Silver Linings for Denver Broncos Fans

Today was an eye opener. I am baffled about the whole Tebow thing. Maybe he gets a whole week gameplan and starts in the black hole. Our rookie D backs are looking improved even though one might be gone. another solid draft and a revamped FO and coaching staff sky is the limit. Good bye KO.

It failed Shanny….and why they thought t would work for McD is anyone’s guess.

that Orton has any significant trade value at all?

Who is Studsville kidding? Does he think he has ANY shot of being the head coach next year? Because newsflash dude, the chances of that are somewhere between 0 and -35%. We can’t let a coach hinder our chance to test Tebow out because he’s in a “win now to get a job” mentality.

Even if you’re not a huge Tebow supporter (I’m lukewarm on him myself) that has to be the move. Does he give us a better chance of winning right now? Probably not. But you know what, that’s a good thing! Winning anymore games this season negatively impacts this team’s long-term future. There’s a substantial difference between picking 3rd in every round and picking in the 8-11 range.

It’s easy to focus on the negative and angry posts after a tough loss are going to be a dime a dozen. While many people are going to disagree with your take on things and comment on how off-the-mark you are, few people will look at the upside of all this.

Thanks for staying positive! No where to go but up…in the draft. And who doesn’t love a good season of mock drafts and front office speculation?

People can disagree with a point here and there (I agree with almost all of yours fwiw) but there are some things to keep us from jumping off the ledge ;-) But they all start with who they hire to run the front office, and to be GM, those guys will pick the coach and the three of them will make those picks. So while it’s exciting to at least know they’ll be getting premium access to some great players next year, they have to have the right guys making those decisions. So those are the first things of business. For us it will be fun to mock draft and hope for some great additional help to go along the young players we think will be keepers. This team may end up winning only 4 games or so this season but they may not be so far away from turning that around either. There are plenty of other teams that serve as examples of that in recent seasons.

But again, it starts with the top, who is hired to run the show, and hope it is not going to be Ellis, and presumably a new GM, and a new coach. We need them to go 3 for 3 there before we can hope they go 9 for 9 (or however many picks they have) in the draft.

Onwards!

can anyone else confirm that?

Honestly, today convinced me that it was the right call to fire McDaniels. The offense is far too complicated and McD was the only guy that could hold it together with duct tape and twine. It might be that Brady is the only guy in the league smart and talented enough to be able to run it, and once McD realized this (if he ever did) he just had to stick with the plan for as long as possible until he got fired.

Don’t give up on our team! I beg you, I beg you sir, to watch every last game until the final whistle blows….sir!

I love my team, it painful to watch all the negativety but I will not give up on my team.

looks like we have some pieces in the secondary..
- Squid, Bruton, Cox all looked good
-Vick looked good tonight loved the explosion off the snap and the near sack on the breaston throw was great
Anyways i agree that the 2010 draft might be one of our better ones but we made some blunders in 09. Not just the phonz thing but giving up what we did for quinn as well..

the difference between good and bad in the NFL is ca couple stud players. I ove our OL but I think our D’s front 7 need a revamp I have never not watched a game but watching KO next week against the raiders does not excite me but I know I will watch. If Tebow doesn’t play the stands will be empty at home for the last 2 games. I have never seen that in the history of the Broncos post 1975 that’s 35 years they are no longer the only ticket in town. Isn’t it wild that the NFL leader in Jersey sales never gets to play.

I’m cautiously optimistic on the future, with a BIG emphasis on cautiously.

I posted this elsewhere, but unless it’s announced on Tues. that Tebow is now the starter all my optimism, however, will pretty much be gone. It makes ZERO sense now to not start Tebow. Orton’s got nothing left and his trade value is only going down, down, down.

Do the head coaches in Denver actually think they’re fooling us with Kyle Orton? We all know Tebow needs to be starting, so why do they continue with this “Orton gives us the best chance to win ball games” bull sh*t. Newsflash: We just got our asses completely handed to us by a team that hasn’t won a game in 7 weeks! Orton didn’t to anything in helping us win a ballgame.

There needs to be a line drawn where you fully admit the season is lost, and that time is now. We have absolutely nothing to lose, and Tebow is our future so it is time to give him a chance.

I also agree with most of this post, except for the belief that firing McDaniels was the wrong thing to do and your whole “I’m refusing to support this organization until Tebow starts” whine fest. How can you even say you’re refusing to watch any more games and be a writer of this blog at the same time? For that matter, how can you even say you’re a fan if you’re gonna bail that easy? Nothing personal there Mr. Lynch, but if you’re gonna put yourself in the spotlight, you better be prepared for the consequences.

You’re a pro.

" I have moved on to 2011 and until the Broncos join me, I’ll just participate in the game threads here and avoid watching the Broncos live. I still care, but I also know when it is time to begin looking ahead."

