Denver Broncos News: Horse Tracks - 12-20-10
by John Bena on Dec 20, 2010 6:29 AM MST
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Rookie QB Tebow shows promise as Broncos fall 39-23 at Oakland - The Denver Post
There was greatness here. There was ultraconservative play-calling too, along with the typically horrific Denver defense. But on exhibit through the rain and chill Sunday afternoon was a greatness of will, great athleticism and far greater hope that the Broncos will have better days ahead.
Tebow stands tall, excites fans in Raiders' Black Hole - The Denver Post
Tim Tebow knew exactly what was awaiting him Sunday afternoon as he ran out of the tunnel at Oakland Coliseum, the first time he would take the field as an NFL starting quarterback.
Paige: For now, Tebow is a one-man Band-Aid - The Denver Post
Tim Tebow started Sunday for the first time in his NFL career and proved he will be the Broncos' starter for a long time in this man's league.
Krieger: Revelation, or ho-hum proof Tim's human? - The Denver Post
You won't hear me say this often, but in this case it's true: Josh McDaniels was right.
Analysis: Broncos put Tebow in "bubble-wrap" gameplan - The Denver Post
In the end, there was good and some not-so-good, but after the first day of the rest of Tim Tebow's NFL life, it's clear he is a work in progress as a quarterback and he is behind center for a team that may be a bigger work in progress overall.
Will Broncos make defense No. 1 priority in draft? - The Denver Post
As the NFL standings read now, the Broncos are a winning coin flip away from having the No. 2 pick in the upcoming draft.
Tebow support very vocal - The Denver Post
Broncos fans watching the debut of rookie quarterback Tim Tebow as an NFL starter Sunday expressed great support for the former Florida star being on the field.
Even if healthy, Orton unlikely to start final games - The Denver Post
To be clear, Tim Tebow played in the game Sunday because the Broncos' usual starting quarterback, Kyle Orton, was out with battered ribs.
Some Broncos fans brave the Oakland crowd | All Things Broncos
I spent the first quarter of Sunday’s game looking for Broncos and Tebow fans in the stands at Oakland Coliseum, those brave souls who don their Broncos gear into one of the hostile stadiums in the league.
Tebow’s TD run nearly didn’t happen | All Things Broncos
Broncos rookie quarterback ran the wrong play on a 3rd-and-24, and the result, instead of disaster, was the most electric touchdown run of the season. Here, let’s let Tebow describe how it happened.
Dusty Saunders: Tebow Time will produce big TV ratings - The Denver Post
Local audience ratings, at least at the start of the telecast, will be the best KCNC-Channel 4 has had in recent weeks broadcasting Broncos games.
NFL Game Center: Denver Broncos at Oakland Raiders - 2010 Week 15
After watching his team commit three turnovers, allow two big play touchdowns to Tim Tebow and commit a penalty that wiped out a score in the first half, coach Tom Cable didn't hold back at halftime.
DeSean Jackson punt return; NFL playoff picture clears up - Peter King - SI.com
We yell a lot in the fifth-floor Rockefeller Center viewing room of NBC's Football Night in America. Up to nine games in high-def on a big wall, and the 12 to 15 people in the room putting together the Sunday night show get a little excited from time to time. Oh, Rodney Harrison yells, often at big hits. Tony Dungy even yells a time or two per Sunday. I yell more than I ever did in a press box, where yelling is verboten. But I don't recall the sound coming out of the viewing room ever sounding like it did at 4:18 p.m. Sunday. It was something like:
What we learned from the Eagles' 38-31 win over the Giants - Andrew Perloff - SI.com
Five things we learned from the Eagles' improbable 38-31 win over the Giants:
Lukewarm starting debut for Tebow - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
One game, and the hearts in Tim Tebow(notes) Nation went from a steady pitter-patter … straight to the full bore pounding of a Led Zeppelin drum solo. Yes, his first NFL start was encouraging, but the tidal wave of Twitter posts about Tebow "doing his thing," well, they’re a little premature.
Emotional Ryan fires up Jets - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
The wheels were coming off the New York Jets. Consecutive ugly losses, a two-game streak without a touchdown, an embarrassing controversy involving the strength coach tripping an opponent. If it wasn’t one thing, it was everything else.
Ravens serve notice to fellow contenders - NFL - Yahoo! Sports
For all they had accomplished in 2010, the Baltimore Ravens went into Sunday’s showdown with the defending Super Bowl champion New Orleans Saints as a team widely defined by its shortcomings.
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Woody is doing his best standup routine in years.
What’s wrong with these McHeads? If McCoy owned an ice cream truck, he’d sell only one flavor — vanilla. POW!
Where did the game plan come from — a Cracker Jack box? ZING!
If McCoy did a script, it was “Ishtar.” BADABING!
Rimshots mine. ; )
In good times and bad times, I'm a Bronco fan. Sucka.
Wow an "Ishtar" reference?
Stale.
Some people got nothing to be angry about so they're angry about nothing. - Doug Stanhope
I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else where I was capable of thinking for myself. - Thomas Jefferson
by MrFNSunshine on Dec 20, 2010 7:59 AM MST up reply actions
I'm sure there were 30 or 40 more little gems
that started with “Have you ever noticed…” but he probably ran out of room for his massive wit.
In good times and bad times, I'm a Bronco fan. Sucka.
by broncosmontana on Dec 20, 2010 10:32 AM MST up reply actions
Did he tell any Jimmy Carter jokes while he was at it?
Some people got nothing to be angry about so they're angry about nothing. - Doug Stanhope
I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else where I was capable of thinking for myself. - Thomas Jefferson
by MrFNSunshine on Dec 20, 2010 12:42 PM MST up reply actions
Spiro Agnew.
Whoever he was.
In good times and bad times, I'm a Bronco fan. Sucka.
by broncosmontana on Dec 20, 2010 1:46 PM MST up reply actions
Arguably the most interesting week all year in terms of Denver sports...
