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Rest of the West - Clinching Scenarios to Win the Division

Welcome back for another edition of the Rest of the West.

The Denver Broncos are not anywhere to be found in the playoff picture, but that doesn't make the playoffs any less important. The AFC West division race is still an interesting one. Not all of us have a rooting interest in any team still alive, but perhaps some of you have a "booing interest" in one team over another. The team who wins the AFC West in two weeks is going to receive the most negative of vibes from Broncos Country, heading into the playoffs. You can be sure of that.

Here are your current AFC West Standings:

AFC West Standings


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Kansas City 9 5 0 322 281
San Diego 8 6 0 388 260
Oakland 7 7 0 353 330
Denver 3 11 0 292 415

(updated 12.21.2010 at 4:12 PM EDT)

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The Oakland Raiders

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How to Win the Division

The Oakland Raiders beat the Denver Broncos last week, vaulting them to a 7-7 record. They're still in the hunt for an AFC West title, but they will need some help.

The Raiders are one of the more confusing teams in the NFL. Despite holding a flawless division record, they are 2 games out of the division lead. They are 5-0 in the division and 2-7 against the rest of the NFL. Their only wins against a non-AFC West opponent were a 16 - 14 win on the road against the Rams and a 33 - 3 win on the road against the Seahawks.

The Raiders can win the AFC West Division with two Raiders wins + two Chiefs losses + one San Diego loss.

It looks like things are totally out of the Raiders hands, but it's not a foregone conclusion that they will lose the division race. A more detailed clinching scenario is as follows:

The Raiders can make the playoffs with a Raiders win vs the Colts (week 16)+ a Chiefs loss to the Titans (week 16)+ a San Diego loss (to the Titans in week 16 OR the Broncos in week 17) + a Raiders win vs the Chiefs (week 17)

As you can see, the Raiders can kill two birds with one stone. By winning in week 17, they are guaranteeing a Chiefs loss. They do not control their own destiny, but their best chance is if they win out. That's easier said than done. They play the Indianapolis Colts this week, which should be quite the challenge for them. Peyton Manning is fighting for a playoff spot, himself. There's nothing more scary than facing a hungry Peyton Manning. 

If they can't win against the Colts, they can't win the division. It won't matter what the Chiefs do if the Raiders don't win this week. It's that simple. 

 

This Week

The Oakland Raiders will play the Indianapolis Colts (8-6) at the Oakland-Almeda Coliseum in Oakland.

Like I mentioned, above, the Raiders will have their hands full. Any time you face Peyton Manning, you'll have to bring your A game. Despite the fact that Austin Collie has a 3rd concussion on the year, with the latest coming last week in a vicious hit against the Jaguars.

This game will, undoubtedly, be decided on the ground. The Colts defense is 28th in the NFL defending the run, while the Oakland Raiders hold the 2nd ranked rushing offense (behind only the Kansas City Chiefs). If the Colts can't slow down the Raiders rushing attack, this game could be all about the Raiders. 

This late in the season, experience is what matters. The last time the Colts missed the playoffs was in 2001, when they finished 6-10 and were last in their division. That is 8 straight seasons of playoffs. The Raiders, on the other hand, haven't been in the playoffs since 2002, when they lost to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in the Super Bowl.

With late season experience and a certain future Hall of Fame quarterback named Peyton Manning, I think that the Raiders will need a lot of production from their running game to keep up with the Colts.



The Kansas City Chiefs

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How to Win the Division

For the Kansas City Chiefs, the division is within their grasp. All they need to do is win their final two games and they will win the AFC West crown. This week they play the Tennessee Titans and in week 17 they play the Oakland Raiders.

They can actually clinch the division this week in the following scenario:

The Kansas City Chiefs clinch the AFC West in week 16 with a win vs the Titans + a San Diego loss/tie against the Bengals.

Here's the major point of the AFC West playoff picture. Assuming the Chiefs win only one game and the Chargers win two games, there is absolutely no way that the Chiefs can win the AFC West title. The Chargers will hold all of the tiebreakers against the Chiefs.

