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Would the Broncos Trade up In the NFL Draft?



There has been talk recently around the NFL world that each team in the top four of the draft (Rams, Lions, Bucs, and Redskins) are trying to trade down. 

Who isn't these days?

Even though this year is uncapped, teams are still not simply made of cash.  With talk of a rookie cap being implemented in 2011, this may be the last year that draft choice salary is any kind of issue.  This year, the owners are not so lucky.

Couple that with the fact that there is no clear cut choice for the number one overall pick, and you've got quite the situation.  Essentially, the Rams are going to be handing out $40 million to a guy who is either a defensive tackle or a decent quarterback prospect.

This was the situation the Lions were in last year, and for their money, they probably made the right decision by taking Matthew Stafford.  I used to be a believer in Ndamukong Suh to the Rams, but the more you look at it the less it makes sense to me.

Then again, there is a reason this team is picking atop the draft. 

Star-divide

It's no wonder these teams are trying to trade down.  They are all starved for talent at nearly every position, and this is a very talent rich draft.  Unfortunately, there are no can't miss prospects, just a couple of guys who will be very good at the next level like Suh, Eric Berry of Tennessee, and Gerald McCoy of Oklahoma. 

When teams trade up in the draft, they are mortgaging a lot.  Either they have every other piece in place for a title run, or they are banking a certain player to turn the franchise around while mortgaging significant pieces of their future.

You saw this last year when the New York Jets moved up to the fifth overall pick to take Mark Sanchez, and then they traded up to the top of the third round to select running back Shonn Greene.  Not a bad couple of picks, and both were big parts of the Jets' AFC Runner Up season. 

The Jets scored big last year.  Despite not having a bounty of draft picks, they took great quality with two of their picks and largely had most of the rest of the pieces in place.  In short, their gamble paid huge dividends. 

Will the Broncos try a similar approach?  I don't claim to know the way Josh McDaniels' mind works, or how he works his way around the draft, but in a limited amount of time (2009 offseason) we've seen a glimpse at least, and it's no question this guy likes to wheel and deal during the draft. 

Denver moved into the 2nd round two extra times in 2009 after trading Jay Cutler for an extra first and third.  They traded a future fifth round pick to the Lions to get Tom Brandstater.  Clearly they are not going to be shy about trading for a guy they really like.

That being said, I don't see them trading up in the first round of the 2010 draft.  There will be great value at the 10th or 11th overall picks, and as you've seen from my 20 mock drafts so far, there are countless opportunities. 


Right now, I can't see the Broncos trading up with the limited assets they currently possess (six picks in total).  The wiser move would be to trade down from the 10th overall pick, but that possibility seems to dwindle by the day with teams trying to stockpile picks to take advantage of this very deep draft. 

Then again, that's just my take on the situation.  I don't know that I've seen many (if any at all) mocks this offseason that include a trade up other than to the first overall pick for Ndamukong Suh. 

I pose you the question:  Would the Broncos trade up in the NFL Draft?

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Would the Broncos trade up in the 2010 NFL Draft?
Yes
162 votes
No
655 votes

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Nice thought provoker!

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by boydy2669 on Feb 24, 2010 10:06 PM MST reply actions  

Yeah

That’s about all it is to me at this point. I don’t see it, but if they did I wouldn’t be shocked either.

by Sayre Bedinger on Feb 24, 2010 10:45 PM MST up reply actions  

35 votes only 2 posts...

of course we would. If McX sees something they want. One of the things I admire about our new FO is one of the things that pisses me off the most. I love their willingness to go against the grain when the situation calls for it. Trade a first for a second? Dumb move, …Unless the guy they ‘had a feeling’ about pans out …then it’s genius right? We hired McX because ‘we’ think they are smarter than the average bear… If McX see something they like I hope they GO FOR IT!

Of course the smart money says…

by Whidbey Bronco on Feb 24, 2010 10:26 PM MST reply actions  

Isn't the question also

Could the Broncos trade up in the draft?

