The Expectations For Tim Tebow
by Colby on Dec 18, 2010 8:00 PM MST
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With Kyle Orton being injured and questionable to start this Sunday, Denver Bronco fans, Florida Gator fans, and a lot of football fans will finally get their wish. The Mile High Messiah or what ever else you want to call him; Tim Tebow, a NCAA legend, will get the opportunity to start his first National Football League game.
Whether you love him or hate him, Tim Tebow is undoubtedly one of the greatest college quarterbacks of all time. With accolades like winning the Heisman Trophy, being nominated for the award two other times, along with two BCS championships, the expectations for Tebow are through the roof. Despite criticism of his throwing motion and his ability to run a pro set offense, people are still going to be expecting Tebow to come out and play like a legend. It happens to every college legend.
Everyone has a different idea of what success will be for Tim Tebow's first start. Some might expect nothing but a win is acceptable. Some might just want a good statistical day.
It has been an interesting season for rookie quarterbacks. Plenty have started unexpectedly. Some rookies to start this season include: Sam Bradford, Max Hall, Jimmie Clausen, Colt McCoy, Rusty Smith John Skelton, etc.
Most have actually fared not too bad.
What I want to know is what your expectations are for Tim Tebow's first career start. If indeed it is this Sunday in the black hole that is indeed Oakland what do you want to see from number fifteen. In the comments let me know what you want to see
Personally?
I will be looking for his footwork. When Tebow threw his picks in the preseason, it was usually because he was throwing off balance off the wrong foot. I will be looking for how fast he makes decisions. How he watches his options before tucking the ball.
Winning or losing won't mean much to me in a rookie quarterbacks debut. Sure it would be nice to see Tebow get revenge on our crushing earlier in the season, but this is about how Tebow plays. I would love to see a day like this: I want to see Tim throw the ball at least 25 times. Get him involved. I would also like to see him run the ball 3-5 times. He knows how to extend a play. And when he runs I want to know if he has learnt to hook slide because we can't have anymore happenings like against Arizona. I love his toughness, but we need durability.
What are your expectations for the Mile High Messiah?
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please explain?
Sorry for my ignorance but what does this mean…?
by Downunder Thunder on Dec 19, 2010 1:28 AM MST up reply actions
Thanks mate...plainview88
and to you and your family a Merry Merry Christmas
by Downunder Thunder on Dec 19, 2010 1:32 AM MST up reply actions
Complete more than half his passes… one deep pass, despite the possible storm..
No strip sacks… The haters wil eat that play up, no fumbles period, no more than 2 picks….
It would feel so good to tell Raiders fans that they lost to Tebow!
And hopefully down the road, they’ll remember the illustrious career of Tebow all started in Oakland where Tebow willed the stagnant Bronco O to a last minute victory!
We could be experiencing history in the making!
Go Tebow
by Broncos808 on Dec 18, 2010 8:20 PM MST via mobile reply actions 2 recs
Pressed send before I wrote..
and Go Broncos!
by Broncos808 on Dec 18, 2010 8:21 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Go Broncos!
let the legacy begin.
Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. DA
by Whidbey Bronco on Dec 19, 2010 3:22 AM MST up reply actions
No expectations from me
I don’t watch college football and have never seen him play. Usually when I have high expectations I end up disappointed, ala this season and Tron.
The glass is usually twice as big as it needs to be.
by BaldMatt on Dec 18, 2010 8:21 PM MST via mobile reply actions
My wife and I just got back from Tron
30 minutes ago and we agree with BaldMatt, Tron sucks. Too bad. One good thing to come from it though is it made me want to rent the original!
by rubincarterrocks on Dec 18, 2010 9:13 PM MST up reply actions
The Original Sucked
Dont waste your time.
it did kinda
Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. DA
by Whidbey Bronco on Dec 19, 2010 3:23 AM MST up reply actions
when I was a kid it was great
As an adult not as much.
