Denver Broncos News: Horse Tracks - 10/26/10
by John Bena on Oct 26, 2010 4:05 AM MDT
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Broncos Mailbag: Fiasco at Invesco fuels fury for fans - The Denver Post
Are you kidding me? Please tell me this was some cynical joke that Josh McDaniels played on the Broncos. Regardless of my enjoyment when rooting for the Broncos, can you imagine the chagrin and the waste of money my boys and I went through at Buffalo Wild Wings on Sunday watching this debacle? Please end this now. The defense would give up 50 to Auburn. -- Bosse, Nevada
Broncos looking for ID - The Denver Post
As the Broncos embark on their weirdest week of the year, players and coaches also are faced with a serious question:
Winning means never having to say you're sorry - The Denver Post
The Broncos reached the point of apology Sunday, at least for those who took the time to sift through the rubble of a 59-14 loss to the Raiders, tossing a few "sorrys" to the fans and Broncos owner Pat Bowlen along the way.
Ellis joins Broncos owner Bowlen in refusing to comment after giant defeat - The Denver Post
Broncos owner Pat Bowlen and his right-hand man, Joe Ellis, are well aware of the uproar stirring from the team's fan base after the 59-14 pasting Denver received Sunday from the rival Oakland Raiders.
How many reasons for inconsistent defense? "A bunch" - The Denver Post
So if it's not Martindale, and it wasn't Mike Nolan, and it wasn't Bob Slowik or Jim Bates or Larry Coyer, then what is it?
Analysis: If there's one word that describes the Broncos, it's "fragile" - The Denver Post
Though he was a player on his way out the door, running back LaMont Jordan offered a glimpse into some of the issues Broncos coach Josh McDaniels faced last season when a 6-0 start turned into that 2-8 limp down the stretch.
Q&A: Broncos' zone blocking hasn't disappeared, but rushing success has - The Denver Post
Q: Do the Broncos regret their decision to scrap the zone-blocking schemes of Mike Shanahan and Rick Dennison in favor of the power-blocking game? I understood this decision was made in order to be more successful in short-yardage situations due to heavier linemen, but it seems the Broncos cannot run effectively at all this season.
Broncos make a minor roster move | All Things Broncos
It was hardly the day-after-a-debacle move many Broncos fans certainly were hoping for, but the team did make one roster move on Monday.
Giants deliver knockout blow to Cowboys - NFC East Blog - ESPN
As he ran off the field following the extra point that put the Cowboys up 20-7, New York Giants defensive end Justin Tuck was actually laughing. The Giants had already turned the ball over three times and allowed a 93-yard kickoff return for a touchdown and Tuck wondered what else could go wrong.
Dallas Cowboys quarterback Tony Romo fractures left clavicle vs. New York Giants - ESPN Dallas
With his night over, and maybe his season, Dallas Cowboys quarterback Tony Romo slowly walked down off a small stage in an interview room Monday night wearing a sling.
Former VP of officiating backs refs for Pittsburgh Steelers-Miami Dolphins replay call - ESPN
Upon further review, the Dolphins-Steelers officiating crew made only one mistake on the pivotal play of the game.
Sources: Minnesota Vikings' Brad Childress to be fined for officiating comments - ESPN
Minnesota coach Brad Childress is in hot water with the league office after some comments he made regarding the officiating in the Vikings' 28-24 loss to the Green Bay Packers on Sunday night.
Washington Redskins' DeAngelo Hall on Jay Cutler: Trying me didn't work - ESPN Chicago
"You know what man, Jay's a little bit, he don't really understand, I guess, the game, the game of football," Hall said Monday on "SportsCenter." "And in the game of football, you're gonna see guys several times in their career. You know, he completed four passes against me when I was out in Oakland and he was in Denver on a Monday Night Football game, and I knew leading up to the game he was still feeling good about that.
Mike Ditka: Chicago Bears QB Jay Cutler looks shell-shocked - ESPN Chicago
Cutler, who has been sacked an NFL-high 27 times this season, threw four interceptions to DeAngelo Hall -- including one he returned 92 yards for a touchdown -- in the Bears' 17-14 loss to the Washington Redskins on Sunday. He also lost a fumble on a quarterback sneak at the 1-yard line.