…And Woody is mailing it in.
by Velveeta on Dec 20, 2010 9:17 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
At least the crickets are laughing. : )
In good times and bad times, I'm a Bronco fan. Sucka.
by broncosmontana on Dec 20, 2010 10:32 AM MST up reply actions
Does yahoo sports have it out for the broncos? I can’t recall a single positive article from them!
by Sneaks88 on Dec 20, 2010 7:02 AM MST via mobile reply actions
If you think that's bad
Don’t read the comments
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
My ship finally came in, but it was the Kobayashi Maru.
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Yahoo Sports does not have one
writer that has a brain. They are all clueless hacks. They never write anything intelligent
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 20, 2010 10:25 AM MST up reply actions
Patrick Peterson will look great returning punts and playing CB in Orange
I had fun watching much of the game yesterday in-spite of Mike McCoy, Wink and our woeful D.
Tebow was fantastic for a guy that hadn’t played meaningful football since August. I have no earthly idea how McD and Studs kept this guy on the bench for most of this season. What a waste of a unique and talented player. Home game next week vs the worst pass defense in the NFL. I can’t wait. Unfortunately, I’m terrified Studs will start Orton or McCoy will keep running Ball up the middle for -2 on all 1st downs and most 2nd downs. At the end of the day, Tebow played great, all our coaches were again exposed for the frauds they are and our draft position improved.
Great results for Denver yesterday in the other games. We are now sitting at #2 overall draft pick thanks to wins by Cincy, Buffalo, Carolina and Detroit. With Houston losing to the Titans, I’m a bit afraid we are that much closer to Gary Kubiak as our next HC.
Even better, San Diego is a long shot to make the playoffs after KC, NY Jets and Ravens won. There will be no wild card spot for the Dolts and KC will have to lose at home to the Titans or Raiders. It’s possible, but I think the 2010 season will end for San Diego at the same time it ends for Denver. Will be great to watch Rivers walk of Investco field with a disgusted look on his ugly face. Then I’ll get to watch KC get clocked by the Ravens in round 1 at Arrowhead by 20+ points.
Tim Tebow > Kyle Orton
by McGeorge on Dec 20, 2010 7:40 AM MST reply actions 2 recs
"I’m a bit afraid we are that much closer to Gary Kubiak as our next HC"
LALALALALALALALALALA!!! NOT LISTENING NOT LISTENING! I liked everything else you said but that.
God I hope they aim higher than Kubiak. I like him as an OC but I’d like to think we can do better than that for our next head coach.
Some people got nothing to be angry about so they're angry about nothing. - Doug Stanhope
I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else where I was capable of thinking for myself. - Thomas Jefferson
by MrFNSunshine on Dec 20, 2010 7:51 AM MST up reply actions
At least
he would take Dennison and the ZBS back with him. Even when all our RBs got hurt and we got Tatum Bell out of the phone booth we ran the ball better. It became a Bronco staple, it didn’t matter who ran the ball for us. Now we have a #12 draft pick who’s almost always on the bench and an OL that Barry Sanders couldn’t run behind.
I dream of the days of Shanny’s running scheme. I’ve heard Moreno won’t fit that scheme, but it’s not like he says healthy enough to play in the current one.
RBs are a dime a dozen and their shelf life is so short. That’s why you don’t take them 12 overall in the first place. No need to craft Denver’s future based on a decent (not great) RB like Moreno. If he can’t adjust to ZBS, bye….
Tim Tebow > Kyle Orton
Denver fans dreams.
Rivival of the Orange Crush defense to go along with an offense fueled by ZBS and a gunslinger QB who can do miracles.
Sorry to scare you, but with three HCs needing $$$ from Bowlen in 2011, we’ll go cheap. Kubiak will be cheap and desperate. It’s also the lazy thing for Bowlen to do, just like hiring Xanders as the GM.
Bowlen and Ellis are very lazy and have been for years.
Tim Tebow > Kyle Orton
Sadly...
I think Kubiak is the best of “cheap, bad” options. Jim Fassel is my nightmare scenario.
But I’m (naively) optimistic that, while understanding there is a rational fear of another first-time HC, a promising DC like Perry Fewell or Sean McDermott won’t be that expensive. Again, I understand if the team/fans are hesitant on another first-time HC, I’d just prefer that option to a mediocre retread.
The game planning called for a heavy dose of running
Oakland was ranked 7th in Pass Defense and 26th against the run.
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
My ship finally came in, but it was the Kobayashi Maru.
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The raiders sold out to stop the run and dared the Broncos to pass
by always broncs on Dec 20, 2010 8:28 AM MST via mobile up reply actions
Our game planning is beyond rigid and predictable
It’s sad how robotic and stupid Denver is in the coaching department. When it was very clear by the 2nd quarter that the running game wasn’t going to work with Ball and our O-line, you’d think the coaches could adjust. Think again. Per usual, our coaches were paralyzed by a changing environment. Robots like predictability. Heaven forbid something unpredictable occur to throw our robot coaches out of whack. For a team that preached versatility, we have the least versatile coaching staff ever assembled.
McD struggled greatly to adapt and alter his plans when those plans didn’t come together. The coaching staff he left behind has the same flaws. In fact, they are even worse in this department.
Thank goodness for a player like Tebow, a guy than can score on a 40 yard run when he didn’t even run the play McCoy sent in from the sideline. That was supposed to be a draw to Buckhalter. Mas Tebow por favor.
