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Super Bowl, Cowherds, & a HOF Limerick

Stop the presses! This just in. Tim Lynch is back for the second straight week! Holy macaroni. I may just make this a weekly event.

How could I not follow up last weeks post with one today? The Super Bowl was a Super day and even bigger, to me, was the announcement of Floyd Little's selection into the Hall of Fame.

I'll cover that and more today, including a few things I have to say about Colin Cowte..err..Cowherd(forgot this is not a FanPost!). First I'd like to start off with a little lyrical masterpiece(not really):

It's beginning to look a lot like Draftivus
Ev'rywhere you goooooo;
Take a look at Jeremy's pen -- glistening once again
With profiles and resources aglow!
It's beginning to look a lot like Draftivus
Mocks in ev'ry blog.
But the prettiest sight to see -- is the star that will be
Part of your teams fielded cog

Dang, I started out so well only to have it end in such a horrible train wreck. I'd take it out, but that's just not my style. The Lynch gravy train never derails...

Star-divide

Thankfully, we get two and half months of Draftivus! Jeremy Bolander is MHR's King of the Draft. Be sure to follow his links as 90% of his contributions never see the light of day except as links embedded within his front page posts.

Personally, it is hard to focus on the NFL Draft when there are still meaningful games being played. The Super Bowl is THEE meaningful game of the season and though its sad to know the Broncos were no where near getting there, I am still a football fan.

New Orleans Saints

I had my perception of the Saints organization changed this week. I told my nephew, who became an avid Saints fan last year, that he should have chosen an organization with better ownership. As harsh as that was, I don't like to lie and I honestly believed that statement.

That is, until I saw a correlation between the Saints growth as a franchise and our own Denver Broncos. Just because a team is or was a perennial loser does not mean it has bad ownership. Granted, the Broncos had some horrible owners during its illustrious history, but we also had some great owners during the 60's and 70's and still were basement dwellers.

It took the Broncos 38 years to finally hoist the Vince Lombardi Trophy. It took the Saints just over forty to get theirs.

I think the Saints will take over the #2 spot for favorite NFL teams. Still no where close to the #1 team, but because I have only loyalty to one team it is easy to make any other team my #2. Almost always an NFC team. ha!

During the second quarter I recall thinking that all of the field goals and missed opportunities would come back to haunt the Saints late in the game. In fact, I thought that right up until Jeremy Shockey's touchdown catch.

At that point, I started to notice Peyton Manning's happy feet and his visible frustration. Drew Brees looked so cool and collected. My Bronco-centric mind could only conjure up images of the Super Bowl against the San Francisco 49ers. Peyton Manning in the second half looked like John Elway did that entire game. He was trying to will his team to victory. Brees looked like Joe Montana. He simply guided his team to victory.

All in all, the victory for the Saints was a great moment for a city marred by disaster, corruption, and recovery and a fanbase that had seen just two playoff wins in 40 years prior to this season. Congratulations to the New Orleans Saints!

Peyton Manning

I hate Peyton Manning. Not hate as in I hope he dies tomorrow, but hate as in he owns the Denver Broncos. That said, Peyton Manning is the greatest quarterback ever to step foot on the football field.

John Elway ranks second on my list. Why you ask? John Elway took an 8-8 mediocre football team and brought them to contention. He was the difference between an 8-8 season and an 12-4 season. That's huge by any measure.

However, I truly believe that the Indianapolis Colts would not have won more than six games in any season this decade if Manning wasn't on their team. He alone takes a basement dweller and molds them into a championship contender - even Super Bowl winner.

You may disagree. What about Dallas Clark? Reggie Wayne? Dwight Freeny? I say Peyton Manning makes every one of those players a Pro Bowler. Yes even Dwight Freeny. Most teams get down early against Manning and must pass the ball a majority of the time. Freeny reaps the rewards of a Peyton Manning-led offense.

My beliefs about the Saints organization being poorly run were misguided and I think wrong. However, I now believe the Colts organization has horrible ownership.

That belief came with the realization that the only reason the Colts are not the doormats they have been for much of the previous two decades prior to Manning's arrival is because of Manning.

Mark my words, the Colts will return to doormat status and remain there once Peyton calls it quits.