NFL.com news: Offenses pay the price for putting ball in the air
1. Weekend of the INT It's only logical that NFL teams passing more than ever leads to a rise in sacks and interceptions by defenses … but this was an exceptional weekend for picking off passes. In 13 games played, there were 29 interceptions and nine returned for touchdowns. David Bowens of the Browns wasn't even a starter in the game against the Saints, but he found the end zone twice. Washington's DeAngelo Hall had four picks and the final one was the game-winning touchdown. It is clear that Cover 2 zones and zone-dog blitzes where defensive linemen drop into coverage have put players in good situations to intercept passes.
NFL.com news: Week 7 provides history lesson for observers, bad and good
As Broncos coach Josh McDaniels told his team after getting destroyed at home by the Raiders, "We get one chance a week to put our name on something for the three hours that we play and coach on Sunday and our name is forever going to be put on this game. None of us are proud of it, but we're a part of it and those of us who are a part of the problem are also going to have to be a part of the solution."
NFL.com news: Favre unsure of status after re-injuring ankle vs. Packers
Vikings quarterback Brett Favre struggled to walk through the locker room and to and from his postgame news conference after re-injuring his surgically repaired left ankle in Sunday’s 28-24 loss to the Green Bay Packers. He said he knows by the time he gets off the plane back in Minneapolis, it would be "pretty bad."
NFL.com news: Haynesworth shows flashes of former dominance vs. Bears
Albert Haynesworth bullrushed offensive lineman Chris Williams into quarterback Jay Cutler, knocking the two Chicago Bears players down like dominoes. Now that's an awesome way to get a sack.
Final Week 7 notes | National Football Post
1. Dallas is in serious trouble: At 1-5, can we finally shut the door on the Cowboys? Add in the broken collarbone for QB Tony Romo, and I don’t see how this club can realistically compete in the NFC East. The Giants looked more physical, handled the Cowboys’ pressure and ate up that Dallas secondary. The Cowboys looked disinterested at times in the second half last night and have to run their offense through backup QB Jon Kitna moving forward. Talk about a major disappointment for Jerry Jones’ franchise.
Harbaugh: Ravens won't apologize for narrow win | National Football Post
Apologies in football are usually reserved for defeats of the disastrous variety.
Failure to challenge Cutler fumble haunts Lovie | National Football Post
The Chicago Bears coach, in a rare admission of error when it comes to football strategy, admitted Monday that his failure to challenge a fumble by Jay Cutler on a quarterback sneak Sunday at Soldier Field was a critical element in the team’s 17-14 loss to the Washington Redskins.
No contract talks for Manning until season's over | National Football Post
The Indianapolis Colts and quarterback Peyton Manning won't pick up contract talks again until after the season, a negotiating stance prompted by the Manning camp.
Cowboys' season of discontent hits new low with Tony Romo injury - John P. Lopez - SI.com
. Tony Romo became the Giants' latest victim. If your name is Matt Hasselbeck, feel free to start checking your insurance coverages and deductibles now. The Giants' defensive front is scary-good right now. The Cowboys' season unofficially came to an end with 12:09 remaining in the second-quarter. That's when Giants linebacker Michael Boley came through untouched -- a regular occurrence on this night -- and slammed Romo hard to the turf on a legal hit. Romo immediately began grabbing his left shoulder. It later was determined to be a broken clavicle, likely shelving Romo for 8-10 weeks. His backup, Jon Kitna, was a train wreck running the offense. But that's what the Giants do. Romo became the seventh quarterback to be knocked out of a game for at least one series by the Giants' ferocious pass rush. The Giants have a bye week coming up, then travel to Seattle to face the Seahawks. Good luck, Matt.
Ben Roethlisberger fumble against Miami; Brett Favre-Brad Childress feud - Peter King - SI.com
We interrupt an awful lot happening here in Week 7, including the Ben Roethlisberger fumble and give back, to bring you the Stat of the Year, on the heels of Drew Brees and Brett Favre throwing seven interceptions between them to lead their teams to losses Sunday. The World Series hasn't even started yet, and they've already thrown more interceptions, combined, than they did all last year. Their combined numbers:
Minnesota's Brad Childress: NFL apologized for overturning Visante Shiancoe TD - NFL - SI.com
Minnesota coach Brad Childress says the NFL has apologized for an overturned touchdown that cost the Vikings four points in a four-point loss at Green Bay.
