Quinn will start
by BideshiBronco on Mar 15, 2010 3:32 AM MDT
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PrintFinally, I can begin to feel optimistic about watching the Denver offense again. I enjoy it even more to hear people say ridiculous things about Brady Quinn having blown his chance and being a solid backup QB.....especially the media. Thats when I feel things are gonna turn out even better than I expect.
The quote, "stop telling me (McD), my bad and just make the play," by McDaniels, sums up how I feel about Orton. He has a lot of strengths and can certainly start in the NFL, but he brings some weaknesses as well. While he isn't a QB that deserves much criticism, he also doesn't deserve much praise. I just got tired of feeling like the offense was gonna stall at any point. While Orton doesn't deserve all the blame, I think McD's offense heavily relies on the QB to read and react. This is just not an area where Orton has demonstrated excellence, in my mind.
So what nutball thinks Quinn has demonstrated these attributes? Well, I watched Quinn in the USC v. Notre Dame game his senior year without much of an opinion of him. When he led N. Dame on the late TD drive, I accepted that he was a stud QB. That kind of pressure, bright lights was one of a kind and he performed with precision as he was in a zone. He has played well in the pros, but has also struggled. What should this tell us? Well, when I watched Cleveland's offense last year, it was obviously devoid of any playmakers and its line was marginal at best. The Off. Coord was in his first year ever and they appeared to run a system offense (similiar to our offense; it was an ex-NE coach). I thought Quinn showed great decision making and Cleveland was in most of the games he started at halftime. The Browns always collapsed and as the offense struggled, Quinn probably was carrying too much pressure with too little help. I am confident that McD will not be putting him in that situation. Why? Because the guy knows how to help his QB succeed.
Quinn is no longer driving a beat-up Chevelle. He's gonna be in a high end Mercedes. Orton showed that he paces himself regardless of the vehicle. Quinn has the tools to drive this offense to where McD wants to take it. Quinn also has serious intangibles.
Quinn will start soon. This eliminates the need to draft a QB. The whole move says little about the other QBs except Orton..... He just needs to make the play and if he couldn't last year, despite winning some games, then he will not this year. Put your hands together for the new starter, Brady Quinn!!!!
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Being a Chiefs fan
I was hoping for Orton, but Quinn makes me worried. I like Quinn but now gosh darnit, i have to hate him.
no way
i think any qb needs a year in this system. i don’t think orton really got it till about game 5. i think quinn rides the pine till game 10. it’ll depend on how we are doing. we might not even see him (besides pre-season) this year. i actually hope not. that will mean that we are playing well. i think that orton starts and succeeds and at the end of next year when ortons contract is up we let him go and start quinn. imo
I actually
think it takes 2 maybe 3 years to be comfortable in the system… I highly doubt Quinn gets the starting job this year…or ever for that matter
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by mbudde33 on Mar 15, 2010 9:15 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
mhm
it’s interesting how Bideshi bases his love off Quinn of one drive of one game, where you can do the same for Orton (NE game last year) and he comes out ahead (he’s done it on this level)
Because Montana has no professional sports, I gotta support the land of my birth.
Socrates was once executed for 'trolling'.
^Needs explaining: don't call someone asking uncomfortable, slightly antagonistic questions trolls. In all odds they probably just want to learn. It's real easy to differentiate a 'Socratic' post from a trolling one (unless you're a resident of WCG).
^Needs further explaining: I have yet to post anything on WCG, don't worry, I'm not trying to rationalize anything I've done. I've just lurked over there and man, they are the model of post-peloponnesian war Athens.
by Drizzt396 on Mar 15, 2010 9:30 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Just FYI
you are trolling on this post… Bideshi has an opinion and so do you, to him the sum of the equation that put Quinn in greatness was that drive where he saw all the athleticism and intangibles that put him into the first round. I’m only replying to your post this way because it’s how you replied to his, and you do make a point. People have favorite players and they get excited about them, if we for some reason drafted Tebow there would be hundreds of stories like this one explaining how he will reinvent that QB position and make one and all in Bronco Country forget about Elway, people are passionate about their players…
As far as never seeing starting capabilities in Quinn I don’t think that McDaniels is the type of person that will throw away two picks on a “solid” back-up. Is he going to be the next great qb in Denver, maybe, maybe not but I believe that when the season rolls around if he is looking better than Orton he will start. Don’t forget that his knowledge of this system, possibly this exact system stretches to his days under Weiss at ND. He knows where he needs to be and if he has half of the work ethic as Simms showed last offseason he could wow everyone by walking off with the keys to the car…
Lighten up
What Drizz said was not trolling. You can state your own opinion without the ad hominem attack.