Tim Tebow > Kyle Orton
THIS
the playcalling was horrible
"Bombs dropping down overhead. Underground. It's instilled to want to live." -EV
Agree big time
a jr. high coach could have come up with a better plan, and/or, called a better game. Was there anyone in the US who could have anticipated that the Raiders would sell out against the run and make us beat them with the pass this game? Yet the game plan called for emphasis on the run…. and then there was no adapting to what the Raiders did! How hard would it have been to roll TT left/right and make short underneath passes? This is what he’s been doing all through college. Do we have the roll-out in our playbook? And I want to add to the common statement already out there just so I can vent… that play calling when backed up at our own goal line that eventually became a safety was a nail in the coffin for Studs to ever be considered for a HC position, anywhere! No imagination, no understanding of what the other team was doing, no understanding of what was happening with his own team, bottom line… no set of cahonies!
by rubincarterrocks on Dec 20, 2010 9:37 AM MST up reply actions
Mike McCoy is ruining his chances of ever becoming a coach of consequence with each passing week.
Tim Tebow > Kyle Orton
Mccoy wasn't much at Carolina either
Delhomme and Smith made him look adequate as a QB coach but he never has demonstrated anything remarkable IMO.
"as in football so in life"
Well said
You would have thought with the offensive numbers Carolina put up back then that McCoy would at least be decent…I’m thinking no…this is another guy benefiting from having some superb players.
"Bombs dropping down overhead. Underground. It's instilled to want to live." -EV
The Broncos could
benefit from having some superb players. =)
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
My ship finally came in, but it was the Kobayashi Maru.
Follow me on Twitter @MHR_KaptainKirk
Or in this case
each non-passing week.
Zing!
"Accept the fact that some days you're the pigeon, and some days you're the statue."
by TheMorseFile on Dec 20, 2010 11:14 AM MST up reply actions
We could do worse than Kubes
As long as they get a GM to handle personnel and a DC that knows what the hell he is doing, we’d be fine.
I found it pretty refreshing to have half the game to be interested in. The defense sucks, but it was fun to watch Tebow learn on the job.
"Bombs dropping down overhead. Underground. It's instilled to want to live." -EV
At 5-9 with a team the usually underachieves, not even sure that qualifies as “just ok”. But it does qualify him to be HC in Denver since Ellis and Bowlen are mentally AWOL. Hopefully he hires good assistants, which is clearly becoming McD’s downfall with hindsight.
Tim Tebow > Kyle Orton
So who are you liking for potential candidates McG
Apologize if you’ve already posted this. I haven’t been able to keep up as much as i’d like to.
"as in football so in life"
I’m only excited about future GM candidates, which I think we need to make the call on a HC and everything else.
Unfortunately, I think pushover Brain Xanders will be the next GM (for real this team) and he’ll hire whomever Ellis and Bowlen tell him too. Then the new coach will push Xanders over and we’ll have McD Shanny part III.
I love me some Tim Tebow at QB, but I still weep for our future.
Tim Tebow > Kyle Orton
Agree on the GM perspective
I like Eric Decosta from the Ravens, but that’s probably because they’re my 2nd favorite team.
"as in football so in life"
Eric Decosta as our GM would be too good to be true. It was also require effort on Ellis’s part so my hopes are low.
Tim Tebow > Kyle Orton
If we don't make a serious run at
Harbaugh, mark my words, we will regret it down the road.
by rubincarterrocks on Dec 20, 2010 9:51 AM MST up reply actions
Flag! for mentioning Ellis on a Monday
that dude is the root of the problem!!
"as in football so in life"
Agree -- Woody's questions to Studesville and McCoy were right on...
You mean on the Denver two yard line we had NO other option but to run the ball, twice? That the only other option was ONE pass play that worked earlier in the game? No other ideas than that? And these guys are supposedly coaching to prove they deserve promotions???
No creativity. Agree McGeorge — “robotic and stupid.”
Well said, Woody.
Woodrow may not be the most popular here, but he’s pretty good at taking the Broncos’ pulse. He nailed it today.
it's hard to blame the o-line.
Not many o-lines in the NFL, specially ones with two rookies can run just about every single play. I felt bad for the o-line because they can’t block 10 guys. Alot of the runs if tebow would have even done a bootleg or any kind of playaction he would have burnt the raiders deep. The play before the safety would have been a perfect time for playaction or even a screen. It’s clear stud isn’t out to win any games….
Also want to add in that peole who play madden all day long could have made a better game plan than McCoy.
by tiderfootball09 on Dec 20, 2010 9:02 AM MST reply actions
First I have to say I’ve seen almost all of the Bronco games since 1969. I’ve seen them in person in 6 cities. They are the only sports team I follow in the only sport I follow. Have to say that because “only Nixon can go to China”.
1) Why was Tebow on the bench?
2) Why was the game planning is beyond rigid and predictable?
3) Why was Tebow 8 of 16 and never asked to read the coverages?
I’d say that its because he’s not ready for the pros but that would imply that I think he will be ready someday. Maybe he’ll be like Vick and get his act together in 10 years for another team. I’ve been watching the ReWind of the game and I see no sign that the staff trusts him at all. Its hard to call someone a leader when they lack intelligence, understanding and insight. After 10 months in the pros and 10 years plus playing organized football, he should be a lot further along. From what I saw I’d think he’s a liability even running the practice team. McD really dug us into a hole and now that hole is black.
Dude...release your hate
He wasn’t THAT bad. There are things to work on, but I sure did see potential when he played. He’s a rookie…no rookie QB looks polished his first game starting
"Bombs dropping down overhead. Underground. It's instilled to want to live." -EV
Really?!
I’ve been watching the ReWind of the game and I see no sign that the staff trusts him at all. Its hard to call someone a leader when they lack intelligence, understanding and insight.
I watched it again too, and to me the staff is the ones with no leadership, intelligence, understanding, and insight.
Broncomaniacs.... UNITE!
Tebow has the respect of
the team. Read the comments from Haggan, Loyd, and Gaffney. They did not say they didn’t like Orton, as a matter of fact I think they do, but it is clear they see something special in TT and want to play with him. Athletes simply want to play with superior athletes and leaders. Those who they think give them the best chance to win.
by rubincarterrocks on Dec 20, 2010 9:41 AM MST up reply actions
+1000
It’s the nice guy syndrome. Orton’s a nice guy but when it’s time to choose most will choose whoever gives them the best chance to win.