Assume that the Chiefs beat the Raiders in week 17 but they lose to the Titans this week, while the Chargers win out. This means that both teams (Chiefs and Chargers) have a record of 10-6. The next tiebreaker would be division record. Both teams would end up 3-3, so it goes to the next tiebreaker which is common games. The Chiefs lose this tiebreaker, since their record versus common opponents would be 5-3 (division games not included) while the Chargers would be 6-2.

Let's take things the other direction. Assume the Chiefs beat the Titans this week but lose to the Raiders. If the Chargers win out and force a tie with the Chiefs based on overall record, they will win the next tiebreaker. They'll have a 3-3 division record and the Chiefs will have a 2-4 division record.

 

Here's the final breakdown for how the Chiefs can win the AFC West:

Win out

Chiefs win vs the Raiders + San Diego loss/tie to the Broncos

Two Chargers losses (to the Broncos and Bengals) + Raiders loss/tie to the Colts

Bottom line for the Chiefs, they must either win out or (if they happen to lose a game or two) hope that the Chargers lose just as many games as the Chiefs do. 

 

 

This Week

The Chiefs will take on the Tennessee Titans (3-6) at Arrowhead Stadium in Kansas City.

The Titans broke a 6 game losing streak with their 31-17 victory over Houston last week. With all the hooplah surrounding Randy Moss joining the Titans roster in week 9, he still only has 5 catches for 62 yards. They'll need all hands on deck to take down the Chiefs this week. Matt Cassel played extremely well last week against the Rams, throwing for 181 yards with 1 touchdown and 1 interception, just a week and a half removed from an emergency appendectomy. That's gutsy.

Okay... bad joke, but the point remains....

The Chiefs still boast the league's number 1 ranked rushing offense, putting up 168 yards per game. They'll still need their passing game to show up, though, since the Titans defense is only 26th against the pass. Regardless, it's going to be an interesting game. Chris Johnson has 8 games with more than 100 yards rushing and he'll try to continue that against the Chiefs defense who has surrendered 107 yards rushing, per game. He'll need to get that much and more, if the Titans wish to have any chance against the Chiefs.

 

 

My Take on the Chiefs

It's a long way to January and nothing has been decided, yet. 

With that said, I believe that the Chiefs are not a playoff team.

I'll say it again... the Chiefs are not a playoff team. They are far too inconsistent on offense to be considered anything but mediocre, at best. Despite being ranked 1st in rushing yards, they are ranked 26th in third down conversions. I've said it since the first ever ROTW. The Chiefs struggle on third downs and it will hurt them. That's the money down. You can't be average on third downs and expect to win. Furthermore, you can't be below average on third downs and expect to win close ball games. If they do happen to make the playoffs, don't expect to see them for very long in January.

Yeah, I said that about a month ago, following their epic collapse against the Denver Broncos. Since then, the Chiefs have gone 4-1 and retaken the division lead. Impressive, but I'll hold fast to my quote, above. If they do make the playoffs by winning the division (and it's still too close to call), they will lose in the first round. Mark my words.

 

 

The San Diego Chargers

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How to Win the Division

The San Diego Chargers are a game out of first place. Despite that, I believe they have an inside track to the division title. The Chargers have two "winnable" games against the Bengals and Broncos. They should be able to win out and hope for a slip up from the Chiefs against the Titans or Raiders.

We've already discussed some of the ins and outs of the tiebreakers between the Chiefs and Chargers, so I'll just go ahead and show you the clinching scenarios for the Chargers:

Two Chargers wins + a Chiefs loss (to the Titans OR the Raiders)

A Charger win + Two Chiefs losses (to the Titans AND the Raiders) + A Raiders loss to the Colts

Something you won't find in the above scenario is any mention of the Chargers losing both games and still winning the division. That's because it can't happen. If the Chargers lose all of their games, the Chiefs or Raiders will take the division. Either the Chiefs will win the division because they won out or beat the Raiders... or the Raiders will take the division because they beat the Colts and Chiefs, while the Chiefs lost against the Titans in week 16.