Don't get me wrong about many of the other players on the Colts roster. I'd take any one of the three other players I mentioned above. Success can improve play and make an average player a smarter and better player. Look at Brandon Stokely. He was an average player when he reached the Colts and part of a winner in Baltimore, however, he was never part of an offensive winner.

Peyton Manning molded him into a great slot receiver. Demanding excellence and now the Denver Broncos benefit from that directly through Stokely's continued smart, tough play.

As for the Super Bowl, Manning, great as he is, attempted to put his inferior team on his back to carry them to victory. Unfortunately for him and for Colts fans, the 2010 New Orleans Saints are not the Rex Grossman-led Chicago Bears of 2006!  Colts fans should just be happy Manning is even here to assure that their team is even competitive.

Random Tidbits

1. Colin Cowherd said some things on his show this morning that really irked me. He was talking about true fans. Meaning, the "idiot autograph seekers" who just annoy the players at the GAME and at the airport.

Colin. You sanctimonious, self-righteous, ego-maniacal dunce. Shut. Up! You follow up your remarks with how players like fans who just nod their way or give them the thumbs up. Of course they like that kind of fan, because it requires them to do absolutely N-O-T-H-I-N-G.  Ahhh, that felt good.

I don't want to hear about players who dislike signing autographs. It's been a part of the game forever. You make millions to play a game. Shut up and sign my frickin' hat. Those annoying fans you speak of, Colin, paid for an overpriced ticket, overpriced beer, and overpriced food for a chance to get one free GD autograph. I think we, the fans, EARNED IT.

Sometimes I wonder if this guy just talks from his arse just for the hope of getting on the "in" with more celebrity types. Perhaps so he can name drop with the best of 'em, which he already enjoys doing profusely.

You know, I met Ryan Leaf once. I nodded my head in the general direction of the ink cartridges and he was all pissy and bitchy about that kind of response from a "fan"(not). So when, Colin, is it appropriate to annoy a player with attention or to just nod them on their way?

2. The rumor about Donovan McNabb intrigues me. I talked earlier about how Peyton Manning wills his team to contention. Well, McNabb is another one of those guys who can single handily will his team to victory.

I sorta kinda like Kyle Orton, but there is nothing sexy about a Game Manager. I respect his desire to work on his craft, but I, as a fan, desire a player whose craft is already natural. Donovan McNabb would make the Broncos into an instant contender in my opinion.

Of course, we'd need to keep Orton around as insurance.

3. Just to expand a bit. The problem I have with "Game Managers" masquerading as quarterbacks is that their ability varies widely from one year to the next. Think of Tommy Maddox prior to Big Ben. Or Derek Anderson. Or Chad Pennington. Or Matt Hasslebeck. Or Carson Palmer. Or...okay you get the picture. Most quarterbacks in the league are "Game Managers", but just remember that most teams in the league do not make the play offs.

Here is a list of starting quarterbacks from this years playoffs and then tell me how many are simply "Game Managers" in the Kyle Orton mold: Carson Palmer, Phillip Rivers, Mark Sanchez, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Joe Flacco, Kurt Warner, Aaron Rodgers, Tony Romo, Donovan McNabb, Brett Favre, and Drew Brees. Now look at just the final four.

Inspiration

A minor curve ball here and straight from the heart. I wanted to say thank you to many on the current MHR staff, as well as, past staffers. Each inspires/ed me in a different way to write and to share.

My first thank you goes out to John Bena. Without his constant guidance to keep me from making an ass out of myself - something I am really good at! - and for having cultivated my writing desire for 2+ years now. His blogging is what brought me into the MHR family and his belief in me to write about the team I love has done much for my psyche.

Jeremy Bolander inspires me less about sports writing than about writing on a grander scale. His talent is well known around here, but what people don't necessarily know is that his talent for words goes well beyond just sports.

The two guys that have probably inspired me the most when it comes to writing sports would be former MHR staffer, Ted Bartlett and current MHR staffer, Steve Nichols. Ted moved on to his own personal pursuits, but his posts helped me realize that I can write about more than just history. I still love history, but it was my opinion that first brought me out of the shadows on MHR and Ted helped me remember that. Steve, on the other hand, helped this somewhat mildly intelligent football fan and turned him into a football fan that can talk chalk with confidence. And any writer can tell you that confidence in your writing is the most important part of writing.

