Changes Coming to the Denver Broncos Special Teams Coverage Unit?
The Broncos kickoff coverage unit dodged a bullet last week.
After two wholly average returns, the unit allowed a 98 yard return to Mariani after losing discipline and a physical battle on the interior seam. However, they got the chance to redeem themselves on the next play, when a short kick led to a solid play by Bruton, Vaughn and a number of other Broncos. No doubt that play helped to lessen the blow that the coverage players were bound to feel in meetings this week.
Well, most of the players anyways.
Mcdaniels comments after the game lead one to believe that despite the turnover, the Titan's game was the proverbial burdensome straw, that bane of bedouins. Something was going to change.
"It's something we're going to address this week," said Mcdaniels. "Who we have out there, how we are going to cover guys. It'll be different because we are giving up too many easy drive starts in the kickoff coverage right now."
Was he talking about anyone in particular?
Prater certainly isn't the issue there. Unless there is something to the claim that covering too many touchbacks leads to a lazy and complacent coverage unit. If so, coaching would be at the heart of the issue, but that isn't what I saw vs. Tennesse. Prater kicked a touchback to open the game, and as the runner downed the ball, everyone except Prater was crossing the goalline, in a great overall effort to hustle downfield. There is no doubting the effort that the unit is showing.
Guys like Bruton, McBath, Vaughn, they are all getting it done, and as the "speedsters" on the unit, it is important that they continue with their consistent play. Willis was replaced by McBath, but he will probably be the first sub called in if replacements beyond the injury subs are required. Jones is solid as an interior seam defender, and Mays is doing well in a critical role as one of the heavier tacklers. Gronkowski, replacing Larsen (who looks to be out this week) on STs, has done well, also.
After those guys, though, the performances are a little less consistent. Cox has been playing well, and is the innermost right side defender responsible for the interior seam. However, it was his choice to veer out of his lane that led to the open seam that Mariani exploited for the TD.
Also, Jarvis Moss struggled on every return play, and missed a tackle on the Mariani return. If you haven't noticed or guessed, he is the other guy, opposite Cox who is responsible for the interior seams. On the other 4 returns he either fell down or got clobbered by a block. On the final 28 yard return at the end of the game, it was Moss getting driven out of his lane that gave up the room for most of the yardage.
But of most note are two players who saw their numbers called, and benched over the course of the Titan's game. One was Syd'Quan Thompson, who was starting in place of the injured Woodyard (who looks about 50/50 for returning this week. Thompson should be viewed as the 12th man, or injury sub for the special teams unit (along with Willis, based on the gameplan). But after the long return he was benched and Champ Bailey came in and took his place for the final two returns. Also, Eric Decker, who has been on the coverage unit since the beginning of the season, and who I mentioned before in an article diagnosing STs problems (he didn't receive a high grade then either) was benched after the touchdown return. Hunter, the starting outside linebacker replaced him on the next two returns. Now, I have to admit that I didn't see any egregious errors by Decker in the first 2 returns, nor in the touchdown return (unless he was so far out place that he didn't look to be involved...)
Unlike Thompson, who was moved back onto the unit for the final kickoff of the day to replace the injured David Bruton, Decker was on the bench for good the rest of the day. Will he be on the outside looking in next week when the inactives are declared?
Decker was an extremely popular player before and after the draft, but because he was expected to be a WR reigniting the torch that Ed McAffery used to carry within the organization, as a tough, physical, smart WR. Many even expected that he would be playing and making an impact before Demaryius Thomas (which was almost right...he did get on the field first, but not on offense). But so far Decker hasn't managed to carve out a role for himself on the team beyond STs body. And if things continue as they have, he may find that his as yet unrealized dream of honoring the #87 as a Bronco is impacted by special teams in ways he never could have imagined.
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maybe someone could inform me, as i dont know football as well as many on this site...
why the hell is decker playing special teams?