"as in football so in life"
And despite his demeanor off the field, Tebow is a bad man on the field.
"Who says Tim Tebow can't throw the ball...? Whoever said that, they didn't know what they were talking about."
-Gus Johnson
Tebow's
the baddest man in the whole daym town.
And it’s bad, bad Tim Beatdown
The baddest man in the whole damned town
Badder than old King Kong
And meaner than a junkyard dog
"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
- Thomas Alva Edison
"Success is not a place at which one arrives, but rather... the spirit with which one undertakes and continues the journey."
- Alex Noble
When the cuttin was done, they sure sang a different tune
You don’t tug on Superman’s cape
You don’t spit into the wind
You don’t pull the mask off the old Lone Ranger
And you don’t mess around with Tim
"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
- Thomas Alva Edison
"Success is not a place at which one arrives, but rather... the spirit with which one undertakes and continues the journey."
- Alex Noble
Careful ...
Otherwise you might summon the ghost of Evil Tim Tebow.
"We will be a physically and mentally tough football team. And it's not something you talk about, it's something you live your life with.’’
Will Muschamp, December 14, 2010
ROFL
Its so TRUE!!!
That pic is of EVIL TEBOW!!!! Good Tebow said Oh my Lord I’ve made a mistake!! and EVIL TEBOW said F THIS P%SS% A$$ SH#$, I’m taking this rock and stuffin it straight down that BI%#$!!!!
I can just hear the animal roar emanating from him!!!!
"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
- Thomas Alva Edison
"Success is not a place at which one arrives, but rather... the spirit with which one undertakes and continues the journey."
- Alex Noble
er... was referring to the pic with Cbuck next to him where it looks
like he is about to go on a killing spree.
"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
- Thomas Alva Edison
"Success is not a place at which one arrives, but rather... the spirit with which one undertakes and continues the journey."
- Alex Noble
I’m worried for Buck’s wellbeing
"Who says Tim Tebow can't throw the ball...? Whoever said that, they didn't know what they were talking about."
-Gus Johnson
lol because he is so close to that beast?
"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
- Thomas Alva Edison
"Success is not a place at which one arrives, but rather... the spirit with which one undertakes and continues the journey."
- Alex Noble
I just don’t want him to get any pieces of Texans on him come Sunday.
"Who says Tim Tebow can't throw the ball...? Whoever said that, they didn't know what they were talking about."
-Gus Johnson
hahaha
Thats a valid concern. If he keeps throwing himself in front of blockers with reckless abandon, he may get some torn apart defenders on him as the incredible Tebow tears through more guys. Its sure to be a site worthy of a really bad gory horror flick!!
"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
- Thomas Alva Edison
"Success is not a place at which one arrives, but rather... the spirit with which one undertakes and continues the journey."
- Alex Noble
Maybe Bowlen will hire you as HC Tyger
You apparenty have a vision
We conquered this territory with our bodies and souls, then we watered it with our tears.
Go Denver!
Whatever man
The best part about Tebow was when the Raiders fans were all chanting “Tebow Sucks” Tebow runs for a 45 yard TD on a a broken play.
Tebow conquers his haters whereas a guy like Orton takes the fetal position and succumbs.
I can’t wait for the Houston game. This Tim Tebow kid is pure energy, heart and excitement.
There was a moment yesterday when a Raider player tried to help Tim up after a 6 yard gain. Tebow pushed his hand away, jumped up and ran back to the huddle. My heart almost exploded.
Tim Tebow > Kyle Orton
You summed it all up perfectly
"Who says Tim Tebow can't throw the ball...? Whoever said that, they didn't know what they were talking about."
-Gus Johnson
You wait
if they do a bait and switch and don’t say who’s starting against Houston, making us believe it will be TT just to fill the seats, but then start Orton….. whoo! It could get real nasty if Orton runs out to start the game.
by rubincarterrocks on Dec 20, 2010 9:44 AM MST up reply actions
Makes no sense, so I’d give it a 50/50 shot.
"Who says Tim Tebow can't throw the ball...? Whoever said that, they didn't know what they were talking about."
-Gus Johnson
Whatever man
The best part about Tebow was when the Raiders fans were all chanting “Tebow Sucks” Tebow runs for a 45 yard TD on a a broken play.
Tebow conquers his haters whereas a guy like Orton takes the fetal position and succumbs.
I can’t wait for the Houston game. This Tim Tebow kid is pure energy, heart and excitement.
There was a moment yesterday when a Raider player tried to help Tim up after a 6 yard gain. Tebow pushed his hand away, jumped up and ran back to the huddle. My heart almost exploded.
Tim Tebow > Kyle Orton
Feels good to use that particular organ again, does it? ; )
Maybe that’s why they’re bringing him along slowly. They don’t want everyone to show up next week and have 70,000 heart attacks.
In good times and bad times, I'm a Bronco fan. Sucka.
by broncosmontana on Dec 20, 2010 1:48 PM MST up reply actions
You should diversify your sport interests Tyger
It would give you a better understanding of the game and possibly answer your 3 questions.
1) He was on the bench because the stategy from the beginning as it is with many teams was to give him a year to learn and absorb before throwing him into live fire. This is not an unusual strategy it’s common in the NFL
2)It was beyond rigid and predictable because the coaches are rigid and predictable. Anyone paying attention to Tebow’s past would know that he thrives in an improvisational environment (see 40 yd TD run).
3) This is an assumption on your part when in reality he posted a 100 QB rating that could have been even higher san 2 dropped passes. Nonetheless a 100 QB rating for a first start rookie is exceptional.
Your summation only confirms that the staff is suspect, and speculating that he’s a liability may illuminate a predisposed bias.
"as in football so in life"
by asinsoin on Dec 20, 2010 9:37 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
You were nice, that’s what made it so brutal. No possible come back, dude just has to take his medicine and shut his pie hole.
