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Tim Tebow has a positive outlook, but the Denver Broncos organization is in trouble - ESPN
We have two Elway's steak houses and one Shanahan's, yet the glory days of those men are 11 years gone now. We drown our sorrows in the green chile of Mark (Stink) Schlereth, departed now 10 years. The wind whistles down the empty seats at Mile Low Stadium.

This year's Broncos rank among worst in franchise history - The Denver Post
When the entire Josh McDaniels era, on and off the field, is put into context, it's not a stretch to argue that if they're not the worst team in franchise history, today's Broncos team has gone lower than any previous lowest point.

Orton's ribs still sore, so Broncos QB Tebow takes most of reps with first team - The Denver Post
With Kyle Orton's ribs sore enough to keep the veteran out of practice once again Thursday, it was rookie Tim Tebow taking most of the work with the starting offense for the second consecutive day.

Star-divide

Broncos WR Lloyd expects battle against Asomugha - The Denver Post
The past two Broncos' opponents have turned down the wattage on wide receiver Brandon Lloyd's career season.

Analysis: Broncos' Martindale defends his defenders, although the numbers are frightening - The Denver Post
Facing a pile of troubling numbers — the Broncos' defense is on pace to surrender at least 400 points for the third time in the last four seasons — and a pile of injuries in his depth chart, Broncos defensive coordinator Don Martindale played a little offense in support of his guys Wednesday.

Q&A: Moreno's image suffers in comparison with Hillis - The Denver Post
Q: I was just wondering if most people in Denver think (Knowshon) Moreno is a bust and, do they even like the dude?

Broncos still plan on starting Orton, not Tebow, vs. Raiders - The Denver Post
If Tim Tebow is going to start his first game at quarterback for the Broncos this Sunday at Oakland, don't expect any announcement to come from the team until game time.

Players should just say no to the NFL's 18-game schedule - The Denver Post
For the long-term good of the game and the welfare of the players, stop the NFL's proposed 18-game schedule in its tracks.

Weeks passed before rape was reported in Bronco's case - The Denver Post
An alleged sexual assault that led to charges against Broncos player Perrish Cox happened around Labor Day, Sept. 6, then was reported to police almost eight weeks later

What should the Denver Broncos do about Brandon Lloyd? | All Things Broncos
After leading the NFL in receiving yards for most of the season, Brandon Lloyd has caught only five total passes for 63 total yards, and no touchdowns, in the Broncos last two games.

Chicago Bears at Minnesota Vikings game set for University of Minnesota as Metrodome roof keeps falling - ESPN
On the same day the NFL said it's moving forward with plans to play Monday night's Minnesota Vikings-Chicago Bears game at the University of Minnesota's outdoor stadium, a fourth roof panel collapsed at the Metrodome.

Brett Favre committed to finishing season with Minnesota Vikings - ESPN
Brett Favre sounds like a quarterback who's thrown his last pass, at peace with the way his storied career could end on a blindside hit that slammed him to the turf and ended his all-time record durability streak.

Kansas City Chiefs' Matt Cassel limited in practice, status vs. St. Louis Rams uncertain - ESPN
Kansas City Chiefs quarterback Matt Cassel was limited in practice Thursday and his availability for Sunday's game at St. Louis remained unclear.

Dallas Cowboys QB Tony Romo becomes engaged to TV sports reporter Candice Crawford - ESPN Dallas
KDAF-TV in Dallas reported that Romo got engaged to girlfriend Candice Crawford. Crawford, a former Miss Missouri, works as a sports reporter at the television station.

Wrap-up: Chargers 34, 49ers 7 - AFC West Blog - ESPN
Thoughts on the Chargers' 34-7 victory over the 49ers on Thursday night in San Diego:

Vikings sign Patrick Ramsey, put Tarvaris Jackson on IR - NFL - SI.com
Brett Favre says he's committed to finishing the season with the Minnesota Vikings - even if he can't play.

Playoff-hungry Chargers resembled NFL's best team -- for one night - Ann Killion - SI.com
Thursday night's game really should have been re-titled "Monty Python Tribute" night. Because they're not dead yet. Neither one of them.