If they end up with more draft picks from losing someone like Marshall, or Scheffler, then they may have more ammunition to move up. Or trade the first pick and a player to move up.

Still, they seem more like they want to add more depth at quite a few positions so they’d rather have more picks than get one stud player. Could be wrong. Suh or McCoy would be the real targets for a trade up, though I doubt they have the ammo to move up to get them.

Anyway… food for thought!

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by underdog on Feb 24, 2010 10:36 PM MST reply actions  

I at first thought no, we hav too many needs to do this

But if we address a bunch of needs in FA like last year, I think we should.

I think with all the teams trying to trade down, we could get good value by bargaining and saying “this team offered us this, wat do u wanna offer?”

by DBroncs1414 on Feb 24, 2010 10:37 PM MST reply actions  

Possibly one of the DT's

They could be dominant 3-4 ends. Maybe Haden or Berry as well. I wouldnt say the QB’s tho because they are not worth giving up that much of ur picks for, too risk reward and are coming off injuries, but I would like to draft them at 10 if possible.

by DBroncs1414 on Feb 24, 2010 11:00 PM MST up reply actions  

I voted no, but it was a waffling vote

I’m getting this odd feeling that what we saw McDaniels/Xanders do last year in the draft may have had as much to do with the truncated timeline they had to work with, as it did their natural philosophy of the draft.

Now that they’ve had a whole season to prepare and the normal NFL timeline for draft prep to work with, we could very well see a very different approach from last year. I’m inclined to believe that McDaniels/Xanders will continue to use the BPA approach, and any wheeling & dealing will be dependent upon any player trades that involve picks.

No real evidence to back this up, just an overall suspicion based on what I’ve seen in the last year.

We live in an age when instant gratification isn't fast enough

by Brian Shrout on Feb 24, 2010 10:53 PM MST reply actions  

The only certainty

Is that it remains uncertain.

Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks

by KaptainKirk on Feb 24, 2010 11:03 PM MST up reply actions  

Yes

this is also consistent with my thinking. I definitely think last year they did a decent job, and admitting they were strapped for scouting time kind of said, “whoops, we might have screwed up on a couple of picks” but I think they did a fine job and I can’t wait to see what a year of preparation brings.

by Sayre Bedinger on Feb 25, 2010 7:00 AM MST up reply actions  

I'm with you on that

I suspect we will see some wheeling and dealing in lower rounds, maybe some trading down early on, but not trading up from 10/11

by Timimus on Feb 25, 2010 11:34 AM MST up reply actions  

speaking of...

How do the Raiders have ANY money left?!

by Sayre Bedinger on Feb 25, 2010 7:01 AM MST up reply actions  

faider fans are like modern day Robin Hood's

Except they steal from the poor and give to Al Davis. As long as their is stuff left to steal, the raiders will continue to have money.

Great spirits have often encountered violent opposition from weak minds. - Albert Einstein

Once we accept our limits, we go beyond them. - Albert Einstein

by c_style on Feb 25, 2010 9:42 AM MST up reply actions  

Maybe that's why Davis looks like the Crypt-Keeper

He’s paying for his draft picks by donating blood — every day. ;-p

We live in an age when instant gratification isn't fast enough

by Brian Shrout on Feb 25, 2010 11:07 AM MST up reply actions  

Eeeww!

Be careful of something that’s just like you want it to be.
Waylon Jennings

by bradley on Feb 25, 2010 11:26 AM MST up reply actions  

Hearty no here

I am a big believer that this draft has a lot of value in it and we are in a good position to get high talent for a decent price.