Matt(aka Mdierk), inspired me more from the background. He's like the guy in the room who listens politely to the conversation. No one really notices he is there during the heated debate, but when he speaks up the room goes quiet and people tend to listen. It's that kind of impact on MHR that I strive for, yet rarely fully meet. So next time you see a post with his name on it, pay attention.

TJ Johnson, I see you as a sort of kindred spirit. You crack me up with your humor and I've always been a fan of your statistical nightmares, err, I mean statistical beauties. Or what not.

Douglas Lee and Emmett Smith, you two inspired me to take pride in what I do. I have a high standard, but at times I lack the drive(meaning I am lazy) to live up to my own standards. I hope you two will continue to impact this community in a positive way.

Sayre, I barely know you(yet), but I can say that your enthusiasm and creative mind inspires me as well. I think you have made a fine addition to the MHR staff.

As for many of the contributing members out there.  I could start naming you all off, but that would take a while.  I have to believe that you know who you are and that you've also inspired me to continue to be a part of this community and to continue contributing in every way I am able.  I've been a displaced Bronco fan for 28 out of my 31 years and MHR is the closest thing I have to a local Bronco watering hole.

Now don't freak out people. I'm not planning to leave or anything. There are just some things that I never say, but should. I chose to make today the day I should.

Hall of Fame Limerick

My view has changed of the Hall of Fame
Now it appears to be a good looking dame
     When before it meant so Little
     Then I became so happy I pittle
Recalling a Sharpe, the HOF not yet devoid of Shame

Weak, I know, but I still laughed, so I didn't screw with it.

Interesting...To Me

The Indianapolis Colts won 115 games in 10 years. The Denver Broncos have won less than 400 in 50 years. 394-352-10 to be exact. The Broncos are also 17-15 in the playoffs.

That's impressive, especially given the fact that I believe the Colts would have won no more than sixty games during this past decade without Peyton Manning at the helm.

Poll
Without Peyton Manning, the Colts are a....
12+ win team
6 votes
10-11 win team
24 votes
8-9 win team
275 votes
6-7 win team
255 votes
Bottom feeder(aka Raider/Chief-type of team-and Chargers in a few years)
80 votes

640 votes | Poll has closed

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Enjoy it when you let it rip Tim...Thanks

-Stick to the fight when you are hardest hit - it's when things seem worst that you must not quit!

by BroncoSense72 on Feb 9, 2010 5:34 PM MST reply actions  

100% disagree about Manning...

What Elway did, what Montana did, that even Manning hasn’t done, and Favre hasn’t done, is grab victory from the jaws of defeat. You mention Wayne, Freeney, Clark – I’ll throw in Marvin Harrison too – those 4 guys are more talented than ANYONE Elway took to Super Bowls in 86, 87, 89. Wayne>Mark Jackson, Harrison>Vance Johnson, Clark>Clarence Kay.

Add to that Edgerran James is better than Sammy Winder, Bobby Humphrey or Gerald Wilhite. I’d argue that Joseph Addai is too.

Those Broncos team had NO BUSINESS in any of those Super Bowls. Without Elway those teams are not 8-8 because the talent was far below mediocre.

The difference is the Colts have done NOTHING at the back-up QB position.

Mediocre teams don’t win 115 games in a decade – I don’t care who the QB is. It’s not that Elway is ‘better’ per se than Manning – football is a different game now – but I wouldn’t put Elway behind ANYONE!

-TSG

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by John Bena on Feb 9, 2010 5:37 PM MST reply actions   3 recs

Manning is NOT the best QB ever

And the Colts without Manning still would be around .500, right?

By the way, I didn’t know until now that you are a Cavs’ fan.

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by LACK on Feb 9, 2010 5:39 PM MST up reply actions  

Ouch.

Different era. The Broncos ran the ball very effectively and the games were kept close long enough for Reeves to allow Elway to win it for them.

I agree that the Broncos had no business being in the Super Bowls in the 80’s, but they were still a .500 ball club. You take Manning out of the picture in Indy and you got yourself a sub .500 team.

Perhaps what I see in the Colts and in Manning is much different than everyone else. I just don’t think they are all that good…until you throw Manning into the picture.

As for Elway, you swayed me. Manning is now #2 on my list. What can I say, my argument was weak in that regard. I must chastise myself and go watch America’s Game 1997 and 1998. God, I hate Peyton Manning too….I feel sick.