The Chargers have to win their final games and pray for a tie with the Chiefs. If a tie in overall record occurs between the Chiefs and the Chargers, San Diego will be going to the playoffs as the representative of the AFC West based on division record or common games, depending on which week the Chiefs lose. That's all the Chargers need to the playoffs for the 5th consecutive year.

In order to take advantage of a Chiefs mistake, however, they'll need to take care of business. This week is a must win for the Chargers.


This Week

The San Diego Chargers will play the Cincinnati Bengals (3-11) at Paul Brown Stadium in Cincinnati.

The Bengals are struggling. Carson Palmer has been slandered on the local radio stations for the past 4 years, it seems, and their most productive receiver (Terrell Owens) went to injured reserve last week. The Bengals lack a running game (27th overall) and a rushing defense (22nd overall). 

We all know that the Bengals are fighting for the top pick in the draft. After this week, I believe they'll be one game closer to doing just that. They don't have a chance against the Chargers.

The Chargers are going to ride the arm of Philip Rivers all the way to victory, this week.

 

 

So, there's your look at the Rest of the AFC West... the Broncos can still finish the season with 5 wins!

Go Broncos!

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Which team will win the AFC West title?
Chiefs
992 votes
Chargers
414 votes
Raiders
353 votes

1759 votes | Poll has closed

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Man I hate these teams

"Who says Tim Tebow can't throw the ball...? Whoever said that, they didn't know what they were talking about."
-Gus Johnson

by plainview88 on Dec 21, 2010 4:34 PM MST reply actions  

I can't say i hate the Broncos

Because it’s just a game. I love the sport of football period nothing else compares IMO, but i don’t “Hate” any team, yes i dislike some more than others, but it’s just a rivalry to me.

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by CPT.Caveman on Dec 22, 2010 2:27 PM MST up reply actions  

Well...

I can say I hate the Chiefs

"Who says Tim Tebow can't throw the ball...? Whoever said that, they didn't know what they were talking about."
-Gus Johnson

by plainview88 on Dec 22, 2010 2:58 PM MST up reply actions  

Well you must have some reason.

Why do you hate the Chiefs? Because Red use to be your favorite color? Or maybe your just jealous:P

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by CPT.Caveman on Dec 22, 2010 3:18 PM MST up reply actions  

My reason?

They are the Chiefs

"Who says Tim Tebow can't throw the ball...? Whoever said that, they didn't know what they were talking about."
-Gus Johnson

by plainview88 on Dec 22, 2010 3:33 PM MST up reply actions  

I knew it

Red was your favorite color:P

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by CPT.Caveman on Dec 22, 2010 4:03 PM MST up reply actions  

I

hate them all, Screw the Queefs, that was for Caveman

Brad James

by the new Bradfather on Dec 21, 2010 4:43 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

LOL

I get more attention from you than your team does. Yes i could spend most of my time at the AP joining in on all the childish name calling that goes on, but thats not what these blogs are about IMO. Have a great X-mas.

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by CPT.Caveman on Dec 22, 2010 2:33 PM MST up reply actions  

you too

I happen to hate the Chiefs because the head coach is a huge douche, and their team colors of ketchup & mustard happen to be the ugliest in football. Oh yeah, I almost forgot, Dwayne Bowe might be a bigger douche than the coach. I still like some Chiefs players (Hali, Cassel, Jones, Berry), but overall, I hate them, not exactly Raiders/Chargers hate, but it could turn into that yet.

by PaleHorse78 on Dec 22, 2010 5:53 PM MST up reply actions  

I don't understand all the Haley hate.

Is it because he expects 100% from his players, and if he doesn’t get it he chews their ass for it? Is it because he didn’t shake McDouches hand because he was cheating, it seems like a normal response too me. As far as the team colors are concerned, at least the Chiefs picked something that would stand the hands of time, and not have to come up with a Arena teams look.

