Denver Broncos News: Horse Tracks - 12/16/10
by John Bena on Dec 16, 2010 8:11 AM MST
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Broncos' Tebow, Quinn do drills while Orton stands aside - The Denver Post
As the Broncos began their first practice in preparation for Sunday's game at Oakland, only two of the team's three quarterbacks held footballs in their hands.
Paige: Hirings have to be rush jobs - The Denver Post
Fewer than 30 shopping days remain until the Broncos will choose a new general manager, then a new coach.
Broncos' GM search may mean empowering Xanders - The Denver Post
The NFL held one-day meetings in the Dallas area, and it's hardly surprising that Broncos owner Bowlen and chief operating officer Ellis were there. What may be significant is the third guy who tagged along: Brian Xanders, the Broncos' general manager. At the very least, Bowlen and Ellis are judging Xanders separately from former coach Josh McDaniels.
A horse race without the Bronco - The Denver Post
A look at the AFC West Division race with three games remaining:
Analysis: Defenses have decided to focus on Denver's passing game - The Denver Post
For almost as long as there has been football, there has been an overwhelmed defensive coordinator saying he had to stop somebody's run game in order for his team to win.
Q&A: Don't look for the Broncos to draft Stanford quarterback Andrew Luck - The Denver Post
Q: If the Carolina Panthers end up with the No. 1 pick in the 2011 NFL draft, do you think the Broncos could trade up with them to draft Stanford quarterback Andrew Luck? Or do you think the Panthers will keep the pick and draft Luck?
Judge to hear arguments about whether file on Broncos' Cox should be made public - The Denver Post
A judge this morning will hear arguments on whether the file in the Perrish Cox sex assault case should be made public.
NFL.com news: Playoff positioning on the line in exciting Week 15 schedule
Week 15 key for playoff positioning
NFL.com news: McKay: League should revisit playoff seeding system
Rich McKay, Atlanta Falcons president and co-chair of the NFL Competition Committee, said Wednesday at the league's owners meetings that he would like to see playoff teams re-seeded, with division winners not necessarily granted a home game.
NFL.com news: Often-overlooked McCoy might be Eagles' key to postseason run
It's easy to look at the Philadelphia Eagles' offense and only see Michael Vick throwing (when he isn't running) and DeSean Jackson catching and the ball moving from one end of the field to the other in a blink.
NFL.com news: Jets suspend Alosi indefinitely for telling players to form wall
Alosi, the Jets' strength and conditioning coach, was suspended indefinitely by the team Wednesday after he acknowledged that he told five inactive players to stand next to each other for a punt return, during which he tripped Miami Dolphins rookie cornerback Nolan Carroll.
NFL.com news: Logistics being worked out for Vikes game at TCF Bank Stadium
Backed by dump trucks and loaders, dozens of workers hoisting shovels and blowers attacked the snowdrifts covering the University of Minnesota's stadium Wednesday in a determined push to have it ready to replace the snow-damaged Metrodome for Monday night's game between the Vikings and Chicago Bears.
NFL.com news: Chiefs QB Cassel returns to practice; status for Sunday unclear
Kansas City Chiefs general manager Scott Pioli told NFL Network insider Jason La Canfora that Matt Cassel's ability to do some work at practice Wednesday "was encouraging," but the team will continue to closely monitor the quarterback this week.
New York Jets coach Sal Alosi acted alone? Not buying it - ESPN New York
Sal the Tripper became the fall guy, the casualty of a transparent cover-up attempt by the New York Jets. This was a hoot, even by Jets standards.
Roger Goodell thinks CBA deal could be done by Super Bowl - ESPN
NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell said Tuesday a new labor agreement could be in place by the Super Bowl "if we all commit to it and work hard at it."
Sources: Stadium for Minnesota Vikings-Chicago Bears a fluid situation - ESPN
The same winter weather that rendered the Metrodome unusable for the Minnesota Vikings' game against the Chicago Bears on Monday night may derail plans of playing at the University of Minnesota's open-air stadium and cause the game to move indoors to Indianapolis.
Marvin Lewis plays down Terrell Owens' criticism of Cincinnati Bengals - ESPN
Marvin Lewis defended Terrell Owens on Wednesday after the receiver pointed a finger at the Cincinnati Bengals coaching staff for the team's lousy season. The rest of the players just shrugged.
Dallas Cowboys' Anthony Spencer fined for helmet hit on Michael Vick - ESPN Dallas
For weeks Philadelphia has been upset at the number of unnecessary hits quarterback Michael Vick has taken. The Eagles finally were heard.
Green Bay Packers coach not optimistic about QB Aaron Rodgers - ESPN
Green Bay Packers coach Mike McCarthy didn't sound too optimistic when it came to the question of whether quarterback Aaron Rodgers, who suffered a concussion last week against the Detroit Lions, would be able to play Sunday night against the Patriots at Gillette Stadium.