I still say the Colts suck. Be sure to remind me to revisit this post in 2016 when Manning retires. lmao

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by Tim Lynch on Feb 9, 2010 5:43 PM MST up reply actions  

Will do...

sets up reminder ;)

Nice post, enjoyed reading it. Never thought about Colts without Manning but you do have a very good point indeed. I wonder how the Colts people would react to such a fanpost about that.

by Jebbins on Feb 9, 2010 5:46 PM MST up reply actions  

No Ouch..

You have a take, and you provide a solid argument. Where we disagree is on how mediocre the Colts are – other than Manning. I think those other guys are pretty damn good and are the reason they won 115 games.

-TSG

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by John Bena on Feb 9, 2010 5:47 PM MST up reply actions  

ouch was more about not having an adequate response.

i was able to throw one together tho. lol

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by Tim Lynch on Feb 9, 2010 7:45 PM MST up reply actions  

actually

I would never say those teams were effective running the ball. Averaging 3.9 ypc is nowhere effective. But what they did was rely on keeping the game close with a bend but dont break defense, turnovers and Elway having 1-2 scoring drives in the first 3 qtrs (if they were lucky more) then in the 4th if behind Reeves let Elway loose. Those 3 teams that went to the SB’s in the 80’s had no business winning, but Elway is the greatest QB to play the game. That is the reason. Just go look back at his first 4th qtr comeback. Down 19-0 to Baltimore going into the 4th and Reeves let Elway loose. He led two scoring drives and when the Colts could have iced the game Louis Wright had a key pick that was the starting of the game winning drive. Nobody will ever convince me that Elway wasnt the best QB. He did more with less

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by broncfanstuckinsd on Feb 9, 2010 5:57 PM MST up reply actions   2 recs

i watched most of those games and the

Legend of Elway does tend to blur the way it actually went down. ;) though there was certainly many mircles or there would not be legend to blur things

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by Tim Lynch on Feb 9, 2010 6:51 PM MST up reply actions  

You should be forced to publicly bight your toungue.

When God made QBs he pulled a rib from John Elway. The BEST EVER!

by ThorpeBroncosfan on Feb 9, 2010 6:19 PM MST up reply actions  

i already severed the tip of my pinky

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by Tim Lynch on Feb 9, 2010 7:46 PM MST up reply actions  

my WPM has fallen from 75 to 58.3

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by Tim Lynch on Feb 9, 2010 7:47 PM MST up reply actions  

Great fun on a rainy day

And an awesome write up. Thanks & rec’d

We live in an age when instant gratification isn't fast enough

by BShrout on Feb 9, 2010 5:52 PM MST reply actions  

Great post Tim! I (Read: We) are glad you’re here on MHR to keep things chugging along.

However, I’m about to throw more stones at you! I’m going to vehemently disagree about the poor ownership of the Colts organization. That is one of the best ownerships in sports, in my opinion. Did they luck into one of the best QB’s in the history of the game? Of course. But they followed that stroke of luck up with over a decade of smart drafting, team building and team philosophy to win one Super Bowl, make another, and have unparalleled success in the regular season over the past decade. That doesn’t happen because of one great player. Manning has been boosted by good coaching drafting, and management throughout his career.

Polian and the rest of the big wigs up there have done a fantastic job of drafting players to suit the Colts offensive scheme over the years. And aside from Manning, they’ve had good coaching in place to bring in new guys and keep the wheels turning with barely a hiccup. They have a system: Build primarily on offense, get a couple premier pass-rushers, and fill in the blanks everywhere else.

Also, I’m going to repeat what I’ve said in other threads, and that’s a big HELL NO to the McNabb rumors!! I honestly don’t know what I would do if we made this guy our starting QB… I’d probably cry a little bit, snuggle my dog, kick the same dog, break a TV or 4, cry a little bit more, and then get over it and cheer on my boys anyway. But seriously, what has McNabb done to warrant all this attention?

-The guy doesn’t fit our system. Like, at all.
-He is only marginally accurate as a QB. He has bouts of the “Missies”. I’ve seen him go whole games throwing terrible balls the entire time. Why do you think Philly has had such a HATE/love/HATE relationship with the guy? (Don’t answer that, it’s probably because they’re A-Holes)
-He is 33 years old with no experience in our system.
-He hasn’t won anything, and that is with good supporting casts around him. He perennially shrinks in the big moments. Am I the only one who watched his last 2 games against the Cowboys this season? He choked pretty bad in the last regular season game against them, and then swallowed the whole damn chicken in the playoff game.
-He waddles like a duck when he runs! (Yes, I know he is very mobile and much faster than KO, but dammit, he waddles like a duck!)