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by CPT.Caveman on Dec 22, 2010 9:14 PM MST up reply actions  

Uniform looks fine to me

"Who says Tim Tebow can't throw the ball...? Whoever said that, they didn't know what they were talking about."
-Gus Johnson

by plainview88 on Dec 22, 2010 9:37 PM MST up reply actions  

Ouch

I’ll shut up now:P

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by CPT.Caveman on Dec 22, 2010 9:47 PM MST up reply actions  

I do hate them all too...

but the lesser of 3 evils is KC in my mind. I’d love to see the faders and dolts miss the playoffs

"Bombs dropping down overhead. Underground. It's instilled to want to live." -EV

by sadaraine on Dec 21, 2010 4:49 PM MST reply actions   3 recs

Thanks Troy, but

right about now I’m thinking “who cares?” I’m with the others, “man I hate these teams”. My only pleasure right now is cheering for my NFC team…. go Packers!!

by rubincarterrocks on Dec 21, 2010 4:50 PM MST reply actions  

BTW, we will have a last place schedule next

year, I’m stoked about that. Should help us start the slow swim back to the top.

by rubincarterrocks on Dec 21, 2010 4:51 PM MST reply actions  

Worked well for KC, didn't it? :)

The ignorant redneck formerly known as kentuckybronco.

by Troy Hufford on Dec 21, 2010 5:07 PM MST up reply actions  

Yes it did, but next year we have one of the toughest.

Then we’ll get to see if the Chiefs are for real:P

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by CPT.Caveman on Dec 22, 2010 2:46 PM MST up reply actions  

I think KC takes it.

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by KaptainKirk on Dec 21, 2010 4:53 PM MST reply actions  

KC keeps defying my expectations also.

I don’t know how they keep winning but I have to say they win when they need to. May not look like a powerful team but right now I’d take their record in a heartbeat!

by rubincarterrocks on Dec 21, 2010 4:56 PM MST reply actions  

Check their strength of schedule.... it's very low.

Very… very low.

The ignorant redneck formerly known as kentuckybronco.

by Troy Hufford on Dec 21, 2010 5:07 PM MST up reply actions  

You lost me with the headline....who cares?

"Attitude reflects Leadership" Hogblog...aka KSM

by Hogblog on Dec 21, 2010 5:09 PM MST reply actions  

Just mixing things up, a bit.

For the first time in like 8 weeks, we had an entire article without the words “Tebow”, “Orton” or “McDaniels” in it.

The ignorant redneck formerly known as kentuckybronco.

by Troy Hufford on Dec 21, 2010 5:31 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

^^THIS^^

I already want 2011 to get here.

by Mile_High_Helmet on Dec 21, 2010 6:49 PM MST up reply actions  

Next Blog Title

“Rest of the West- Tebow, Orton, McDaniels”

by Jordo5150 on Dec 21, 2010 8:44 PM MST up reply actions  

loser's lottery

who’ll get dropped in the first round of the playoffs? eh, i guess i’d say the chargers, ‘cause that’s what they do.

who’s “troy hufford” though?

I'm not sugarcoating this.

by oxmouth on Dec 21, 2010 5:36 PM MST reply actions  

I'm with you. The San Diego Super Chokers will do what they do best. Make a December run and a January collapse..

Troy Hufford is kentuckybronco’s alter ego. He enjoys long walks on the beach and Chipolte burritos…. sometimes together…

The ignorant redneck formerly known as kentuckybronco.

by Troy Hufford on Dec 21, 2010 6:50 PM MST up reply actions  

… and movies, sunsets, family, friends and travel, the “Love Is” comic strip… OH, and someone that makes him laugh!!! :-)

I'm not sugarcoating this.

by oxmouth on Dec 21, 2010 7:03 PM MST up reply actions  

… like al davis used to. sniff.

I'm not sugarcoating this.

by oxmouth on Dec 21, 2010 7:04 PM MST up reply actions  

That's where you're wrong, oxmouth.

You, of all people, know that Al Davis can still make me laugh. How could you not laugh at this?

The ignorant redneck formerly known as kentuckybronco.

by Troy Hufford on Dec 21, 2010 7:09 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

wow.

that’s all i can say. …. wow.

I'm not sugarcoating this.

by oxmouth on Dec 21, 2010 7:14 PM MST up reply actions  

I do what I do.

