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Broncos won't make excuses for offensive line's woes - The Denver Post
Blitzing hard from the outside are excuses of injury.

Krieger: Lack of running game could get Orton hurt - The Denver Post
Only three NFL quarterbacks have been sacked as often as Kyle Orton so far this season. Two of them — Jay Cutler and Michael Vick — have been knocked out of games with injuries already.

Broncos RB Moreno returns to practice - The Denver Post
Never fear, Broncos running game. Help, or some semblance of it, appears to be on the way.

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Woody's Mailbag: Broncos were fortuitous AND good against Titans - The Denver Post
How is this luck? Was this not solid defense being played by the Broncos? They bottled up Chris Johnson all day; I don't think that's luck. The Titans had 46 yards of total offense in the second half. Remind me again how this is due to luck. Were there lucky developments in the game? Yes, definitely. But was the sole reason of the victory due to luck? No. The Broncos put themselves in position to win the game, and due to a little luck, that played out. But give the D at least a little credit!

Analysis: Ravens are wrong team for Broncos to rev running game against - The Denver Post
There are far easier NFL teams than Baltimore for the Broncos to kick-start their running game against. But the schedule forces the Broncos to try to do it on the road Sunday against the Ravens.

Q&A: Hillis just didn't fit McDaniels' scheme - The Denver Post
A lot has been written about (Peyton) Hillis not getting a chance to show Broncos coach Josh McDaniels what he can do, but I have not seen anything written about why, or even a speculation. As a student of Bill Belichick's, one would think that a hard-nosed, no-nonsense, tough guy like Hillis would be exactly what McD wants on a team. So why, then, did he run him out of town so quickly?

Broncos' Josh McDaniels praises tough, physical Ravens - The Denver Post
The question brought an understanding grin from Broncos coach Josh McDaniels, but not a direct answer.

Why would Finnegan invite Orton back to Nashville? | All Things Broncos
That’s my question after reading the comments today from Tennessee cornerback Cortland Finnegan.

NFL.com news: Belichick knows exactly what he's doing by trading Moss
The Patriots shipping Randy Moss to the Vikings on Wednesday is the boldest move in the NFL since, well, at least Easter, when the Eagles sent Donovan McNabb to division rival Washington. And the more I think about it, the more telling that comparison is. The parallels are striking.

NFL.com news: Revis: Moss sometimes plays 100 percent, sometimes doesn't
Darrelle Revis is ready to play, and you can bet Randy Moss hopes the New York Jets' All-Pro cornerback is out there defending him Monday night.

NFL.com news: Redskins turn to Torain with injured RB Portis out 4 to 6 weeks
Clinton Portis will be out at least one month with a groin injury, putting the two-time Pro Bowl running back's future in doubt once again.

NFL.com news: Report: Packers LB Barnett might have season-ending surgery
The Green Bay Packers' defense might have to absorb another season-ending injury to a starter.

NFL.com news: Cardinals to start rookie QB Hall vs. Saints, bench Anderson
Cardinals coach Ken Whisenhunt has put his team's struggling offense into undrafted rookie quarterback Max Hall's hands.

NFL.com news: Kolb shuts down talk of his future as Eagles' No. 1 QB
After Kevin Kolb suffered a concussion during last month's season opener, Eagles coach Andy Reid said the quarterback would regain the starting job as soon as he was healthy.

NFL.com news: Lynch, Seahawks hope union proves beneficial to both
At the University of California, Marshawn Lynch couldn't stand Pete Carroll, wishing somehow he could lay a hit on the USC coach.

John Henderson has a stress fracture | National Football Post
The Oakland Raiders' defense will have to get by without defensive tackle John Henderson for a while.

Inside Martz's game plan | National Football Post
Game plans in the NFL are scripted based off of your opponent’s four previous games. Go back through a month of tape and start scouting: tendencies, personnel, formations, alignments, etc. They are in-depth, detailed and provide you—the player—with a guide to go to work with on Sundays.

Ravens ranked 29th in punt returns | National Football Post
The Baltimore Ravens believe they’ve figured out why their punt return game has languished so far this season.

The Randy Moss aftermath | National Football Post
After scoring 50 touchdowns in 52 regular season games with the New England Patriots from 2007-2010, Pro Bowl wide receiver Randy Moss has been traded to the Minnesota Vikings.

Cortland Finnegan: 'I could care less what that dude says' | National Football Post
After being accused by Denver Broncos quarterback Kyle Orton of being a "cheap player, not a good player," Tennessee Titans cornerback Cortland Finnegan has responded in kind.

NFL.com news: Belichick's gamble leaves contending Patriots short on talent
It's hard to question Bill Belichick's football decisions with the New England Patriots, but there are some rare exceptions.