Tim Tebow > Kyle Orton
by McGeorge on Dec 20, 2010 9:46 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
LoL!!!
A pessimist sees the difficulties in every opportunity.
An optimist sees the opportunities in every difficulty.
- Winston Churchill
First (and only, in our lifetimes) team to three consecutive SB wins!!!! ( =
by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Dec 20, 2010 9:50 AM MST up reply actions
That's funny
We conquered this territory with our bodies and souls, then we watered it with our tears.
Go Denver!
Dude your an Idiot
Not one point you have makes and sense and everything you said is complete BS
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 20, 2010 10:31 AM MST up reply actions
Thanks John!!!
The only bad thing I noticed about Our new QB, is his lack of top speed… I never really noticed watching his college games, but it was quite evident this game.
He has great quickness/burst, but top speed isn’t WR or CB-like… Which I can certainly live with… We just need to somehow get Peyton Manning’s ‘vision’ and ‘awareness’ into Tim, and We’ll have no worries for the future of Our QB position. Ahhh, all I can say is it’s good to have a QB who makes the other team worry again. It’s been quite a while, and I don’t know how anyone can deny all the good that entails.
A pessimist sees the difficulties in every opportunity.
An optimist sees the opportunities in every difficulty.
- Winston Churchill
First (and only, in our lifetimes) team to three consecutive SB wins!!!! ( =
by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Dec 20, 2010 9:33 AM MST reply actions
Agree on topend speed
But was surprised at the number of 1st contact broken tackles…dudes a horse and not easy to bring down!
"as in football so in life"
LOL - He's a QB!
Come one guys, get your expectations in check. He should not even be running the ball more than 1-2 times a game. The coaches are putting him, and us, at risk without care.
by Brian Conrad on Dec 20, 2010 9:54 AM MST up reply actions
They surely are
Which is why it’d be crazy awesome if he did have that kind of speed. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not “doggin’” him, I was just trying to find, objectively mind you, something negative, LoL…. It’s hard to see it, when there is so much positive about the guy!
A pessimist sees the difficulties in every opportunity.
An optimist sees the opportunities in every difficulty.
- Winston Churchill
First (and only, in our lifetimes) team to three consecutive SB wins!!!! ( =
by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Dec 20, 2010 9:58 AM MST up reply actions
The many things Tebow needs to work on (reads, footwork, audibles, game experience, progressions) are ALL (key word) things that hard work and experience can fix. He’s got the natural things like arm strength, athleticism, leadership, size, height, effort, desire, improvisation, etc in spades and spades and spades.
From what I hear, guy is a hard worker. So that bodes well doesn’t it! I’m actually happy today… After a loss, if you can believe that.
Tim Tebow > Kyle Orton
by McGeorge on Dec 20, 2010 9:54 AM MST up reply actions 2 recs
Same
Was the best scenario in my mind. TT showed well, proved the game isnt too big or fast for him. Made some nice throws (sorry I’m not in the floating duck crowd) He threw it hard when he needed to and showed touch and trajectory when it was the right throw to make. that 20 yard out across the field answered any arm strength question.
My biggest fear was that we would win and drop draft positions, we need a D stud in the worst way.
"as in football so in life"
I have the same biggest fear. And the fear any of these current coaches are around next season.
Shouldn’t be a problem based on yesterday’s game.
Tim Tebow > Kyle Orton
Agreed
I don’t think we need to fear this staff being around next year now. For as interesting of a week last week was in regards to Tebow playing, I will be interested to see how they go about Orton and Tebow this week. Listening to comments from his teammates, he should be playing and the training wheels need to come off a bit.
Still don’t understand why people are so bothered by the arc on Tebow’s long ball. He showed touch, he showed the ability to put the ball where his guy can catch the ball, and he did put some zip on a couple.
The only problem with his throws is that some people WANT there to be something wrong with them.
by f*thehaters on Dec 20, 2010 10:49 AM MST up reply actions
DING DING DING!
"Who says Tim Tebow can't throw the ball...? Whoever said that, they didn't know what they were talking about."
-Gus Johnson
by plainview88 on Dec 20, 2010 10:55 AM MST up reply actions
Some people just aren’t happy no matter what. So they pick apart how his spiral looks or that he puts air under his long ball. Whatever. The guy is a gamer and has ‘it’. I haven’t really been able to say that about a QB we’ve had since Elway. Watch Big Ben once in a while. Not pretty. But he gets the job done. Only difference is he has a supreme D. If we can build that around Tebow – good things could happen.
However, eventually Tebow is going to have to learn when to slide and not take too many shots.
Additionally, can you think of a more trial by fire then throwing him in at Oakland, against a D that blitzed or stacked 8 in the box every play in terrible weather and with a terrible performance by your D? I still felt like Tebow could pull it out yesterday until the safety.
I’m going to stop now because even thinking about McCoy’s play calling is raising my blood pressure.
Most people are running around - umbilical cord in hand - looking for a new place to plug in
Too many Mc’s on the staff! McGeorge wants to be the only Mc around MHR in 2011.
Tim Tebow > Kyle Orton
I knew it. That was your motive all along!
In good times and bad times, I'm a Bronco fan. Sucka.
by broncosmontana on Dec 20, 2010 1:51 PM MST up reply actions
too bad though
Because I’m a Mc, too. : )
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by broncosmontana on Dec 20, 2010 1:51 PM MST up reply actions
you might consider
just going “george” for 2011. maybe get the mojo back on track…
I'm not sugarcoating this.
People need to put things in perspective
and I think this is the hardest thing about being a fan. Eveyone wants to have that magic solution that changes things immediately. Same could be said for some with Tebow yesterday, they expected him to be out there slinging every ball beautifully and perfectly, to be able to play like he was in mid-season form. Tebow hasn’t played a full game since last year at Florida, and now plays his first one at the end of the season.
I thought he did great yesterday. People want to make the decision about whether or not he’s going to be the next great QB today because being patient is hard. If we are patient we’ll be able to see what he can bring, but from the little we’ve seen so far I’m optimistic in what he can do.
