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Denver Broncos Mock Draft Ver. 16, Post Super Bowl



First of all, many congratulations to the New Orleans Saints.  They capped off one of the more balanced NFL seasons in terms of competition level that I have ever witnessed in my 20 years of life, and they were the last team standing.  To get to their first ever Super Bowl, they had to beat Tom Brady's Patriots, Kurt Warner's Cardinals, Brett Favre's Vikings, and Peyton Manning's Colts

Tonight capped off a great season of football, and darn it The Who also put on a dynamite show.  Again, congratulations to the New Orleans Saints.  They deserved to win tonight, and they had an excellent season. 

Enough sappy stories.  It's now officially time to move on from the 2009 NFL season.  The offseason is less than one month away from getting into full form.

With a full season to evaluate not only the talent available in free agency and the draft, the Broncos and their new front office have had a full year to evaluate the players on the roster already.  Denver's reloading project is 60 percent completed from last season.  Josh McDaniels has nearly cemented his style on this team, though there are still some players left from the Shanahan era who clearly do not fit.

That will likely change this offseason. 

As per lately, I've been using these mock drafts as a way to throw out every possibility the Broncos could encounter this offseason, and I likely have not even made a dent in the never ending amount of possibilities.  Now that the season is officially over, I am going to start changing up the style of these posts.

Instead of presenting fantasy options, I'm going to go with what I actually believe will happen.  Obviously it's a long shot at this point, but the picture will only become clearer and clearer as the NFL Draft approaches. 

And without further adieu...

 

 

 

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Free Agency

1.  Brandon Marshall, WR, RFA

 

2.  Elvis Dumervil, OLB, RFA

3.  Kyle Orton, QB, RFA

Kyle Orton #8 of the <a class='sbn-auto-link' href=Denver Broncos passes against the Baltimore Ravens at M&T Bank Stadium on November 1, 2009 in Baltimore, Maryland." title="Denver Broncos v Baltimore Ravens" id="currentPic" />

4.  Chris Kuper, OG, RFA

5.  Matt Prater, K, RFA

6.  Kevin Walter, WR, UFA (Houston)

7.  Jarvis Green, DL, UFA (New England)

8.  Eugene Amano, OL, UFA (Tennessee)

9.  Ben Watson, TE, UFA (New England)

Trades

1.  Tony Scheffler to Cincinnati for 3rd round pick (84th overall)

2.  Brandon Stokley to Houston for future 5th round pick

Draft

1.  St. Louis Rams:  Ndamukong Suh, DL, Nebraska

2.  Detroit Lions:  Gerald McCoy, DL, Oklahoma

3.  Tampa Bay Buccaneers:  Eric Berry, S, Tennessee

4.  Washington Redskins:  Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma

5.  Kansas City Chiefs:  Russell Okung, OL, Oklahoma State

6.  Seattle SeahawksAnthony Davis, OL, Rutgers

7.  Cleveland Browns:  Joe Haden, CB, Florida

8.  Oakland Raiders:  Bruce Campbell, OL, Maryland

9.  Buffalo Bills:  Dez Bryant, WR, Oklahoma State

 

This is a very tough choice here.  The Broncos would be in quite the bind if they had to choose between their quarterback of the future in Jimmy Clausen, or their defensive quarterback of the future in Rolando McClain.  Many on this site have a large preference toward McClain.  We all read Pat Bowlen's comments about hoping for a young signal caller for the future. 

I don't know that the Broncos could have asked for a more bittersweet situation if this one were to come to fruition.  McClain is an ideal fit for ILB in the 3-4 defense, and is unquestionably the best 3-4 LB prospect in this entire draft.  On the flip side, Clausen is an ideal fit for Denver because he ran their offense in college to a certain extent.

I have a feeling this selection would spark quite a debate.

 

First Round, 10th overall:  James "Jimmy" Clausen, Quarterback, Notre Dame

6'3" 225

Obviously if the draft plays out this way, the Broncos will have a tough choice, as I pointed out before.  I just cannot see them passing on a quarterback who has already been learning their system for the last three years.  McClain would be a nice talent to add, and quite frankly I am surprised that even I had him lasting to this pick, which seems highly unlikely to me.

Maybe the same is true for Clausen, but in my last mock I had him lasting to 26th overall to Arizona, so there is a possibility for anything.  You can hate on selecting a quarterback in the first round all you want, but Kyle Orton either didn't take advantage of the bounty of weapons at his disposal this year, or McD didn't open the playbook enough and trust him enough to allow him to spread the ball around as he should have.  Clausen is a guy who McDaniels could rely on to spread the ball round effectively, and utilize our weapons.  Here is a good, in-depth report on Clausen from Mocking the Draft.

Accuracy: Clausen has the incredible ability to complete just about every pass of 15 yards or less. Puts very good touch and zips on his short and intermediate throws. When his deep pass is on, he leads the receiver well. Needs to improve his trajectory on deep throws. His throws tend to come in low on deeper passes. Can throw on the move well and his passes don't lose a lot of velocity. Completed 68 percent of his passes as a junior.

Arm strength: While Clausen's arm is strong enough for the NFL, he can't accurately make all deep throws. On deep outs Clausen will take some zip off the ball and not deliver it as quickly. It will also take him a while to get deep passes out as he has to rely on his body to get the ball out. His arm will never be confused for Joe Flacco's or Matt Stafford's, but it's every bit as strong as Mark Sanchez's.

Athleticism/mobility: Clausen has good quickness in the pocket to slip around rushers and get rid of the ball. When he's on the move, Clausen needs to do a better job of securing the ball while he's on the move. Players at the next level will be more capable of stripping the ball away. Won't make a lot of deep runs in the open field. Runs mostly erect.

Decision making: Rarely will you see Clausen throw into bad coverage situations. Even when he does, he tends to put the ball only where his receiver can catch it. Intelligently throws away passes instead of passing into coverage or taking a sack.

Field vision: Works through his progressions better than just about any quarterback in college football. This is a display of his excellent football intelligence. When Clausen's first two reads are unavailable, he frequently found tight end Kyle Rudolph or checked off to a running back. As a junior, Clausen really improved his ability to move safeties with his eyes.

