Denver Broncos News: Horse Tracks - 10/13/10
by John Bena on Oct 13, 2010 7:44 AM MDT
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Bailey, Revis share island's corner room - The Denver Post
It can be a lonely place on the football field, eye to eye with some of the NFL's best athletes, the potential of a prime-time, did-you-see-that highlight always hanging over your head.
Krieger: Broncos of 2008, 2010 are similar - The Denver Post
So Josh McDaniels overhauls the Broncos' roster, prompting 21 months of nonstop debate between fans of the old and new, only to produce an offense with exactly the same problem as the one it replaced:
Broncos taking positive approach - The Denver Post
For a team coming off a 31-17 loss and knowing it would be playing its next game, against the AFC East-leading New York Jets, without three of its usual defensive starters, the Broncos are choosing the glass half-full approach.
Q&A: Nose tackle Jamal Williams gets a B-plus grade so far - The Denver Post
Q: What is the first-quarter grade for nose tackle Jamal Williams? It's easy to miss him while watching the Broncos, which is remarkable for someone pushing 350 pounds. But I have been trying to pay attention, and it looks like Williams is doing his job by eating double-team blocks and still pushing toward the pocket. I have noticed that he has forced offensive penalties when he has gotten 7 or 8 yards into the backfield.
Denver Broncos eyeing ... The Jets - The Denver Post
For the record: Jets — 4-1, first place in AFC East; Broncos — 2-3, three- way tie for second place in AFC West.
Analysis: Jets will blitz Broncos getting off the bus - The Denver Post
But the Jets rush the passer almost unlike any other team in the NFL, and the Broncos' offensive front, which has already been challenged for much of the season, will be challenged in an entirely different way in Sunday's game.
Elway among 65 investors in Mueller securities fraud case - The Denver Post
Former Denver Broncos quarterback John Elway is among 65 investors who lost as much as $71 million with former hedge-fund manager Sean Mueller of Cherry Hills Village, according to documents released today.
Report: Ex-sports agent says he paid college football players, including Ryan Leaf, Jamir Miller, Chris Mims - ESPN
A former sports agent told Sports Illustrated he paid college football players early in his career, and several of them confirmed it to the magazine.
NFL Power Rankings Week 6 - National Football League - ESPN
The Baltimore Ravens have collected impressive pelts this season, but they remain in the executive suite's waiting room in the latest ESPN.com NFL Power Rankings.
Report: Chicago Bears' Jay Cutler back; Todd Collins now No. 3 - ESPN Chicago
The Chicago Bears will try to restore order to their quarterback situation heading into Sunday's game against the Seattle Seahawks.
New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft: CBA solution in 2010 realistic - ESPN
For now, optimism is the approach for NFL owners in negotiations with the players on a new collective bargaining agreement.
Jenn Sterger wants right result, not fastest result, to Brett Favre investigation - ESPN
NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell says there's no timetable for wrapping up an investigation of an Internet report that said Minnesota Vikings quarterback Brett Favre sent racy text messages and lewd photos to a former New York Jets game hostess.
Darrelle Revis of New York Jets has 'added swelling' in hamstring, coach Rex Ryan says - ESPN New York
The New York Jets cornerback said his leg was "very sore" after the team's victory over the Minnesota Vikings on Monday night. Coach Rex Ryan was not sure Tuesday if Revis will play against Denver on Sunday.
Adam Jones of Cincinnati Bengals gets apology from city police chief - ESPN
Cincinnati's police chief is apologizing to Cincinnati Bengals cornerback Adam "Pacman" Jones, who was questioned by officers on Sunday.
New England patriots offensive lineman Nick Kaczur placed on season-ending IR - ESPN Boston
Veteran offensive lineman Nick Kaczur was placed on season-ending injured reserve Tuesday, opening up a roster spot for the Patriots' acquisition of receiver Deion Branch.
NFL.com news: Doctor is in to prescribe remedies for underachieving teams
A lot of teams that got preseason hype aren't living up to the billing. Granted, they have performed below expectations, but no team is out of the playoff hunt -- even if they sit at 0-5. Just ask 49ers owner and president Jed York, who still expects his team to win the NFC West. The Cardinals are three games ahead of the Niners with 11 to play, but a comeback is not unprecedented. At the end of six weeks last year, the Chargers were four games behind the Broncos, and San Diego still won the AFC West.