Giants' Steve Smith out for rest of season with knee injury - NFL - SI.com
Giants receiver Steve Smith is out for the rest of the season with an injury to his left knee.
New York Jets QB Mark Sanchez says he needs to be 'thick-skinned' - NFL - SI.com
The doubts and criticisms are piling up, and Mark Sanchez knows it.
Browns' Colt McCoy back practicing with starting offense - NFL - SI.com
Browns rookie quarterback Colt McCoy will take snaps with Cleveland's starting offense in practice and could start Sunday in Cincinnati.
Cincinnati Bengals try to get season ticket holders with popcorn - Paul Daugherty - SI.com
"After another excellent draft class, the addition of Antonio Bryant, and arrival of Terrell Owens, the 2009 AFC North champions are looking to have an even better 2010 season, and we would love for you to join us again! For a limited time only, if you purchase new Season Tickets, you will receive a voucher for a free box of popcorn. ..''
There are a lot of memories buried in Minnesota's Metrodome - Steve Rushin - SI.com
If you're not from there, you think the Midwest is composed of interchangeable parts. A CNN graphic last weekend showed heavy snow in "Minneapolis, Wisconsin." An ABC studio host told a freezing correspondent in Minnesota: "Sorry about that, Chicago!" When people ask if Marquette University is in Michigan, and I tell them my alma mater is in Milwaukee, they sometimes say: "What's the difference?"
Jets no longer having fun with Rex Ryan, Mark Sanchez and company - Damon Hack - SI.com
One month later, there are no cigars burning for the Jets, though they might opt for a smoke flare. The team that has spent the season squarely in the spotlight has tumbled in consecutive weeks in remarkable fashion. Two weeks ago, in a game billed as the season's biggest, the New England Patriots spent three hours pummeling them on national television.
Don't rule out four-way tie in NFC West - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
For the first time since Derek Anderson’s(notes) Fatwa Against Funny in the Arizona desert late last month, the NFL’s most pathetic division will be back in the national spotlight Thursday when the 49ers face the Chargers at Qualcomm Stadium.
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That Bengals popcorn article, wow.
This is why as bad as things get with the Broncos we will always still be able to look down at the Bengals. The fact that I am paying tax dollars to enrich that trust fund baby jackwad Mike Brown never ceases to anger me.
Maybe the Tebow era bill begin on Sunday
Then again… Who knows? I’d like to see if he can play as many of us do. As far as the owners meeting goes, I was surprised they took Xanders to Dallas. It makes it appear they wish to keep him as GM. With this ownership I have a hard time trying to understand any move Pat Bowlen makes anymore.
We conquered this territory with our bodies and souls, then we watered it with our tears.
Go Denver!
I meant will begin ooops
We conquered this territory with our bodies and souls, then we watered it with our tears.
Go Denver!
I support the Harbaugh idea.
But then again I support hiring anyone who isn’t Jim Fassel or on T.V.
Maybe we can tank the season, get the first pick, hire Elway, hire Harbaugh and draft Andrew Luck. We could have Standford people all the way through.
"West Coast Seattle boy-The Jimi Hendrix Anthology-" Get it.
and trade for Gerhardt
"And on the 8th day, God created Tim Tebow. And He saw that it was good. And He said, "I can now retire. Go forth and make Touchdowns through Running and Passing."
-Harvey J. Neptune
or just yank him off the bus while the Vikings franchise is moving to LA...
Seriously though, i despise the idea of drafting another QB in the first round, although I would warm up to anyone we draft…
"And on the 8th day, God created Tim Tebow. And He saw that it was good. And He said, "I can now retire. Go forth and make Touchdowns through Running and Passing."
-Harvey J. Neptune
by JALefor on Dec 16, 2010 12:41 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
With ya there
Draft another QB? Does not compute.
A pessimist sees the difficulties in every opportunity.
An optimist sees the opportunities in every difficulty.
- Winston Churchill
First (and only, in our lifetimes) team to three consecutive SB wins!!!! ( =
by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Dec 16, 2010 4:00 PM MST up reply actions
I seriously doubt we will draft a qb Gr3
It makes no sense to waste a high draft pick on a qb. When we trade Orton we still have a pretty decent OLine in place with a little tweeking. And whatever we get from that trade, along with our alotted high pick, will be used to build up our DLine. It just makes no sense to think otherwise. I will admit, however, that the ownership certainly has done several things that make no sense (ha ha) at all. The bottom line is: Denver needs to build up the DLine and that’s what we will see come draft time.
We conquered this territory with our bodies and souls, then we watered it with our tears.
Go Denver!