Mechanics: Possesses a quick, smooth delivery. Has a slight windup, but it's very correctable. Looks to have great balance and control driving back from under center. Quickly gets his feet into position. Clearly most comfortable in five-step drops. Where Clausen could improve is planting his feet in the ground. He'll frequently shuffle his feet in the pocket.

Pocket awareness/poise: Clausen is generally calm and poised in the pocket, but he'll often get antsy and start shuffling his feet around. This was especially evident following a mid-season foot injury. Loses some steam on his passes in the face of pressure when he tries to get rid of the ball more quickly.

Final word: After Notre Dame fired head coach Charlie Weis, there was no reason for Clausen to return to school. Playing for a new coach, Clausen's pro potential could have only struggled by switching offensive systems. He also would have risked injury.

Where Clausen showed the most intangible improvement during his career was in his leadership ability. After looking somewhat tentative early in his career, Clausen was clearly an on-field leader for the Irish. He has no known character flaws.

Clausen will go into the 2010 NFL Draft as a probable top 10 selection and could be the first quarterback selected. He improved leaps and bounds at South Bend after starting out as an inconsistent 190-pound freshman. He's an incredibly accurate passer and finished 2009 with a stunning 28:4 touchdown-to-interception ratio.

 

 

Second Round, 45th overall:  Maurkice Pouncey, Center, Florida

6'5" 320

Pouncey is a no-brainer with this selection.  We must solidify the interior of our offensive line in this offseason for the future, because I can't say from free agency or the draft who else we could get to start for us next year if Wiegmann is not brought back.  Do we really have that much faith in Dustin Fry?  He's a massive body and as of now, I project him to make the final roster.  But he's not Pouncey in terms of versatility and athletic ability.

Here are a couple of tidbits from NFL Draft Scout:

 - OL Maurkice Pouncey, one of five Florida Gators this season to declare early for the NFL draft, is working out at Disney's Wide World of Sports while twin brother Mike Pouncey prepares for another year in Gainesville. The decision to leave his brother was difficult but necessary, Pouncey told the Sentinel on Monday. Mike, a guard, will play center, Maurkice's old position, in 2010. "I felt like I wanted to start something new with my life," said Pouncey, who trains with Tom Shaw's Performance Enhancement. "Once we got a lot of information back, we talked about the fact that if he came back, he'd do a great job at center and be more versatile at the next level. The decision became a little easier once we both realized that." Pouncey, a potential firstrounder and top center in the draft, said he has accepted an invitation to the NFL Scouting Combine beginning Feb. 24. The Gators lost four other juniors - TE Aaron Hernandez, DE Carlos Dunlap, CB Joe Haden and S Major Wright -to the draft. "I'm a competitor, a leader," said Pouncey about why a team should draft him. "I'm all for the team. I feel like I'm athletic enough." Urban Meyer's job flipflopping and uncertainty surrounding the program did not affect Pouncey's decision, he said. "He's definitely going to be back," Pouncey said. "When he did decide to take time off, it was just a little bit of stress." - The Orlando Sentinel.com

A first-round already flooded with underclassman prospects gained two more as Florida Gators defensive end Carlos Dunlap and offensive lineman Maurkice Pouncey announced they will enter the 2010 NFL Draft. Pouncey might also hear his name called on the draft's first Thursday night primetime airing, along with linebacker Brandon Spikes, H-back Aaron Hernandez and quarterback Tim Tebow (if he can improve his delivery at the Senior Bowl and postseason workouts). Pouncey's twin brother, Mike, decided to stay in Gainesville one more season despite likely being one of the top five interior offensive linemen in the draft. "I am glad that my brother and I made the decision to be Gators, Maurkice Pouncey said in a statement. "God gave us the knowledge, strength and ability to be great players, but it is now time for my brother and me to part ways." Don't let Meyer's spread offense fool you: Pouncey is not a finesse lineman. The All-American and 2009 Rimington Trophy winner is tough, strong and athletic enough to start at guard or center in any NFL system. Known to play through the whistle, the 6-5, 310-pound junior started at right guard in his true freshman season and never looked back. As for his character, Meyer stated Pouncey "has been like a son to me." If Pouncey isn't selected in the first round, it will only be because of the few interior linemen typically selected in the draft's initial stanza and team needs. No matter where he is selected, however, his new team will get a long-time starter and potential Pro Bowl candidate. - Chad Reuter, The Sports Xchange, NFLDraftScout.com

 

 

Third Round, 80th overall:  Jacoby Ford, Wide Receiver, Clemson

5'9" 185

Ford was the only player Scott Wright of Draft Countdown noticed the Broncos talking to at the Senior Bowl, which I think is significant.  Don't get me wrong, I love having Eddie Royal, but if he could focus on being a wide receiver and pass off the return man duty torch to someone else, I would greatly appreciate it as a fan. 

Ford is one of the most electrifying return men available in this draft, and his playmaking skills and track star speed make him an enticing choice at this point in the draft.  Complain all you want, but one of the Broncos' biggest problems this year was starting field position, and Ford can fix that.  He all but guaranteed he would run a sub 4.30 40 yard dash at the combine, and that alone could elevate him from a fifth round pick to a third round pick.

In addition to being an excellent return man, he has potential early on to contribute in a slot receiver role, and give the Broncos a much needed deep threat offensively.  Here is a quick take on Ford from the NFL Draft Bible:

Ford doesn’t have great size at only 5-9 182 pounds but he is a fast and explosive receiver. To go along with his blazing straight line speed he has the quickness to go with it and show that when either he has the ball in his hands or when he is running routes. He also averaged 32.8 yards per kickoff return. Because of the lack of his size some teams are only going to be looking at him as a slot receiver and a return man to start out with, but could turn into more like what Steve Smith of Carolina did when he first come into the NFL.

Third Round, 84th overall:  Sean Lee, Inside Linebacker, Penn State

6'2" 236

This pick comes from Cincinnati, and I don't think we could use it any better.  There are many on this site who really like Micah Johnson out of Kentucky, and for good reason.  I simply believe Lee to be a better value with this pick, and a more proven commodity at the collegiate level.  He is a leader in every sense of the word, and he has the work ethic and talent to be an effective ILB for the next decade plus. 

