Broncos Should Be Putting in Waiver Claims On Moss/Merriman

Which is priority. Once we put in a claim and win, we move to the bottom of the list.

So, it would be hard to get both, so whos your priority?

I’d say Merriman then Moss (We may get lucky)

Anyone read the story about him abusing the caterers today? Not really a class act.

Plus, its time to get DT on the field.

Moss is not going to generate that high of a compensatory pick because he basically will have limited to no production this year, you got rid of a headache in BM and you bring in a guy who is basically the same guy, except older and less explosive, what will that say to the people on the team, basically you can act like a jack-ass, me first guy if you used to play for the Patriots, but if you didn’t guess what, your ass is out of here, you would kill the locker room and basically make every player who is not a former Pat hate Josh McDaniels guts to the core.

Merriman is worth a shot because he fits a need, he has something to prove, and he will get some shots on SD,

Do you think Pat Bowlen wants to shell out an extra $3.0 million for a player that will probably destroy the locker room, get the coach fired, and give you no more production or help you win any more games?

From PFF:

On the surface, Moss and Rice look like they had similar seasons last year. They saw a similar number of snaps, were separated by fewer than 60 receiving yards in the regular season, and had only one catch separating them. The difference came in how those catches came about. Rice received a PFF grade of +22.0 for his receiving work, Moss just +7.2.

Rice was thrown at 120 times in the ’09 regular season and only one interception came from those throws. Moss was thrown at 15 times more, but seven interceptions came from the throws intended for Moss.

The only players in the NFL to have more interceptions recorded when they were the primary target were Calvin Johnson (12), Carolina’s Steve Smith (11), Antonio Bryant (10), Reggie Wayne (10), and Terrell Owens (eight). Four of those five players were playing with quarterbacks (or multiple quarterbacks) who threw for 19 or more interceptions on the season. Tom Brady threw 13 interceptions last season, which means more than half of them were intended for Moss.

Of those 138 targets, Rice dropped just three balls last season. Moss dropped eight. In 2008 he dropped 11, and this season he has already registered a drop in each of his opening four games. Moss is no longer a safe target for quarterbacks looking to get rid of the ball; if anything, he is becoming more of a risk as time goes on.

Much was made of Moss getting off of Revis Island in Week 2 this season with a beautiful one-handed catch for a touchdown, but that doesn’t tell the story of that game. Moss was thrown at 10 times, recorded just one 4-yard reception outside of that touchdown, and dropped a ball. Not only that, but Brady was picked off twice in the game when throwing towards Moss.

This season, Moss has been thrown at 23 times, and recorded just nine receptions. His yards-per-reception average remains healthy at 15.4, but just three plays account for 101 of his 139 yards. His average yards per target is a flimsy 6.04 yards. The first big catch came on a quick screen against the Bengals in Week 1. The second was that one-handed catch over Revis against the Jets in Week 2. Without taking anything away from a spectacular catch, Revis was visibly troubled by his hamstring, and the Jets have since suggested there was a blown coverage on that play. His longest play from scrimmage this season was a 35-yard touchdown against the Buffalo Bills, beating coverage from Reggie Corner in the slot. Moss lined up outside with Aaron Hernandez behind him, and Corner never got into a good position, trailing the play the entire way.

I can see Merriman working out and would be a fine pick up for us at this point and really no harm no foul if it doesn’t work…I can see this but prob not Moss…I would’ve been on board a couple years ago maybe but not sure that his presence (and I’ll say I think he’s been misunderstood all this time so I don’t think he’s necess a locker room distraction outside of the media’s portrayal) would do all that well for the talented young guys we have from Eddie to Demaryius to Eric Decker…they need the time on the field!! I feel (although the fan in me says hell ya…the coach in me says not an effective decision at this time!!!) it would only exacerbate the potential (which is a bad word among coaches)being fulfilled!

Both would be that guy I hate if they play for someone else but I will be stoked to see Merriman revive his career here…btw Sayre…I’ll say it for you cuz’ I know you wanted to…he’ll be fired up to destroy the mouthy lil Phyllis Cry Me a Rivers…can you imagine having to practice with that guy everyday…he’d like that chance I’m sure being on another team…and especially on one team they hate!! Bring it on…DO IT!!!

You do know that in order to get one a team has to have a net lost in the free agency period right?

I’m curious about Schefter’s comment that a team that picks up Moss would receive a compensatory picks.

I thought compensatory picks were awarded to teams that lost a player(s) in free agency.

Would Moss want to come here if he believed that there was a strong possibility that he would be let go into free agency at the end of the year?

we had, I believe, three comp picks a few years ago…it’s been some time now!

But all your reasons were pretty much just writing off the argument, you never gave a real reason. We really don’t need him. I’d take two good lineman over Moss any day because they will help our team more then another receiver. I’m a huge Moss fan, he’s going to the Hall someday, but he won’t help this team win. We score through the air with the best of them, literially we do. Orton is tied for sixth in the NFL with 12 touchdown, we are scoring through the air, we need to be able to score on the ground, something we aren’t doing. So your logic with saying we aren’t scoring touchdowns is wrong, we are scoring through the air, the same or better then as other aerial teams like NE, Houston, Cincy, Dallas, Green Bay, and Chicago, we are scoring through the air.

Merriman yes, he helps fixes a problem, Moss no, he just makes us slightly better at our only strength.

It pains me because I hate him so, but I fully agree on Merriman. What do we have to lose at this point. We could really use the help at OLB as Jarvis Moss just isn’t that guy.