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Are you on the rise? Are you falling down?
Let me know, Come on let's go, yeah
Got some if you need it!" -EV

by sadaraine on Feb 24, 2010 11:58 PM MST reply actions  

Yes

Me as well. I think the tenth overall pick will bring us an elite level talent.

by Sayre Bedinger on Feb 25, 2010 7:01 AM MST up reply actions  

I would say no, for the most part

Certainly not into the top five, but if the question were whether they would move a couple spots to take a guy they really have their eye on, then I would say yes. Maybe I could see like from the 10 to the Browns’ 7, costing us a third-rounder. Any more movement than that would probably cost us our 2nd rounder, and I couldn’t really see that happening.

Good luck with the Redskins Mr. Mike! I'll be watching and cheering for a non-Bronco team for the first time in my life. Well, except when they play the Broncos!

by Alex on Feb 25, 2010 1:20 AM MST reply actions  

I said no also

but agree this is the spot they will move up to if they do move up. We can offer Scheff in the deal somehow. If McD is sold on a guy, such as McClain, that may not make it to us, he would pull the trigger. No doubt about it.

by Digger24 on Feb 25, 2010 6:09 AM MST up reply actions  

Yeah

I don’t want to be giving up too many high picks this year. For one, I like watchin the draft, and its a lot more fun if your team picks more than four times lol.

by Sayre Bedinger on Feb 25, 2010 7:02 AM MST up reply actions  

No for me

I think that if there is any movement it will be to move down to get more picks. The Broncos havent got many picks in the 1st 3 rounds to start with so not sure they would sacrifice them to move up when they can get value throughout the 1st 3 rounds.

by SteveUK on Feb 25, 2010 1:23 AM MST reply actions  

This

is what I hope for. McD scares me though.

by Digger24 on Feb 25, 2010 6:11 AM MST up reply actions  

Wouldn't it be nice

to be sitting pretty like the Pats? 4 picks in the first two rounds this year, 3 next year. there’s a reason they are the best run (well, one of the best) franchises in the NFL.

by Sayre Bedinger on Feb 25, 2010 7:03 AM MST up reply actions  

Were

the Patriots that far ahead in their thinking that it was worth more to them having picks for this years draft than last years because of the depth of talent?

by SteveUK on Feb 26, 2010 2:13 AM MST up reply actions  

Voted No!

But agree w/ alex that I could see McDnX moving up a “couple” spots to get their target prize (whoever that might be?)…I think much of our movement (options) will depend on retainment (or not) of our RFA group. That is, if we lose one or more and receive extra picks we would certainly have more ammo and flexibility…We shall see.

-Stick to the fight when you are hardest hit - it's when things seem worst that you must not quit!

by BroncoSense72 on Feb 25, 2010 6:15 AM MST reply actions  

What are we talking here...2 mil a spot?

So if we have to 10th spot and trade up to say the 7th spot would that be 6 mile more for that talent? I see this draft as a humdinger and trading down might be more profitable in terms of talent/value quotient.

by bfree2bronc on Feb 25, 2010 1:00 PM MST up reply actions  

Moving in without moving up

There are lots of good arguments against moving up, the biggest of which is the loss of multiple draft picks to advance a few slots. In my opinion, Denver showed enough holes in their player depth that it makes little sense to reduce the number of picks.

However, there will be 9 or 10 teams in front of the Broncos, of which all but two are potential player-trade partners. Better yet, five of those teams are NFC teams, making them even more attractive targets. Denver has at least one player who is seemingly interested in getting out of town, and it isn’t inconceivable that a team with a high draft pick would rather spend that pick and a first round contract money for a proven player.

Both Tampa and Seattle have been reported as possible destinations for Marshall, and it isn’t completely ludicrous to toss Washington into that mix. So rather than moving up, such a trade would represent a moving in, with which the Broncos could either get two blue-chip prospects (if they desire to hemorrhage cash through their nasal orifices) or get good value for trading back with a team that really wants to get a Bradford or McCoy.

by DCJ on Feb 25, 2010 8:14 AM MST reply actions  

No as well

Everyone seems to agree that some sort of rookie cap needs to be implemented in the new contract, as the top 10 has become such an expensive crapshoot. Not sure the risk of trading up is worth the money when rookie value is soon to be decreasing. I thing trading down is the option this year.