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Absolutely, bradley
Drizz wasn’t hostile, rude or personally insulting. His perspective has merit, no matter which side you come down on. There’s nothing here that is ‘trolling’. He also hasn’t tried to hijack this thread – he just made some point.
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Agree
While I would love a QB with smarts, strong arm and good vision, Quinn isn’t Manning or Brady, he’s not even Palmer or Mcnabb, and I have yet to see him perform at Orton’s level either.
by Topher Doll on Mar 15, 2010 10:00 AM MDT up reply actions
Years in the system
I’ll go out on a limb here and say it won’t take Quinn that long. I watched his whole career at ND and he was solid the whole time. However, his year with Charlie Weis was easily his best (yeah, he only had one season in Weis’ offense, not 4). He was able to pick up the offense and execute it like it was second nature from the first game (an upset shellacking of Pitt). IMO, this is what partly led to the undoing of Charlie Weis at ND. The difference he made in that first season led him to believe he could treat college kids like pros. He found out he couldn’t. I remember reading and seeing interviews with Quinn when Weis took over. His world was rocked; Weis was all over him like a cheap suit. And, obviously, he responded.
Anyway, it’s my opinion that this style of offense suits Quinn. The difference in the results at ND between the Ty Willingham years and Weis’ season are enough to tell me he has a knack for the fundamentals of this system. It won’t take him 2 years to feel comfortable here.
Step aside, my friend, I been doin' it for years.
Said sit on down, open ya eyes, say open up ya ears....
If the "system" takes that long to learn...
It is the WRONG system…I am not sure why this has become the accepted mantra for the Broncos fan base (I am not criticizing your comment, but making the point that it simply cannot/should not be that way)….in the modern NFL, with player movement, free agency, injuries, and salary caps (at least in some seasons), it is important to have a system that DOES NOT take 2-3 seasons of learning, and I think too many gave Orton a pass last season because of this “phantom truth”…If a coach is to survive in the NFL, I would think they would be best served by having a “system” that allowed players to flourish and teams to win in the short term….I think McDaniels is smart enough to know that, and though some fans may have given Orton a pass…I think that clearly McDaniels DID NOT. I am not sure that Quinn is the answer, nor do I think that Orton is a failure…but I think that the Broncos ownership did not make this great a change in the organization simply to install a system that is difficult to master…I think they want to win now and the expectation is that the system should allow that to happen….and if does not, then it will be McDaniels…not Quinn or Orton, that will take the fall…
What if you don't know Jack....but Jack knows you?
by Hugo Norton on Mar 15, 2010 12:17 PM MDT up reply actions
There is a difference
between fans saying it takes 2-3 years to learn a system, and MCD saying it.
Fans might use it to prop up their choice to support a QB they like, thus excusing bad play. McD would not use it to excuse bad play. When he refers to his system’s learning curve, he indicates not that the QB can be bad early, but that they will get better later. He still expects excellence in the early stages, and mastery of key techniques that allow the team to compete. Later in the learning curve Kyle will be able to check into and out of even more options based on experienced recognition.
I would go so far as to say that ALL systems are like this, but that McD’s makes a point of making this learning curve part of its identity.
Some fans will use ANY excuse to prop up a player that they like, even to the point of making a crutch out of an otherwise valid reason. However, I feel that most of Bronco’s County that I am exposed to believe what I have lined out above, even if only implicitly.