NFL.com news: Report: Steelers' Polamalu likely to miss Jets tilt with leg injury
Pittsburgh Steelers strong safety Troy Polamalu, who missed practice Wednesday and Thursday with a lower-leg injury aggravated in last Sunday's win over the Cincinnati Bengals, is not expected to play Sunday against the New York Jets (9-4), according to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.

NFL.com news: Packers WR Driver was 'very concerned' about Rodgers' health
Donald Driver saw it in Aaron Rodgers' eyes: The quarterback wasn't quite right after taking hard hits on back-to-back plays, but he still wanted to go back in the game.

NFL.com news: NFL reiterates sideline rules, restrictions in memo sent to teams
In response to a New York Jets staff member tripping a Miami Dolphins player along the sideline during a game, the NFL on Thursday issued a memo to all teams reminding them of longstanding rules regarding bench area borders and restrictions.

NFL.com news: Playoff Picture 2010
Five division leaders can clinch playoff berths in Week 15, and the Patriots (the NFL's only team to secure a playoff berth so far) and Steelers can secure first-round byes in the AFC. Pittsburgh and Jacksonville in the AFC, Atlanta, Chicago and the Giants in the NFC all are in position to earn postseason spots. Three division runners-up also have shots at securing playoff berths this weekend.

NFL.com news: Struggling Jets must throw early to get ground game going
It's funny how quickly things change in the NFL.

NFL.com news: LeBeau-Polamalu duo makes Steel Curtain a dominant force
He's at it again. Dick LeBeau's defense is back at the top of the charts, and the 73-year-old Steelers defensive coordinator is proving what he said at his Hall of Fame induction speech in August: "Age is just a number."

NFL.com Blogs " Blog Archive Four Downs: Patient Jaguars can win in Indy "
Here’s a look at four items from my film notes of Week 14:

NFL players with the most to lose in a lockout - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
With their collective bargaining agreement set to expire in March, the National Football League’s players and team owners are headed for a labor war. The players are demanding a bigger piece of the league’s $8 billion revenue pie while the owners want to maintain their current share.

RB Ivory goes from nowhere to New Orleans - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
The player who is the best story in the NFL this year – bursting from nowhere to the New Orleans Saints – moves with a fury that borders on desperation. His legs whirl. His arms whip. His head bounces. There is nothing easy or graceful in the way he goes. Every step comes violent and hungry as if stopping means he will lose everything that’s happened almost as fast as it came.

Vick says he would like a pet dog, renewing debate - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
Michael Vick(notes) is barred from owning a dog for a year and a half, but the star quarterback’s comment that he’d like to bring one into his house generated renewed outrage—and support.

Picture perfect end brewing this season - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
A year ago, it was all about perfection. Heading into the third-to-last week of the 2009 regular season, the New Orleans Saints and Indianapolis Colts were 13-0 teams on a Super Bowl collision course, and everybody had an opinion about whether they should rest their starters or make a run at history.


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Thanks for the Tracks John

It would be nice to see Tebow get more than 1 or 2 plays this weekend. We have to find out what he can do

live and die blue and orange

by jerry251 on Dec 17, 2010 8:23 AM MST reply actions  

That Rick Reilly article blows. Straight up. Nothing more to say.

All I want for Christmas is for Tebow to play a lot on Sunday and for Tebow to play well.

That would be very very very awesome.

The angry fans and Woody Paige didn't get McDaniels fired, a lack of improvement, 3-9, several losing streaks, Spygate II, empty seats, too many home losses, several bad blowouts, botched personnel decisions and the endless drama did the trick.

by McGeorge on Dec 17, 2010 8:36 AM MST reply actions  

Totally agree

Overall, his sentiment may be exactly what fans are feeling and thus why I’ve seen a lot of my friends post this around the ’net tagged “Great Article”, but it is terribly written.

