To Rebuild or Not?
The last couple days I have been thinking if the Broncos are in rebuilding mode, or if we already have a strong core to build around. To me, teams should always be built around the Offensive and Defensive Lines. After drafting three Offensive Linemen and re-signing one, I believe that the Broncos have a foundation for their Offensive Line. Clady, Kuper, and Harris are all soild, and I think that both Olsens and Beadles will turn out to be good players. The only problem is injuries. The Defensive Line on the other hand is awful in my eyes. I don't always think that blowing up the roster is a terrible thing. If McDaniels would have done a better job at drafting, we would have a very solid foundation right now. Instead, he made some questionable picks. Lets look at the past.
2009: Needs: DL, LB, S, HB, OL
Draft Picks- (Players that we could've had)
Round 1 #12: HB Knowshon Moreno- (DE/OLB Brian Orakpo, Brian Cushing)
Analysis: I personally never understood this pick. We already signed Correll Buckhalter and we already had Peyton Hillis. We needed help in the front 7.... so we decide to draft a running back...
Round 1 #18: DE/OLB Robert Ayers (OLB Clay Matthews)
Analysis: I don't exactly blame McDaniels for this pick because it's hard to see who will be able to transition from a 4-3 DE into a 3-4 OLB, but it sure would've been nice to have Clay Matthews instead.
Round 2 #5: CB Alphonso Smith (ILB Rey Maualuga, CB Jairus Byrd)
Analysis: In my eyes, the dumbest thing that McDaniels did was trade our 2010 first round pick to the Seahawks for a 2009 second round pick which ended up to be Alphonso Smith... who is currently with the Detroit Lions.
Round 2 #16: S Darcel McBath (G Max Unger, T Phil Loadholt, DT Fili Moala, T Sebastian Vollmer)
Analysis: I think McBath can be a good safety in the future, and I actually liked this pick.
Round 2 #32: TE Richard Quinn (HB Shonn Greene, CB Bradley Fletcher, WR Mike Wallace)
Analysis: Also one of the dumber things that McDaniels did.. I understand he wanted a blocking TE for our scheme, but why trade up to round 2 when we could have him in the 6th?
So, after the first 3 rounds, we could have technically had DE/OLB Brian Orakpo, OLB Clay Matthews, ILB Rey Maualuga, G Max Unger, and HB Shonn Greene.
Now lets look at 2010..
Draft Picks- (Players We Could've Had)
2010 Team Needs: LB, WR, TE, DL, CB
Round 1
#22: WR Demaryius Thomas- (NT Dan Williams, CB Devin McCourty, WR Dez Bryant, HB Jahvid Best)
Analysis: After trading Brandon Marshall, I understand Josh McDaniels pick. I personally think Thomas shows a lot of promise, the only problem is keeping him healthy.
Round 1 #25: QB Tim Tebow- (NT Dan Williams, CB Devin McCourty, HB Jahvid Best, DT Brian Price)
Analysis- To me, this was a bad pick. After going 8-8 in 2009, the Broncos surely didn't have the luxury of acquiring a project. In the first round, I feel as if you need to draft a player that can contribute soon if not immediately.
Round 2 #13: OL Zane Beadles- (ILB Daryl Washington, NT Linval Joseph, ILB Brandon Spikes)
Analysis- A good pick to me, Zane has shown promise this season.
Round 3 #16: OL J.D. Walton- (WR Emmanuel Sanders, DT Corey Peters, QB Colt McCoy, WR Jordan Shipley)
Analysis- A good pick to me, Walton has been good for the toughest position on the OL, and it's only going to get better.
Round 3 #23: WR Eric Decker- (TE Tony Moeaki, WR Mike Williams, CB Alterraun Verner)
Analysis- What seems to be a good pick to me, Decker was a beast in college but he didn't play his senior year due to injury. I'm still excited to see what he can bring to the table once he gets his chance.
So, after the past two years in the top 3 rounds, we could've ended up with DE/OLB Brian Orakpo, OLB Clay Matthews, ILB Rey Maualuga, OG Max Unger, HB Shonn Greene, WR Demaryius Thomas, CB Devin McCourty, OG Zane Beadles, OC J.D. Walton, and WR Eric Decker.
I personally would prefer this group over our current group, but you can't go back in time.
Can you imagine our OL consisting of:
LT: Ryan Clady, LG: Max Unger, C: J.D. Walton, RG: Chris Kuper, RT Ryan Harris. With the most diverse OL in Zane Beadles as a backup?
Or can you imagine our Linebackers consisting of:
LOLB: Clay Matthews/Brian Orakpo, ILB: Rey Maualuga, ILB: DJ Williams, ROLB: Elvis Dumervil/ Brian Orakpo
Or how about our Secondary consisting of:
CB: Champ Bailey, CB: Devin McCourty/Andre Goodwin, FS: Brian Dawkins/ David Bruton, SS: Renaldo Hill/ Darcel McBath
The list goes on and on... I personally don't think we have enough on the team right now build around. Our offensive line is solid, our receivers are solid... but that's just about it. I think we need to get a lot younger, and there's no better way of doing that than through the draft. If it's done right, we'll have an extremely solid young team for decades to come.
I believe that it might be beneficial for the Broncos to blow up the roster again and try to rebuild. For me, right now the best young players to build around are: OT Ryan Clady, OG Chris Kuper, C J.D. Walton, OG Zane Beadles, OT Ryan Harris, WR Demaryius Thomas, WR Eddie Royal, WR Eric Decker, S David Bruton, S Darcel McBath, and LB Elvis Dumervil. Other than that, everyone on our team i'd be willing to part ways with. I know that it'll be tough to part ways with Champ, but I'd like to see us get younger, and most of all I'd love to see him to get a championship, unfortunately it won't be with the Broncos. I feel the same way about Dawkins too.