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by Jeremy Bolander on Mar 15, 2010 1:14 PM MDT up reply actions 2 recs
I agree
I believe that the longer any of the guys play in a system the better they are at it because they have gone from thinking to acting. I has to take some time to get all the nuances of any system for the QB and then be able to translate that knowledge to choice without having to think throught the options. Especially as they stand at the line watching the D change their looks. That to me is what make good QBs great. It’s one of Mannings greatest strengths.
If this is the 'wrong' system
Should NE have to give back the 3 SB rings? jk, hugo, but still – if it has worked that well, the fact that you have to have a couple of functional QBs on the team who know it, in case of injury doesn’t seem to be an overwhelming indictment. QB turnover isn’t usually that high.
I would think they would be best served by having a "system" that allowed players to flourish and teams to win in the short term
Fair enough. McD obviously disagrees, as does Belichick, but there’s nothing wrong with an opinion.
It all starts with the lines
What about all the frequent player replacements that the Patriots seem to do....?
…Sort of like the 49ers of the Bill Walsh era, when players were frequently cut or traded before they were in actual decline…rather in anticipation of it…I’d say the Patriots tend to replace parts in their machine pretty frequently and still expect to win….I really think this is a matter of semantics rather than argument….I believe (and iti s only an opinion, to be sure) that McDaniels intends to install a winning program NOW, and all this chatter about how difficult the system is is sort of smoke screen….look, if any of us was paid what these guys are, the least we could do is learn a playbook, and complex terminology…I know I am willing to give it a shot if they want to send the bonus check….in seriousness, despite a general respect and admiration of Orton by a lot of fans, I think McDaniels aspires to even more…and I expect to see the Broncos continue to try different things until the QB of their now and future emerges….and though it may still be Orton, or perhaps Quinn or even Brandstater….I am not sure that McDaniels is sold on anyone yet…there is something that simmers just below the surface with him…he says mostly the right things ot the media, and he creates an intensity within the team, but the passion and drive that he exhibits will not work with everyone….even talented players may not work out under his tutelage…bottom line is he can be a ruthless son of a bitch, a trait that will serve him well as the youngish leader of men….If he had a system that really needed 2-3 years to take hold, I would guess his demeanor would necessarily be more patient and professorial…my sense is that, whether practical or not, he is trying to assemble a team that plays in the Super Bowl next season…not saying he is going to pull it off, but in his mind, that is the yardstick for success…
What if you don't know Jack....but Jack knows you?
excellent point
this is exactly why the pick up of Quinn says that Orton is probably failing in a lot more areas than we understand. When a head coach is regularly commenting that he’s missing a read, its something that the QB is missing literally. He doesn’t have it. This is not a complete knock on Orton and certainly Orton was not the sole problem last year, but the position can definitely be upgraded.
Quinn upgrades the position immediately. I expect he’ll start the season off and if not sooner rather than later. Its a call that could easily be wrong, but I’m seeing it this way.
Enjoy all the comments above!!
by BideshiBronco on Mar 15, 2010 2:18 PM MDT up reply actions
"If the "system" takes that long to learn... "
I am not sure why this has become the accepted mantra for the Broncos fan base
Maybe because Tom Brady said so?
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Some things to consider about the McDaniels Offense and the learning curve:
This system is noted for its multiple formation and personnel grouping variations on a core number of base plays. Under this system, each formation and each play are separately numbered. Additional word descriptions further modify each play.
Example of running play
Zero, Ride Thirty-six. Zero sets the formation. Thirty indicates who will be the ball carrier running with the ball. Six indicates which hole between the offensive linemen the ball carrier will attempt to run through
Example of passing play
Zero Flood Slot Hat, Seventy-eight Shout Tosser. Zero is the base formation. Flood Slot Hat further modifies this formation to a set with one back in motion, two tight ends and two wide receivers (which is to say five potential receivers in total). Seventy-eight is the base play number, a three step drop play. Shout tells the three potential receivers on one side of the quarterback what routes they should run, while Tosser tells the other two potential receivers their patterns.
McDaniels has said in interviews that the first year is spent just learning the terminology.