NFL.com news: TO admits breaking NFL Tweet rule, says it was for good cause
Terrell Owens acknowledged Tuesday night that he violated the NFL's rules against Tweeting shortly before games by sending one out an hour before a loss to Tampa Bay.
NFL.com news: Colts' Irsay on Manning's contract: 'We've had discussions'
Indianapolis Colts owner Jim Irsay, attending the NFL Fall League Meeting in Chicago on Tuesday, declined to provide a substantive update on contract extension talks with his star quarterback, Peyton Manning.
NFL.com news: Week 5 awards watch: MVP race providing unlikely candidates
In a season where the league has been as topsy-turvy as ever, it has become increasingly difficult to distinguish candidates for the NFL's top individual honor.
NFL.com news: Distractions or not, Favre struggling to carry Vikings
It would be easy to say that Brett Favre can't do it any more -- for a lot of reasons.
What do we have here? | National Football Post
Everybody's got at least 4 games in the bucket so let's take a spin around the NFL at the quarter pole. Today, the AFC.
Is the best football in the AFC? | National Football Post
After watching the Jets play on Monday night and posting our weekly NFP Power Rankings yesterday, I started to think about the NFL landscape after five weeks of the 2010 season. The question I have—and one that I think is good for discussion—is simple: is the AFC clearly the best football in the NFL?
Agent Josh Luchs tells all for SI | National Football Post
In 1990, I had a rookie RB drafted by the Chargers, named Chris Samuels from the University of Texas. Chris quickly became the talk of camp and it was evident he was going to make the team as a returner and 3rd down back.
Packers bring in seven for workouts | National Football Post
Perhaps bracing for the reality that linebacker Nick Barnett will be out for many weeks, of not the remainder of the season, the Green Bay Packers brought five linebackers in for tryouts on Tuesday.
Source: Giants tried out Justin Fargas | National Football Post
The New York Giants auditioned veteran running back Justin Fargas today, according to a league source with knowledge of the situation.
Titans worked out David Veikune, Bobby McCray | National Football Post
One week after trying out for the Miami Dolphins, former Cleveland Browns second-round linebacker David Veikune tried out for the Tennessee Titans today.
Does personal conduct policy apply to Favre? - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
The defining policy of Roger Goodell’s tenure so far as NFL commissioner could be in serious danger of falling apart as quickly as it takes Brett Favre(notes) to throw another interception.
Playoff berth may not be enough for Singletary - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
However, if the 49ers should pull off a miracle comeback this season, it probably won’t save coach Mike Singletary’s job. According to a team source, Singletary will need to do some extraordinary things over the final 11 games to have any hope of coming back as coach. That extraordinary thing would be something like winning all of the remaining games and even a playoff contest or two.
Saints sign RB Julius Jones, release K John Carney - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
The New Orleans Saints decided they needed a new running back more than two field goal kickers.
Improving Giants, falling Texans, more Snap Judgments - Don Banks - SI.com
Two short weeks. That's about all it takes in today's NFL to completely flip the script. Two weeks ago, the New York Giants looked like an undisciplined disaster in a penalty-strewn loss at home to the Tennessee Titans, and the buzzards were already starting to circle the head of New York's embattled coach, Tom Coughlin. Some observers even had Bill Cowher measuring the drapes in Coughlin office, and the opinions of one Tiki Barber were again in demand.
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Sad news...
Dierdorf will be calling the game Sunday.
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by Troy Hufford on Oct 13, 2010 8:25 PM MDT up reply actions
Decent article by Krieger today.
Although, John pretty much said the same thing on MHR radio about three weeks ago…
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I was thinking the same thing…
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by MrFNSunshine on Oct 13, 2010 1:01 PM MDT up reply actions
problems with the comparison between 08 and now
My first thought upon hearing the comparison was that — although true — it doesn’t say much. A normal distribution (standard normal or Gaussian, or Laplacian if you’re French) of wins and losses would have most team near the middle, so this could be said of many, many different teams that varied in significant respects.
The best thing that one can do is look at the two rosters:
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/den/2008_roster.htm
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/den/2010_roster.htm
I don’t want to and won’t get into a long post but there are a great number of changes that have occurred since 2008, which itself is significant since we rebuilt without the decline that often goes with rebuilding. Climbing out of a hole (or expected one that didn’t occur) and reaching the same level you passed when falling in is different than never falling in, and it says nothing of the journey between. Also, sometimes it takes a lot of running just to stand still. I saw a huge gaping hole awaiting us and I don’t dismiss as insignificant the fact that we avoided falling in to something that large.