No offense meant...
But you speak in absolutes. Unless you are doing the drafting for the Broncos, we have to admit that we really have no idea what they are going to do at draft time. We can generally agree that they need to build the DLine, but no one knows for sure what we’re gonna get when it comes right down to it.
Thanks John!
It appears we are sticking with Xanders. I am pleased with that. The big question is will we be looking for an offensive minded or defensive minded HC? Preliminary reports would make us believe Offensive again. I hope not. If they go a D-minded HC, is he a 3-4 guy or 4-3 guy? Many of the good prospects are 4-3 types.
managed the salary cap
got rid of the dead money and made the team more financially responsible that’s all.
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
My ship finally came in, but it was the Kobayashi Maru.
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by KaptainKirk on Dec 16, 2010 12:24 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Afraid you are going to see that dead money go up again in 2011 when we cut Graham, Gaffney, Buck and Dawkins. Maybe a few more like Hill and Goodman.
Our salary cap is more back in line with being low because we have very few guys worthy of a second major contract. That’s pretty much Shanny’s fault.
The angry fans and Woody Paige didn't get McDaniels fired, a lack of improvement, 3-9, several losing streaks, Spygate II, empty seats, too many home losses, several bad blowouts, botched personnel decisions and the endless drama did the trick.
What on earth
makes you think We would cut Gaffney or Dawk?
A pessimist sees the difficulties in every opportunity.
An optimist sees the opportunities in every difficulty.
- Winston Churchill
First (and only, in our lifetimes) team to three consecutive SB wins!!!! ( =
by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Dec 16, 2010 4:01 PM MST up reply actions
I like him.
I don’t think he had a role in any of the turmoil of the last two years. Besides we are going to need one hell of a good salary type guy while paying 3 HCs and an extra front office guy. Good thing after we let Champ go and dump Dawkins and Graham most of the salaries are reasonable. I could have missed a few, but you get my point. Have you looked at the structure of last years 1st round contracts?
Gruden says 49ers, Broncos, and Cowboys
I think Cowboys have their coach in Garrett, so it’s between us and the 49ers? With Tebow on our roster I gotta believe he would love a chance to give it a go here. The question is, do we want him?
After living in Tampa... I have to say no.
Gruden was a great Xs and Os guy, but a megalomaniac who couldn’t get along with his players. Sound familiar?
Gruden used Mike Alstott sparingly, as a fullback, which is not his natural position. He seemingly preferred a 2-yard run where Cadillac Williams is blasted by a cornerback to a 6-yard run where Alstott trucked through linebackers. If you disliked McD for not recognizing Peyton Hillis’ abilities, remember that Gruden did the same thing to Alstott.
While I don’t buy into the “with Dungy’s players” argument completely, Gruden’s team became progressively dysfunctional over the years.
One of the commentors at the DP brought up a very good point
about why Tebow isn’t playing alot. The only reps he ever gets in practise with the first team is in the swamp package. He basically said that this was his first practise getting reps with the first team.
So it might not be that Tebow completely sucks and can’t play but that the coaching staff (including the McD era) never prepare any qb but Orton to play. It would also explain why Simms looked so lost last year.
And now for something completely different
Not really a novel concept
Studesville said last week he wasn’t going to play because he hadn’t been taking first team reps. Hopefully with Orton banged up, he will get a few more reps with the 1st team and it will make more sense to plop him into action if Orton has another off day this Sunday.
The way he said it though
it sounds like this is the first either he or Brady have taken reps with the first team since the preseason. You’d think it be at least smart to prepare your backup qb just in case of injury or absolute epic suckiness. Is this common practise around the NFL, not preparing your backup qbs.
And now for something completely different
by AlbertaBronc on Dec 16, 2010 10:46 AM MST up reply actions
It would appear to me that Orton has as much long term potential to be Denver’s starting QB as your or I do.
If the poor guy runs on the field vs Houston, I’m worried the home crowd will boo him off the field and into Kansas. Orton has proven especially fragile to such treatment. Does Denver need another black eye? We already have 37 so why not.?! It’s like perma-black eye.
Seeing as Orton’s LT future in Denver is highly dubious, wouldn’t it make logical sense to see what Tebow can do as soon as possible?
The angry fans and Woody Paige didn't get McDaniels fired, a lack of improvement, 3-9, several losing streaks, Spygate II, empty seats, too many home losses, several bad blowouts, botched personnel decisions and the endless drama did the trick.
This coaching staff ins't thinking long term
What do they care what happens for the Broncos long term? They won’t be here in a year anyway. If they really feel like Orton is the better QB, they are going to play him. They care about their audition for every other team in the league, not the Broncos.
Too bad the FO can’t do anything about that. Not that Ellis and Xanders would be smart enough to in the first place.