Its not loud (yet) but I’m starting to see some “draft luck” comments….

I really, really hope this doesn’t happen (not sure it realistically would anyways)

There is no possible way Orton gives this team the best shot to win…Tim Tebow has the ability to create plays amd that alone gives the Broncos a better shot of winning versus having Orton under center…The NFL has solved Orton and our passing game, defenses are no longer sitting back and giving Orton time and corners are right in our receivers faces because they know Orton cannot extend plays therefore they do not have to worry about getting beat on big plays because Orton will not buy himself and the O enough time to make a play.

That sums it up for me completely. We gain nothing from starting Orton now and we could really help the future of our franchise by starting Tebow. I can see why the staff has chose to do this, but if the FO doesnt have the balls to force them to start Tebow then they shouldnt be around anymore

I disagree with you on his departure. Sure, he’s not happy, but if he didnt leave when we traded the you-know-who’s why would he leave now? Plus, someone found a quote of him saying he hopes to play with Tebow as QB before he retires, so if this new regime shows that they have the intention of starting Tebow that might help bring him back

I’m not saying this as a fan, but from a football standpoint does the starting CB duo of aging Goodman and clearly still young Cox sounds even average? No thanks, lets keep him for at least another year or so till we settle the future of that spot, or until Cox and maybe Squid prove they’re ready for full time duty.

I do worry about how effective Doom will be though, if there is football in 2011. I would not expect him to be 100% right away.

Not getting into the ‘09 and ’10 drafts as those are always polarizing topics, I do wish we hadn’t traded 2 draft picks to bring in Lawrence Maroney. Having 8 picks in the next draft instead of 6 would make me feel a lot better about hopefully finishing what McX started.

It’s hard to be excited until we know who will be the future GM / HC tandem.

in the midst of a historically bad season, it is kind of crazy to hear that McD made superb personnel moves and drafted like a king. That whole argument has been hashed over repeatedly. I know you won’t change your mind and will continue to comment and post what you think. So will I…and we will disagree.

But like you…I am feeling pretty positive about the Broncos right now. Just for different reasons. I’m feeling real good right now, because I feel like we can now move on from one of this organizations greatest failures ever…hiring coach McD. I was surprised at the firing last week (thought it would come at the end of the season), but since it happened, I feel like we can now move forward with getting our Broncos back from Patriot West hell. I’m excited to find our new coach. I’m excited for thoughtful approach to the draft. I’m excited for the revised FO structure we will see put in place. And I’m excited to be excited about the Broncos again…even after a thrashing like today. These last 4 games will mean very little to how the Broncos will be constructed in the coming years.

I don’t agree with the idea that Wink has done very well…his D may have performed ok in the first half, but really…shouldn’t a defense perform well against a team that had lost 7 in a row? The Cards…with a rookie QB…were able to perform their jobs and score points.

That sums up better than in other article how i feel on the Broncos right now!!

Okay Denver fans, you wanted McD out, you got it! Here it is! This game is clear evidence that McDaniels was not the problem. The problem is this team just flat out stinks. You can’t coach if your team is no good. Firing him WAS a kneejerk reaction and a mistake. If you didn’t like his personnel moves, fine, take his power away and give it to a GM. When it comes to coaching though, we just got killed by Skelton and the freakin’ Cardinals…

I just had to get that off my chest. I didn’t like the firing from the beginning, and I dislike it even more now. What’s done is done though. Now, please put Tebow in. What the heck is there to lose? Orton looked like he was lost last week, and even more this week. Why is he still playing when the season has clearly been over??

Since ive seen Orton be compared to Brees, Brady, Manning, Favre, etc what the heck…I think in practice Orton looks smooth just as he does when a play goes perfectly(blocking, timing, wr separation) and Tebow might not look as crisp…I remember Elway struggling with passes as simple as screens at times but he had all the intangibles and was always able to find a “zone” when it mattered most. It is obvious Orton does not have anything close to this type of “zone” when the game is on the line so lets see if Tebow does.

But does anyone know where I can get a Tebow nameplate for an authentic jersey…my Brandon Marshall authentic has been retired in my closet next to my Cutler and Javon Walker jerseys…speaking of which im also in the market for a Lloyd nameplate as well…what the heck, maybe even a Brister, lol

If the Broncos keep losing, we will keep losing the trolls and band wagon jumpers that have plagued MHR for the past few years. So ya know…there’s that.

We need a Tight End to help get the third downs!

Orton should sit down and let Tebow take the ball. It will help with Orton’s trade value (today’s game sure as hell didn’t) and give Tebow the time he needs to develop without being in a race for anything.