I wish I could isolate a single important area where 2008 and 2010 differ but the first comment that comes to mind is scary versus well constructed. Being in the midst of the hardest stretch of this season may have blinded us somewhat to the fact that the current team has a ton of young upcoming talent (which hurts record-wise, too) while the 2008 team was in danger of having its wheels fall off, with some notable exceptions, such as the OL. 2008’s team represents a cataclysm waiting to happen, one we narrowly missed.
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Fair Comment
Well, if the parallels continue, the Broncs will beat the Jets on Sunday.
Stranger things have happened.
by Baltimore Bronco on Oct 13, 2010 8:54 AM MDT up reply actions
And our running game will put up 170 yards and a few TDs. If we are talking 2008.
The only thing that reminds me of the 2008 team is the hallow yards. Cutler was king of picking up hallow yards (sans points) and it seems like Orton is next in line to this thrown.
Sort of related topic (since I think the problem with lack of points is a lack of a running game to slam the ball into the endzone) – Was resigning Kuper a mistake?
Josh McDaniel's Broncos are 10 - 11. He holds a .476 winning percentage. Updated weekly.
In the short term you’d have to say no. Who would be our RG? Daniels at LG and Hoch at RG?
Long term, who knows.
We tried to get that veteran C from Cleveland (forgot his name) but couldn’t come to terms. So we were relying on the draft to fill in the middle of the line which was risky. After Clady got injured, I was surprised McDaniels didn’t try to get another veteran for insurance purposes. Maybe he tried but there were none available.
Let’s hope Walton grows and works out so next season we are really just looking for one player (LG) and another back-up tackle (unless Beadles is that guy already).
I wouldn't quite say the yards Cutler was gaining were holy and sacred.
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Bears at #7? Are they freakin’ kidding??!! They must be on some strong stuff over there in CT. What a joke!
by Gristle McThornbody on Oct 13, 2010 9:13 AM MDT reply actions
Beating Dallas doesn’t seem impressive now. Carolia and Detroit are a combined 1-9.
The Green Bay win was a good one and Peppers have been awesome for them.
4-1 is what it is, but they won’t finish the season 12-4. That is a .500 football team playing in a weaker NFC North than most predicted. The Vikings are not a good team and Green Bay is also overrated as a legit SB threat.
Funny how things change from the preseason power rankings.
Josh McDaniel's Broncos are 10 - 11. He holds a .476 winning percentage. Updated weekly.
Yeah, I guess it's mainly a reflection of their record.
But that Chicago O Line is worse than Denver’s. And that’s saying something.
by Gristle McThornbody on Oct 13, 2010 9:30 AM MDT up reply actions
Their O-line is terrible.
I’m so disappointed in our O-line, it makes me sad to see your comparison.
I don’t think there is a worse run blocking O-line in the NFL than ours. Clady, Kuper and Harris were a huge part of the 2008 O-line that was so very strong. It doesn’t add up, which is why I say it’s the coaching.
McD isn’t pushing other injured Broncos like Moreno, Goodman or Larson to be out there playing injured or hurt. I don’t buy that Harris, Clady and Kuper are all paying at 70% because they are hurt. That doesn’t pass the logic test.
Josh McDaniel's Broncos are 10 - 11. He holds a .476 winning percentage. Updated weekly.
I dunno
Cutler threw like 10 interceptions in the game against Green Bay and 9 of them were called back on a penalty.
Why does Madden suck at ranking the Broncos so much?
It’s was only 8 INTs and most of them were dropped. A good and correct PI call was only responsible for 2 of those 8 INTs.
Josh McDaniel's Broncos are 10 - 11. He holds a .476 winning percentage. Updated weekly.
GB...
Might be slightly overhyped and overrated, but they are as wounded as we are, maybe more.
1) Jermichael Finely (currently best receiving TE in the league in 2010) IR
2) Ryan Grant (starting RB) IR
3) Morgan Burnett (starting or backup S) out indefinitely
4) Nick Barnette (starting ILB) out indefinitely
5) some other LB Chiller
6) injuries at both tackle positions
7) Rodgers may miss this week
8) Clay Matthews is out for a few weeks with a hammy
9) and more, I’m sure…
Detroit losing Stafford has cost them a few games as well.
