, 2010 7:15 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
hey MHR's girl
How are you doing! and who are these true fans you are talking about?
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Jan 28, 2010 6:23 PM MST up reply actions
OMG - we have a Sean Payton disciple with the damn visor.
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
how bout this....
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
Or this.... from horviltiki.com
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
Are those the same person?
I can slightly see the resemblance.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Why has nobody made a live-action game of Chutes and Ladders? I'd be first in line.
by kentuckybronco on Jan 28, 2010 5:07 PM MST up reply actions
Former ate latter?
If so, I’d say warick has a point with the self-control argument.
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
I highly doubt it.
The hair gel wouldn’t digest, very well.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Why has nobody made a live-action game of Chutes and Ladders? I'd be first in line.
by kentuckybronco on Jan 28, 2010 5:13 PM MST up reply actions
LMAO....
Plus who wants to pick out all those teeth….. LOL
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
You sure they aren't dentures? They might be easier to take out than you'd think.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Why has nobody made a live-action game of Chutes and Ladders? I'd be first in line.
by kentuckybronco on Jan 28, 2010 5:15 PM MST up reply actions
No. THe network had those babies permanently installed.
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
hahaha. Smart move on their part.
Just lay some white paint on them bad boys and you’re ready to go.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Why has nobody made a live-action game of Chutes and Ladders? I'd be first in line.
by kentuckybronco on Jan 28, 2010 5:28 PM MST up reply actions
even nolan looks intimidated by him..
.. i like it!
We got aggressive last yet but lacked tough down the stretch.. if we can fix that this year.. our D will be fun to watch.. especially if our secondary has the kind of season that it had last year!
Caption contest for this picture.
“Boy, you been livin in Californy too long. What they feed you out there, hemp and seaweed?
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
"could you please go and stand over there...
… your totally blocking my sun and i just have to get this tan sorted for miami!"
I feel kinda bad that I ruin all the serious posts with this
pointless drivel. But it’s fun for me, and you guys are funny.
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
My entire fanpost was pointless drivel. Feel free to ruin that one. hahaha jk
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Why has nobody made a live-action game of Chutes and Ladders? I'd be first in line.
by kentuckybronco on Jan 28, 2010 5:29 PM MST up reply actions
Sweet. I'm there.
Harvey J. Neptune – rotting minds since 2008
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
no harv, we love you for it
Because Montana has no professional sports, I gotta support the land of my birth.
Socrates was once executed for 'trolling'.
^Needs explaining: don't call someone asking uncomfortable, slightly antagonistic questions trolls. In all odds they probably just want to learn. It's real easy to differentiate a 'Socratic' post from a trolling one (unless you're a resident of WCG).
^Needs further explaining: I have yet to post anything on WCG, don't worry, I'm not trying to rationalize anything I've done. I've just lurked over there and man, they are the model of post-peloponnesian war Athens.
.....tear
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
Glad he is on board as the DC.
My guess is that he will continue what Nolan has began and enlarge on it. I expect more of the attacking defense we saw last year plus some. Give him a little time, he’ll be a good one.
Harv, I enjoyed your pic with Wink and Nolan. I used to think Nolan was a big guy.
Just WInk and Nod
and enjoy the magnificence that Martindale will provide. Generally, McDaniels does make wise decisions and I think this is another one. Now it’s time to enjoy some good NBA action. Go Mavs against the Suns!
Brad James
by the new Bradfather on Jan 28, 2010 5:44 PM MST reply actions
And hope we don't get some guy we can call Blink.
-Harvey J. Neptune
"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
Nobody get too close to Harv tonight
Because he is ON FIRE!!!!
- Nick
"We got 'em right where we want 'em!" - Keith Bishop, right before John Elway orchestrated The Drive. 'Nuff said.
Best of luck to you coach Wink!
I heard he is potentially more aggressive than Nolan was. Here’s hoping for a 2010 defensive comprised of CHAOS!
"All credibility, all good conscience, all evidence of truth come only from the senses." Friedrich Nietzsche
Good pick
Anytime you get endorsed by Brian Dawkins you must be doing something right. So I’m on board with this one.
Welp, this just Peeses me off
I was wrong that we would hire Pees. I’m disappointed that McDaniels was unwilling to allow Bronco fans the pleasure of neverending Pees puns.
Although Wink Martindale does offer some fun.
Because it's become tiresome
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