Further, McDaniels was trained in a system that stresses:
* Their self-critical, perfectionist, and militaristic approach
* Their emphasis on tean, equality among players and lack of individual ego
* Their strong work ethic, intelligence and high level of focus and preparation for each individual game
* Their versatile players, able to play multiple positions
* Their multiple schemes intended to take advantage of their opponent’s weaknesses.
We live in an age when instant gratification isn't fast enough
by Brian Shrout on Mar 15, 2010 3:33 PM MDT up reply actions
Quinn has already spent 7 years in this NE system (experience in the system)
Saying that Quinn doesn’t have any experience is a bag argument. Four years at ND under Weiss. Then three in Cleveland under Romeo O-Cordinator. Orton didn’t spent any time in the system before he started last year. So it is a possiblity that Quinn will win the job.
What will really tell us what McD thinks about Quinns chance to start this year. Is if he does the smart think and opens the job up for competition in the offseason. Orton might not be around much of the offseason because of contract situation. If Brady shows up early and then there is competition in training camp he should be able to win the job he really does have alot more physical tools than Orton and if he can prove that he can make better decisions he will win the job.
I don't think Quinn was under Weiss for foue years was he? More like one I think. Not sure.
C'mon draft! I am ever the optimist! What a fun time of year!
Four years I meant, oops guess it was one year, thanks Pubkeeper. Guess I should read the threads. LOL
C'mon draft! I am ever the optimist! What a fun time of year!
Mike Klis said in his article that Kyle Orton is the starter and that is true, for the moment.
We couldn’t think any other way beacause Kyle is the starter, at least for now. McDaniels has stated more than once that no player is above the starting position and I believe that’s the only way we can rationally think of it. Kyle Orton does have the starting position and trading for Brady Quinn doesn’t change that outlook just because he tutored under Weis or anybody else. The starting job starts and finishes at the end of pre season and then a determination of who will get it will be announced. To sit here today or even next week and predict how McDaniels will see things in the bright of day is wishful thinking and unfounded man-love for Orton or Quinn. We don’t know! McDaniels is going to put the best product on the field that gives the best chance to win and that just about says it in a nut shell.
Whether Kyle Orton or Brady Quinn starts the season, it won’t be predicted here and now. It will be determined at that time. McDaniels knows what he is doing and going to do everything in his power to get it right.
by bfree2bronc on Mar 15, 2010 10:44 AM MDT reply actions 1 recs
nicely said
Especially the part about the man-love for Orton. None of us know what will happen. At this point Orton isnt even under contract.
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by johnnystarr on Mar 15, 2010 10:54 AM MDT up reply actions
Isn't the whole point of predicting taking a guess at what you think might happen?
Obviously, McD is going to let the competition speak for itself, but it is certainly within bounds for posters here to predict who will win it. Look at the right-hand column, the wealth of “Mocks” won’t determine who the Broncos will take in the draft. In fact, I doubt any of them will have any impact whatsoever on who McX pick, but they can certainly predict away…
Step aside, my friend, I been doin' it for years.
Said sit on down, open ya eyes, say open up ya ears....
I knew this was going to happen yesterday
It didn’t take long for the Quinn is a “Stud” Orton sucks threads to begin. SORRY, Orton is the Starter, will remain the starter this season, and IF Quinn (3-9 record) proves he can play, then there will be competition for the starting job in 2011, NOT THIS YEAR. GEESH!!
don't sound so exasperated
its an opinion and based on my reading a very solid one. No problem, if you think it will not happen this year. You may be right, but what we can be confident in is that McD will continue to set this team up for success.
By the way, I tried hard not to say Orton “sucks”, but explain that I don’t have faith in him to make a big play.
by BideshiBronco on Mar 15, 2010 2:22 PM MDT up reply actions
Know you did't say Orton Sucks
I fully support BOTH. If Orton remains the starter, we will improve because he has had a year of experience in the system. If Quinn beats out our new, improved KO, even better. We win or we win bigger. I’m not coming down on you Bideshi, my frustration is more with the tone that emerged with the “he who cannot be named threads” from last offseason that seem to be continuing as Proxies for McD stinks, Orton stinks, etc.