New Orleans RB Reggie Bush hopes to play this week - NFL - SI.com
Reggie Bush expressed optimism on Monday that he would be able to practice this week on his healing right leg and possibly play on Sunday night against the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Alex Smith injury update: 49ers QB waiting to hear on shoulder - NFL - SI.com
San Francisco quarterback Alex Smith spent Monday morning at a hospital in London having his injured left shoulder examined and is still waiting to hear if he will be able to play Sunday against the Denver Broncos at Wembley Stadium.
Source: 49ers owners losing patience with Singletary - NFL - Rumors - FanNation
ollowing the 49ers' sixth loss in seven games to open the season, John and Jed York privately expressed displeasure about the team's coaching to their "inner circle," a team source told Comcast SportsNet on Sunday.
Cowboys' season is broken beyond repair - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
After eight days of talk about devastating hits, the Dallas Cowboys endured a comprehensively brutal blow from which they won’t likely recover, at least not this season.
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The Cowboys losing...
Is the only thing that helps. It’s a soothing balm, slathered over the 21st degree burns of the Raiders victory Sunday.
It doesn’t help the pain but I think that the swelling has gone down a bit.
Okay, where’s that bottle of scotch I had when I went to bed…
When 75 yards rushing is the best thing you did all day, you have nothing to be proud of.
by TheMastermind on Oct 26, 2010 7:38 AM MDT up reply actions
Thanks John
Best way to say sorry to the fans and Bowlen is to turn this ship around and start winning some MF games.
Reasons for inconsistent defense that don't have anything to do with who our coordinator is?
I’m gonna throw this out there.
We don’t draft well on defense and haven’t for years. Almost everybody on that side of the ball is a free agent that some other team didn’t deem worthy of resigning. It’s ok to plug in a FA here and there to plug a hole but our entire defense has been neglected for so long that no wonder we are in the shape we’re in defensively.
Some people got nothing to be angry about so they're angry about nothing. - Doug Stanhope
I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else where I was capable of thinking for myself. - Thomas Jefferson
by MrFNSunshine on Oct 26, 2010 7:21 AM MDT reply actions 1 recs
That Klis mailbag was an honest thermometer of the way the majority of Bronco nation feels about McD. The majority of us either don’t trust, understand or like him (maybe all three).
This London game is probably the end of the line for Singletary. If San Fran loses, Mike’s coaching career there is probably over (dead man walking). Likewise for McD, if we lose to the 49ers and return to face KC at 2-6, the Investco crowd will be nothing short of hostile and brutal to the home team with the ire aimed at the HC.
It’s not an interesting game nationally or for the NFL landscape in general, but it is absolutely huge for both head coaches. Probably make for some competitive football if both sets of players show up.
If David Carr is the QB for the 49ers, it won’t matter for them since he is about as good as Chris Simms.
I have as much enthusiasm to talk Broncos as my team had when they played the Raiders.
"Hostile" isn't even the word.
That wasn’t even the same team that played the Jets the week before. Sunday’s performance looked like a team that hadn’t practiced together since August. Did they even prepare for this game?
Regardless of how as a fan, we might have felt prior to this week about anybody in the Broncos organization from Bowlen on down, there’s no excuse whatsoever for what happened Sunday and I think Broncos Country is united in outrage right now.
And the worst part about all of it is that no matter what happens between Oakland and Denver from now until the end of time, Raiders fans will ALWAYS be able to point to this one.
A genie could grant McDaniels three wishes and the Broncos could win out all year, make the playoffs and win the Super Bowl 100-0 and Raiders fans would STILL have “59-14”.
We will NEVER live this one down, and that is what grieves me the most.
Let them contemplate this on the tree of woe.
When 75 yards rushing is the best thing you did all day, you have nothing to be proud of.
by TheMastermind on Oct 26, 2010 7:44 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I agree...a PERMANENT BLIGHT on the history of our team. Thanks McD and thanks players...glad to see you have so much pride in yourselves and OUR team!
You, my friend, are proof you dont need to have big floppy feet and a red nose to be a clown!
"I actually watched the World Cup. I HATE baseball. Hockey’s over. Hey, at least we have the WNBA. Oh, man. I’m making a noose. Want one?"