Eagles, Colts and Ravens have all been hit hard by injuries.
The Chargers are missing four LBs, Jackson, McNeill and their LG.
Injuries are not a good excuse for any team because all teams have them.
To McD’s credit, he doesn’t go there. It’s one of the things I like most about him.
Josh McDaniel's Broncos are 10 - 11. He holds a .476 winning percentage. Updated weekly.
Agreed
the Rams have lost 3 (!) starting wide receivers for the season with serious injuries. (to add to that running list)
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Agreed
I don’t think a good coach worth his salt would ever use injuries as an excuse.
And definitely injuries are a part of this game, as well as backups rising up to the occasion..
But I’m just saying you’d be hard-pressed to find another team as hard-hit as they have been. With as much lost PT as the Packers have had, it does take a toll on how well they have played so far this season.
For me, that makes me hesitate to call them over-rated as of now.
Do you think GB is a legit SB contender?
Maybe so in the always weaker NFC.
Josh McDaniel's Broncos are 10 - 11. He holds a .476 winning percentage. Updated weekly.
Well, hard to say for sure, but I think they certainly have a shot!
As McJay says below, there are “no dominant teams, nor total dogs” this year. Just a whole lot of parity (or mediocrity!?)…
It seems like there are a lot of mediocre teams this year. No really dominate teams and no total dogs (except BUF).
There are three great defenses (BAL, NYJ and PIT) but outside of that, I’m not seeing anything great. We could be set-up for a wild end with a lot of teams tied to make the playoffs at 9-7.
Merriman?
Will, or should, the Broncos have interest in Shawn Merriman when he’s healthy?
From Adam Schefter: Once Merriman is healthy, which could be in a couple weeks, Chargers must release him and he is free to sign with another team this season.
Broncos didn’t get, or maybe weren’t interested in, Antwan Barnes. They may not want Merriman around either, his personality may not mesh with Broncos philosophy, but gosh, LB depth would be nice.
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Broncos sign LB Lee Robinson to practice squad
as per Denver Post and other sources on Twitter.
He’s the Alcorn State player, pretty talented, who has yet to stick with a team. Broncos signed him undrafted a year ago, was recently cut by Bucs.
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As much as I've hated Merriman
And although he seems to be at the twilight of his career, makes me wonder if a change of scenery would light a fire in him. Especially if he gets to play a team that lets him go twice a year. Could be wrong
Dumervil backs Wichard, one of the agents mentioned in the SI piece
http://blogs.denverpost.com/broncos/2010/10/13/dumervil-backs-agent-wichard/5499/
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lets restart!
I’m sorry guys but am I the only one that thinks we should start this thing over on Defense and just clean house? That means champ and d.j. too! I mean champ is still the best cb in the league no matter what people say but what good is he when the rest of the D is filled with a bunch of either too young or too old softies! Minus Bdawk of course. Its just getting really old and sad seeing the same thing every game! Champ playing lightsout and the rest of the D stinking up the field! Our offense is legit and all we need is at least a half decent defense to take this division and make some noise in the playoffs.
by chap on Oct 13, 2010 3:05 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
How
Did you get that drunk (or whatever it may be) and still type in a semblance of an understandable manner at 4 in the afternoon? You must be a musician. ( =
But seriously, are you just spouting stuff to see what kind of reaction you get? Silly rabbit.
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by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Oct 13, 2010 4:56 PM MDT up reply actions
Yeah I think you are
You can’t just “clean house” and viola, you’ve got a top 5 D. Just doesn’t work that way- it’s a process of building a good. On BOTH sides of the ball- you don’t just snap your fingers and it’s done.
You’d “clean house” on the D, meanwhile the O would languish waiting for the D to catch up. This would be progress?
I think not.
by AllBroncsallday on Oct 13, 2010 5:18 PM MDT up reply actions
hahaha
Ok maybe frustrations getting the best of me. But it seems like the offense has been waiting 4yrs minus the 1st half of last year for this D to get going. I mean we’ve changed the coaching on. D multiple times we’ve changed the schemes multiple times and we’ve changed old veteran after old veteran multiple times and we always get the same result….a mediocre Defense! I’m honestly not trying to be all negative but enough is enough with all this losing! We’re not the Raiders dammit we shouldn’t be saying maybe next year in OCTOBER!!!
by chap on Oct 13, 2010 6:16 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