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by Jay Fin Anderson on Oct 7, 2010 7:25 PM MDT reply actions
Man, i dont know either...let him play WR and call it good...I would have him a receiving TE type role.
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That would be interesting
Thomas is 20-25 pounds heavier though, and would be more suited to that role. But Thomas only lines up as a TE in heavy sets in the redzone, so he is the only true WR in those sets. I don’t think it would be a good idea to run the same type of plays with Decker.
But in terms of replacing a TE with a WR in the gameplan it might work. Of course, he would have to earn it…
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by Jeremy Bolander on Oct 7, 2010 7:40 PM MDT up reply actions
Yes
And I like it. DT in a 3 point stance is a pretty good match for and OLB on the edge. Got some nice blocks in last game. Wish my DVR hadn’t f*cked me or I would watch again…
Good question ...
I would like to know as well, for a guy with average speed and great hands, special teams does not seem to fit the skill set Decker possesses.
he hasn't cracked the starting lineup over any of the other WRs
so it is a way to contribute, since they want to have that 5th WR activated on gameday. Willis made one really bad play on kick coverage vs. the Jaguars, but was consistent otherwise…
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by Jeremy Bolander on Oct 7, 2010 7:29 PM MDT up reply actions
In other words
If he doesn’t play special teams, he won’t see the field at all. I don’t know if that means he is stoked to defend kicks or not, but from the outside looking in, it isn’t good to be benched for any reason.
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by Jeremy Bolander on Oct 7, 2010 7:32 PM MDT up reply actions
Yeah, but why play a guy just to play a guy...
Let him develop I guess, or carry him as an extra WR, but effecting the team just to let a guy play makes no sense. You could tell after week 1 that Decker sucked on ST.
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Well, he is talented...
I can’t think of a good reason why he would struggle on STs… 4.55 is as fast as he needs to be in a contain role, he is a physical blocker and is used to making contact in the open field. And like I said, I didn’t really see a big problem in the Titan’s game with him, nothing that jumped out anyways but he was benched. Maybe he got hurt…
I would have to guess that he is performing in practice better than guys like Willis and Thompson, since he is ahead of those guys. But also, we have two STers out right now, so that might be putting pressure on him to play. I’m thinking that the coaches want as many players to contribute as possible so that guys like Champ and hunter aren’t pulling double duty. Since they want the extra WR activated on gameday, he needs to contribute on STs. But if he can’t, they will start someone else who can… problem is, with our injuries, the only one who is similar would be Quinn, and I think he has already been benched for performance reasons.
Either one could start to get it at anytime though.
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by Jeremy Bolander on Oct 7, 2010 7:50 PM MDT up reply actions
its tough to make a judgment 4 games in,
especially with the corps of receivers we have on the field now.
has he played a snap, besides coverage on kickoffs?
herein lies the frustration on not knowing what happens on the practice field.
though we certainly see the result of it, in that Decker gets 0 looks and Thomas/gaff/lloyd/royal many.
i guess i am just pumped about our potential depth, and look forward to seeing what they really bring to the table.
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by Jay Fin Anderson on Oct 7, 2010 7:35 PM MDT up reply actions
definitely
it is exciting to know that we have so many options. What if Lloyd goes down with injury? That would suck, especially given the breakout he is experiencing, but the team would be ok, I’m confident of that.
And regarding practice, i can’t imagine that they have stuck with him like this unless he has been practicing well (on STs at least). I know Willis is as motivated as they come, and really Decker has his work cut out for him just staying ahead of that little dude.
In the meantime Thomas is having a breakout game, after not even hardly practicing in the offseason. That has to be a tough situation….
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by Jeremy Bolander on Oct 7, 2010 8:01 PM MDT up reply actions
If you're a backup player, you must play STs
If you can’t play special teams, you get cut from the team. That’s the basic formula used to arrive at the final 53. Decker’s in danger of becoming a bust unless he cracks the starting lineup, replacing Gaffney. With the way #10 is playing, I don’t see that happening for 2 years or more.