Harv Neptune.
by boydy2669 on Oct 26, 2010 7:49 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I’ve never been a huge Bailey fan because of his quiet demeanor, lack of leadership, lack of grooming the young CBs, and all the horrible Bronco D’s he has played on in Denver.
He is a sublime talent and I enjoy watching him play, but he doesn’t have a place in my heart like an Atwater, Al Wilson or Mecklenberg.
He quit Sunday during the early stages of the 2nd quarter. Just stopped playing hard. That game ruined Bailey for me permanently. Clady also lost a lot of my respect in that game Sunday. His play has really fallen off since 2008, but he did something Sunday that was all wrong. Moreno made a long run and asked for Clady to help him up off the turf near the goal line. Clady looked right at him and walked away. Even if Clady didn’t see Moreno, he should know to help us his RB after a big gain. So Moreno then helped himself up and looked around a bit confused. We ran behind Clady the next play and got stuffed at the goal line.
Our team is really screwed up right now. And our young HC doesn’t seem to know what to do about it since we are so far off the rigid course he is trying to plot.
I have as much enthusiasm to talk Broncos as my team had when they played the Raiders.
by McGeorge on Oct 26, 2010 8:00 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hard to plot a course with a gash in you yacht and no rudder....McD should be trying to fix the leaks to stop sinking instead of plotting a course to far away lands!
You, my friend, are proof you dont need to have big floppy feet and a red nose to be a clown!
"I actually watched the World Cup. I HATE baseball. Hockey’s over. Hey, at least we have the WNBA. Oh, man. I’m making a noose. Want one?"
Harv Neptune.
Argh...matie...
You know, this is a team that appeared on the cusp of having an identity a week ago, and looked utterly clueless this week in every way, at every position and in every phase of the game. So much so in fact, that you almost have to wonder if they intentionally did NOT practice all week and threw the game.
I’m joking of course, but when you look THAT unprepared it is hard to comprehend how that happens.
But you make a good point – coaches like to say that you are playing for the Super Bowl, or for the playoffs. But this team clearly has a boat load (to continue the nautical comparisons) of fundamentals to work on – the kind of fundamentals that McDaniels has always indicated are critical to the success of any team.
And he’s right. But a student is only as good at their teacher and this week the teacher is the one who clearly has some fundamentals to ponder.
When 75 yards rushing is the best thing you did all day, you have nothing to be proud of.
by TheMastermind on Oct 26, 2010 8:14 AM MDT up reply actions
Agreed.....we are on the precipice of disaster...we lose this weekend....we will be a 3-13 to 4-12 team.....thats how bad this could get.
You, my friend, are proof you dont need to have big floppy feet and a red nose to be a clown!
"I actually watched the World Cup. I HATE baseball. Hockey’s over. Hey, at least we have the WNBA. Oh, man. I’m making a noose. Want one?"
Harv Neptune.
I've already given up on the season.
That’s not pessimism, that’s just reality. Much the way we were playing with fire coasting on a suspect defense last year, it was only a matter of time till the wheels came off being so one dimensional THIS year.
And with five losses in your first seven games you statistically have to face the fact that this team is done. We just don’t have the tools to recover from this kind of start, and very few teams ever have.
But it seemed as though things might be coming together last week. This week we see that this team’s level of preparation varies widely week to week.
The amoeba approach can work well when you have a deep roster, and the personnel to carry it out. But right now we don’t and although I am not a coach I tend to suspect that this team needs to pick an identity and stick with it for now.
Maybe I am wrong, but when what you’re doing isn’t working consistently anyway – despite the fact I admire a man who can stick to his guns – there’s no harm in considering all available options.
When 75 yards rushing is the best thing you did all day, you have nothing to be proud of.
by TheMastermind on Oct 26, 2010 8:23 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I saw something late in the game that bothered me.
I forget what the play was, but it was sometime in the 4th quarter. Demariyus Thomas was standing near the pile as the play was blown dead. A Raiders LB gave him a shove in the back. DT turned and looked at the Raider, looked around, then turned and walked away.
I understand DT is a rookie, but where was the fight? Where was the fire? Where were his TEAMMATES?
- Nick
"Know the enemy, know yourself, and victory is never in doubt, not in a hundred battles."
- Sun Tzu
"if you look close, there’s a hoodie lurking in the background of picture 4. similar to the classic sasquatch shot and equally stunning, as the denver temperature today is relatively fair."