His toughness will attract NFL scouts, and his ability to read plays will entice McDaniels in particular.  I could not find an adequate scouting report elsewhere, but I do know that many scouts feel Lee is best suited as an outside backer in the 4-3 or inside in the 3-4, so that's a plus.  He had an ACL injury derail his entire 2008 season, but his production didn't falter all that much.  In fact, his TFL total increased from 10.5 to 11.  Coaches rave about his toughness and versatility.

 

 

Fourth Round:  Arthur Jones, Defensive Lineman, Syracuse

6'3" 295

This pick may seem like a stretch, but Jones is rated as the 129th overall prospect according to my most reliable source (NFL Draft Scout), and if their ranking proves true I think Jones is a phenomenal value here.  He is a versatile defensive lineman who has a short history of injuries, so that could cause his stock to fall. 

I have not seen him play as much as I would have liked, but I think it's impressive that he was named first team All Big East with only a couple of games played this year.  That is a testament to his talent and reputation among the coaches as a high character kid.  Here is a scouting report from Mocking the Draft:

Pass rush: Because of the position he plays and an overall lack of great athleticism, Jones struggled at times getting after the passer. He doesn't have a good counter move after his initial post-snap maneuver. Needs to learn how to use his hands better in the pass rush.

Pursuit: Jones is better suited in making plays in front of him instead of chasing down a ball carrier. It will be interesting to see how a recent knee injury impacts his pursuit ability.

Quickness: Jones is fairly quick off the snap. He's really good at bursting through gaps and getting after the ball. Shows good snap anticipation.

Run defend: Keeps a good anchor against double teams. Has the leg drive to maintain his space. Big and strong enough to play nose in a 3-4 scheme. Showed he could be a factor against the run -- see 2008 Notre Dame game.

Size: Officially listed by Syracuse as 6-foot-4 and 293 pounds. This season Jones looked much bigger. His frame appears to be maxed out, but he's built very stout.

Strength: Powerful throughout his frame. As a senior was not affected by a torn pectoral muscle suffered in the summer. Was a high school state champion in wrestling and has great core strength, which makes him hard to move.

Tackling: When Jones get in on a play, he's hard to avoid because he stays low while tackling. Can disengage from blockers and make one-arm tackles.

Technique: Too frequently comes off the snap high, which allows linemen to get under his pads. Needs to do a better job of dropping his butt and bending his knees to get leverage. Gets good placement but he could do a better job of hand fighting. Hand/arm jolt is good.

Versatility: Jones has the size and strength to play tackle in either a 3-4 or a 4-3. Syracuse used a three-man front in 2009 and Jones held the nose. While it limited some of Jones' playmaking ability, he was still a factor, particularly against the run.

Final word: Jones is flying far below the radar, especially after Gerald McCoy and Brian Price declared and Dan Williams emerged. But also causing the low profile are some serious injury concerns. He tore a pectoral muscle in the 2009 offseason and saw his senior year shortened by a torn left lateral meniscus.

Jones is an attractive prospect because his ability to play the 3-4 or 4-3. This would allow teams the luxury of presenting different looks on defense.

Jones' injuries may have knocked him out of the first 50 picks of the draft, but he's a very good player. Despite his injuries, Big East head coaches named him a first-team all-conference player in 2009. 

 

 

Sixth Round:   Walter Thurmond, Cornerback, Oregon

5'11" 185

No change here.  I think Thurmond is an excellent value this late in the draft.  He has return capabilities if need be, but I see his best value as a situational corner early on.  I think he adds great depth to our defensive back unit, and brings great versatility to our special teams. 

 

 

Seventh Round:  Dace Richardson, Offensive Lineman, Iowa

6'6" 305

Just going with what I know here.  Richardson's career was riddled with injuries, but when he came to Iowa he was all but guaranteed to be a first or second round pick coming to the NFL.  Richardson performed very well as a fifth year junior for Iowa, and he was a first team All Big Ten performer this past year.  He excels in the power offensive attack.  Kirk Ferentz runs a similar offense in Iowa that the Broncos use, as he worked with Bill Belicheck during their Cleveland days. 

 

 

Undrafted Free Agents

1.  A.J. Jefferson, CB/RS, Fresno State   6'0" 190   4.45

A guy who has a chance to come in and compete for the KR job, though he could make an impact elsewhere on special teams.  Probably wouldn't make the final roster, but is a nice athlete who would bring in a fresh set of legs for training camp.

 

Stafon Johnson, RB, USC   5'11"  215   4.54

Probably got the coolest comeback story of any running back in this draft.  He's not exceptional in any particular area of his game, and USC RB's tend to be a bit underrated to me because they have so many talented guys there.  I think Johnson is the most complete back coming out of USC in a long time, and he has a chance to be a nice find.

 

Reggie Stephens, OG, Iowa State    6'3"  322

I had us drafting Stephens in my previous mock, but I think he could be a nice UFA tryout player as well.  With the free agent signings, he might not have a great shot at making the final roster, but his versatility gives him better chance than most.

J'Marcus Webb, OT, West Texas A&M   6'7" 335

Gigantic tackle prospect who went to a small school.  If the Broncos pick him up, I think they put him on the practice squad for a year and try him out in 2011 as a backup prospect.

Travis Ivey, NT, Maryland   6'4" 341

Very gifted athletically as evidenced by this photo.  He carries his 341 pounds very well and has potential to break a rotation eventually. 

 

Abe Koroma, NT, Western Illinois   6'3" 317

Not unlike our own Chris Baker, this former highly touted Penn State recruit had to switch colleges for off field reasons.  I still think he's worth a look in training camp, and like Baker, Koroma could be a nice steal.  I believe he left school early to enter the draft, so he obviously has been advised by someone.

Doug Worthington, DL, Ohio State   6'5" 288

Worthington has the frame to add weight and become an ideal three technique in a 3-4 defensive scheme.  The Broncos might look to him for competition and possibly depth, but he seems like a practice squad guy in his first year.