:)

The ignorant redneck formerly known as kentuckybronco.

by Troy Hufford on Dec 21, 2010 7:16 PM MST up reply actions  

flagged

for posting a nudie of al davis.

I'm not sugarcoating this.

by oxmouth on Dec 21, 2010 7:24 PM MST up reply actions  

HEY!

Just because he doesn’t have his horns or his pitchfork doesn’t mean that it’s “nudie”.

The ignorant redneck formerly known as kentuckybronco.

by Troy Hufford on Dec 21, 2010 7:31 PM MST up reply actions  

dude. he has nothing on. he’s naked. THAT’s a nudie.

I'm not sugarcoating this.

by oxmouth on Dec 21, 2010 7:34 PM MST up reply actions  

LOL!

The ignorant redneck formerly known as kentuckybronco.

by Troy Hufford on Dec 21, 2010 7:39 PM MST up reply actions  

ayyy oh!

"Who says Tim Tebow can't throw the ball...? Whoever said that, they didn't know what they were talking about."
-Gus Johnson

by plainview88 on Dec 21, 2010 9:35 PM MST up reply actions  

My precious

Amazing side by side. Honestly can’t say that Davis does anything that makes more sense than Gollum

by James Julian on Dec 21, 2010 10:43 PM MST up reply actions  

Gollum is offended by this comparison

My fantasy hockey team sucks. But at least I'm not a Red Wing sellout.

by Bob in Boulder on Dec 22, 2010 1:05 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

This is not cool

Never make fun of the dead like this. God bless crazy Al’s soul.

My fantasy hockey team sucks. But at least I'm not a Red Wing sellout.

by Bob in Boulder on Dec 22, 2010 1:11 PM MST up reply actions  

I didn't vote

because I don’t like any of the teams in the poll. The Broncos are out so I really don’t care. However, if the Chiefs or the Raiders win the division I will be happy because the Chargers would be out. Something always seems to happen to let them in so these last two weeks should be interesting.

Floyd Little: HOF Class of 2010.

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2009-10 NBA Finals MVP Kobe Bryant

by weazel on Dec 21, 2010 6:09 PM MST reply actions  

Well if I did vote then

I would probably say SD because something usually happens so that they get in. So until I see KC win the last two games or SD drop one, I would say them.

Floyd Little: HOF Class of 2010.

2009-10 back-to-back NBA Champions L.A Lakers
2009-10 NBA Finals MVP Kobe Bryant

by weazel on Dec 21, 2010 6:59 PM MST up reply actions  

You start with a wrong premise

The Denver Broncos are not anywhere to be found in the playoff picture, but that doesn’t make the playoffs any less important.

This does not make any sense. Since Broncos will not be in the playoffs, of course playoffs are less important. How could you say otherwise? And you call yourself a Broncos fan? Sheesh.

Maybe in some grand scheme of things playoffs still matter as much even without Broncos. But in the scheme of things that grand, sport is not a big deal, really. Who cares which group of big dudes moves the strange-shaped ball into some patch of land called endzone more?

But for all us Broncos fans there is no comparison between playoffs when we go and when we don’t.

by si_ice on Dec 21, 2010 6:18 PM MST reply actions   2 recs

It depends on your definition of important, I guess.

Ultimately, the playoffs are the means by which a Super Bowl Champion is crowned. That is important. The playoffs are just as important in 2010 as they were in 1998.
 
I am just as upset that the Broncos aren’t in the playoff picture as anyone else on this site, but that doesn’t mean the playoffs are unimportant. The playoffs are still the only road to the Lombardi Trophy. That thing is given out every year and it’s always important to see who gets it. That’s why the Super Bowl is the most watched television event in the entire year. If it were unimportant, than only the fans of the two teams in the game would watch it.

Maybe in some grand scheme of things playoffs still matter as much even without Broncos. But in the scheme of things that grand, sport is not a big deal, really. Who cares which group of big dudes moves the strange-shaped ball into some patch of land called endzone more?