Not a single original thought in the whole thing. He pretty much just text mined the DP forums.

by jwkcsu on Dec 17, 2010 9:12 AM MST up reply actions  

the only part i liked was historical anecdote:
Denver has a 40-year sellout streak going, but it’s in jeopardy. Do you realize there were an estimated 13,000 no shows for the Broncos’ home game with St. Louis? We used to go entire seasons with less than a thousand. I can remember being at one game and hearing the PA announce a whopping 24 no shows. More than 24 people have car trouble on any given Sunday. And the fans booed!

24 no shows at a game… pretty awesome.

by tunga77 on Dec 17, 2010 9:14 AM MST up reply actions  

I used to attend some of those games when I lived in Colorado. Loved booing those 24 no shows.

There were 6 no shows when I saw Elway beat Warren Moon in a 1990 playoff game. 6 no shows. I was a little, but my dad and I booed those 6 like crazy.

It was snowing and very cold that day. Loud as hell too.

The angry fans and Woody Paige didn't get McDaniels fired, a lack of improvement, 3-9, several losing streaks, Spygate II, empty seats, too many home losses, several bad blowouts, botched personnel decisions and the endless drama did the trick.

by McGeorge on Dec 17, 2010 9:29 AM MST up reply actions  

I was at that game too

South stands, baby. Awesome. The cold doesn’t bother you when you’re one of thousands of drunken maniacs. :) A nice memory compared to this year.

by Piglet on Dec 17, 2010 10:06 AM MST up reply actions  

wow... 6 no shows. epic.

Man, what I would’ve given to be able to fill one of those 6 seats…. that was one of the best games ever. 2 of your all time greats facing off in the playoffs; patented Elway comeback; two 4th down conversions on the final drive. I remember watching it on TV and when Vance (or was it Mark) caught that duck of a pass from Elway and raced down the sidelines… I was screaming my lungs out, yet getting CHILLS at the same time seeing how crazy the crowd went (cameras were shaking like crazy).

Ugh at those 6… UGH.

by tunga77 on Dec 17, 2010 12:57 PM MST up reply actions  

Sadly not.

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by ChristianL on Dec 17, 2010 10:00 AM MST up reply actions  

yessir agreed mcgeorge :)

Joe Mays buys his Girl Scout cookies from Green Berets.

by grind_core on Dec 17, 2010 11:19 AM MST up reply actions  

Figured Orton was hurt...

Only reason you can go from what he was doing to what he is doing.

I agree with McGeorge. Tebow playing and beating Oakland IN Oakland would be a nice Christmas present.

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by ChristianL on Dec 17, 2010 8:54 AM MST reply actions  

On that note...

I think some players play games better than they practice. Scratch that – I know that to be true.

Otherwise how do you explain Vick not being the starter to start the season? Or Hillis not being the starter in Cleveland (or 2nd string when he was here…)?

I was like that in every competitive thing I did. I would practice hard and not be the best, but when it was live and real I always did better. Some people need true competition to start the fire.

Tebow will destroy Oakland if he starts.

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by ChristianL on Dec 17, 2010 8:57 AM MST up reply actions  

Two months to claim rape

So, it seems that the alleged victim may have discovered she is pregnant and claimed rape as the reason. I’m not saying it was or wasn’t rape, just curious and speculating about the delay in reporting.

by opinion8r on Dec 17, 2010 9:15 AM MST reply actions  

Dubious I agree. Cox seems to act as if he knows he’ll win this one.

The women is an aspiring model in Denver. My mind wonders down the path of attention-w####.

The angry fans and Woody Paige didn't get McDaniels fired, a lack of improvement, 3-9, several losing streaks, Spygate II, empty seats, too many home losses, several bad blowouts, botched personnel decisions and the endless drama did the trick.

by McGeorge on Dec 17, 2010 9:31 AM MST up reply actions  

I wonder if it's along the same lines as the Coby case?

We conquered this territory with our bodies and souls, then we watered it with our tears.
Go Denver!

by SSinSD on Dec 17, 2010 9:38 AM MST up reply actions  

I think you meant Kobe.

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by ChristianL on Dec 17, 2010 9:54 AM MST up reply actions  

Kobe.

Bryant.

:)

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by ChristianL on Dec 17, 2010 10:06 AM MST up reply actions  

I know.