 

Kerry Meier, TE/WR/FB, Kansas   6'3" 220

An extremely versatile athlete who started his KU career as a quarterback.  He turned into a great receiver and some on this site have had him going as high as the fifth round.  He doesn't have great speed, but he runs good routes, has reliable hands, and is a big time threat in the red zone.

Chris Hall, C, Texas   6'4" 300

Just looking for competition at the center position from an experienced guy coming from a big time program. 

Joe Pawelek, ILB, Baylor   6'2" 240

Mark this guy down for the active roster immediately.  If the Broncos see him on the open market, they will entice him by offering him an immediate spot on special teams.  Pawelek reaks of intangibles, and scouts call him quick and instinctive.  He has good pass coverage skills, but is currently being overlooked because of a lack of natural athleticism. 

 

Depth Chart (projected)

Offense

QB:  Kyle Orton, Jimmy Clausen, Tom Brandstater

RB:  Knowshon Moreno, Correll Buckhalter, Peyton Hillis, Stafon Johnson

WR:  Brandon Marshall, Jabar Gaffney

WR:  Kevin Walter, Jacoby Ford

WR:  Eddie Royal,  Kenny McKinley

TE:  Daniel Graham, Ben Watson, Richard Quinn

LT:  Ryan Clady, Tyler Polumbus, Reggie Stephens

LG:  Eugene Amano, Seth Olsen

C:  Maurkice Pouncey, Dustin Fry

RG:  Chris Kuper, Dace Richardson, Stephens

RT:  Ryan Harris, Seth Olsen, Dace Richardson

K:  Matt Prater

LS:  Lonie Paxton

KR:  Jacoby Ford

 

Defense

DE:  Jarvis Green, Marcus Thomas

DT:  Ronald Fields, Chris Baker, Travis Ivey

DE:  Ryan McBean, Arthur Jones

OLB:  Elvis Dumervil, Mario Haggan

ILB:  D.J. Williams, Wesley Woodyard, Joe Pawelek

ILB:  Andra Davis, Sean Lee, Spencer Larsen

OLB:  Robert Ayers, Darrell Reid

CB:  Champ Bailey, Alphonso Smith

CB:  Andre Goodman, Walter Thurmond

S:  Brian Dawkins, Darcel McBath

S:  Renaldo Hill, David Bruton, Josh Barrett

P:  Britton Colquitt

PR:  Jacoby Ford

 

Practice Squad Additions

WR Kerry Meier

DL Doug Worthington

RB Brandon James, Florida

 

There you have it, all.  Hope you enjoyed this edition!

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Great job!

If we got Clausen, I would be doing backflips. Ford is another guy I really want, he looks to me like an NFL WR. I like the free agency as well.

Eddie Royal will have a breakout season in 2010. Count on it.

by stedtfeld on Feb 8, 2010 3:24 PM MST reply actions  

I'd just have to hold your hand so we could do them together...

I like Clausen, too, better than Quinn coming out. He’s a tough SOB too, taking a TON of sacks a couple years ago and getting up every time and then dealing with some serious pain with turf toe this year. He also is one of those guys who gets better as the pressure is ratcheted up (ie late in close games); he seems to zero in at those times.

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by pubkeeper on Feb 8, 2010 3:33 PM MST up reply actions  

stedtfeld..you and Sayre are tops on mocks due to player data.

by DLMyers on Feb 8, 2010 5:25 PM MST up reply actions  

I agree

The half-Who still rocks. Pete Townsend still has such incredible stage presence and can still play well and I was stunned that Daltry actually hit the “Yeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!” on Won’t Get Fooled Again. As a 40 yr old who sings quite a bit, I can tell you it ain’t easy to hit the notes the same as I did at 25.

Step aside, my friend, I been doin' it for years.
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by pubkeeper on Feb 8, 2010 4:35 PM MST up reply actions  

As a 32 year old. . .

The Who are not my style, though My Generation is a pretty good song (love the Smothers Brothers performance when the drum blows up). I just wish all the bands of my generation that I loved didn’t have band members die (Nirvana, Sublime, Alice in Chains) or were more mainstream to do the Super Bowl (311, Beastie Boys, RATM). Though for the first time in a long time the NFL chose an appropriate musical guest. Britney, Janet Jackson, Justin Timberlake were all a waste of a half time show.

Good Show. Who are you. . .Who who

by D-fence on Feb 8, 2010 5:20 PM MST up reply actions  

Right on!

I would love to see RATM do a Superbowl or even SOD!

On the other hand….I thought the who where a million times better than the Rolling stones!

Oh…and by the way…I have no clue about college prospects but i dig reading all this info…my favorite part of madden is drafting and watching my players get better over the season.

"Iron sharpens Iron."

by vdisciple on Feb 8, 2010 5:31 PM MST up reply actions  

I really liked this layout of an article Sayre. Thanks. :)

I’m not of the thought we get more than a 6th for Scheff, but would warm to the idea of letting Stokely go for a solid pick. I think Jab can fill the #2 and Royal would work the slot…. If #15 stays that is.

I’m not a big Draft guy, but if I see two solid additions like Pouncey and Angerer, I’m happy. Just one solid starter really. Depth and competition would be nice to round things out, but I’m looking for any player than can come in as a rookie and be an upgrade to be super excited.

I'm glad we had this talk.
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by BroncoInExile on Feb 8, 2010 3:28 PM MST reply actions  

Thanks for the comment!

I think we have a very deep core of WR’s if this offseason comes to fruition. We need to upgrade the position somehow, and we need a good KR so I could see bringing in two or three for competition.

by Sayre Bedinger on Feb 8, 2010 3:45 PM MST up reply actions  

Interesting idea

While my favorite QB of this draft is Colt McCoy, I don’t think he is quite a top 10 pick, that being said, I don’t know if Bradford or Clausen fit that mold either. But QB is a more valuable position and I think that sometimes you have to reach a little to get a good one.

What I would hope for, provided we do resign the guys you mentioned, is to trade back and pick up Colt McCoy sometime in the early second round, and look to address the DL or OL in the 1st round with a later pick.