100% Behind McDaniels, Xanders, and the Denver Broncos
Drinking Orange Koolaide for over 25 years :)
Go Broncos!!!!!
by powderaddict on Dec 19, 2010 8:34 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
hugely.
It could have been a fun movie, but it truly sucked
100% Behind McDaniels, Xanders, and the Denver Broncos
Drinking Orange Koolaide for over 25 years :)
Go Broncos!!!!!
by powderaddict on Dec 19, 2010 8:33 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
Who hates Him?
Nobody should hate this man. There is NO good reason…none.
by CastorTroy on Dec 18, 2010 8:31 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
I know but thats not a good reason
I guess if you are a Raider, Chief, Charger, Seminal, Crimson fan you are allowed to hate him. :)
Today I thought about hating Jay-Z just to be a hater
Couldn’t find a good reason so left it alone.
by NYCBronx on Dec 18, 2010 9:41 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Hahahah........nice one.
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2009-10 back-to-back NBA Champions L.A Lakers
2009-10 NBA Finals MVP Kobe Bryant
i mean he's the messiah right? i expect him to equal orton's numbers
throw for 3653 yards and 20 TDs
34 sacks!
27% third down conversion rate…YEEHAW!
I’ll take crappy yards and TDs for high third down conversions and less sacks. :) He and KnoMo can run the TDs in. lol
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by Tim Lynch on Dec 18, 2010 9:01 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
can they run the tds in 98 yards because I believe we have definite proof that thats a NO !!
Tebows tds were setup by Ortons passes and Knowshons longest td run is less than 5 yards so how are you gonna move the other 80 yards ?
At least try and keep the facts involved .
I cant want to see Tebow overcome the penalties and 3rd and long if not It will be interesting to see some of you talk around this issue .
Tebow won't take all the sacks that put the Broncos in many of those situations.
Either way, I’m excited to see how Tebow handles the game. I was ready to accept Orton as the starter and to root him on, but now Tebow is starting so I am going all in.
My only regret is that I didn’t get the chance to make myself believe in Orton…I have only changed my ways in that regard this past week. Though if Orton starts next week or what not, I’ll be having his back – rest assured. I want wins…
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34 Sacks ?
If so, it is going to be a rough day.
I can see Russia from my house.
How bout 3 wins in only 3 games....
Something it took Orton 13 games to do….
by Broncos15 on Dec 18, 2010 9:24 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
Play his style learn from thenmkstakes
2/3 of the earth is covered by water the other 1/3 is covered by Champ Bailey!
THIS IS BRONCOS COUNTRY!!!
by The 3 Amigos on Dec 18, 2010 9:00 PM MST via mobile reply actions
Sorry, tried to say play his style learn from his mistakes and bring that Tebow fire and passion!
2/3 of the earth is covered by water the other 1/3 is covered by Champ Bailey!
THIS IS BRONCOS COUNTRY!!!
by The 3 Amigos on Dec 18, 2010 9:01 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Tebow has the furious anger
Perhaps I’m wrong, at first I thought “let’s not throw Tebow to the wolves at Oakland”.
Then I think, this is what this man has wanted all his life, to be put to the challenge at the most inopportune time. His head is there. Actual skill is the deciding factor.
by NYCBronx on Dec 18, 2010 9:46 PM MST up reply actions 2 recs
I'll be watching his body language
and the way his teammates work around him. If Orton isn’t really hurt, he sure has acted like it the past couple of weeks — no velocity or accuracy on his passes, and slouching around as if he’d rather be anywhere but on the field. I know these guys are professionals, but I also know the veterans have a tendency to take some time off in games like this. I’ll be expecting Tebow to be a leader on this team — win or lose. Of course, I hope we win!
by 42n81 on Dec 18, 2010 9:09 PM MST reply actions 2 recs
me too. Let's see if his team believes!
Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. DA
by Whidbey Bronco on Dec 18, 2010 9:11 PM MST up reply actions
Basically the same as 42n81
I just want to see him compete, period. I’m not as concerned about his “technique” as much as I want to see how the guys rally around him. I expect mistakes from any rookie, but I want his mistakes be made from his competitiveness and not from an effort of playing not to lose. I don’t expect perfection but rather I want to see how powerful his force of will is. For most of the season it has felt this team did not believe in itself, it would be great to see some fire and passion generated. We have not had any indication of how Tebow has been doing in practice but how hard his teammates play will tell me more about their belief as teammates in the potential of Tebow… do they believe in him?
by rubincarterrocks on Dec 18, 2010 9:25 PM MST up reply actions
I want Solid
3 to 5 above average plays.
Less than 2 boneheads, bad reads. 1 Pick or Less, no fumbles.
Say over 30% of 3rd down conversions, or better.
Lots of enthusiasm and energy.
All I say is, it is meant to be...
…NFL week 15 and #15 starting in game that starts exactly 15 minutes past the hour, stars are all lined up. He cannot fail. :)
Okay all kidding aside, I expect him to have a decent day, i.e. not get overwhelmed and keep his cool but get some of that college day spark. I said spark because if it is there, it will light a fire later surely. I do not think he will look like a savior on his first day, but I expect him to operate like a QB, and no matter what the score is, keep getting up and try to win the Mo**er f**ing football game. If he does that and shows his leadership skills, I will be a happy fan…
A QB rating of >30
I’m not expecting much, but am excited to see him start. I hope that he can start, I don’t want to see Orton behind center again. Even when he was throwing for tons of yards I still couldn’t get behind him. Think he’s a good guy, a humble guy, I just don’t think he’s going to be our QB of the future. I’m ready to see how Tebow does, for a glimpse at the future. I hope that he is a part of it, I’d hate it if he were a bust. I watched a five part video of him on YouTube and came away extremely impressed with his attitude and commitment to the game of football. So I root for him to do well.
It takes neither courage nor intelligence to cheer for a team only when that team wins. The true test of a fan's mettle is the same as it is for a player: Were you there when you were needed?
aka Solace
I am expecting a 21-20 Broncos victory
I believe Tim Tebow is going to become the unquestioned leader of the team tomorrow. I expect the o-line to have their best game of the year and Knowshon will grind out a 100 yards…. I expect Tebow to make at least one big play for the Raiders, maybe two. I expect him to look like a rookie in his first start. Most importantly,I expect Tim is gonna be clutch with the game on the line. Tomorrow will be the day that we all see flashes of ’IT" and the intangibles that we struggle to define…A Tebow-led conquest of the Black Hole; how apropos!
Tomorrow?
Gotta quit copy+pasting your answers into multiple threads. :P
<3 KO Clutch.
by Matt In Canada on Dec 19, 2010 10:33 AM MST up reply actions
Duh, you posted at midnight... I'm a dummy.
I hope the kid tears it up too.
<3 KO Clutch.
by Matt In Canada on Dec 19, 2010 10:34 AM MST up reply actions
I don't care who does what, as long as the Broncos do it better than the Raiders,
AND THE BRONCOS WIN THE MF’N GAME!
We as fans have the privilege of watching a legend in the making...
Much like what we had 1983! Tim will be fine in his surroundings and I won’t look for to much tomorrow from him, just to play hard and keep learning the game…Later is when the expectations will come.
I hope that all Bronco fans remember...
I hope that all Bronco fans remember who brought in TIm Tebow. Yes, I am referring to Josh McDaniels.
P.S. Screw you Joe Ellis.
by Auz on Dec 18, 2010 10:49 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
Attitude...
I will be looking Tebow to grasp the leadership role on this team…there will be adverse times during this game, I look no further than the body language of this team on the sidelines when adversity strikes.
by knoepke84 on Dec 18, 2010 11:21 PM MST via mobile reply actions
Well I expect to see him make rookie mistakes.
I personally think our running game will be a huge asset to Tebow, that is if it can get going. Moreno has been getting better over the past few games so hopefully the line can make some holes in order to ease things a bit.