Keep the Winkster. The defense has shown some good work of late, despite the crappy offense leaving them on the field the whole game.

it is very evident by the look on his face and his tired body language. He is just plain done, maybe the McD firing and his continued poor performance have finally just sunk in. It’s over folks, for this season anyway. Let Tim Tebow have the last few games as a training ground, or a proving ground. But, put him IN. Orton doesn’t want to be there, and most likely has not been mentally in the game for several weeks now. (IMO). Tebow has heart, talent and WANTS to play, WANTS to WIN and WANTS a chance to show the team who drafted him, the team he belongs too, that he is a BRONCO! Why does he have the #1 NFL jersey, because of the fans like me, who want to see Tim Tebow play QB in the NFL! He has exactly what the Broncos need, HEART! He has already proven he can lead a football team, let him have a chance at leading the Broncos, we are in desperate need of a never give up winning attitude. And that is exactly what Tim Tebow wants! The fans want Tim Tebow to have his shot, why not, he is a BRONCO, he wants to prove himself, LET HIM!

I don’t agree with a lot of it. But I am not going to go in to that. I don’t know how you (Mr. Lynch) can say you won’t watch anymore. As a Bronco fan that is literally impossible! At least for me. I am going to watch football during football season. It may as well be my team. Right? That is pretty “fair weather” and it doesn’t sit well with me..You can’t write about them, blog about them. If you don’t watch your team. That is like me saying Grey’s Anatomy is a great show! Even though I have never seen it..

I am all for letting a young QB develop before putting him in there, however Orton has been horrible the past two games so we need to at least see what Tebow can do. This is another one-sided game where he should have seen some reps in the fourth quarter.

Unfortunately I can’t find any silver lining to anything right now. It just seems like the players just aren’t giving it their all out there. I mean how many times have we been on the losing side of a blowout? Their season is over so you think they would be playing for pride. I guess now. Next week will show us a lot when it comes to pride.

Three more weeks til we find out if upper management will try to fix their mistakes.

Regardless of my level of agreement with your opinion on the firing of McD I appreciate your positive attitude. This has been a humbling season for us and we needs optimism.

Orton injured Tebow to start next week(blindsided by Champ) I can dream can’t I ?

Draft posturing by McDaniels and Xanders, last time I looked, we traded away most of our picks this year for some crappy players, not very good draft posturing, (IMO), and we don’t have alot of picks to work with.

Front seven is set? Really, aside from Dumervil return, there is noone on the front seven that I think is secure, we honestly need to address the front seven in a hurry. I know one draft isn’t going to solve the problem, but this defense is giving up close to 30pts a game, a main reason is the front seven can’t pressure the QB or stop the run consistently.

Unless it is, “Broncos owner Pat Bowlen ordered security to keep Ellis and Xander out of the Broncos’ Dove Valley facility.”

I wish I could still watch, but the Salt Lake affiliate refuses to even show the Broncos anymore.

By doing that, aren’t you not only becoming a bandwagon fan, but somewhat trying to force Bowlen to do exactly what you’re upset about him doing? That being making team decisions based on fan outrage?

I’m starting to come around on Orton. I still think he’s pretty good and can improve… and this week not having McD calling plays really really hurt him… but still, 3 picks?

I really like Tebow. I hate the fact that we aren’t going to let him develop naturally, as a backup and bit player until he gets everything down in practice to the point it is natural to him and he doesn’t revert to bad habits under pressure. Orton should be our QB still, and we should stick to our QB plan that the team obviously has – start Orton, with Tebow developing as a backup.
If we throw Tebow in these next 3 weeks and evaluate his “starter potential” based on those games, he will likely do poorly and we will want somebody else next year, which will put us in this terrible cycle of trying out new leaders until one happens to have enough good games early that we are willing to stick with them. Not good. Good teams stick with the plan until it has had enough chance to succeed, not abandon it at the first adversity (and 2 bad games, plus a poor year on 3rd down/red zone, is “first adversity” for Orton).

Tim, I appreciate much of your viewpoint, especially the fact that it is at this point ludicrous that they haven’t at least given Tebow some meaningful snaps (and I still like KO). However, I just don’t buy this whole “fan and media driven frenzy” that led to McD’s firing. His performance got him fired. As a coach. As a GM. And in terms of being an unethical professional. Period. Now he has left whomever takes over, hopefully a combination of strong front office and coaching staff personnel, with a fricken cesspool of ineptitude to clean up.

I feel sorry for Studesville. Anyone in his position would be in for a long 4 weeks. And even if and when he does play Tebow, I have a feeling the end results aren’t going to be much different. Unfortunately, we will probably just get a chance to see why he hasn’t played.

John Gruden has worked with Tebow and fells that he is a NFL QB and just plain and simple a winner. Lets start the the rebuilding and start Tebow.