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by Broncoman on Feb 8, 2010 3:30 PM MST reply actions  

I like McCoy as well

I wouldn’t be able to pass on Bradford or Clausen though. They are too talented, and Clausen has experience in this offense. I could definitely see moving around on draft day, trading down and what not.

by Sayre Bedinger on Feb 8, 2010 3:46 PM MST up reply actions  

I'd take Bradford or Claussen, not sure I'm behind drafting McCoy...

I don’t follow the players like you, though, Sayre, so I’ll defer.

by Kgrone on Feb 8, 2010 5:32 PM MST up reply actions  

agree, McCoy is not in the same class as Clausen or Bradford. Give me Clausen then.

by DLMyers on Feb 8, 2010 5:33 PM MST up reply actions  

For the Love of Everything Holy - NO!

Somehow we find a way to find a more obnoxious, pouty, abrasive than Cutler? I don’t buy it. I hate the idea of Bradford, but loathe the idea of obtaining the least likable college football player in years. To top it off, he isn’t a tremendous prospect so much as he’s in the Top 2 at his position in a weak QB class. If you’re right about the first 9 picks, I don’t see how we don’t select Rolando McClain to fill an immediate need. Also, as others have said. Getting a 3rd for Scheff is borderline delusional.

by Vortex7 on Feb 8, 2010 3:31 PM MST reply actions  

You should read the comment below

McClain doesn’t fill any more immediate a need than Clausen. Still have Andra Davis and DJ out there.

by Sayre Bedinger on Feb 8, 2010 3:47 PM MST up reply actions  

I see McClain replacing Davis with no question. Andra played very good during 2/3 of the year then really played bad. IMO age stole his ability.

by DLMyers on Feb 8, 2010 5:32 PM MST up reply actions  

I would J in my P if we got Clausen. I'd even be down trading up to get him.

He’s a franchise QB. He’s got the physical tools, the leadership qualities, the toughness, and the intangible “it” factor needed to play the position. If you actually watched him play this year you can’t help but be impressed. He single-handedly carried the Irish to wins in games they had no business competing in. Yes, ND still lost games, but much like Cutler’s situation in his last year in Denver it was because of a dreadful D and not anything the QB did.

People are predisposed to hate on Jimmy because of his personality and the hype surrounding him, but this year it was clear his teammates loved him and rallied around him and he played hurt much of the time. Look I’m a ND fan and I was a hater too, but he proved me wrong. He’s way better than Bradford in my opinion, especially considering Bradford basically didn’t play last year. Don’t listen to Todd McShay’s opinion of the guy, you can read how dumb all his points about him are here.

Yes, he’s an slightly annoying and cocky pretty boy. Then again, so is our coach.

I for one want the guy who gives the team a chance to win on the field.

by SethGrandpa on Feb 8, 2010 3:32 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

Ditto
Look I’m a ND fan and I was a hater too, but he proved me wrong.

Like his Letter signing at the College HOF? He won me over and you are correct about his ’mates.

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by pubkeeper on Feb 8, 2010 3:36 PM MST up reply actions  

Haha! Let's get JT to do a song

I think Clausen would be a nice addition for us too. He gives us a great chance to win for the long term, and I think Kyle Orton will be here for a while too. I think Orton is better suited to a backup role, and he seems like the kind of guy who would embrace that role. It’s a business, and he is fortunate to have a starting gig as it is.

I don’t read much Todd McShay anyway, I think he’s a tool. Great points in this comment, rec’d!

by Sayre Bedinger on Feb 8, 2010 3:49 PM MST up reply actions  

orton is not a backup

Orton threw for 3800 yards last year. He proved himself to be a top 20 QB in the NFL. He’s a legite NFL starter, though not the top 5 QB many want him to be (mostly those who many here seem to think those franchise guys grow on trees).

If we draft a young QB, Orton will sign his tender, compete to start for one year, and then take the first train out of here.

He’s not an idiot. I expect him to either sign a “starter” money multi-year deal ($6+ mill/yr), or hold off on the RFA tender to see what happens. Orton won’t sit around as a low-paid benchwarmer, because he’s proven, with 2 different teams, that he’s better than that.

by cjfarls on Feb 8, 2010 7:06 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

orton is not a backup

Orton threw for 3800 yards last year. He proved himself to be a top 20 QB in the NFL. He’s a legite NFL starter, though not the top 5 QB many want him to be (mostly those who many here seem to think those franchise guys grow on trees).

If we draft a young QB, Orton will sign his tender, compete to start for one year, and then take the first train out of here.

He’s not an idiot. I expect him to either sign a “starter” money multi-year deal ($6+ mill/yr), or hold off on the RFA tender to see what happens. Orton won’t sit around as a low-paid benchwarmer, because he’s proven, with 2 different teams, that he’s better than that.

by cjfarls on Feb 8, 2010 7:12 PM MST via mobile up reply actions  

+1

Orton’s no backup. It would be hard to find a respectable opinion from a knowedged football fan that says Orton is NOT better than at least ten QB’s in this league. And if he’s better than a third of all current starters, he’s certainly not a backup.

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by Alex on Feb 8, 2010 7:45 PM MST up reply actions   1 recs

One other point. Jimmy makes his recievers a lot better.

Golden Tate is likely to get picked in the 1st round and if he is he should buy Clausen an expensive gift. He’s a small WR with a tenancy to drop some easily catchable balls, but he won the Biletnikoff because his QB could consistently put the deep ball exactly where it should be.

by SethGrandpa on Feb 8, 2010 4:48 PM MST up reply actions  

Great thoughts, Sayre

I get a kick out of the insights you bring to the draft process.

I’ll apologize, though, for not being able to get too excited about drafting a QB from Notre Dame. Notre Dame QB’s in the NFL have not been particularly impressive. Since 1960 (the year of the Broncos), these are the Notre Dame QB’s drafted:

1st Round
Brady Quinn
Rick Mirer
George Izo

2nd Round
Terry Hanratty

3rd Round
Joe Montana (HOF)

4th Round
Steve Beuerlein
Rusty Lisch
Joe Theismann

6th Round
John Huarte

7th Round
Jarious Jackson

With the exception of Montana and Theismann, not exactly a group of household names.

I’d just as soon see us take a QB in a later round and address OL, LB & DL early on.