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A true statement...
I don’t think the “win now” is a viable option.
by charlesnelsonreilly on Dec 12, 2010 1:26 PM MST up reply actions
I think the offense is in pretty good shape...
Say what you will about the draft picks, but Moreno is starting to get it going and seems to be a good runner, receiver and apparently good on blitz pickup so he can be a three down back.
Tebow wasn’t that big a deal since we ended up with the same number of picks in that draft. We basically traded back to get him. Not a huge sacrifice.
But the O-line is set, receivers are good, RB’s might be OK if LenDale can come back and be a decent backup, might need a TE.
The defense is what needs to be blown up.
The secondary is trending way down. The front 4 can’t trend down because they are already at the bottom.
I think if we fix those things, we might be moving in a good direction.
by charlesnelsonreilly on Dec 12, 2010 11:16 AM MST reply actions
Time to clean house.
Get what you can from Orton, Lloyd, Gaffney, DJ Williams, and Champ. Keep our young, and very good OL. Start building by focusing on the front 7 on D. Trade back if we are in the top 10. There are plenty of very good DL in this draft. We can get great value anywhere in the draft.
Tere are plenty of good DL
But there is only a few star DL and we need a Suh type player.
by Jake Edmisten on Dec 12, 2010 11:38 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
would you rather
have a couple solid starter quality D-Linemen, or a bunch of rotational D-Linemen and one superstar?
by higgyhoops12 on Dec 12, 2010 11:52 AM MST up reply actions
I'd rather have a star and backups...
One really disruptive guy can do a lot. Look at Peppers in Chicago, or Freeney in Indy (although they have some other good players).
We’ve done the bunch of decent guys here and it doesnt work.
by charlesnelsonreilly on Dec 12, 2010 11:54 AM MST up reply actions
Agreed
Also having one star guy makes everyone better since he demands so much attention.
Mathis is pretty good in Indy too.
by higgyhoops12 on Dec 12, 2010 12:00 PM MST up reply actions
Also want star and backups.
Bannan and Vickerson have done pretty well against the run and them rotating on one side with Fairley or Dareus on the other and we have multiple pass rushers (fairly/Dareus, Doom, Ayers) and run stoppers (Ayers,Bannan/Vickerson, DJ, Mays) and that makes our secondary better also.
by Jake Edmisten on Dec 12, 2010 12:26 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Coulda/Woulda/Shoulda... this doesn't help our current state of affairs.
Along this line of thinking, we should have been smart enough to draft Tom Brady, back in the day. It would have been nice to score a number of players, but that’s the thing about the draft… it’s unpredictable. For every Ryan Leaf, there’s a Terrell Davis.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
Win while rebuilding
Losing is a desease. It is very easy to catch and very hard to cure. The only cure for losing is winning. Let’s win every single game we are capable of winning – get the guys believing they can. Someone correct me if I am wrong – but the 96/97 defense was titled the no-name defense – snubbed in the pro bowl – but wearing rings today. Believing is a dangerous thing – a Knife that cuts both ways.
"blow up the roster" -no
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by Sergio AppleSeed on Dec 12, 2010 12:31 PM MST reply actions
In hidsight its easy to draft
but I dont think we fully know what we got out of these drafts yet. I mean others teams might make a list like this someday and include Ayers or McBath or Moreno or thomas,decker,tebow,walton
I dont think we drafted any immediate studes(pun), we were planning for the future a bit too much and maybe this is what got McD fired you know? so when someone say McD screwed up the smith trade you could say yea but we got ____ & _.
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by Sergio AppleSeed on Dec 12, 2010 12:36 PM MST reply actions
seriously stop slagging
the moreno pick i think he is a good back at the time of the draft mcd was looking for a star player on offense we had just traded cutler and had no running back from the year before i think moreno was the right pick he has been our top playmaker since he got healthy from the hamstring injury
He's played good in two games.
Both against the Chiefs
by higgyhoops12 on Dec 12, 2010 1:13 PM MST up reply actions
i think u need to check most yards from scrimmage on our team since the raiders loss moreno is also a good pass catching rb also since week 10 only jones drew has more yards from scrimmage i think u need to check the facts before saying that because this team as a whole has not looked good but there have been some impressive individual stats from a few players like loyd and champ
lloyd is two l's
i think you need to check the facts before using his name
by higgyhoops12 on Dec 12, 2010 3:54 PM MST up reply actions
u know what i was tryin to say i am not gonna argue with a fellow bronco fan i just think moreno is one of the only bright spots on our team
after they way he's been playing the last few weeks, yes.
but from the last two years in review, no. I do think after the last couple weeks his future does look bright though.
by higgyhoops12 on Dec 12, 2010 5:31 PM MST up reply actions
I never liked the hindsight thinking. I went back and read some of the articles from back then and while people loved Orakpo, it was also frequently mentioned that he was undersized and more of a pass-rushing specialist, when that was probably the one part of our front seven that wasn’t a dire need.
When didn't we need a pass rush besides when Doom emerged?
You have to remember that going into 2009-2010, we didn’t know that Dumervil was going to turn into an excellent 3-4 OLB, which is why we drafted Ayers.
by higgyhoops12 on Dec 12, 2010 1:12 PM MST up reply actions
Rebuild or Not? What do you call a 3-10 team?
We must rebuild cause if we don’t we will be 3-10 every year. Looking at what we could have done differently in the draft is just depressing and pointless. Everyone is an expert analyst when looking at the past. It makes no sense to dwell on what McD could have done differently especially now that he’s gone and we can worry about the mistakes our next coach will make.

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