It’s just way more fun to call him anything but Kobe.

by Jordo5150 on Dec 17, 2010 10:17 AM MST up reply actions  

Say what you want about Kobe.

The guy is a true competitor and one of the greatest athletes of all time.

People hate him, but the dude is what happens when amazing talent meets amazing work ethic.

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by ChristianL on Dec 17, 2010 10:22 AM MST up reply actions  

laker fan here, born in anaheim.. not bandwagon

the thing with kobe, much like all polarizing superstars, is that he is hated by about 97% of the rest of the people because he doesn’t play for their team. if you traded him to any one of the haters’ teams, more than likely they would start whistling a different tune. kobe is the best finisher in the game, and maybe of all time. including jordan, and i was around to watch jordan play, too.

Joe Mays buys his Girl Scout cookies from Green Berets.

by grind_core on Dec 17, 2010 11:23 AM MST up reply actions  

Keep dreaming.

Floyd Little: HOF Class of 2010.

2009-10 back-to-back NBA Champions L.A Lakers
2009-10 NBA Finals MVP Kobe Bryant

by weazel on Dec 17, 2010 12:57 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Oh god Jordo dont say such things.....

"To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the gift."-Steve Prefontaine

by Clompy on Dec 17, 2010 7:24 PM MST up reply actions  

uhm no

He could play for my teams and I’d still talk trash…I’m just not a big fan of rapists.

"Bombs dropping down overhead. Underground. It's instilled to want to live." -EV

by sadaraine on Dec 17, 2010 2:42 PM MST up reply actions  

Sorry GC I hate Kobe on or not my team.

But I know what you mean: I Hate Manu because he is not on my team but would love him if he were. Kobe in my book is the freaking devil I have zero respect for the person.

"To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the gift."-Steve Prefontaine

by Clompy on Dec 17, 2010 7:19 PM MST up reply actions  

This is a weird era we live in.

Rape is deadly serious, but so are false accusations.

That piece of trash Rasheedah Watley that went after Marshall was clearly a disturbed, greedy, self-serving and worthless individual. No wonder Marshall liked her (two of a feather).

There are so many cases of real sexual abuse that any woman that would falsely drum up charges for her own personal gain heaps shame upon herself and the real victims of sexual assault.

A lot of info has gotten out about the Cox accuser. Her name was even released for a short amount of time. Everything I’ve heard leads me to believe she is in the same camp as Marshall’s accuser Rasheedah Watley.

The angry fans and Woody Paige didn't get McDaniels fired, a lack of improvement, 3-9, several losing streaks, Spygate II, empty seats, too many home losses, several bad blowouts, botched personnel decisions and the endless drama did the trick.

by McGeorge on Dec 17, 2010 9:55 AM MST up reply actions  

Who tries to extort money from a 5th round draft pick?

Probably a have your cake and eat it too situation. I know how that sounds, but its not like she was hitting up Zane Beadles or JD Walton.

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by ChristianL on Dec 17, 2010 9:57 AM MST up reply actions  

It’s all a matter of perspective. What he makes looks like a lot to some and less to others. Cox also looks like he could have a pretty long NFL career so she could well be hitching her horse to a money train (again keep it in perspective as to what a lot of money looks like to an individual).

The angry fans and Woody Paige didn't get McDaniels fired, a lack of improvement, 3-9, several losing streaks, Spygate II, empty seats, too many home losses, several bad blowouts, botched personnel decisions and the endless drama did the trick.

by McGeorge on Dec 17, 2010 9:59 AM MST up reply actions  

She’s not hitching her horse with a rape accusation. If she is full of Orton then she’s going for a single big score and Cox isn’t Mr. Moneybags.

But girls can be stupid so she hears “NFL” and sees dollar signs.

But if she’s trying to find a long term sugar daddy she went about it much differently than most people would.

My initial reaction was that he did it because that is the way our season is going.

My new reaction is that it was consentual and one of three things happened: He put something somewhere he wasn’t supposed to or she was too drunk and didn’t remember so she freaked out or she had post-coitus illusions of grandeur and visions of gold plated sugar plums.

Two of those things will still land Cox in some hot water, but probably end up in a settlement.