We live in an age when instant gratification isn't fast enough

by Brian Shrout on Feb 8, 2010 3:38 PM MST reply actions  

Look at a lot of the powerhouse schools

and see how many great QBs they’ve produced. I don’t think it’s fair to judge a school’s history against a prospect, especially at the QB position when SO much is predicated on system and coaching.

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

by A.J. Haefele on Feb 8, 2010 3:45 PM MST up reply actions  

I don't know for sure

But how many of those guys were selected into a team who ran the same offense they played in college? And it’s not like Clausen would be going to a bad situation. We have good coaching and a good QB for him to develop behind.

by Sayre Bedinger on Feb 8, 2010 3:51 PM MST up reply actions  

very good points from both you and SDTF

I’ll concede the statement

We live in an age when instant gratification isn't fast enough

by Brian Shrout on Feb 8, 2010 3:52 PM MST up reply actions  

I will say

I think other positions you can occasionally look at a history like that. Every player is their own animal but there is precedent to draw from. A place like Penn State that has had consistent coaching and systems over a long period of time can produce at particular positions they excel in for whatever reason. When the systems remain consistent over years and years and those players coming out of them transition to the NFL, then I think you can take history into account with a kid coming out.

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

by A.J. Haefele on Feb 8, 2010 3:55 PM MST up reply actions  

Nothing wrong with looking at history

but there is a limit. Only one of those listed came from Weis’ regime so that’s the only one I’d qualify. The next most recent, Jackson, was an option QB so that’s comparing apples and oranges.

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by pubkeeper on Feb 8, 2010 4:38 PM MST up reply actions  

The fruit doesn't fall to far from the tree B

Tutored from the 8th grade on with quarterback tutor Steve Clarkson and mentored in the same pro-style offense of Charlie Weis, Jimmy Clausen is one of those rare once in a decade quarterbacks. See below…

Beginning in eighth grade, his parents paid his tutelage under professional quarterbacks coach Steve Clarkson.8 During his junior season, a Sports Illustrated feature dubbed him "The Kid with The Golden Arm".9 Recruiting analysts considered him a "once in a decade" quarterback talent and ranked him as the #1 overall prospect of the 2007 high school class.10 Because of his quick release, some in the media compared him to Joe Namath.9

If Jimmy Clausen is still there (I seriously doubt it) McDaniels would be a fool not to take him! Period.

by bfree2bronc on Feb 8, 2010 5:49 PM MST up reply actions  

i'm so torn about this pick..

clausen reminds me too much of phillip rivers…

by march20 on Feb 8, 2010 3:44 PM MST reply actions  

Dislike him because he's a tool if you will

but Rivers can flat-out play. I’d be stoked out of my mind to land a Rivers-like talent.

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

by A.J. Haefele on Feb 8, 2010 3:46 PM MST up reply actions  

i guess

but then i’d be afraid of his personality being tooo obnoxious… i’m not sure we (as broncos fans) could handle someone like rivers

by march20 on Feb 8, 2010 3:49 PM MST up reply actions  

exactly...

… i mean maybe if we draft clausen we should let mcdaniels and dawkins taken him into a basement somewhere…

by march20 on Feb 8, 2010 3:51 PM MST up reply actions  

that is true...

and if he is coming around like you say then i’d be more than happy to get him… i just wonder how much of his success comes from him and how much of it from golden tate and michael floyd

by march20 on Feb 8, 2010 3:54 PM MST up reply actions  

Disagree

I think if we had a cocky, obnoxious signal caller who won us 12 games a year and every other team LOATHED, we’d probably get along just fine.

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

by A.J. Haefele on Feb 8, 2010 3:51 PM MST up reply actions  

well like da1truth said above, we had cutler who won us 7-8 games..

by march20 on Feb 8, 2010 3:52 PM MST up reply actions  

7-8 games

and still an arrogant SOB isn’t gonna fly in any city. Not even Detroit. That shit rubs people the wrong way but if you’re putting up double digit wins every year, people can deal. It is about winning, afterall.

A little rudeness and disrespect can elevate a meaningless interaction to a battle of wills and add drama to an otherwise dull day.

by A.J. Haefele on Feb 8, 2010 3:53 PM MST up reply actions  

could be..

.. dunno i mean we never really noticed anythign bad until shanny left too lol so i guess it also depends on how well he gets along with mcd

by march20 on Feb 8, 2010 3:55 PM MST up reply actions  

UNFAIR

Look, Clausen’s Letter of Intent day was lame, but to compare him to Rivers is ridiculous. He’s not obnoxious, had one run-in for being in a car underage when someone bought beer and has been nothing but a team player his whole career. I’ve watched him throughout and he’s never trash-talked anyone on the field or “shown ’em up.” You’d be proud to have him if we’re looking only at character.

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by pubkeeper on Feb 8, 2010 4:42 PM MST up reply actions  

I can’t stand Philip Rivers. But I’d take him as my team’s QB in a heartbeat.

by Remember Keith Kartz! on Feb 8, 2010 6:19 PM MST up reply actions  

I think getting the tar beat outa ya as a freshman tends to humble you a little.

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by pubkeeper on Feb 8, 2010 4:43 PM MST up reply actions  

Love the draft..

I like every pick (especially if we can get Arthur Jones that late) but I have my doubts about Clausen. This is a bad draft to go after a QB, if Ryan Mallet were available I wouldnt mind going after him. He has ALL the measurables McDaniels looks for. 6’6" 220lbs and an arm that would instantly be one of the best in the NFL.

Clausen was an avg. QB for two full seasons and NEVER won like he should have considering the talent he was surrounded by. I think he will measure in smaller than most people think. I have a good friend (who plays in the NFL) and played against Clausen in HS and he knows that his size is not what it is listed in the program. I also question his arm strength, while it is average, it isn’t any better than Orton’s.

If the Broncos are set on going after a QB for the future, I would much rather them wait till next season and go after Mallet. He is a spitting image of Brady with a better arm (which is saying something because Brady has one of the better arms in the NFL).

by Da1Truth on Feb 8, 2010 3:47 PM MST reply actions  

yup and thats why i'm torn...

… i guess he’ll be one of those guys you hate unless he’s on your team? lol

by march20 on Feb 8, 2010 3:47 PM MST reply actions  

Hate it – I dont think Clausen is a Great QB – I would rather have Colt McCoy late 1st.