I think you’re right. What a debacle and what a wasted season 2010 has turned out to be. We have a bunch of players and coaches that either won’t be around or won’t be running the same sort of offense/defense next year.
If we screw up the 2011 draft, that will be the cherry on top (really -the bottom).
The angry fans and Woody Paige didn't get McDaniels fired, a lack of improvement, 3-9, several losing streaks, Spygate II, empty seats, too many home losses, several bad blowouts, botched personnel decisions and the endless drama did the trick.
Who in the FO has any power at this point?
The GM has already admitted that he didn’t have final say over personel. I like Xanders (from what I have read about his ability to work magic with contracts and money), but a GM better have a say in everything. I feel like everything is in “hold on for dear life” mode right now until the season ends, we hire a true GM and the rebuilding starts.
It's pretty common that the starting QB get the majority of the reps.
by bfree2bronc on Dec 16, 2010 10:44 AM MST up reply actions
I know majority
see past response
And now for something completely different
by AlbertaBronc on Dec 16, 2010 10:47 AM MST up reply actions
So your saying Simms really did suck then?
I’m going with your story.
The angry fans and Woody Paige didn't get McDaniels fired, a lack of improvement, 3-9, several losing streaks, Spygate II, empty seats, too many home losses, several bad blowouts, botched personnel decisions and the endless drama did the trick.
But he didn't inhale
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
My ship finally came in, but it was the Kobayashi Maru.
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by KaptainKirk on Dec 16, 2010 10:50 AM MST up reply actions
Umm okay
All i was saying was the way Tebow was talking, this was the first time him or Brady have taken reps with the first team since preseason and all i was looking for was clarification on whether or not this was true.
And yes Simms does suck
And now for something completely different
by AlbertaBronc on Dec 16, 2010 10:54 AM MST up reply actions
Jets' Strength Coach Timothy Leary forming a wall.
I’m not sure why instructing the players to form a wall is so bad…The idea is that if the gunner gets knocked into the bench area, he won’t have a direct route back to the field.
The purpose is clearly not to initiate contact, as everyone else in the line stepped back, and seemed to be surprised by Alosi’s actions.
on the radio this morning they were saying there are two lines on the sideline — one is where players can be [further back] and one is where coaches can be [more forward]. they were all at the forward line
by Todd Jewell on Dec 16, 2010 11:37 AM MST up reply actions
I haven't read anything that said the inactive players weren't allowed to stand in the coaches' box.
In every account I’ve read, the issue is simply that they were standing in a formation.
It would seem reasonable to regulate the behavior of inactive players along with coaches and other sideline personnel, rather than active players, but I don’t know.
Does anyone have a rulebook handy? Is there any regulation of who is allowed in the coaches’ box, or does the coaches’ box simply exclude active players?
I don’t have one but since inactive players are not coaches, my guess is that they shouldn’t be there.
Found it...
On NFL.com
…Only coaches and a small amount of situation substitution players immediately ready to be sent into the game are allowed within the “second border” — which extends to the solid yellow line within the bench area that is six feet from the solid white “first border.”
…Alosi can be seen, along with a group of five inactive Jets players, standing on the edge of the “first border.”
Orton says,
“…if my teammates are going to get their butts kicked, I’m going to be in there getting my butt kicked too,”
How can you not love this guy?
If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!
by Trinidad Jack on Dec 16, 2010 11:30 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
Well, perhaps I'm parsing words too closely,
but I would rather he didn’t sound so predisposed towards the butt-kicking.
I had the same thought...
It’s discouraging to think that he was going back out to get his butt kicked, and not to lead his team. There may be no such thing as a moral victory, but you can still play for pride.
I think you're reading too much into it
He’s saying that he wants to be out there with his teammates in good and bad times. If they’re getting beat he wants to be out there playing until the end, even in bad times.
Ditto
If this be Hell, let us make the most of it!
by Trinidad Jack on Dec 16, 2010 12:38 PM MST up reply actions
I believe Orton's a stand-up teammate,
hence my qualification. Also, I didn’t hear him say it, and that could make a world of difference. On paper, though, the words just struck me as odd.
Thanks for the Tracks!
My undying optimism actually has me really excited for this Sunday’s game! Now, I don’t think We’ll turn it around and give them anywhere near the romping they administered to Us, but I can hope! And that’s what I’ll continue to do until the day I die.
I’m thinking Broncos 37, Oakland 17. I usually don’t even attempt to predict scores, so We’ll see.
A pessimist sees the difficulties in every opportunity.
An optimist sees the opportunities in every difficulty.
- Winston Churchill
First (and only, in our lifetimes) team to three consecutive SB wins!!!! ( =
by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Dec 16, 2010 4:05 PM MST reply actions