Here's Brady Quinn's college #'s @ Notre Dame....
Brady Quinn;
Stats Overview Passing
YEAR CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT
2004 191 353 2586 54.1 7.33 54 17 10 25 125.87
2005 292 450 3919 64.9 8.71 80 32 7 21 158.40
2006 289 467 3426 61.9 7.34 62 37 7 31 146.65
Now compare these to Sam Bradford, Matt Stafford, Kyle Orton, Jay Cutler, Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady….Go ahead…his stats are in 05/06 are “All American” quality and even Heisman? Check out his COMP% and especially his TD/INT ratio. I’d say it’s not him, it’s the system that failed both he and Derek Anderson. It’s Cleveland……Hello!
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And the reason why he was selected in the first round...
The browns have destroyed a lot of great prospects in the past and that is kind of sad. Let’s say for a moment that Brady Quinn was drafted by Pittsburg, Indy or even the Saints, would we be having this conversation? Would he be a starter in a system like their? Would he flourish in that atmosphere? All of those questions can’t be answered in a factual manner because they never happened. That’s why I’m concerned about where Jimmy Clausen ends up. If he goes to a team with great offensive coaching he may sky-rocket, but if he goes to a team with mediocre offenses then his talent might wane away into oblivion and people will say…See, I told you so, Jimmy Clausen is a bum! He couldn’t be a 3rd stringer on the Rams! IMO, a lot of times it’s as important where a prospect ends up than not. Quinn got a bum rap when selected by Cleveland just like Sam Bradford probably will by going to the Rams…Given some good solid instruction and a system meant for him, Quinn may be the next Drew brees…We don’t know that and will have to wait and find out…Isn’t life good where we can dream of what could be or should be?
by bfree2bronc on Mar 15, 2010 11:17 AM MDT up reply actions
Couldn't agree more.
Step aside, my friend, I been doin' it for years.
Said sit on down, open ya eyes, say open up ya ears....
Good point
So what does that tell you about Orton and his time with the Bears.
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Of course it was Cleveland that was a failure, just as it was Chicago that failed a very good college spread QB by the name of Kyle Orton. Thats why we traded for Quinn. A steal for certain. But, he’s going to need a year to learn the system, heal his foot injuries, and DETOX from the S##t that he went through. Look what David Carr endurred in Houston. The guy is definitely talented, proved it as a golden domer, but has to get both his foot and his head right. And that doesn’t happen in 6 wks of OTAs.
I agree
He can make all the throws and if weiss likes quinn. Then you know mcdaniels likes him. I saw video on about quinn wathcing four years of tom bradys tapes.
While I believe it is a little premature
To name Brady Quinn the starter (He hasn’t even got to Denver yet), there is a chance that he could succeed with the ministrations of McCoy and McDaniels. Is he the Savior? Only time will tell. He certainly has quite a bit of work to do. It has been said that he has accuracy problems. That sounds like it could be a problem with his mechanics. If it is, Josh and Mike have the ability to teach him something and maximize the value out of a very small price tag. It is worth such a small price to give this kid a chance to resurrect his career and reverse some of the damage that has stifled his potential.
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
Well said Kaptain, it's what I was thinking
"A great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do" Walter Gagenot
"Hope sees the invisible, feels the intangible and achieves the impossible."
A quibble point
Is he the Savior?
No, he’s not.
Nor are any of the other 52 guys who will make the 2010 roster. The McDaniels’ system does not have saviors. It has 53 guys who have all been trained and prepared to work together as a single entity. As I related above, McDaniels stresses that his players:
- Emphasize team, equality among players and lack of individual ego
- Have a strong work ethic, intelligence and high level of focus and preparation for each game
- Are versatile players, able to play multiple positions
We live in an age when instant gratification isn't fast enough
by Brian Shrout on Mar 15, 2010 3:38 PM MDT up reply actions
Just couldn't resister Kaptain Kirk. :)
We live in an age when instant gratification isn't fast enough
by Brian Shrout on Mar 15, 2010 3:38 PM MDT up reply actions
LOL
I’m glad someone attacked that thought.