Colt McCoy resembles Drew Brees in stature and accuracy.

Colt McCoy could be had late 1st / early 2nd.

by Broncosfansd on Feb 8, 2010 3:56 PM MST reply actions  

Colt McCoy isn't like Drew Brees...he's more like Jake Plummer.

And there’s no shot he goes in the 1st or 2nd unless a team decides to take a huge reach.

by SethGrandpa on Feb 8, 2010 4:51 PM MST up reply actions  

I seem to remember,,,

… actually making the playoffs frequently with Plummer at the helm ;)

by Clefo on Feb 9, 2010 2:00 PM MST up reply actions  

Great Job Sayre

It would be fun to watch the draft with you. Everytime a player is drafted and I have no idea who it is, you’d be right there to give me a full scouting report. Like having my own personal Mel Kiper but less annoying and less of a fire hazard with all the hairspray.

"No more my bad just make the play"-McJedi

by RockyMountainThunder on Feb 8, 2010 4:03 PM MST reply actions  

Best yet!

Clausen is the pick if he drops past Wash and Buf. I don’t see it happening and feel we need to skip past the Bills to get it done. But Xanders and McD need to find a way.

I wouldn’t even mind picking Golden Tate later through trade. I like both a lot and would be pumped if it happend.

But McClain would work for me also.

by CastorTroy on Feb 8, 2010 4:29 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

Sayre your mocks are certainly interesting that's for sure,

but this one seems pretty expensive for the Broncos in the FA market. Even though it’s an uncapped year, I just don’t see as many $ being spendt as this group could allude too. The current economy and questions in getting a new CBA done will certainly impact the way clubs spend in FA this year, and quite frankly I just don’t see a lot of bidding wars going on, but that is just my opinion.

I do like your draft picks though. There are some real solid players in that group. I’m still not sure about a QB in the first round, but, I wouldn’t say no to one either. I really love Walter Thurmond in the 6th and think that could be a real steal in this draft.

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by bchiper on Feb 8, 2010 4:39 PM MST reply actions  

If Clausen comes to Denver

He better lose that #7.

That is all.

"I'm a Michigan Wolverine, which means I'm the only one who watches 'Rudy' hoping he pulls a hamstring or pops a quad." - Rich Eisen

by Rob4Braves on Feb 8, 2010 5:52 PM MST reply actions  

Good one Rob!

I love it!

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Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on Feb 8, 2010 10:43 PM MST up reply actions  

With the exception of Jarvis Green, you’ve got us standing pat on the defensive starters from ‘09. I’m not sure that’s much of an improvement, nor that we shouldn’t at least aim higher.

Happy to see Tebow off the list, but we’ve exchanged one QB controversy with another one. I’m guessing you’re not really a big fan of Orton’s? Anyway, I wouldn’t want to draft a QB in the first round, but I also can’t imagine either of the top-two QB’s still being there at 10/11, not with teams like the Rams, Skins, Seahawks, and Bills all drafting ahead of that position – not to mention teams behind that position likely willing to trade up for the 2nd best QB in the draft, ie.. Jets trading to the #5 spot to get Sanchez regardless of the fact that he wasn’t ranked that high to begin with.

I also can’t see the liklihood of nobody drafting any centers all the way until the 45th spot. Possible, but highly unlikely. I like the Kevin Wlater pick up, as well as Eugene Amano. Nice work on the Undrafted FA’s.

Good luck with the Redskins Mr. Mike! I'll be watching and cheering for a non-Bronco team for the first time in my life. Well, except when they play the Broncos!

by Alex on Feb 8, 2010 6:54 PM MST reply actions  

Always Interesting Sayre

Your stuff always starts me thinking. Thanks.
I find your FAs fascinating. I, like you, think there is a chance BMarshall will sign with Denver. Also love some of your suggested pickups – Amano, Walters, etc.
As for your draft, I’m still not comfortable that things have settled out much. I think the combine will shuffle things some – at least after the top five or so.
I would be elated if Bradford and Clausen (even Tebow) went in the top ten of the draft.
I, like many, am not impressed that any of them will improve what we have.
But if they went high, that means that others will drop – i.e. Rolando McClain, Joe Haden, EArl Thomas, Anthony Davis, Bruce Campbell – all of which i’d take at the moment with that #10-11 pick.

by ivanthenotsobad on Feb 8, 2010 7:03 PM MST reply actions  

Some good ideas

I always am reluctant to comment on these as it is a thankless task for the creator who can never appease everyone..nonetheless it is fun.
Here is my take
I actually agree with the Free Agents although I can give or take Walter (who I think would be a nice add but not a must add..)
As for Amano – I floated this past my buddy who is a die hard Titans fan and he says they will let him go 100% so he will be a nice add

As for the trades – wishful thinking on Stokley, he is a waive/cut guy definitely this year, we won’t get a 5th rounder for him.
Shef for a 3rd rounder – again, I think this is ambitious maybe 1 round later 4th

Now onto the draft. I think this is pretty good but there is no way Rolando gets past the top 10. I believe that in the top 10 you need to get a player that is the best at his position and that there is no reason to take the 3rd best QB or the 2nd best RB..I think you can make a case tha this OL is not the best in the draft easily. I think KC reaches Rolando here and gets a tackle in the later rounds
I also dont believe the bills will take a WR with Gailey there – if Clausen or Bradford are there this is a lock.
I am starting to think that Lupati will be a Bronco esp if they lose the coin toss. Yes, it is high to take a Guard but this guy might be the best O-lineman in the draft period and I think this guy starts at #20 ends up close to the top #10 when it is all said and done.
Full disclosure I subscribe to the believe that you should not take a WR in the 1st round nothing against Dez

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by SweenDog on Feb 8, 2010 8:39 PM MST reply actions  

Re: Iupati

Doesn’t him being listed as a Guard make him a better pick, in terms of his rookie contract? If he truly is capable of playing all 5 positions (as he’s often made out to be), then you have a potential starting Tackle (not that we need one).