Tebow will make some bonehead plays, however when things go bad you know he is going to fight and show everyone the leader he can be. I like Orton, however he seems to be sulking when things don’t go his way and I know Tebow won’t do that.
Floyd Little: HOF Class of 2010.
2009-10 back-to-back NBA Champions L.A Lakers
2009-10 NBA Finals MVP Kobe Bryant
I just hope that we run the ball
And, if it’s successful, to keep running it. Nothing has been more frustrating lately than McD trying to force the pass when the running game was doing quite well. After one game by McCoy, it seems that he has kept that same philosophy.
It takes neither courage nor intelligence to cheer for a team only when that team wins. The true test of a fan's mettle is the same as it is for a player: Were you there when you were needed?
aka Solace
looking forward to any positives to grasp.
I'm betting Marshall is sitting in Miami thinking "That could have been me." Instead, Tyler Thigpen is throwing him passes. - Nick Cast
by Jay Fin Anderson on Dec 18, 2010 11:28 PM MST via mobile reply actions
LEADERSHIP
I want to see him inspire his teammates. I want to see him light a fire under the ass of everyone sporting Broncos gear. I want to see these “intangibles” we’ve all been hearing so much about. In short, I want to see “IT,” that spark, that special something that someone with inherent leadership brings to the table.
And to see him start his career by going into Oaktown and ripping the heart out of the Faders would be pretty sweet, too.
- Nick
"Know the enemy, know yourself, and victory is never in doubt, not in a hundred battles."
- Sun Tzu
Partially agree
I would like to see Tim get about 25 attempts passing, but his rushing is where I disagree. When you are a 250 lb., dual threat, Quarterback/power back, there is a time and place for the hook slide. I want to see Tebow dole out some punishment because I know he’s capable of it, even at this level of play. I fully believe Tim should also have 10 to 15 rushing attempts as well. Trust me guys, he’s not your average, run of the mill, running Quarterback. Tim Tebow is Michael Bush with a QB’s brain.
But we want him around for a long time.
Concussions don’t care how big you are, so I would like to see him hook slide more often than not.
- Nick
"Know the enemy, know yourself, and victory is never in doubt, not in a hundred battles."
- Sun Tzu
My personal hope is that Tebow duplicates his last college game.
31/35 482 yards 3 TDs
14 rushes for 51 yards 1 TD
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I'm sorry, you must not have heard the experts
Tim never threw a pass in college. I think you meant he was 0-0.
sadly..
His first start won’t come under the guidence of Josh McDaniels. The pourus season aside, Tebow’s first start would fair much better under McD’s spread offense. His coaching ability, aside from his roster moves and poor season, would only assist Tebow’s learning curve. Josh would have had the opportunity to control the offensive side of the ball to suit the flow, tempo, and situations accordingly to better allow Tim to feel as comfortable as possible. Watching Tim’s career highlights with the gators, you can clearly see the offense playing to the defense and their reactions to tim. To combat blitzing, josh would have utilized tim’s running ability to keep them honest and keep them in the box, utilized moreno’s vision thereafter and utilized the play action to it’s fullest extent. If you look at our successful drives this season, the quick, almost god-like ability for us to gain yards at will type of drives, the play action played a major factor. Our play actions that mimicked running plays down to pulling guards and crowded lines. What better player to run this scheme than tebow. Someone that commands so much attention at the line of scrimmage that would benefit astronomically from josh’s system.
Regardless of all of this, I expect tebow to command this offense and light a fire under the teams energy-less, flat, lifeless asses, both offensively and defensively. He will have mistakes, just as anyone has, but i expect him not to hold his head low and act as if all will were lost. I could even venture to say, regardless of the bumps and bruises we’ve suffered this season, tim’s will and desire would have resulted in two, to three additional wins. Tim will throw for two hundred plus and will have a total of two touchdowns. That I know. The mistakes, i hope, will be few and far between. But predicting and expecting things of an inexperienced player, better yet anyone for that matter ahem, is subject to fail to meet our standards as fans.