Agreed. He does have all that!
Plus a bit more. I wanted to see whether he was able to make something out of nothing as in the rushing TD. He did exactly that. Made me feel pretty good. I think he has all the right stuff to do well.
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Go Denver!
Saw that limited top speed, too
He’s no Vick. But then, perhaps he’ll learn to be a winning NFL QB that much faster.
Is there MHR analysis on what has gone wrong with the defense?
With so many new articles I am having a hard time finding some.
Thanks in advance.
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It's simple
Dumervil makes everyone better because he’s our only good pass rusher. Without him, we have no pass rush. Without a pass rush, we can’t stop the pass. Since we can’t stop the pass, teams have their way with us.
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by Sayre Bedinger on Dec 20, 2010 11:16 AM MST up reply actions
The give-up punt was what got me.
Sure, a pass on 4th and 15 was a low probability play, but the punt they called was a zero probability play.
by Velveeta on Dec 20, 2010 9:44 AM MST via mobile reply actions
I wonder who will work out with all of the recievers
in the off-season this year? That could be awkward. Best scenario would be Tim of course.
by rubincarterrocks on Dec 20, 2010 9:46 AM MST reply actions
Yeah, he'll be having work outs in his back yard!
LOL – Likely he’ll contact a QB specialist coach to help him continue developing. Have to wait and see who Elway brings in.
by Brian Conrad on Dec 20, 2010 9:56 AM MST up reply actions
Bring in Gruden!
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With where Denver will be picking in the next draft
if they don’t draft a blue chip defender, like Pat Peterson, with their first pick, I will be very, very angry indeed. I’m so tired of watching a defense that can’t stop anyone (though having a ball control offense that can give the defense a break will ALSO be important to work on, to be fair). But I am tired of several straight years of shoddy tackling. A new DC, and a draft focused on great tackling, smart defenders, and things could turn around in a hurry.
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The Sad Reality is PP was just replace Champ on a terrible defense
Unless the franchise tag sticks around in the new CBA, I can’t see Champ here next year. I think rather than corners, we need a pass rush. I don’t care who you are, a corner can’t cover anyone for 10-20 seconds while the Quarterback is sipping lemonade making his reads. We need a nasty pass rusher. We need someone besides Doom who will command double teams, and once we have that I think the corners we have will look MUCH better.
Problem is the DT or DE
that will be there when we pick have to many ? marks. Peterson is a complete player. He plays CB but he would also make a stud safety in the NFL at his size
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 20, 2010 10:56 AM MST up reply actions
I have no problems with drafting PP
but we better get him some solid help up front or he won’t make a difference for this defense.
IMO this draft is deep at DE and DT
and it is thin at CB and S. As the standing go right now we have 3 picks in the top 50 of the draft. We could take PP with our first pick and draft 2 DT/DE in the 2nd round
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 20, 2010 11:33 AM MST up reply actions
If we are arguing over which Defensive player to take, I will be ecstatic.
"Who says Tim Tebow can't throw the ball...? Whoever said that, they didn't know what they were talking about."
-Gus Johnson
by plainview88 on Dec 20, 2010 11:37 AM MST up reply actions
I wouldn't say argueing
but we are talking about which Defensive player to take
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 20, 2010 11:50 AM MST up reply actions
Oh absolutely
but remember Denver will be picking high every round, has multiple 2nd rounders, etc. So there will be many chances to fill holes. To me Peterson is just someone I’m much more sure about than I am about some of the DL’s mentioned as top picks in the next draft. but if they end up with a stud there I’ll be fine with that too. They need to draft DL, LB and secondary all. People who are complete players who can tackle would be a nice start.
Also, even if Champ does return, he’d likely be slowly shifted over to safety IMHO. I also think Goodman has looked better since he’s been healthier the last two weeks so I don’t think he’s as useless these days as some felt he was, he’d been playing hurt. But either way, you don’t pass up on a guy like Peterson imho. He can replace either Champ or Goodman eventually at least. Then you fill in the other gaps with subsequent picks.
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YA BABY TEBOW TIME IS FINNALY HERE
Tebow played a very good first half and if our defense could tackle we would be golden
I want Mike Nolan for HC and Elway for GM ELWAY ALL THE WAY BABY
GO BRONCOS Orange Crush 4ever
I agree with your first lines
on Tebow, and tackling
I don’t want Nolan for HC and Elways should be nowhere near the GM position (he’d be the first to tell you that); another, more figurehead position with the team would be cool though.
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Agree with you.
But Nolan sure is missed as DC (as DC – not HC). He did more with less last season. Bannon, Vickerson, Jamal, M Thomas, Ayers and DJ, Bailey are all as good or better than the starters in the same spots last season.
Wink has been bad IMO. Losing Elvis was a blow, but come on.
Tim Tebow > Kyle Orton
by McGeorge on Dec 20, 2010 10:10 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
+1!
Still can’t imagine what a different season We’d be looking at though, had We a healthy Dumervil all year. However, that doesn’t dismiss accountability on the D though, including DC.
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by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Dec 20, 2010 10:16 AM MST up reply actions
Something tells me Elvis alone wouldn’t be the difference between 3-11 and 10-4. Wink has underwhelmed and underperformed as DC this year. That’s my point and one that I hope the next HC believes as well.
No way the DC carousel should stop on Wink. We’ve fired much better than him. Continuity sucks if you are going to keep riding the wrong horse. Wink is the wrong horse as DC. McCoy as OC and Preifer as ST coach. All three are sub-par and have been since day 1.
Tim Tebow > Kyle Orton
by McGeorge on Dec 20, 2010 1:37 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I have to agree
Beginning of the season, We almost saw consistent enough blitzing. But far from what I would consider necessary. Too true that We’ve fired worse… And there seem to be some good candidates on the potential horizon.