-oxmouth
Yeah
why not hand them 15 free yards. Good for DT to walk away. Don’t add more insult to so much injury
Opinions are like......, Well anyway, this is mine.
Don’t worry about it. As an ignorant redneck, I’m qualified to say that.
Really?
15 free yards when the score is already that far out of hand? I had a coach that would make sure we were running if something like that happened and we DIDN’T jump to a teammate’s defense. He didn’t look like he was being ‘smart,’ he looked like he was scared and intimidated. At some point in the game of football, you should stand up to the bullies.
- Nick
"Know the enemy, know yourself, and victory is never in doubt, not in a hundred battles."
- Sun Tzu
"if you look close, there’s a hoodie lurking in the background of picture 4. similar to the classic sasquatch shot and equally stunning, as the denver temperature today is relatively fair."
-oxmouth
I hear what you are saying
I also know that if he did fight back and get a penalty there would be plenty of posts in here condemning him for being unprofessioal. Or “It was bad enough then this” type comments.
He is paid to play football and there is no reason to make bad worse.
Opinions are like......, Well anyway, this is mine.
Don’t worry about it. As an ignorant redneck, I’m qualified to say that.
Disagree.
Show some fight, somehow.
- Nick
"Know the enemy, know yourself, and victory is never in doubt, not in a hundred battles."
- Sun Tzu
"if you look close, there’s a hoodie lurking in the background of picture 4. similar to the classic sasquatch shot and equally stunning, as the denver temperature today is relatively fair."
-oxmouth
The Raiders are cheap so I don’t mind DT walking away.
Seeing Champ play lazy, heartless ball or Clady flagrantly disrespect a teammate are much more troubling.
I stopped focusing on the results of the plays about the end of Q1 Sunday. I knew that game was over the moment The Raiders went ahead 21-0. So I just watched the players’ reactions to the action on the field. I watched body language, watched McD on the sideline. It was fascinating and very disheartening. Nothing McD said he wants in a team was on display. It was the ultimate example of not walking the talk.
There are signs this team doesn’t care for each other or their coaches. We’ve had a very professional feel until the Raider game, but it stops there. I see little to no unity on this Bronco roster. I don’t miss Marshall or Cutler, but they were not the locker room problems we were lead to believe they were. The problems lies much deeper than a few players.
I have as much enthusiasm to talk Broncos as my team had when they played the Raiders.
I wonder
how much that tough loss to the Jets have affected them?
Opinions are like......, Well anyway, this is mine.
Don’t worry about it. As an ignorant redneck, I’m qualified to say that.
I saw that same play with Moreno and was wondering who didn’t help him up. I never did see. Wow. If that’s true (and I’ll take your word for it) then that’s messed up. However, maybe we missed something. We only have the tape (usually one angle) to discern what’s going on, so maybe there was more to the story.
One can hope, anyway….
by Gristle McThornbody on Oct 26, 2010 11:24 AM MDT up reply actions
I hate the Raiders, but I’ve always considered the Chiefs our main rival and the team I hate most. I hate Rivers more than any single player so the home blowouts from KC and San Diego were much more upsetting to me personally. Now all three of our most hated rivals have crushed us in our house in the most recent contest. It’s pathetic.
I can’t remember a time in the last couple decades when we were in this bad of shape. McD looked as lonely on that sideline as I felt watching that game on my coach in Florida.
I have as much enthusiasm to talk Broncos as my team had when they played the Raiders.
by McGeorge on Oct 26, 2010 7:50 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
There is a photo of him leaving the field...I REALLY felt sorry for him....so alone and with a rain of abuse being thrown at him.
You, my friend, are proof you dont need to have big floppy feet and a red nose to be a clown!
"I actually watched the World Cup. I HATE baseball. Hockey’s over. Hey, at least we have the WNBA. Oh, man. I’m making a noose. Want one?"
Harv Neptune.
Yeah well...
When you perform like THAT you deserve abuse. Any coach would ride an individual player who performed that poorly in a game. When the team as a whole performs like that, the coach deserves to take the hit.
That’s just the nature of the beast.
When 75 yards rushing is the best thing you did all day, you have nothing to be proud of.
by TheMastermind on Oct 26, 2010 7:57 AM MDT up reply actions
I agree on Rivers...
I’ve always been ambivalent about the Chefs.