OK, I’m done.

by aLuffabo on Feb 9, 2010 6:10 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

Good take on McNabb

I’ve always like him as a QB, and I think the Philly faithful are going to miss him desperately when he’s gone, but he’s far too inconsistent for my tastes. He will set the world on fire with a near-perfect game one week, then be horrible the following week. And he does waddle like a duck!!!

- Nick

"We got 'em right where we want 'em!" - Keith Bishop, right before John Elway orchestrated The Drive. 'Nuff said.

by ncm42 on Feb 9, 2010 6:54 PM MST up reply actions  

Perhaps you blame the QB more than the woeful talent Philly actually possess.

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by Tim Lynch on Feb 9, 2010 7:04 PM MST up reply actions  

Not necessarily

I don’t exactly see Philly’s talent as “woeful,” now or in the last 10 years. I do think their offense is talented and very young at skill positions, which is going to cause inconsistency. But looking only at Celek, Westbrook, Maclin, McCoy, and DeSean Jackson, I’d say they have some potent weapons. But fair or not, we all know the QB is going to be the one most judged my the team’s success and consistency….

- Nick

"We got 'em right where we want 'em!" - Keith Bishop, right before John Elway orchestrated The Drive. 'Nuff said.

by ncm42 on Feb 9, 2010 7:10 PM MST up reply actions  

"by" the team's....

not “my” Jeeeeezz…..

“No more my bad! Just type the right MFin’ words!!!!”

- Nick

"We got 'em right where we want 'em!" - Keith Bishop, right before John Elway orchestrated The Drive. 'Nuff said.

by ncm42 on Feb 9, 2010 7:11 PM MST up reply actions  

All we're trying to do is write a MF comment.

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by kentuckybronco on Feb 9, 2010 7:12 PM MST up reply actions  

hahahahah

I can always count on you, KB!

- Nick

"We got 'em right where we want 'em!" - Keith Bishop, right before John Elway orchestrated The Drive. 'Nuff said.

by ncm42 on Feb 9, 2010 7:17 PM MST up reply actions  

hahaha, any time.

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by kentuckybronco on Feb 9, 2010 7:20 PM MST up reply actions  

woeful is a bad word...meant above average.

;-)

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by Tim Lynch on Feb 9, 2010 7:39 PM MST up reply actions  

GREAT stuff Tim!

I had to speed through it, but I loved what I saw. I can’t wait until class starts, so I can read it more closely….

- Nick

"We got 'em right where we want 'em!" - Keith Bishop, right before John Elway orchestrated The Drive. 'Nuff said.

by ncm42 on Feb 9, 2010 6:57 PM MST reply actions  

classic!

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by Tim Lynch on Feb 9, 2010 7:05 PM MST up reply actions  

Thank you BigBlueShoe for the 1 vote for 12+ wins. lmao

just guessin’

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by Tim Lynch on Feb 9, 2010 7:40 PM MST reply actions   1 recs

haha, unfortunately (or fortunately), the sample size is so large that it still represents 0% of the vote.

Oh, the wonders of rounding…..

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by kentuckybronco on Feb 9, 2010 7:48 PM MST up reply actions  

Good piece Tim, I'm looking forward to getting to know you as well!

And as for Peyton Manning, I can’t remember the last time the Colts won a game without him. Did they beat the Titans a couple years back? They were 0-2 this year, and only had 3 losses in the other 17 games when he started. Weird…

by Sayre Bedinger on Feb 9, 2010 8:48 PM MST reply actions  

Ahhh No.

Peyton Manning is not better than John Elway. Who blogs that on a Broncos fan site…brave, stupid, and a good way to lose members. What’s worse is your reasons.

The era of huge passing #‘s started the very year Elway retired. The Rams came out and lit the sky with balls and TD’s. QB’s are protected like they are a carton of eggs. 5 yard chuck rule is enforced to a rediculous degree. PI penalties seem to get worse every year.