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by ChristianL on Dec 17, 2010 10:06 AM MST up reply actions  

Look at the Duke Lacrosse case

There wasn’t any money grubbing going on, yet there was an obvious false accusation. Hopefully we have all learned to reseve judgment until we get all the facts.

by Jordo5150 on Dec 17, 2010 10:09 AM MST up reply actions  

I’m an American and reserve the right to make kneejerk reactions to any and all news.

I didn’t learn to reserve anything other than my scorn for people who anger me.

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by ChristianL on Dec 17, 2010 10:30 AM MST up reply actions  

oh no not the rape case lol!!

Looks more and more like the only punishment this “rapist” will get is likely from the league but what the hell do I know

WE WILL MOVE ON!!

by milehighhitter505 on Dec 17, 2010 10:33 AM MST via mobile up reply actions  

There's a lot of speculation in this thread

We have juries for a reason. Rape is a serious charge. Serious to make falsely and serious to have been raped. We don’t know what happened. And this isn’t football where speculation is a hobby, it’s about peoples lives and crime. I reserve all judgment until the facts are out. I’m troubled to see posts in this thread making decisions about what “likely” happened and then advocating that in a public forum. It’s an “injustice.”

I just wanted to share how creepy I felt reading these posts. We have a legal system. Public opinion as a court ends up tainting those that may or may not deserve it. I say leave the tainting to those who are tainted.

First they ignore you.
They then laugh at you.
Then they fight you.
Then, you win.
--Gandhi

by Santa Fe Bronc on Dec 17, 2010 10:51 AM MST up reply actions  

Santa fe, I think you need to wake up and smell the coffee. Noobe is saying that he did or didn’t do it. But you need to understand that I know alot of woman hold grudges and if he Pissed her off in any way like not calling her back or ignoring her or whatever reason she will more than likely try to retaliate and seek revenge. Again im not sayinthat that is what happened but just cause he’s a football player in the nfl, star or not, he’s going to attract money hungery woman looking for a bangs daddy. If you didn’t like what you read or our comments then don’t read it. Its a choice.

by broncs27 on Dec 17, 2010 12:39 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Babys daddy*

by broncs27 on Dec 17, 2010 12:46 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

I did mean Kobe Bryant

This wouldn’t be the first time a person has made accusations that are $$$ related or just for sour grapes in a one sided relationship. 2 months is a long time to wait. As far as Kobe is concerned I thought that he was railroaded legally and publicly embarassed for money. Personal opinion, of course, and I don’t excuse him for his infidelity. But the facts are not out there in this case yet so it’s difficult to say.

We conquered this territory with our bodies and souls, then we watered it with our tears.
Go Denver!

by SSinSD on Dec 17, 2010 10:50 AM MST up reply actions  

Rick Reilly is ridiculous!

Sure Denver is having it’s worse season I can ever remember, but even when we’re down and out I don’t much care to be made fun of. What an @@s! Maybe I’m being a bit sensitive but It seemed like he was making fun of Tim Tebow as well. Write your story Reilly, but leave out the stupid attempts at being a night show host.

We conquered this territory with our bodies and souls, then we watered it with our tears.
Go Denver!

by SSinSD on Dec 17, 2010 9:23 AM MST reply actions  

Seriously.

Why in the hell would he ask him about the CFL? Disrespectful. and Dumb.

by Jordo5150 on Dec 17, 2010 9:49 AM MST up reply actions  

i hate when people say Moreno is a bust....

To compare him to the “great Peyton Hillis”. Moreno has played in less games then Hillis and is only 356 yards behind him. Also Moreno averages 4.3 yards a carry and Hillis is at 4.5. The only difference I see is the rushing TD’s, but how is that Moreno’s fault? His not the one callings plays once the broncos are inside the redzone. His not the one checking the run to throw a pass. The only running play inside the redzone I saw last game was when Moreno scored. However one thing pops out at me when I look at Peyton’s stats, he has 8 fumbles….. yeah 8! How come nobody talks about this? Against bufflo, his lost the ball 3 times….if that happened to Moreno he would be taken out of the game and called a bust.