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thanks I was wondering if these people wanted all the starters on ST's or thought we had a 100 man roster +100
oldcoachB
If starters are seen playing STs
that’s not good. That means the ST guys have been making mistakes and now we’re sending starters in their place, risking injury. It’s a scary sight having Champ subbing for Syd’Quan, especially when he’s already nursing a heel injury.
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Yep its pretty simple
Backup skill players play STs thats just the way it is. Thats the difference between a guy active and a healthy guy in sweat pants
IMO
Agreed.
That is a perfect description of the NFL (Not For Long), which is the case if you can’t play special teams. There simply aren’t enough roster spots to accommodate those that can’t.
by VC Orange Crush on Oct 7, 2010 10:59 PM MDT up reply actions
Terrell Davis played special teams as a rookie....
its all about carving out a role on the team..showing the coaches and vets you can play. Decker has yet to do this.
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Don't forget Steve Tasker - possibly the All-Time Special Teamer - was a WR
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Haha
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they should
The argument that I’ve heard on NFL channel is that STs players and kicker/punters don’t deserve consideration. I think it’s a ridiculous attitude. The value of a Tasker or Ray Guy is commensurate with their influence on winning the game. Less of the STs & K/Ps are going to deserve HOF consideration but the ones that won games (and Tasker, etc. actually did this on their own) deserve recognition for what they did.
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Re:
everyone except Prater was crossing the goalline, in a great overall effort to hustle downfield. There is no doubting the effort that the unit is showing.
They better be crossing the goal line. Otherwise they will be looking for another job ASAP.
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Jarvis Moss lost what little mojo he had going...
before he broke his hand. Moss will be lucky to make it through the end of the season on the roster IMO.
Denver first.
He hurt his hand on the fumble recovery kickoff
when he was sliding down after being blocked he pout his hand down to regain his balance, and then went off the field cradling it. However, he was in on the next return, and isn’t listed int he injury report, so maybe it was nothing…
Sometimes he reminds me of this kid I used to work with. he was very nice and likable, and a decent worker, not great, but got his job done. But he had this wierd mindset about injuries. It was like no matter what happened, it was a Significant Injury requiring Serious Attention. hit his finger with a hammer? He might not make it to work the next day. Falls down? Could be a Serious Ankle Injury. Thing was, if you were right there, you could tell him to rub some dirt on it, and he would get over it relatively quickly. He didn’t miss work, and it was never actually serious. but left to his own devices you suspect that the Forces of the Universe would overwhelm him….
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by Jeremy Bolander on Oct 7, 2010 7:56 PM MDT up reply actions
i thought he was directly responsible for Mariani's return
as he had the ability to push his man inside and funnel mariani towards the inside guys. instead he flops over and is seen falling to his right. just disappointing, but he has never been much more then “whelming”
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by Jay Fin Anderson on Oct 7, 2010 8:35 PM MDT up reply actions
yep he got totally blocked out of the play
because he was lunging for a tackle. Cox opened up the lane, but it was Moss who had a chance to put an end to the return.
Also, great effort by Bruton. I know vaughn is supposed to be faster than him, but it sure didn’t look like it on that return…
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by Jeremy Bolander on Oct 7, 2010 10:07 PM MDT up reply actions
We really miss Darrell Reid
and the injuries to Darcel McBath and Wesley Woodyard didn’t help either. Now, Spencer Larsen’s hurt or returning from an ankle injury.
I’m curious as to what McD has in mind to fix the ST coverage. Fire Prieffer? I’m sure we’re not that lucky.
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That's 4 key players we are missing...