A pessimist sees the difficulties in every opportunity.
An optimist sees the opportunities in every difficulty.
- Winston Churchill
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by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Dec 20, 2010 2:40 PM MST up reply actions
But would Nolan what to come back?
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Go Denver!
He was a Denver guy,
Sounded like he wasn’t a McD guy. I think there are a few of those in the city, maybe he can grab a drink with them all one night. At Invesco. Sold out. Standing room only. and in the parking lot. filled.
by Jordo5150 on Dec 20, 2010 10:50 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
My impression as well
Good point.
A pessimist sees the difficulties in every opportunity.
An optimist sees the opportunities in every difficulty.
- Winston Churchill
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by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Dec 20, 2010 11:23 AM MST up reply actions
Oh definitely, I'd be very happy to have him as a DC
he’s just one of those guys, like maybe Kubiak and Wade, who are great coordinators but may not make great coaches.
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One other thing about Tebow observed from sitting close to Broncos sideline yesterday
Don’t remember seeing a QB who not only warms up his arm on sidelines, but who does sprints down the sideline as well. he’s really one of a kind.
Oh, he also kneeled in prayer when that Raider (and referee) were down on the field for a few minutes.
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by underdog on Dec 20, 2010 10:06 AM MST reply actions 1 recs
You lucky "dog"
Would’ve loved to see TT’s first start. Watching on TV it looked like he energized the team. Saw one shot though of him sitting beside and talking to KO. Would love to have heard that conversation.
"as in football so in life"
Right...
And when Kyle and Brady got up and were talking to him after a failed drive, and Tebow got stopped trying to run for the first. Would have really liked to have known what words were exchanged. The look on Tebow’s face looked to be one of contemplating or understanding… Or both. Ahhh, to be privy.
A pessimist sees the difficulties in every opportunity.
An optimist sees the opportunities in every difficulty.
- Winston Churchill
First (and only, in our lifetimes) team to three consecutive SB wins!!!! ( =
by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Dec 20, 2010 10:18 AM MST up reply actions
How many times have you been to the Black Hole?
That’s gutsy… I thought about it, and I think I could only go, if I had a few Raider fan friends with me, so they could be the buffer between me and all the other Oakland fans. ( =
A pessimist sees the difficulties in every opportunity.
An optimist sees the opportunities in every difficulty.
- Winston Churchill
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by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Dec 20, 2010 10:21 AM MST up reply actions
I went to a Raider game once in the 80's. I thought at the last minute to leave my orange in the car.
What a good idea that turned out to be. I saw several Raider thugs whoop ass on Bronco fans. I had my kids with me too. I swore I’d never go to another Raider function. Of course this was in L.A. maybe things are different now.
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Go Denver!
No they aren't, really
One guy said he’d pop my friend (who was decked out more courageously than I in more Bronco attire) “if there weren’t cops watching!”
I convinced this same friend (who as I mentioned in another thread played center for a division 1 football team awhile ago) to remove the Broncos flags from his car when he was giving me a ride home, so that it would be smoother traveling.
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I didn't literally sit in the black hole mind you
but we werent too far around from it. But we were close to the field and the Broncos sideline, which I figured would be fairly safe. While there were a few other Bronco fans around us, they were few and far between yesterday which made us a target for abuse. There were some cool Raider fans we tailgated with and met along the way, who defied the stereotype, but unfortunately most of the rest of our experiences were really bad. It’s not a welcoming atmosphere at all, needless to say, and we saw (and heard) some really thuggish behavior beyond just the usual back and forth fun. Next time I go it will be when I have even more Bronco fans with me (when the Raiders go back to stinking and the Broncos are good again so there) or as you said some Raider fan friends. But I’d only been there once before and it wasn’t for a regular season game.
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Still....
I’ve thought of that many times, and it’s not that I’m scared. I just don’t want unnecessary violence. Toward me, or incidentally toward them, because of their ignorance. I’ll put a Raider fan in a hospital if necessary, but I will never invite it. Some of them seem to like to invite idiocy and/or violence as though it will get them a retirement package from the Oakland organization.
I’m sure that the majority of Raider fans are just like your average human, or any other team’s fans. Wouldn’t be provoked to violence unnecessarily…
But I’m sure there are also more than enough, that wouldn’t mind making someone wearing orange, to alter that orange hue as close to blood red as they could. I’ve heard some evil crap come from Raider fans, and I’m talkin’ from the heart evil.
And yes, I’ve heard close to the same from Broncos fans, not that I agree with it, but I’ve heard it… Just not nearly as much as I have from Raider fans, and I’ve met waaay more Broncos fans than Raiders fans.
A pessimist sees the difficulties in every opportunity.
An optimist sees the opportunities in every difficulty.
- Winston Churchill
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by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Dec 20, 2010 3:42 PM MST up reply actions
So - reply short
Kudos on going…. That rocks to have witnessed Tim’s first start!!! And all the more relieved that you made it out in one piece!
A pessimist sees the difficulties in every opportunity.
An optimist sees the opportunities in every difficulty.
- Winston Churchill
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by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Dec 20, 2010 3:43 PM MST up reply actions
Yeah. Tebow's a rare one.
What he lacks in he makes up for with determination. Certainly he gives us 110%.
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Go Denver!
I'm just amazed
I thought he played well and better then expected. I’m amazed that some were so down on his play.
I’m very excited for his future here at Denver, and I find all of this “draft Luck” stuff confusing with all of our defensive holes and how Tebow looked promising.
Yes and yes. You just summed up all my thoughts since the game.
"Who says Tim Tebow can't throw the ball...? Whoever said that, they didn't know what they were talking about."
-Gus Johnson
by plainview88 on Dec 20, 2010 10:40 AM MST up reply actions
There are a lot of people really high on his performance too
Skip Bayless, one of the biggest haters, said he was very impressed. As well as quite a few other people.