With that said, it’s a pain reading articles on espn and denver post saying Moreno is a bust. Did you guys know that Moreno was one of five players in broncos history to have over 1,000 yards from scrimage in his first two seasons? Also he has a streak of five consecutive games with 100-plus scrimmage yards (tied for the longest active streak in the NFL). I got this information from the broncos website. It’d be amazing if the people on the denver post actually did research. After all, they’re getting paid for it…..

by tiderfootball09 on Dec 17, 2010 9:34 AM MST reply actions   3 recs

Ya in a lost season....

Moreno is the only player really giving us any hope for the future. Hes playing hard and playing very well

by worleybird on Dec 17, 2010 9:48 AM MST up reply actions  

Cough Lloyd Cough.

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
- Thomas Alva Edison

"Success is not a place at which one arrives, but rather... the spirit with which one undertakes and continues the journey."
- Alex Noble

by DenBronx on Dec 17, 2010 11:23 AM MST up reply actions  

love it love it. rec’d. thanks for the info, its good to see some people standing up for the team.

"To all the critiques, thank you for the motivation… because it has been an edge for me and will continue to be an edge for me" - Tim 'the Mile High Messiah' Tebow

by David G. Little on Dec 17, 2010 9:56 AM MST up reply actions  

Moreno has ascended this season in my eyes. He has really improved. It’s Robert Ayers that is now bringing into question his future value in Denver. Where the heck is the pass rush from this guy? He looks so damn one-dimensional right now. Nothing like a Top 20 overall pick.

The angry fans and Woody Paige didn't get McDaniels fired, a lack of improvement, 3-9, several losing streaks, Spygate II, empty seats, too many home losses, several bad blowouts, botched personnel decisions and the endless drama did the trick.

by McGeorge on Dec 17, 2010 9:57 AM MST up reply actions  

I like Ayers...

But could you imagine Orakpo or Cushing? There were THREE LBs would could have taken there and we took the wrong one.

I personally wanted Orakpo.

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by ChristianL on Dec 17, 2010 10:07 AM MST up reply actions  

Lesson learned

Don’t draft projects when there are proven players left on the board. Ayers was a 1 year starter and everyone talked about his potential. Obviously you are going to hit and miss on draft picks, but give yourself the best chance to hit. Projects are for the late rounds, not the 1st round.

by Jordo5150 on Dec 17, 2010 10:11 AM MST up reply actions  

Agreed.

You may win huge, but you may lose huge. In the first round you need someone that is going to come in and start and be better than average immediately with a high ceiling.

If it had been me drafting in 2009 (I do a board every year and make my picks for Denver) we would have ended up with…

Orakpo – OLB. 1st.
V. Davis – CB. 1st
Malaluga – ILB. 2nd (Trade for Smith)
Byrd – FS. 2nd
Ramses Barden – WR. 2nd(Trade)

4 out of 5 isnt bad.

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by ChristianL on Dec 17, 2010 10:18 AM MST up reply actions  

I guess four. I meant Matthews not Cushing.

But we could have had one of the four.

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by ChristianL on Dec 17, 2010 10:11 AM MST up reply actions  

Doom is also pretty 1-dimensional.

But very few people seem to fault him for it. They certainly don’t question his future value in Denver.

by CompUser on Dec 17, 2010 10:20 AM MST up reply actions  

Difference

The difference is that he’s extremely good at his one dimension. His one dimension is to put pressure on the QB and get sacks, and last year he was the best in the league at it.

by scooter17 on Dec 17, 2010 10:55 AM MST up reply actions  

I don't see many people saying that Moreno is a bust

Bust is a strong term that implies total failure. I think Moreno is a good running back overall. He makes sharp cuts and has decent power for his size. However, he does not have very good break away speed, and doesn’t have the power to be a reliable short yardage back. Also, his pass blocking this year has ranged from poor to horrific. (Hence the reason you always see Buckhalter in during obvious passing situations)
 