Point is, if he was listed as a Tackle then he’d be projected for the top 10, rather than 20-25 as I’ve seen in many mocks. Lower projection + listed as a guard = smaller contract.

Yes? No? I’m brainstorming here…

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by Rob4Braves on Feb 8, 2010 9:10 PM MST up reply actions  

Some "draft experts" have been talking about Iupati as having the potential to move out to T

If a team sees him as a good OT prospect rather than a G, then he very well could go earlier than in the 20s. It doesn’t matter what he is listed as, if a team sees him as something else.

by Timimus on Feb 9, 2010 4:29 PM MST up reply actions  

That's sort of what you were saying

But I’m thinking mainly in terms of what his rookie contract would look like if he was listed as a Tackle.

"I'm a Michigan Wolverine, which means I'm the only one who watches 'Rudy' hoping he pulls a hamstring or pops a quad." - Rich Eisen

by Rob4Braves on Feb 8, 2010 9:11 PM MST up reply actions  

Tebow..enough.

Enough of Tebow in the top 10 guys…forget it, it won’t happen & shouldn’t happen. Too much money to put on a project.
He goes 2nd round, hopefully not to Denver.

by SweenDog on Feb 8, 2010 8:40 PM MST reply actions  

I think it could happen...

IF and only if JAX are as serious about him as their owner appears to be indicating. Noone else will take him that high.

by Timimus on Feb 9, 2010 4:32 PM MST up reply actions  

Curious

I think Marshall is gone and needs to be as I’ve stated on numerous posts. My curiosity is how what we will get in return will affect our overall draft. If we could add Lupati to this latest version of your mock I would be dancing in the street.

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by BroncoCUbuffs on Feb 8, 2010 8:46 PM MST reply actions  

As I read this post, the Clausen pick....

Popped up a picture in my head of the scene from “Inglorious Basterds”.

“Nien, Nien, Nien, Nien” to a QB in round 1. We Need Linemen. It does not matter who you draft as a QB, trade for a QB or what. If he has no blocking he will fail.

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by IgorBStrange on Feb 9, 2010 1:15 AM MST reply actions  

Where's the Love

Why are you guys dismissing Brandstater as just some late-round schlub we picked up to carry a clipboard? This kid brings some serious talent without all the drama of Tebow/McCoy/Clausen. I say forget drafting any of these wannabe’s and pick up an FA to fill out the ranks. We need beasts for both sides of the line first and foremost. Adress the needs and not the wants first.

by OC Broncofan on Feb 9, 2010 1:19 AM MST reply actions   1 recs

+1...Here's a little love!

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by BroncoSense72 on Feb 9, 2010 5:39 AM MST up reply actions  

And by the way...

2/3 of us readers are polling NO to drafting a QB in the opening round. Does that mean anything to anyone? Probably not. We’re just the fans who spend all the money on tix and merchandise. Why listen to any of us?

by OC Broncofan on Feb 9, 2010 1:25 AM MST reply actions  

Clausen is okay...

I would take McClain, but I would not be disappointed if Clausen was the choice. Remember Orton only around one more yr possibly. I dont want Jon Kitna.

by Orange and Blue on Feb 9, 2010 9:04 AM MST up reply actions  

I'd take McClain in the top 5

So Lord knows I’d take him in the 10 spot.

He was the heart of Nick Saban’s defense for 3 years. He’s smart, fast, intuitive, will knock your head off, and by all accounts has his life together off the field as well. He has “solid-to-great 10 year player” written all over him.

by Hobnail_Boot on Feb 9, 2010 1:49 AM MST up reply actions  

Chevy guy...not Ford

I don’t see Ford fitting the mold of the McDaniels WR.

I understand you want to let Royal focus on WR only but I see them using this pick on either another top OL (Mike Johnson), DL (troupe) or WR (Briscoe or Riley Cooper).

by Orange and Blue on Feb 9, 2010 9:01 AM MST reply actions  

What tells you he doesn't fit the mold?

Eddie Royal will have a breakout season in 2010. Count on it.

by stedtfeld on Feb 9, 2010 3:48 PM MST up reply actions  

size and weight for a 3rd pick

If he gets him in the 6th rd…okay. But to use a 3rd rd pick for a returner 1st and WR second just doesnt make sense to me. The size needed for the slot receiver is at least the size of Royal. The regular 15 yds and in routes call out for a bigger sized receiver. Maybe he’s changing his scheme, but I dont think they would use a 3rd rd pick for a receiver. I see at least 195lbs and 6’ for the min.

by Orange and Blue on Feb 9, 2010 6:51 PM MST up reply actions  

royal "smaller"

yes, royal is a tad smaller than ford per the dimensions they say here, but he just doesnt seem as accomplished of a pass-catcher. He’s the backup to Royal…of course unless Royal is the next go. hmmmm.

by Orange and Blue on Feb 9, 2010 6:55 PM MST up reply actions  

I disagree

I see him as a potential very good 2nd receiver. He may be small, but he doesn’t really play like it. When I watch him, I see a lot of potential.

Eddie Royal will have a breakout season in 2010. Count on it.

by stedtfeld on Feb 9, 2010 7:08 PM MST up reply actions  

No QB please

If McClain falls to our spot, then we have to take him. I still don’t think Orton is the long term answer, but I do think he is the short term answer. I say give him another season or two to see what he can do as he grows in the system. I think the play calling was too conservative a lot of the time so as he grows he will show improvement. Also, if we pick a QB that high, it will bring a big price tag. LB will be a pretty steep price too, but not as steep as a QB. I think we’ll be better off by fixing the interior line first before we bring in the “QB of the future” (see Matthwe Stafford). I do like the the Pouncey pick and would be elated if that were the case. I’ve never seen Iupati play with the exception of some youtube videos, but if we could get him as well as Pouncey, I think the future is brighter than we could ever imagine. Maybe we trade down from 10 to set up getting Iupati later in the first and snag Pouncey in the second. Team them up with the Ryans and Kuper and we’ll have a top 3 o-line for the next decade.

by piggphat on Feb 9, 2010 1:18 PM MST reply actions  

clausen is jay cutler 2.0

no 1st round QB. too large of a bust potential

by lolcopter on Feb 10, 2010 12:52 AM MST reply actions  

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