I was going t say the same thing down below but you hit it on the head. Spencer Larsen, Darrell Reid, Wesley Woodyard and Darcel McBath being out for most of the season have hurt our STs, especially now that we have our punter Britton Colquit making excellent punts…We’ll struggle once again this week if these key players aren’t in it and it will affect the field position severely…Can we adapt to it? Giving the Ravens anything to chew on makes it that much harder to etch out a win there. Don’t lookfor any big plays from our receivers this week unless the Ravens just fall over themselves…It will be a hard fought game and the winner will be the one who executes the plays and doesn’t make mistakes…
Moss has always played to his lowest level of inefficiency!
Cut him and promote Diyral Briggs off the PS! It’s a much better gamble for increased upside on ST and OLB rotational pass rush!
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I really like Briggs
this idea has some merit…
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by Jeremy Bolander on Oct 7, 2010 10:08 PM MDT up reply actions
Briggs can play
I truly believe he could end up developing into a really good pass rusher in the 3-4
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by RockyMountainThunder on Oct 8, 2010 9:45 AM MDT up reply actions
I hope we can get some stability in special teams.....
it is frustrating to see starters having to fill in positions and risking even more injury doing that. I guess it’s part of that rookie learning curve.
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ok, i'll bite
bane of tje bedouins – this is in reference to what? Cool line, but I couldn’t find anything on this. Sounds like a star wars line to me.
enjoyed the article, btw
The reference is to the (proverbial burdensome) "straw"
That is, the one that broke the camel’s back. Thus, Bedouins hate it when straws are lying around.
makecents has it
the Bedouins are a nomadic culture in Arabian lore, and the camel is central to their lifestyle.
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by Jeremy Bolander on Oct 8, 2010 12:55 PM MDT up reply actions
Let
Cassius Vaughn return kicks. He can do it all on ST! I have the biggest mancrush on him right now!
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by the new Bradfather on Oct 7, 2010 10:04 PM MDT reply actions
He has the hot hand, no doubt
and his confidence is probably soaring right now…
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by Jeremy Bolander on Oct 7, 2010 10:09 PM MDT up reply actions
Decker
will stay with our squad special teams value or no. I’d say he replaces Gaff in the future. Jarvis Moss looks like a sack of potatoes on the football field and I will never understand how some of us (myself included) are semi-sold on him year after year. This guy is running out of excuses and I agree will probably be cut before seasons end. He was looking so promising in camp and I truely thought that he finally got it. How does a 6-8 man with his weight/speed suck so bad?
In preseason
I thought Decker played mostly from the slot. Its doubful he will get much time from Royal barring an injury. So decker is insureance against injury to any of the recievers. If Lloyd goes down, it will be Thomas moving to the #1 slot because of his speed and down field capabilities.
If Royal ior Gaffney gets hurt, Decker will see time and maybe lots of it as i view the landscape.
Wills is last on the depth chart for recievers. Its him right now that needs to be playing ST hard and well.
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In preseason.........Decker
I hope you are right about Decker being the injury replacement guy. He has not caught a pass yet during regular season but looked good against Detroit and looked great against the Vikings in preseason. He caught 10 of 11 passes in the Viking game foe 114 yards. I just hope he has not committed a faux pas with McD via Hillis style, and gets relegated to the bench regardless of his talents.
Not injured. Juste a bruised knee.
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Moss has the most potential to help the pass rush
Without him the only hope is hunter and ayers. Moss did well getting to the Qb in the offseason even when doom was healthy. If we are ever in a situation where its the 4th quarter and the other team is down trying to run the 2 min.. i think moss would be one of the guys id like to see up on the line. He has the quickest release of any of our D-lineman but has issues on running plays. In the preseason he dominated for one quarter against some team i forgot but his speed caused the tackle to false start like twice in a row. If you get that tackle to over compensate for that speed rush and then get j-williams to occupy G and C…perfect window for blitzing…I think at 6-7 his height doesn’t help on special teams he’s to easy to get leverage on.
I have been rather critical of Moss. But, then, it seems highly warranted.
I see no rational reason to keep him on the team. I would give him an injury setlement and let him go…..