I think that the perception of Moreno is hurt by factors which are not his fault. First, he is hurt by the very high expectations that are put on the 12’th overall pick. (with good reason mind you) If he had been picked in the third or fourth round, he would receive almost no criticism, and if he had been picked in the seventh round, people would be talking about what a steal he was. The second thing that haunts him (again, through no fault of his own) is that people just didn’t like the decision to go with a running back with that draft pick. Most everyone , including myself, was thinking defense. Most look at the decision to draft Moreno at that point as a serious mistake, and some of that anger over that decision unfairly gets thrown at Moreno. It’s certainty not fair to him, but that’s just the way it is.

by BroncoMarc on Dec 17, 2010 3:05 PM MST up reply actions  

Walterfootball wrote the following as to why the Lions will draft a CB with a Top 5 pick in the 2011 draft

“Alphonso Smith, a Denver Broncos reject, completely humiliated himself on Thanksgiving. And don’t make the mistake of pointing to Smith’s five interceptions if you plan on defending him; he has those five picks because quarterbacks threw at him non-stop.”

Nice…

The angry fans and Woody Paige didn't get McDaniels fired, a lack of improvement, 3-9, several losing streaks, Spygate II, empty seats, too many home losses, several bad blowouts, botched personnel decisions and the endless drama did the trick.

by McGeorge on Dec 17, 2010 10:02 AM MST reply actions  

He is who you thought he was.

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by ChristianL on Dec 17, 2010 10:19 AM MST up reply actions  

eww

I hate that phrase

by Pmoreno95 on Dec 17, 2010 12:03 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

Been saying this for a while: it doesn’t matter at all if Smith can play or not. As far as the Broncos are concerned, it just amounts to a squandered first round pick. Period.

by BroncoMarc on Dec 17, 2010 2:44 PM MST up reply actions  

I don’t like Phonz so I’m happy to see him sucking.

The angry fans and Woody Paige didn't get McDaniels fired, a lack of improvement, 3-9, several losing streaks, Spygate II, empty seats, too many home losses, several bad blowouts, botched personnel decisions and the endless drama did the trick.

by McGeorge on Dec 17, 2010 9:14 PM MST up reply actions  

Reilly's article

Is over the top to be sure. But it is what he does sometimes. Fact is he is a Bronco fan who is as frustrated as many of us, and saw the train wreck coming over a year ago. And make no mistake about, overall he is a very talented and thoughtful writer. He is one of the few national guys who has always had our backs, including one who promoted Elway when others weren’t. So just because he hasn’t deified McD from day one like some have around here, that doesn’t make him any less of a writer or an overall Bronco advocate.

My fantasy hockey team sucks. But at least I'm not a Red Wing sellout.

by Bob in Boulder on Dec 17, 2010 10:20 AM MST reply actions  

Yes and no

I agree with your premise that he’s just a frustrated fan… but nothing I’ve ever read from Rick Reilly makes me think he’s any good as a writer at all. It’s been months since I’ve read a decent article from him. Most of his writing is trash.

by scooter17 on Dec 17, 2010 10:57 AM MST up reply actions  

He is just like us

But there is a reason we don’t get to go ask Tim Tebow questions, because we might ask something dumb like “Have you thought about Canada”.

by Jordo5150 on Dec 17, 2010 11:28 AM MST up reply actions  

Thanks Mr. Bena

Great, as always, to have all the Broncos related material from the internet, in one easy (and kick-a$$) location.

Can’t wait to see the game this weekend, I simply don’t care anymore, what anyone says about this year’s team. I still look forward to watching the Broncos play every week. And always will.

My curiosity tends to lean towards, who will Tebow’s first non-TD pass be to?
Will there be a Tebow to Orton TD before the end of the season?
How many TD catches will Lloyd have by season’s end?
How many TD runs for Knowshon?
How many many more interceptions will Our D have? Please get at least four more… Ending the season with more than ten (at this point) will be encouraging…..
These are the kind of positives my mind focuses on, in a season such as this.

A pessimist sees the difficulties in every opportunity.
An optimist sees the opportunities in every difficulty.
- Winston Churchill

First (and only, in our lifetimes) team to three consecutive SB wins!!!! ( =

by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Dec 17, 2010 10:33 AM MST reply actions  

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