Football is about winning! Plain and simple. Nobody could win like John. Yes he lost 3 SB’s but he was never the goat. Manning has been the goat more than a couple of times by not showing against the Pats and that awful pass that Porter picked for six. The ball hadn’t yet left his hand when Porter broke on the ball..awful choke job..believe it. Elway pulls that ball down and runs for the first while doing a helicopter.

Manning gets flustered when things are not going well. Elway shows confidence and even smirks at the defense as if to say I’ll get you next time.

Elway spent 1/3 of his career in either afc title games &/or SB’s. Mannings 1 SB win came against the Rex Groosman led Bears and struggled a bit in that game.

Case closed.

by CastorTroy on Feb 9, 2010 10:31 PM MST via mobile reply actions  

Glad I could be of assistance.

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by Tim Lynch on Feb 10, 2010 7:43 AM MST up reply actions  

The one mistake you made

was listening to Colin Cowherd in the first place! ;-) I listened to him a few times myself, enough to hear what a blowhard he is, and to hear him make so many mistakes in his ranty pontifications. I really tire quickly of guys like that. He honestly made me appreciate Jim Rome more, seriously.

As far as McNabb, intriguing to be sure but two things: he’s about to hit the downside of his career; while Orton is about to hit his peak (and we’ve seen what happens when teams give up on Purdue QBs too early ;-) ) And I also don’t see free agent to be Orton wanting to re-sign and stick around to be a backup to McNabb.

And good thoughts on the Saints. One thing I kept thinking about during the SB is how up and down their defense was, and personnel was it doesn’t appear to be any better than Denver’s defense. Some would argue even worse. And they certainly struggled down the stretch, as Denver’s did. But they stepped up when it counts, in the playoffs, especially in the Super Bowl (and of course had a terrific offense to back it up). But with good coaching and timely playmaking they made it to the promised land. In short there’s more hope for Denver to be closer to contender than people may think, and all you have to do is look at the Saints trajectory.

There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants country, and damned proud of it.

by underdog on Feb 9, 2010 10:47 PM MST reply actions  

Personnel wise

that should read above.

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by underdog on Feb 9, 2010 10:47 PM MST up reply actions  

It was the first time I had listened to Cowherd in months...

the other three radio stations i listen too went to commercial at same time. lol

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by Tim Lynch on Feb 10, 2010 7:44 AM MST up reply actions  

Hey, Lynch! Thanks for the kind words

I will in another few weeks settle the Manning vs. Elway vs. All other QBs with more statistical nightmares:-)!!!!!

Hope you like the one coming tomorrow.

"But I hate the way our identity has changed..Kyle Orton might not be the flashiest quarterback, but the guy is a winner, and that formula worked for us. I hate to say it, but that’s the truth." --Brian Urlacher

by TJ Johnson on Feb 10, 2010 12:19 AM MST reply actions  

Nice writing Tim!

You bring up some intriguing thoughts, but I’ve got to disagree with you regarding Cowherd. Not disagreeing that he’s an idiot – I simply can’t stand the sound of his voice, his style of delivery or his sense of self-worth. In fact, I’m amazed that he has listeners and that he’s been in even mildly “successful”. I didn’t hear his bit on autograph seeking (see above), but I get the sense from what you wrote that I would agree with him. Personally, I think autographs are for kids and that’s where it should stay. Whether it’s Hollywood actors or anyone else, we should appreciate them for their abilities within their craft, but then leave them alone and realize that they’re just people like the rest of us. The idolatry drives me crazy. Sure, I’d love to sit down and have a beer with them and shoot the sh*t, but with the realization that everyone has their foibles and weaknesses as well as their strengths and talents. I’ll probably get all toasted with flames on this – just my two cents.
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by Donkhead on Feb 10, 2010 3:03 AM MST reply actions  

Problem is, I'd be that "idiot" fan who was getting an autograph for my kid...

since my kid would likely get roughed up by all the other parents doing the same thing. not to mention all the expensive beer we all just drank. lol

Perhaps it was Colin’s delivery that pissed me off the most….pontificate is the perfect word

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by Tim Lynch on Feb 10, 2010 7:46 AM MST up reply actions  

Great read and good food for thought...

I don’t think the Colts management is awful, but I do think they are arrogant. I had to vote they would be a 6-7 win team simply because they have NO backup QB. Sorgi….come on…give me a break.