But the Raiders. The RAIDERS. And after that performance against the Jets. Against a team that couldn’t show up against the Niners.
Really? Seriously? Sickening.
I like McDaniels, and I’ve supported him because he’s our coach. But I don’t care if he was Tom Landry, Bill Walsh or Vince Lombardi. This is a “go sit in the corner and think about what you’ve done, you bastard” kind of defeat.
When 75 yards rushing is the best thing you did all day, you have nothing to be proud of.
by TheMastermind on Oct 26, 2010 7:59 AM MDT up reply actions
This is an excellent point.
I am one that believes in the rivalry. I’m seeing some people say it doesn’t really matter anymore. I grew up on the belief system “As long as we beat the Raiders, I can live with anything else.” My Raider co-worker just walked in to remind me, “59.” For the rest of my life, that’s all he’ll ever need to say…
- Nick
"Know the enemy, know yourself, and victory is never in doubt, not in a hundred battles."
- Sun Tzu
"if you look close, there’s a hoodie lurking in the background of picture 4. similar to the classic sasquatch shot and equally stunning, as the denver temperature today is relatively fair."
-oxmouth
Singletary is in MUCH worse shape than McD
Most of the criticism against McD has been on the personnel side, he is generally regarded as a competent football coach. SIngletary’s basic competency is being openly questioned. The pressure is rising on McD for sure but Singletary is in very real danger on not surviving the season.
We can’t underestimate Carr. Backups generally do much better after a week of first team reps and he doesn’t have that big of shoes to fill to start with.
Singletary is in over his head.
McDaniels is a competent coach who is still learning how to run an entire team. Maybe he’ll get it one day, and maybe he won’t.
Singletary is simply in no way qualified for his job. You might level the same argument against McDaniels, but Singletary clearly does not grasp the fundamentals of being a head coach in any way.
This STILL does not mean we win this weekend. All bets are off from here on out. The woest the team is the greater the odds we get our asses handed to us, it seems. I’d almost feel better if we were playing New England.
When 75 yards rushing is the best thing you did all day, you have nothing to be proud of.
by TheMastermind on Oct 26, 2010 8:01 AM MDT up reply actions
And BTW
It bothers me to say this about Singletary, because I like him as a player and a person and would love to see him succeed. But the proof is ultimately in the pudding, as the British like to say.
When 75 yards rushing is the best thing you did all day, you have nothing to be proud of.
by TheMastermind on Oct 26, 2010 8:11 AM MDT up reply actions
I agree with you. I think the game in London could very well be the end of the line for Singletary and said so in my post. He is on an uber hot seat.
I’m not sure his team likes him so I doubt they fight for his job. That Panther defeat had to be a massive blow to their collective will.
I have as much enthusiasm to talk Broncos as my team had when they played the Raiders.
there could be another epic offseason coaching carousel upcoming
Singletary
ol’ Wade
Lovie
McDaniels
Fox
Norval?! I hope not… ;)
I just hope that if we do make a coaching change that we bring in a coach that understands...
defense wins championships. I want the Broncos to have the most feared front seven in football. That is the kind of football i love to watch and it’s been missing from Denver for too long now.
Some people got nothing to be angry about so they're angry about nothing. - Doug Stanhope
I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else where I was capable of thinking for myself. - Thomas Jefferson
by MrFNSunshine on Oct 26, 2010 8:51 AM MDT up reply actions
ha... how far back were u referring to?
I wouldn’t characterize our SB defenses as “feared” necessarily…
Smith, Pryce, Traylor, Alfred, Mobley, Romo, Aldridge
Good to great players, opportunistic, ball hawking… but not “feared” per se.
Maybe some of the 80s guys… Fletcher, Rulon, Kragen, Meck.
But probably alllll the way back into the 70s with Gradishar, TJ, etc!
Yeesh…
by tunga77 on Oct 26, 2010 9:09 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'll take any of those guys right about now.
Hell, I’ll take all of them if I could. The SB D’s ranked in the top five if I’m not mistaken. We need to get back to that level and that will take many years of good drafting.
Some people got nothing to be angry about so they're angry about nothing. - Doug Stanhope
I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else where I was capable of thinking for myself. - Thomas Jefferson
by MrFNSunshine on Oct 26, 2010 9:15 AM MDT up reply actions
oh most definitely
I’ll gladly take any of those guys as well… I’m just saying it’s been a loooong time since we’ve had an 85 bears or steel curtain or purple people eater type D… not since the Orange Crush days.