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
There’s definitely a mechanics problem with Quinn. When you watch him after the snap, he’s got Happy Feet. Is it because he’s got a bad oline? Possibly. Is it a problem with his receivers? Quite possible. Is it because he’ll get the hook if he doesn’t complete the pass? More than likely. Is there a lack of confidence in the game plan? You tell me.
He’s got some acquired bad habits that need to be fixed. The good news is that they appear at first glance to be fixable. Is there a “Dark Side” that we don’t know about yet? Who knows?
I don't think any of us know what's going to happen.
I could see Quinn taking the job, and I could see him sitting on the sidelines for two years. We have two very intelligent quarterbacks that are tremendous professionals. All I know is this will make both players better and that’s what’s important.
I really hope Quinn gets a good shot to take the job though, I think he’s got all the tools to succeed in this system, I just don’t know if he’s got more upside than Orton… He might though. I’d prefer Quinn over Orton (if he wins the job in McD’s eyes) for a few reasons, but mainly because if we win with Quinn the MSM will get off our back because he “looks” like an NFL QB.
by legendarywalton on Mar 15, 2010 2:42 PM MDT reply actions
We have two very intelligent quarterbacks that are tremendous professionals
+1.
We should note that even though Kreiger is stirring the pot with the Quinn will light a fire under Orton stuff, Orton will also spur Quinn on to better things. Orton sure handled the news with class, welcoming Brady to the team. Very nice. This is going to work out well for the Broncos and us fans. There’s just no need to take sides when we have 2 guys to root for.
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"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi
I think the biggest thing is
Like a few have stated. You want a #2 QB to be able to get you through a couple games at a pinch. Be able to handle things when you’re #1 guy goes down. It is difficult to keep a quality #2 QB on a team, because if he is that good, he will start somewhere else before long. Gary Kubiak is an anomaly that way. He wasn’t great, but he sure took care of business just about every time he had to. Brady has enough tools to handle coming in the game in relief of Orton.
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
It may simply be an upgrade
IMO before the Quinn deal we had 3 QBs – Orton, Brandstater and Simms. McX have said that they are always looking to improve the team. We just saw Simms replaced by Quinn. That’s an upgrade.
Speculation about who will start this year, next year, or in the future is pretty hard to call on the basis of this action.
The Offensive system the Broncos now use gets more effective the more options and variables it has available. That makes it increasingly complicated and difficult to master.
it puts a premium on smart. But that’s not just IQ. It has to do with what I like to call “speed intelligence” – thinking, evaluating and deciding quickly while distracted by various kinds of pressure.
I suspect more than one former Bronco is looking for work elsewhere simply because they did not possess “speed Intelligence” – (i.e. Hillis??). You can have great athletic skills and agressive toughness, but you’ll not be able to fit the system without a certain amount of “speed intelligence” – especially at QB.
All three of the QBs have athletic skills. All seem intelligent. Who eventually gets the job will probably come down to the ability to make quick reads and god decisions. Frankly, I like Brandstater’s chances as much as Orton’s or Quinn’s. We’ll see. Or a future upgrade might surpass them all. Interesting.
by ivanthenotsobad on Mar 15, 2010 6:50 PM MDT reply actions
I meant to add
I don’t think anything will happen to replace Orton as the starter this year. Maybe not even next.
by ivanthenotsobad on Mar 15, 2010 6:52 PM MDT reply actions
Said Another Way
BideshiBronco; nice summary but don’t agree completely, your analysis didn’t consider the fact Orton only has a 1-year contract. I think it will be a learning process for Quinn till 2011 with a full year under his belt to learn the system hopefully with some actual game experience. With Orton tendered only 1st round he will need to prove he is the starting QB. I see Orton opening up the offensive play calling in 2010 because he knows the system. Here’s where we don’t agree; I do see Broncos drafting a QB between rounds 3 to 5 if the right QB is still available just in case Orton doesn’t win the job out right. I do believe Quinn has the ability to become a very good QB for Broncos, who knows maybe another Montana haha. Go Broncos!
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