NFL.com news: Moss trade changes dynamics of Vikes, Pats and NFC North
The trade between the Vikings and Patriots for wide receiver Randy Moss further exemplifies Minnesota's push for a shot at a Super Bowl this season, New England trying to get value for a player it didn't plan on re-signing after the season, and the Patriots' belief that no one player outside of Tom Brady is vital to their success.

New England Patriots coach Bill Belichick knew bomb was ticking with a disgruntled Randy Moss - ESPN Boston
Successful football coaches don't just lead their teams through periods of crisis. They also anticipate when those crises might arise and react accordingly.

Sources: Randy Moss, New England Patriots quarterbacks coach in heated exchange Monday - ESPN Boston
Receiver Randy Moss and New England Patriots quarterbacks coach Bill O'Brien were involved in a heated exchange at halftime of the team's victory Monday over the Miami Dolphins, according to player sources.

Quiet Chicago Bears' Jay Cutler throws; status uncertain for Carolina Panthers - ESPN Chicago
Chicago Bears quarterback Jay Cutler was limited in practice Wednesday, and his status for Sunday's game against the Carolina Panthers is still uncertain as he recovers from a concussion he suffered against the New York Giants.

Randy Moss trade to Minnesota Vikings from New England Patriots puts them back on Super Bowl course - Peter King - SI.com
"Are you serious? This is gonna be interesting. In a great way! Welcome home Randy!'' -- Minnesota wide receiver Sidney Rice, asked on his Twitter feed if he was OK with the trade for Randy Moss.

Sam Bradford has defensive help in St. Louis; Tom Brady's rolling - Peter King - SI.com
Three points on a very busy football Tuesday: the Rams legitimately turning it around, the Patriots going back to the future, and why you should care about the legacy of George Blanda.

Cheat Sheet: Detroit ready to turn corner? - NFL News - FOX Sports on MSN
I've been struggling coming to terms with the bizarre nature of the first four weeks of the NFL season. Of the 32 teams in the league, only one remains unbeaten. That squad? The Kansas City Chiefs, a team that’s averaged 3.3 wins over the past three seasons. Kyle Orton — he of legendary neck beards and wounded duck passes — leads the NFL in passing, two players from one team are currently ranked first and second in the league receptions and the Rams — a franchise that’s gone 6-42 over the past three seasons — are comfortably perched atop the NFC West, tied for first place.

Desperate act may just work out for Vikings - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
So let me get this straight: A coach who is feuding with a legendary quarterback and is dangerously close to losing his locker room just got dealt a star wideout who plays when he wants to play, sulks when he doesn’t get the football and once ran roughshod over the coach’s predecessor?

Moss' departure not a big blow for Pats - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
When the Minnesota Vikings traded Randy Moss(notes) to the Oakland Raiders in 2005, a high-ranking executive with the team basically couldn’t find enough ways to say "good riddance."


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Thanks John!

You, my friend, are proof you dont need to have big floppy feet and a red nose to be a clown!

"I actually watched the World Cup. I HATE baseball. Hockey’s over. Hey, at least we have the WNBA. Oh, man. I’m making a noose. Want one?"

Harv Neptune.

by boydy2669 on Oct 7, 2010 7:16 AM MDT reply actions  

Vick didn't get hurt because he was sacked...

He was sandwiched between two defenders on a scramble as he dove for the end zone. Might as well warn WR’s and RB’s not to get hit by cornerbacks and safeties when they reach the secondary.

by Ferris_ on Oct 7, 2010 7:31 AM MDT reply actions  

Should be our healthiest game all season. Will be pleased to see Woodyard back on the ST coverage units. He was missed in a big way. Not seeing Mays make as many ST plays as I’d hoped. Bruton still stars in this phase of the game. He should set his sights on that ST pro bowl spot. Would be a good goal.

Moreno needs to stay healthy for the rest of the season. If he can, should be one less early draft pick we need to burn in 2011. If not, I think he finds a younger RB on the roster next season. One primed to steal his starter spot.

Josh McDaniel's Broncos are 10 - 10. He holds a .500 winning percentage. Updated weekly.

by McGeorge on Oct 7, 2010 7:35 AM MDT reply actions  

I agree McG

Bruton has been tremendous. How many spots for ST pro bowlers are available though?
Im not sure he’s being noticed around the league.

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by BroncosNL on Oct 7, 2010 7:38 AM MDT up reply actions  

Just one

Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
My ship finally came in, but it was the Kobayashi Maru.

by KaptainKirk on Oct 7, 2010 7:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yep. That is why it’s a good goal. Unlike most other Pro Bowl spots, that one is not a beauty contest or based on past performance.