By that definition, yes, the playoffs aren’t as “important” as something like a homeless shelter or an orphanage. I can understand that. I agree with that, actually. Football isn’t as important as helping out your fellow man.

This is a football website, though. As far as football fanhood is concerned, the playoffs are very important. If all the teams in the NFL just went out on the football field and played to have fun without keeping score, then the playoffs wouldn’t be important. Nobody would care if there’s a winner or loser.

However, in the famous words of Herman Edwards, “you play to win the game”. The Broncos didn’t “win the game” nearly as much as the other teams in their division and players/coaches will be fired because they didn’t get the job done. It’s a way of life for them. Making the playoffs are “important” to them. As fans, making the playoffs is “important” to us, as well.

You’ve got a whole spectrum of definitions for the word important. In the grand scope of things, football isn’t important. On a smaller scope, football is important, but it doesn’t really matter who wins or loses. On a much smaller scope, football is very important and it DOES matter who wins and loses and it DOES matter if you make the playoffs.

So, I guess that my definition of “important” is somewhere below a homeless shelter and playing football just to play it.

The ignorant redneck formerly known as kentuckybronco.

by Troy Hufford on Dec 21, 2010 6:47 PM MST up reply actions  

I voted Chargers, but the team that DESERVES to the win the West

is the team that is undefeated in the West. Oakland did their job of beating up their division rivals…

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by Tim Lynch on Dec 21, 2010 6:41 PM MST reply actions  

Lets make it interesting

Chiefs lose to Tenn, and SD beats Cinnci. Raiders will lose to the Colts. But I don’t see any AFC West team making it past the first round in the playoffs.

I'm so optimistic I'd go after Moby Dick in a row boat and take the tartar sauce with me.~Zig Ziglar

by timmaybronco on Dec 21, 2010 9:07 PM MST reply actions  

415 under PA.

Thats good, right?

"Who says Tim Tebow can't throw the ball...? Whoever said that, they didn't know what they were talking about."
-Gus Johnson

by plainview88 on Dec 21, 2010 9:39 PM MST reply actions  

To be completely honest

I hate all of the other teams! There isn’t one scenario that I like. I hope they all lose the rest of their games, which would be impossible since someone has to win the Chiefs/Raider game. Oh wait a tie would be the best case scenario for me. I guess if that happens the Chiefs would still come out on top, but it would be a little more palatable (just barely).

We conquered this territory with our bodies and souls, then we watered it with our tears.
Go Denver!

by SSinSD on Dec 22, 2010 12:23 AM MST reply actions  

It sickens me to the core of my being, to think any of these teams are better than us

let alone ALL OF THEM? What a sad, sad season to endure – the worst in recent memory, by far. I surely to God, undoubtedly thought that John Clayton was the most ignorant human being (turtle head) in the history of NFL analysts, but apparently he knew something I didn’t. If it’s any consolation, I still think that douche bag is an ignoramous of epic proportions, and the sun shines on a dog’s arse every once in a while.

Bowlen and Ellis really screwed the pooch on this one, and hopefully Elway can talk them back to reality, encouraging a proper NFL power structure, built for the long haul. Bowlen and Jerry Jones are the two extremes when it comes to wrong doing by an owner – Jones wants his skeletal hands in everything, Bowlen will let a complete stranger run off with the keys to the kingdom.

The Chargers I can understand, they’ve been killing it since way back, but the Queefs? The Butt Pirates? This will not stand, no sir, not for long. If I know Bowlen right, this negative experience has humbled him to the point of action, and instead of overly trusting 32 year olds with no prior head coaching gigs, I hope he starts bringing in the right people to trust, the type of people who helped make this great franchise a powerhouse back in the day (don’t be fooled into thinking this team has become a joke to possible coaches, not after just one single clusterf**k of a year).

He made the correct first step by bringing our beloved John Elway back into the foal – and with his passion/reputation/ support, we will scrape our way back to the top of this self induced pitfall gradually, and make plenty of positive memories in the process. John told our team before the first KC game, to enjoy the process, smile and be happy, have fun, and things will all fall into place.