Remember, there are A LOT of people who have a vested interest in seeing him fail. There were a lot of people that were very vocal about his lack of ability to play in the NFL. This wasn’t a third round draft pick. This was one of the most analyzed quarterbacks in history, and people made a stand on either “good” or “bad” and it’s going to take a lot to move them.
The haters are going to dig their heels in as long as possible. They are dying to say “Told You So” rather than eat crow. So take their words with a grain of salt.
I’m sure Mel Kiper Jr. saw his performance as “flawed”
by Jordo5150 on Dec 20, 2010 10:54 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Bailey
I’m in london and followed a feed from the game and don’t remember Bailey’s name mentioned. Did he play, and if so,. how did he do? Thanks
If you don't hear him mentioned
He did his job.
by Jordo5150 on Dec 20, 2010 10:54 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
If you didn't hear his name mentioned
He did his job and the opposing Quarterback was well aware of that fact.
You left the last part out. ;-J
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An optimist sees the opportunities in every difficulty.
- Winston Churchill
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by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Dec 20, 2010 12:22 PM MST up reply actions
Yes he played
But as usual, had nothing to do. Most of the runs were away from him. The Raiders only threw at him once.
PS – Champ is not trying very hard at run defense right now. Can’t say I blame him.
by Brian Conrad on Dec 20, 2010 10:58 AM MST up reply actions
One of the early runs...
One of the early runs was right at Champ but he was held (almost bear hugged) and the freaking officials didn’t call it. I was livid. Good thing I don’t (or can’t) play professional sports. If that had been me, I would have punch that ref in the face. I mean really, what in the world was he doing??
by Shurakair on Dec 20, 2010 11:07 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I saw that and was there at the game, not sitting too far away from that
Of course all Raider fans did all game was whine about the officiating.
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Those type of things get to me so bad
And there’s no way to ‘challenge’ lack of calls…. But again, if there were, your average football game’d last like eight hours…. Okay five, if you limited each team like play challenges….. Either way, I’m more for having the officials call a fair game (at least every now and then) than incorporating some stupid ‘challenging a lack of call’ flag, idea.
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An optimist sees the opportunities in every difficulty.
- Winston Churchill
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by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Dec 20, 2010 12:25 PM MST up reply actions
ok
Well thats probably true I was hoping for a little more insight
not much to it
They went away from him all night. He didn’t get a chance to do much because they avoided him all night.
Can I ask a question here?
Did the coaching staff put together the ultra conservative game plan because they aren’t confident in Tebow passing wise or because they just didn’t want to ask to much of him too soon?
Is it possible they expand the playbook next game?
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I think so, Houston has the worst rated pass defense in the league.
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-Gus Johnson
by plainview88 on Dec 20, 2010 11:10 AM MST up reply actions
What do you think about the first question?
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Good question, but hard to answer.
Given the current staffs incompetency I’d say probably a lack of confidence, however, if that is the case even more reason to hope they’re soon gone.
"as in football so in life"
It seems like the coaching staff is getting bashed big time today
as opposed to the rest of the season. What is the difference?
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I don’t think anyone has thought much of them all year
"Who says Tim Tebow can't throw the ball...? Whoever said that, they didn't know what they were talking about."
-Gus Johnson
by plainview88 on Dec 20, 2010 11:18 AM MST up reply actions
Meaning no issues with them to this point...
or that most thought poorly of them before today….?
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McDaniels was the focal point before
Now he is gone we are seeing what the other coaches bring to the table, and the answer is not much.
Well the defense has been putrid all year, and Wink has taken heat all year. And McDaniels was calling plays, so for the 2 games McCoy has been calling them, he has been criticized.
"Who says Tim Tebow can't throw the ball...? Whoever said that, they didn't know what they were talking about."
-Gus Johnson
by plainview88 on Dec 20, 2010 11:26 AM MST up reply actions
Same playbook, same result...
They replaced the 3rd and long bubble screen with the dive play. That was the extent of the staff’s creativity from what I saw.
Broncomaniacs.... UNITE!
Because the rest of the season
McD was the doing the offensive play calling and he was the only one on the coaching staff that was qualified to do so. McCoy was a puppet OC that has no idea what he is doing.
by gnarlybroncodude on Dec 20, 2010 11:35 AM MST up reply actions
I'd think that most of them are worried about employment next year
NFL teams, like all employers, fire people and job security is a priority. Employees tend to want to make themselves look as good as possible, all while covering their collective butts so they can keep a job in their respective fields. So, imho they tend to be a bit too conservitive. I could be wrong and maybe there are a lot of coaching dynamics going on that I don’t have a clue about, but how else can you explain what the coaching staff is basing their decision making on? BTW SDcat09 nice to see another fan from SD here. Go Denver!
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Go Denver!
Probably, it was frustrating as heck to watch, but they probably didn’t want to ask too much too soon.
"Who says Tim Tebow can't throw the ball...? Whoever said that, they didn't know what they were talking about."
-Gus Johnson
by plainview88 on Dec 20, 2010 11:15 AM MST up reply actions
I'm sure it was they didn't want to overwhelm him in his first game
Arizona did the same thing with Skelton. Starting Mid Season is TOUGH for a rookie QB. You haven’t been taking 1st team Reps all season. The last meaningful football you have played was in college. I’m sure they wanted to ease him in. If he starts next week, I think the answer will be more clear. If the game is called the same way and he throw 16 passes against Houston’s awful Pass D, then we will know they just aren’t confident in him.
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by Sayre Bedinger on Dec 20, 2010 11:17 AM MST up reply actions
Franchise tag my man. Use it for once Bowlen.
Tim Tebow > Kyle Orton
by McGeorge on Dec 20, 2010 1:38 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Absolutely
McGeorge, I’ve been in agreement with about 95% of your posts lately, I feel like you post a lot of the same thoughts I’ve been having.
Your post about Tebow refusing to be picked up by the Raider player yesterday made me so excited, you stated it perfectly.
Playing safe
Playing it safe is always a good way to lose
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