Why not on Moss as well.

We can cut Jarvis Moss and Rich Quinn or Gronk or any of the Ja-broni line scrubs like Clark, Daniels or LeKevin Smith

This may be irrelevant 24 hours from now, but can a team put in two claims? I cannot find anything that says if you claim one guy you move to the bottom of the list. I though crappy teams had first pick no matter what, or at least that’s how the rule reads.

I trust McD to make these kinds of decisions. I actually think I’ll be disappointed if we don’t put in a claim for Merriman though…we NEED ANY talent at OLB at this point.

Moss could very well be productive here.

Sometimes guys like him need something like this to refocus their lives. There’s no doubt the added fire and intensity for the 2 SD games would be pretty cool ;)

We need any semblance of a pass rush we can find, and this might just be a diamond in the rough if he truly regains his Pro Bowl form.

Regarding Moss…..You make valid points, but I would be very disappointed if we even think once about him.

I’m not sure we need Moss because Brandon Lloyd is just as good IMO.

Merriman would be a nice pickup, though. Have him replace Jarvis Moss…

I think you made a great case here for both players. I think that you do tend to jump on the big-free-agent-signing-bandwagon too quickly, but you’ve made some great points here and have changed my mind about both of these players. As a finance guy and huge fan of Warren Buffet, I also very much appreciate your point about “buy low, sell high” (or buy fear). The potential upside is significant considering that we ARE A PASSING TEAM (Moss), and WE DESPERATELY NEED HELP WITH OUR PASS RUSH (Merriman), whereas the marginal risk would be short-term and insignificant. I also feel strongly that our locker room CAN handle any negativity that Moss or Merriman might bring. Also, not only has McD already worked with Moss, but he has already worked with a diva WR IN DENVER (BMarsh) and gotten good results (100+ catches, etc).

Hell yes on Merriman. He’s good friends with Jamal not that it matters.

He was the guy who allowed him to catch 23 TD passes … as for Merriman, beggars cannot be choosers. Our defense is terrible, instead of adding other teams cast offs who have never showed any signs of talent, I do not think any of these signings can hurt. Really think about it, what is the worst thing that can happen, we lose by 45 points been there … done that. Now is the time to think outside the box, or in other words, all options are on the table.

merryman i dont like him but we need the pass rush Moss no way we have 4 WR allready

I agree with your points 3 and 5 for Moss however I believe they are offset by the need to get DT more involved. Any balls intended for Moss are lost opportunities for DT.
Would love to see Merriman here though. Sure we always hated him but when healthy and motivated he’s the kind of guy that can energize a defense and this defense needs to be energized.

I’m a visitor from Pats Pulpit just doing some spying of the rest of the league seeing who is interested in Moss.

I find it somewhat shocking how fans abroad can think “it won’t happen to us”. Randy Moss is like a man or a woman who has been married four times and you are now looking at that individual as a potential spouse! I find it particularly curious how desperate suitors can look at someone with stars in their eyes and say…. “it won’t happen to us”. It’s almost funny!

Look at it this way folks….. Ask yourselves this: Do the Broncos stand any reasonable chance of making a playoff run at this point? If your answer is NO! then why in God’s name would you want him?

I’m a die-hard Pats fan and Randy claims to be in a love affair with Belichick and the Pats. New England is probably the one place Randy could go to and be reasonbly happy and content. New England fans and the Pats franchise treated him quite well upon his return and he embraced us back. With that said, I have significant question how long he can keep that smile on his face after a few games of getting the ball thrown his way just a few times per game.

I should say “I don’t believe it”…… but I actually DO

Yes, to Merriroid. Denver really needs from 7 help and if Merriroid has anything left in the tank it can’t hurt. Plus, maybe he can give some insight to the upcoming Chargers games.

NO to Moss! Seriously?? The guy’s a cancer and a “me first” player. And we already have a guy better than Moss. His name’s Brandon Lloyd. Moss will only piss and moan when he doesn’t get as many passes as X that current week.

Merriman – no (unless the NFL stops testing for roids)

Too many clips of him jogging around on the field. The first prerequisite for any player is that they give their full effort. It should be a given that a player goes full speed whenever they’re on the field.

Merriman, I could take him or leave him. On paper he would seem to help an area of need. But he doesn’t seem to be at the level he used to be.

but I say it’s definitely worth a look, what do we have to lose? Absolutely NO to Randy Moss though, he has no business being in our corps of wide receivers.

Is that he won’t be there…..Bills, Cowboys,Panthers, 9ers are in front of us. Can’t imagine that 2 or 3 of those teams don’t claim him. I could be wrong but the likelihood that he gets that far down the list isn’t good at all.

   I hate the guy. He is a cancer in the locker room, and a genuinely crappy human being. RM is TO, without the production this season. If we could immediately trade him for a 2nd rounder? Maybe. (And I mean immediately, I don’t even want him in a broncos uniform.)
   Merriman is a long way from his old dominant self, but he still has some quickness, and might be a worthwhile pick up for his pass rushing ability. We definitely need somebody to put pressure on the QB.

  I am aware there are no trades this season, but I didn’t put it in there… Either way I stay fast, if we could trade him, maybe, but since it’s not an option, I say no to Moss.

Shawne Merriman — SF, Miami, Baltimore.

The Ravens are intersted?? What gives?!

It could be a smokescreen, I guess. But if Merriroid is good enough for the Ravens, he sure as heck is good enough for Denver. Wake up, McX!