Now, if they drafted a replacement, which they may in the next couple of years, my prediction might change.

I can only dream of Dallas Clark wearing Navy/Orange…..but off seasons are made for dreaming right?? :)

"Brandon Marshall will be a happy BRONCO WR in 2010"
Broncotodd - 2009

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John Adams

by Broncotodd on Feb 10, 2010 7:19 AM MST reply actions  

Good stuff Tim. Rec'd

I have to disagree on Cowherd though. He is the only guy on radio that I actually look forward to listening to. I don’t always agree with him, of course but I think he is right on most of the time. I was with him on the autograph seekers simply because I’ve never understood the autograph seeker. My ex-wife and I attended a game (9/10/01) and she was making such a big deal about trying to get autographs. She did get a bunch of them and we looked at them months later and we couldn’t read the signatures. So in the trash they went. I’d rather just shake the dude’s hand, thank him for entertaining me, and wish him well.

Besides, pro athletes get enough (undeserved) praise and adoration in everyday life from other fans. They ain’t getting it from me. My favorite golfer is Tiger and turns out he’s a scum bag. I’m no angel either but, I don’t play one on TV. As classy as Drew Brees or Peyton Manning or Kyle Orton seem, I’m sure they are flawed just as much, if not more, than me or you. I wouldn’t know. I don’t run around the same circles as these guys. They are the greatest in the world at the game of football. But when it comes to life outside of football, they are just guys. No better or worse than you or me. If I’m going to cherish someone’s signature it would be my Father’s. Now HE is a great man! I know this personally.

What a drag it is getting old. - Mick

by orangeblood on Feb 10, 2010 8:12 AM MST reply actions  

AMEN about COWHERD

Cowherd is horrible…he is a stuck up prickkkk…he comes up with all these “amazing” takes on subjects and goes off on them and he deems them correct forever with out error.

Start the morning with Mike and Mike…then switch to Dan Patrick and Jim Rome until Scott Van Pelt comes on.

Plus Peyton Manning maybe is the best QB ever because you don’t need to pay for a coaching staff…he is the coaching staff..he saves money…John Elway Forever. I believe Terry Bradshaw said it best
“John Elway will never win with the Denver Broncos…”

hahahahahahahahaha

by ndrwbrgr on Feb 10, 2010 8:19 AM MST reply actions  

Jim Rome gives a good interview...

but I will always resent being called a clone. When he’s not doing an interview, all he does is piss me off.

by jayrockstone on Feb 10, 2010 4:21 PM MST up reply actions  

If the Colts are awful without Manning...

…what does that say about the Broncos? 20-42-220-4-3 is not exactly a transcendent, game changing Manning stat line and the Colts still pretty much cruised to victory in that one. If the Colts are merely a benefactor of Manning, then Denver pretty much bites. That was one frustrating game.

I think the deal with the Colts is this: there are some inherent weaknesses in their scheme and personnel philosophy that can be exploited by the right type of team— namely physical teams with respectable offenses. For the most part, though, the Colts can consistently dominate most teams in the NFL. They aren’t a whole lot different than the Broncos in Shanahan’s prime Denver years in that regard— A league bully susceptible to being occasionally humbled in the wrong type of fight. I think its sort of circular argument to hold it against them that they are built with Manning in mind. I think the chicken (Manning) dictates the egg (the defense/personnel philosophy). I’d build a fast, attack defense if Manning was my QB, too. Its a pretty good hedge.

I like to think that Elway is the greatest football player at the position in history. In terms of being a pure QB, he probably slides in behind quite a few guys. But he was a flat out baller who’s ‘it’ factor was out of the universe. I don’t think he has a single peer in that regard.

"We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars."-- Oscar Wilde

by PredominantlyOrange on Feb 10, 2010 8:23 AM MST reply actions  

HOWEVA

Even though I also agree Cowerd is a d-baggggggger.

We are falling into his trap.

He want’s the irrate crazy sports fan blogger to say he is an idiot. That is the whole goal of his show. Which sucks….I just wish he was on at 2 a.m.

by ndrwbrgr on Feb 10, 2010 8:30 AM MST reply actions  

Thanks for the compliment, Tim.

I had no idea that my posts and thoughts were so impactful. Better speak up more often from now on.

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by mdierk on Feb 11, 2010 12:30 PM MST reply actions  

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