Jarvis Moss
showed how good he could be in the preseason game against Detroit. However, his lack of conditioning was rather embarrassing as he was blowing chunks on the sidelines.
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by the new Bradfather on Oct 8, 2010 12:30 AM MDT reply actions
give me a break
Moss goes invisible for two games (for SCHEME reasons – dime defense for Indy, OLB run-blitzers for Tennessee), and everyone starts to want to throw him under a bus. Have some patience, he might get some playtime against Baltimore.
100% agree Tune....he had minuscule snaps against Tennessee and the Colts.
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point on attitudes
One doesn’t have to be a Kool-aid drinker to realize that attitudes regarding certain players are unduly influenced by the lack of statistics. This is hardly an endorsement of Moss’ overall play nor his STs play but it is a comment on the cognitive process that fans use to arrive at their opinions.
I’d love to have actual game film or be a fly on the wall when coaches critique performances but I’m without the information I need to make an informed opinion.
I don’t expect Moss to become a stellar STs performer, although I think it’s important that he improves in this area. That is, if he’s going to stay after this year. His most important contribution is in the area of pass rush, and it’s a very important area.
Moss’s presence on STs is attributable to his usage on defense. And this is the crux of the problem. Moss has utility as a pass rusher (although this may not produce statistics) and in pass coverage (which is very important but overlooked), but the 45 man game day active roster puts a premium on versatility, so it’s important that reserves and part-time starters (such at Larsen, the FB) play a role on STs. There’s very little room, from a mathematical perspective, for reserve players who don’t contribute on STs.
Moss is on the bubble and will stay on the bubble unless he begins to contribute. But this is also true of some other players, such as ‘squid.’ The difference between attitudes towards a player such as squid (besides upside) and those regarding Moss is the buyers’ remorse that continues to generate negative feelings. However, some positions have inordinately high value. To use an example: LT is an important position, which is why Chris Clark is on the roster. The difference between Clark’s and Moss’s situation is that Moss has been active, and thus expected to contribute on STs, whereas Clark’s position is as an emergency reserve who’s not been on the game day roster and he therefore he doesn’t impact the active list.
It’s always better to be on the 45 man game day active list than not, even if that forces a choice between players, but players who are active NEED to contribute. Brandon Stokley could still contribute on offense but his lack of STs play hurt him, and he was hurt even more by the drafting of Thomas and Decker, along with the pickup of Willis. Moss continues to be on the team because he’s our sole speed rusher but his lack of contribution on STs keeps him on the bubble.
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My enthussiam is waning from Moss.
I had some hopes spark in OTA’s/Training Camp with his play and suddenly it has once again droppd off the radar…Moss will be gone next year if he doesn’t step it up and may get on somewhere in a different mindset and be successful…
I actually thought
Moss looked alright versus the Jags, where he got a few snaps. I was swearing during the game that “this kid is gonna swat a few balls at the lines sooner or later.” He showed good instincts of when to stop pushing and get his hands up. In that game, like the preseason he looked at least servicable in the run game – at least getting in the way even if he was pushed around
Apparently later, or never, is the right answer! He truly has disappeared as the season has gone on. I wonder what happened? Whatever it is, he roster spot is definitely gonna be up for grabs if he doesn’t get it together…
I have less fear about special teams when its the young guys making mistakes that don't get repeated
Even with Decker, if a guy has natural talent and the urge to work and get reps they naturally will get better with more experience
At this point 25% into the season we also have been pretty blessed with few to non serious injuries and some degree of injuries will always happen in the NFL. So roster depth over time as the season moves along is always a long term plus for the season.
Even with the long play breakdown it seems like the special teams did better this week. Of course winning the game helps that perception too, but I hope the trend continues over time.
Who is...
“Ed McAffrey”? ;)
Many thanks for the interesting read Styg. I hope to see improvement in the performance of special teams this week. We need to get it figured out, the sooner the better.
It just didn't look right
I couldn’t figure it out! lol. Total brain freeze.
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