I’m not sure about the Top 5 stat though… I seem to remember those SB defenses giving up a lot of yards, a bend-but-dont-break type, and then always getting the opportunistic turnover or sack to end opponents’ drives…
What also helped them tremendously was that the offense most of the times got them an early lead and then they could just tee off on opposing QB’s.
There is nothing tired about it. It's basic football. Our organization has just forgotten it somehow.
I’ve seen a lot of teams over the years with mediocre offense and ST’s and stifling defenses win championships. How else do you explain hacks like Doug Williams, Trent Dilfer, Phil Simms, and Jim McMahon having SB rings? Name me the last team with a crappy defense that won a superbowl.
Some people got nothing to be angry about so they're angry about nothing. - Doug Stanhope
I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else where I was capable of thinking for myself. - Thomas Jefferson
by MrFNSunshine on Oct 26, 2010 9:59 AM MDT up reply actions
Saints
last year. pretty crappy D, only thing they did well was get turnovers. everything else was terrible.
by black_knight101 on Oct 26, 2010 10:15 AM MDT up reply actions
Touche'
I still say that is an aberration and not the norm.
Some people got nothing to be angry about so they're angry about nothing. - Doug Stanhope
I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else where I was capable of thinking for myself. - Thomas Jefferson
by MrFNSunshine on Oct 26, 2010 10:46 AM MDT up reply actions
Even Rex Ryan moved up in the draft to get a QB and developed a top rushing attack
You can’t win on just one side of the ball. The success of those teams you reference was pretty short lived too.
I think Wade Phillips is a cool dude
Not the best coach, but I’d enjoy drinking beer and watching TV with that guy.
that's kind of a dumb article honestly.
mike tomlin seems to be doing just fine.
by black_knight101 on Oct 26, 2010 10:10 AM MDT up reply actions
It's a poignant article
Depressing, sad, and painful, but accurate.
no but DL depths not bad
Briggs was only on roster for ST, means one of our big STers (McBath or Woodyard) should be back this week
by black_knight101 on Oct 26, 2010 10:11 AM MDT up reply actions
Thanks for the Horse Tracks John!
If LaMont Jordan recognized players on the team as being in need of some ‘thicker skin’ – I can only imagine what kind of bitching (hopefully only a couple) players are doing behind McDaniels’ back???
Are they buying into what he’s laying down, or just pretending they do to his face? I really can’t help but wonder.
That's quite a long handle there, G Funk. - That's what she said.
First (and only, in our lifetimes) team to three consecutive SB wins!!!! ( =
by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Oct 26, 2010 10:08 AM MDT reply actions
I think Ryan Clady might be one of those guys you are talking about.
I have as much enthusiasm to talk Broncos as my team had when they played the Raiders.
I didn't want to name names
But yeah, I have a sinking feeling you may be right (again) on this one.
That's quite a long handle there, G Funk. - That's what she said.
First (and only, in our lifetimes) team to three consecutive SB wins!!!! ( =
by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Oct 26, 2010 11:17 AM MDT up reply actions
Broncos are averaging 2.9 ypc? Are you kidding me?!
I would love to see the Broncos develop a running game. Compare the Broncos running game to some of their former backs:
R. Torain 381yds 3tds 4.6avg
P. Hillis 460yds 5tds 4.4avg
Denver 479yrds 4tds 2.9avg
@charliedrysdale
Well,.......
If you don’t like it, sell your tickets and stay home, or don’t go to the bars to watch the game. Otherwise, get off the wagon and go see a college game. There’s also soccor playoffs out there for you. These moves would obviously save you money and stop your bum-hurting.
Cheer up. Pro Basketball starts this week and there is baseball and in only four and a half months, Baseball regular season starts all over again…..
It is absolutle embarrassing to watch supposedly grown men and women bawl about a game. Disgusaing. Holy Tebow. Grow up…..
And same to ya………..
Anyone catch the Jay Leno opening monolog where he ridiculed the Broncos?
You know, I would have guessed that my team being a national laughing stock would stink. Now that I’ve experience it, I can honestly say it’s worse than I thought it would be. Time to drink. Heavily.