I hope that the broncos organization as a whole doesn’t abandon ship on tebow if there are a few bumps. Letting go of a prospect, again, and having them succeed elsewhere would only detrement our image and morale further.
Stand by tim. Don’t chastise him, or throw him under the bus. Back him until there is no hope for him as a player. Allow him to mold his talents to the pro level.
by comagnum on Dec 19, 2010 12:20 AM MST via mobile reply actions
I am....
seriously believeing that he will be an average QB. Tomorrow, I expect an average day. The game is more than the QB. It involves much more, but there are many who believe that if TT were starting, miracles would have happened. Unfortunatly, the East Bay team has more at stake than the Broncos do.
If he had an average game, that may be the start. I just have some real difficulties believeing he will be more than an average to above average QB in his career.
But, we will see…..
You guys are all over the board!
That’s fine though. In a small way, or maybe even a big way, it’s like we Bronco fans are getting an early Christmas gift (feels that way to me anyway). To answer Colby’s question though, I would like to see what Tim is able to do with a broken play. I’d like to see him make something out of nothing. I want to see him disrupt the Raider DLine to where they don’t know what to do. I made a comment earlier on the Raider blog. My comment was I doubt they will be able to get 6 sacks on Tim. The reply was maybe not but they’d get a lot of picks. I sort of doubt that. The wind is gonna be gusting at 15 to 25 MPH with an 80% chance of rain. Not really a passing type of day… What I expect is some trick plays, lots of running between Moreno and Tebow and short yardage passing. I believe we have a good cahnce to win this game if the play callers don’t screw around with dumb plays. I hope I’m right. Go Denver and go Tim Tebow.
We conquered this territory with our bodies and souls, then we watered it with our tears.
Go Denver!
Well
ultimately I want a Broncos win and if Tebow’s the way to do it, then so be it. GO BRONCOS!!!
Brad James
by the new Bradfather on Dec 19, 2010 1:41 AM MST reply actions
That says it all bro!
We conquered this territory with our bodies and souls, then we watered it with our tears.
Go Denver!
I want to see some fire!
I’ve been a fan of the Broncos since the "71-‘72 season and I’ve seen my share of misery as a Bronco fan.
I want to see the same kind of fire in Tebow as I saw in Elway. I want to know in my gut that whenever TT is on the field there is hope. Yes, he is a rookie and he WILL make mistakes but if I see some fire. I will be content with a loss if he shows that he has “It”, that desire to win even when the game is clearly lost. Desire to win is intangable.
by WyoBronco on Dec 19, 2010 2:53 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
I want to leave this game feeling like we don't need to draft a QB next year.
Would I love the legacy of Tebow to begin with a victory in the black hole, YES!!!
by ThorpeBroncosfan on Dec 19, 2010 6:43 AM MST reply actions
That's
why Eddie Royal’s an Eternal Bronco to me, he kicked trash in his NFL debut in front of Skeletor and that knob with the spiked shoulder pads.
Brad James
by the new Bradfather on Dec 19, 2010 9:42 AM MST up reply actions
History
History will record the first start of Tebow’s career. Personally, I would rather that it reflect that it was in Denver at Mile HIgh Stadium (I’ll skip the Invesco Field part).. The zeal to see him start now may be tempered later with the realization that Oakland as the opponent and the site may go down as part of Tebow’s legacy. A win will not bother any Broncos fan. A loss will live forever.
My thoughts on history are the other way around.
Another loss at this point will not bother me, as long as the kid plays well. A win, on the other hand, will live forever.
Take my advice, I never use it.
by azdenfan on Dec 19, 2010 7:13 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
The result will live forever.
A win would be huge and, therefore, wouldn’t bother Broncos fans because it will be celebrated. A loss will not be huge, but will still live forever and leave a permanent scar.
My expectations might be more realistic this morning
I think I forgot he is a rookie and it is his first start. That said I expect him to struggle, and respond positively. I expect it will be a tough game, but Denver will be competitive… a win would the high-lite of the season.