Josh McDaniel's Broncos are 10 - 10. He holds a .500 winning percentage. Updated weekly.

by McGeorge on Oct 7, 2010 8:03 AM MDT up reply actions  

we could probably see one either way,

as mcd loves to inspire better play through competition

The poster formerly known as "Denver_Diaspora"

by Jay Fin Anderson on Oct 7, 2010 9:01 AM MDT up reply actions  

With needs at ILB, pass rush, LG, DE, NT, SS as well, you can’t plug all the holes in one draft.

Josh McDaniel's Broncos are 10 - 10. He holds a .500 winning percentage. Updated weekly.

by McGeorge on Oct 7, 2010 10:20 AM MDT up reply actions  

not sure I'd put LG in that group yet

If the position doesn’t improve between Daniels and Beadles by Thanksgiving than I would say we have a problem there. Still not sure I wouldn’t want to wait 1 more year on the rook even at that point though.

by relocated bronco in NC on Oct 7, 2010 10:27 AM MDT up reply actions  

Still no talent at the DP.

Lindsey Jones missed the most obvious reason to her question…. “Why would Finnegan invite Orton back to Nashville?”

She conjectures having a beer, playing golf or to fight.

If she was or thought like an athlete, the answer to her question is simple.

The best reason Finnegan wouldn’t want Orton back in Nashville is because the last time Kyle was there; he torched the Titans collective a#### for 341 yards 2 TDs and a big fat home loss. Orton lit the Titans secondary up last Sunday.

This is the athlete’s and the appropriate response. Does Finnegan want Orton to further damage his and the Titans rep as a NFL D? Esp their secondary, the one in which Finnegan starts?

Josh McDaniel's Broncos are 10 - 10. He holds a .500 winning percentage. Updated weekly.

by McGeorge on Oct 7, 2010 7:48 AM MDT reply actions  

I'm not sure I follow....

She asked why Fin WOULD invite Kyle back…..which he sort of did but not really….

She didn’t ask why Fin WOULDN’T want to invite Kyle back…

All of your points to that effect are spot on, I’m just confused by your first sentence

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by DenBronx on Oct 7, 2010 8:04 AM MDT up reply actions  

Just a guess...

But I am thinking he is saying cheap Finnegan would like him to come back and be a Titan.

My glass is three quarters full at all times!

by BRONCOSAM on Oct 7, 2010 8:15 AM MDT up reply actions  

Who doesn't want that???

You, my friend, are proof you dont need to have big floppy feet and a red nose to be a clown!

"I actually watched the World Cup. I HATE baseball. Hockey’s over. Hey, at least we have the WNBA. Oh, man. I’m making a noose. Want one?"

Harv Neptune.

by boydy2669 on Oct 7, 2010 8:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

Lindsey's article was fine, albeit a little light

She facetiously postulated a few non-hostile reasons why Finnegan would invite Orton back to Nashville, like having a beer (maybe she was thinking about Obama’s “Beer Summit” in DC) before identifying the real reason as being an opportunity to duke it out. Contrary to McGeorge’s comment, any athlete would understand Finnegan’s remark to be more of a threat than a real invitation. This will come up again if Denver meets Tennessee in the playoffs, where Denver will be and Tennessee may or may not be. I think only the Colts and the Texans will make it from the AFC South.

by opinion8r on Oct 7, 2010 8:49 AM MDT up reply actions  

It’s definitely a threat. And proper response for an athlete would be.

“Are you sure you want me coming back into your house just to work you and your secondary over a 2nd time”

Some dudes like to be humiliated and humbled. Maybe Finnegan is one of them. One thing is for certain, he and his boys in that Titan secondary left the field Sunday with a reputation that was soiled and battered vs how they were perceived before the game.

Josh McDaniel's Broncos are 10 - 10. He holds a .500 winning percentage. Updated weekly.

by McGeorge on Oct 7, 2010 10:18 AM MDT up reply actions  

I think you got it backwards McG

I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.

by Topher Doll on Oct 7, 2010 9:16 AM MDT up reply actions  

Perhaps. I wasn’t sure if she was asking a rhetorical question.

I’m sure Kyle would be very willing to play another visit to Nashville. Why not, the Titans are an easy team to play if Kyle wants to pad his passing stats and rack up away wins.

I’m not sure why Finnegan would Kyle back in town. Unless he is a glutton for embarrassment and a devaluing of his status as a CB in the NFL.

Josh McDaniel's Broncos are 10 - 10. He holds a .500 winning percentage. Updated weekly.

by McGeorge on Oct 7, 2010 10:12 AM MDT up reply actions  

Although Orton has been sacked 11 times

He is seldom hit hard. Most of his sacks are when the pocket collapses and a player bear hugs him and falls down.