He told them to stop getting so far ahead of themselves, that they lose sight of the most important reasons to play football – having a blast with each other and playing till their arms fell off, for each other – a brotherhood of Broncos. The way our team responded that day was an amazing sight to behold, and it gives me nothing but more confidence to know that with Elway, we’re in great hands.

by PaleHorse78 on Dec 22, 2010 2:08 AM MST reply actions   1 recs

Bringing in John will be a great thing PH78

But I hope we don’t stop there. I believe everyone here agrees with that. A total revamp of the front office is necessary. Then we can focus on which players are part of the future. One thing that bothers me is whether or not there will be a 2011 season at all. I’ve not heard much lately on the CBA. Are there any updates anyone can share?

We conquered this territory with our bodies and souls, then we watered it with our tears.
Go Denver!

by SSinSD on Dec 22, 2010 8:28 AM MST up reply actions  

defintely agree

John, like I said above, is the correct first step – more steps are needed, you are spot on.

by PaleHorse78 on Dec 22, 2010 5:54 PM MST up reply actions  

Amen Brother

I feel your fire Palehorse. Who doesn’t like Chipolte[?] burritos? I could live on them

by Baghdad on Dec 22, 2010 7:25 AM MST reply actions  

We have a Mexican restaurant here in Huntington, WV (where Marshall, the college, plays)

They have these tacos called pork carnitas, and let me tell you what, they are the bomb. It’s pork loin glazed with some different, Mexican version of barbeque sauce, topped with cilantro, shredded cheese, sour cream, and tomato – wow, delicioso!!!

by PaleHorse78 on Dec 22, 2010 6:10 PM MST up reply actions  

I want whatever scenario

Makes the Broncos game a must win for the Chargers. I will be attending that game as my first ever home Broncos game and I would like nothing more than for the Broncos to ruin the Chargers season by beating them to keep them from making the playoffs. I HATE Rivers and would love to see him sulk off the field knowing his season is over.

Please Santa, this is the only thing I want for Christmas.

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by afeather on Dec 22, 2010 8:28 AM MST reply actions  

He'd be a sulkin too.

I’m with you on that wish. Go Denver!

We conquered this territory with our bodies and souls, then we watered it with our tears.
Go Denver!

by SSinSD on Dec 22, 2010 8:47 AM MST reply actions  

I am looking forward to the day when professional football returns to Denver.

My fantasy hockey team sucks. But at least I'm not a Red Wing sellout.

by Bob in Boulder on Dec 22, 2010 1:07 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

I hear ya.

Just hope you don’t have to wait 3 or 4 years for one, like i did:P

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by CPT.Caveman on Dec 22, 2010 4:05 PM MST up reply actions  

In the end, it was well worth the wait for you Caveman

What most people don’t realize is Herm Edwards set your team up with great young talent, before Pioli did the same. Don’t get me wrong, I think Edwards is kind of a douche, but his drafting is a big reason for your team’s success. Just think of who he drafted, even though it took a while – Tamba Hali, Jamal Charles (the biggest reason for your resurgence), Derrick Johnson, Brandon Flowers, Brandon Carr, Brandon Albert.

by PaleHorse78 on Dec 22, 2010 6:52 PM MST up reply actions  

Agreed

In fact i bring that up on another post.

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by CPT.Caveman on Dec 22, 2010 9:03 PM MST up reply actions  

Great Post

Got to say when this season started I didn’t expect this outcome. I never thought the Chiefs might make the play-offs, infact i thought a 8-8 was pushing it. I don’t think the Chiefs will make it past the first round if they do, but anything is possible.
I think the Chiefs need a few more key players to make a deep play off push. On the defensive side of the ball we need a NT that can push the pocket as well as stop the run. We also need another Pass rushing OLB, whom i think we have already in C.Sheffield but he’s on IR. If we can address those to positions with good players i believe our defense will be good enough.
On the offensive side of the ball, M.Cassel has really proved me wrong, he can get the job done. We need to address the WR position, we have to get another good WR to take some of the pressure off of Bowe. Other than that it’s just addressing positions through the draft that will upgrade the o-line in the future, IMO this team is very close to being complete.

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