David T
What I want to see
1) Does he show accuracy to throw into small NFL windows?
2) Does he get the ball out quick enough after making a decision?
3) Can he keep the ball in a place to avoid strips?
Rookie mistakes (botched snaps, ugly non-throwing hand interceptions, etc.) I can live with.
by admill on Dec 19, 2010 8:27 AM MST via mobile reply actions
i just want to see him play
His first NFL start I’m not really expecting a whole lot, I just want to see some flashes of talent, and to see flashes that he could be a QB at this level.
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Go Broncos!!!!!
by powderaddict on Dec 19, 2010 8:38 AM MST via mobile reply actions
For the argument that says its best for him to
sit a whole year, “absorbing” then go in year 2. Let’s simply call 13 games “a season” and call the next 7 games (the last 3 and next year’s pre-season) “pre-season” for Tebow. 13 games is not that different from 16, he’s sat enough, absorbed enough, heck, 13 games is a full season when in college! All I want from Tebow is hope.
by rubincarterrocks on Dec 19, 2010 8:42 AM MST reply actions
Agree with Admill and a few others above
THe W doesnt matter today. Neither do the stats. I expect him to struggle and I hate to say it, but the Broncos to lose. Oakland’s running game in a must win game gives them a huge advantage. Im sure that they will throw all kinds of craziness at Tebow.
What I’ll be looking for are the following. Anything positive here will be something on which to build:
1. Arm Strength. Can he amp it up for the long outs and into the small windows? Does he show some touch?
2. Head. Can he keep his composure while the pocket and the game falls apart around him?
3. Leadership. Will he be able to translate his high energy antics that work with boys into a leadership style that will earn the respect of professional men?
by FanSinceTheDonHornEra on Dec 19, 2010 8:44 AM MST reply actions
No TV for me
Being out in New England, I’ll have to rely on shortvideo clips of + or – plays to get firts recation to Tim Tebow. When I get a chance to watch the replay on NFLN I hope to see a calm QB that tries all the necessary type of passes, a vocal leader that keeps his wits about him, an offense that is working with him to be successful ( improve over last week), and I don’t really care about his stats (I believe in what Belichek says “stats are for losers”). The defense and special teams have a role in the game today and Tim is not out there for thsoe squads so the W or no W is NOT all Tebow’s doing. I don’t want the Raiders to feel that they got to Tebow. These last three games can tell us a lot about Tebow’s fuutre as a QB and the Broncos future w/ Tebow as a QB. GO BRONCOS ( it feels good to come out of hibernation as a bronco fan)
No TV for me, either...
and I’m less than 300 miles from Oakland as the crow flies! Instead, I get the steelers/jets game. Normally, I get either the dolts or faders. Thinking that since the dolts played on Thursday I thought for sure that we would get the faders game, but I guess that the LA stations are sick of them as well as the rest of the country…
"It's all over Fat Man" - Tom Jackson to John Madden 1977 AFC Championship Game
RIP Barrel Man - 12/5/09
by DesertBroncoFan on Dec 19, 2010 11:46 AM MST up reply actions
I live just 40 miles south of Oakland,
very rainy, windy today. If Tebow is a Thoroughbred then let’s hope he’s a “mudder”! go Tebow and go Broncos
by rubincarterrocks on Dec 19, 2010 11:04 AM MST reply actions
It was said by many before me
But I want to see how the rest of the tead plays for him. The O, D and ST I want to see them fired up and fighting !!
One more thing.
I know it was only preseason, but in Tebow’s only extended action (against Minnesota), didn’t Decker have 10 or 11 catches? Maybe the insertion of Tebow will have a positive impact on Decker, as they seemed to have some pretty immediate chemistry. Decker came on as a kick returner against AZ. Maybe today will be as much a coming out party for # 87 as for # 15.
- Nick
"Know the enemy, know yourself, and victory is never in doubt, not in a hundred battles."
- Sun Tzu
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