My projections Denver 11-5, San Diego 10-6, Oakland 9-7, Kansas City 7-9

WAIT!!!! Is that Kyle "noodle arm" Orton!

by 3nS on Oct 7, 2010 8:44 AM MDT reply actions  

3nS

I like your projections, although I don’t think Oakland goes 9-7 (they will falter as the season wears on)..

by opinion8r on Oct 7, 2010 8:54 AM MDT up reply actions  

Yeah I got that one wrong

I’m leaving it on my signature till the end of season though.

My projections Denver 11-5, San Diego 10-6, Oakland 9-7, Kansas City 7-9

WAIT!!!! Is that Kyle "noodle arm" Orton!

by 3nS on Oct 7, 2010 9:01 AM MDT up reply actions  

interesting...

ya havent seen any of those nasty blindside snot-knockers on him this season, like the 9 that cutler took the other night.
 
difference between them? orton has better pocket awareness, out of necessity. cutler has been able to get away with average pocket awareness because of his physical tools whereas orton has needed to know when and where guys are coming at him from.

The poster formerly known as "Denver_Diaspora"

by Jay Fin Anderson on Oct 7, 2010 9:04 AM MDT up reply actions  

He took two low shots vs the Titans. It’s not good seeing guys flying around his knees.

Josh McDaniel's Broncos are 10 - 10. He holds a .500 winning percentage. Updated weekly.

by McGeorge on Oct 7, 2010 10:21 AM MDT up reply actions  

true

My projections Denver 11-5, San Diego 10-6, Oakland 9-7, Kansas City 7-9

WAIT!!!! Is that Kyle "noodle arm" Orton!

by 3nS on Oct 7, 2010 10:28 AM MDT up reply actions  

Krieger's "articles"....

always seem to me to be the equivalent to “churning” you see among the stock sellers …..

by Gulbrand on Oct 7, 2010 9:07 AM MDT reply actions   1 recs

Treading water

I stopped reading Krieger and Kizla some time ago due to dissatisfaction with their content and positions. They both seem to do better in sports other than football, so maybe they are just treading water when it comes to football. As long as their articles on football get hits though, they will continue to be allowed to write on the subject.

by opinion8r on Oct 7, 2010 9:39 AM MDT up reply actions  

I hate that it seems

MSSM writers, are always trying to ‘stir’ controversy, like they are helping sell tickets by doing so.

I know, I know, they are just trying to help sell newspapers, or have the paper they write for gain popularity or whatever. But it is quite sickening sometimes, the levels to which they stoop time to time.

That's quite a long handle there, G Funk. - That's what she said.

First (and only, in our lifetimes) team to three consecutive SB wins!!!! ( =

by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Oct 7, 2010 10:11 AM MDT up reply actions  

Oh man

I made the mistake of scrolling too far while reading a DP post and accidentally read two of the comments……… Oh boy that place is depressing!! “McD sucks and so does everyone who doesn’t think so…” Seriously some guy said that he is still waiting for 3-4 good players to come out of the 5 great players we let go… Oh well, no comment.

John, thank you so much for keeping this place free of the troll trash that has infected so many other sites.

"And on the 8th day, God created Tim Tebow. And He saw that it was good. And He said, "I can now retire. Go forth and make Touchdowns through Running and Passing."

-Harvey J. Neptune

by JALefor on Oct 7, 2010 10:33 AM MDT reply actions  

Mostly free.

Madden be trippin' on my speed.

by TheMastermind on Oct 7, 2010 12:04 PM MDT up reply actions  

I always catch myself before getting that far anymore

Nothing to get the blood boiling like ignorant, so called ‘fans’.

That's quite a long handle there, G Funk. - That's what she said.

First (and only, in our lifetimes) team to three consecutive SB wins!!!! ( =

by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Oct 7, 2010 1:46 PM MDT up reply actions  

Q: Why would Finnegan invite Orton back to Nashville?

A: Because the dude is in to neckbeards. Duh.

Not that there’s anything wrong with it.

Madden be trippin' on my speed.

by TheMastermind on Oct 7, 2010 12:03 PM MDT reply actions   1 recs

NIce

That's quite a long handle there, G Funk. - That's what she said.

First (and only, in our lifetimes) team to three consecutive SB wins!!!! ( =

by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Oct 7, 2010 1:47 PM MDT up reply actions  

Oh, and Cortland...

A. It’s “couldn’t care less.”
B. If you don’t care, then why comment?

Madden be trippin' on my speed.

by TheMastermind on Oct 7, 2010 12:06 PM MDT reply actions  

Woody sure seemed grouchy

His response to the first topic sure seemed bitter. Is he always like that?

by Shurakair on Oct 8, 2010 9:11 AM MDT reply actions  

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