"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away."
Philip K. Dick

by azdenfan on Feb 25, 2010 8:20 AM MST reply actions  

I don'

"A great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do" Walter Gagenot
"Hope sees the invisible, feels the intangible and achieves the impossible."

by bchiper on Feb 25, 2010 8:23 AM MST reply actions  

Ok that was weird, not sure why the last one even posted

anyway I don’t see the Broncos trading up. We currently have six picks and trading up would either reduce that number and forcing our hand elsewhere in this draft or next years. I can’t make sense of it enough to say we’d do it. I think Bowlen is more apt to pay a proven talent than he is an unproven talent so that may be the driver in how the Broncos move in FA and the draft.

"A great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do" Walter Gagenot
"Hope sees the invisible, feels the intangible and achieves the impossible."

by bchiper on Feb 25, 2010 8:27 AM MST reply actions  

I see us trading down

Paying 2 first round picks last year cost a lot of money. I dont see Bowlen allowing a trade up that will cost him even more money.

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by jerry251 on Feb 25, 2010 9:16 AM MST reply actions  

The title says in all.......

YES, we will move up in the draft; will it be into the top8, no. But I am certain McX will wheal and deal to get guys they like and if that means moving up in the 2nd, 3rd or 4th, you betcha’. One guy I really don’t want to miss out on and hope we either get the first time around or move up to is McCluster. He looks like a Chris Johnson/Sproles combo. Would be really nice to have quickness back in the offense.

by bronco112 on Feb 25, 2010 9:48 AM MST reply actions  

Trade up? Absolutely! But only if....

….it means we get Tebow!

Be careful of something that’s just like you want it to be.
Waylon Jennings

by bradley on Feb 25, 2010 10:25 AM MST reply actions  

In the first?

Most are projecting tebow as 2nd 3rd rd talent.

by bfree2bronc on Feb 25, 2010 1:18 PM MST up reply actions  

I was kidding

Giving Sayre a little friendly grief. I actually don’t want Tebow unless he falls to at least 4th. Too big a risk.

When you’re wounded on Afghanistan’s plains, and the women come out to cut up what remains, just roll to your rifle and blow out your brains, and go to your God like a soldier.
Rudyard Kipling

by bradley on Feb 25, 2010 3:36 PM MST up reply actions  

Good discussion point

I will play the other side, If Rams, Lions, Bucs just want to save money then they may trade down. One idea, Denver and Rams trade 1st (1 for 10) but with no other compensation.
Very unlikely though.

by DLMyers on Feb 25, 2010 12:08 PM MST reply actions  

That would be a 30 mil difference wouldn't it?

The reason the Broncos would have to go there would be for Suh or Clausen. I believe Clausen can be had at #5 with KC because most think the Rams will pick Suh, which IMO will be a mistake, they need a quarterback real bad and if they continue the spiral down then they will just keep putting more money on the fire they already started by not taking Sabchez last year.

by bfree2bronc on Feb 25, 2010 1:23 PM MST up reply actions  

I don't believe the broncos

would draft Clausen. His accuracy has been questioned, and in Mcdaniels offense you need an accurate QB. Braford yes, Clausen no.

by broncos314 on Feb 25, 2010 1:47 PM MST reply actions  

Clausen's accuracy

7-1 TD/INT ratio is not bad at all.

by Sayre Bedinger on Feb 25, 2010 6:02 PM MST up reply actions  

No way

I think the only thing they would do is go down. They already have 2 first round pics they are paying and if they trade/someone signs and we do not match Marshall’s offersheet, We would have 2 firsts again and Money is tight. I think one of the major factors in trading for Smith last year was to release us from the money of a 1st round pick.

by kimbertr on Feb 25, 2010 6:28 PM MST reply actions  

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