Horse Tracks - 3/15/10 - Brady Quinn becomes a Denver Bronco
by John Bena on Mar 15, 2010 6:17 AM MDT
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Good Morning Broncos Country! Never a dull moment for us is there? The Broncos acquired Quinn to improve the situation at Quarterback. The overall situation. I believe that Kyle Orton is the starting quarterback of this team. I believe Josh McDaniels - who meets with the media later today, btw - will say as much this afternoon. The Broncos have now solidified the position behind Orton. Orton has not been able to stay healthy as a starter in Chicago or Denver. Chris Simms was not the answer - we saw that in the 2nd half against Washington and the first quarter against San Diego. Orton is tough as nails and will play through injury but you need a QB that canwin a game or two behind the starter. Quinn does that, and he does it cheap. Unless Quinn takes 70% of the snaps in 2010, he'll earn $700K. The same goes for 2012. Despite my fondness of Peyton Hillis this was a solid move. Hillis will get a new start in Cleveland, playing in an offense that suits him. I'm happy for him, and I'm happy that I'll be able to see it up close. Gives me a reason to head out to Browns Training Camp(about 20 minutes away from me) this summer. Enjoy the Tracks!
Broncos Acquire Quinn - DB.com
The Broncos on Sunday acquired quarterback Brady Quinn from the Cleveland Browns.
VIDEO - NFL Network - Broncos Acquire Quinn
NFL Network looks at the trade sending Brady Quinn to the Broncos for RB Peyton Hillis and draft picks.
Broncos acquire Brady Quinn from Cleveland for Hillis, draft picks - The Denver Post
Broncos coach Josh McDaniels has said he likes what quarterback Kyle Orton did in the team's offense last season. He has said Orton "does a lot of the things we expect well."
Krieger: Broncos put heat on Orton by deal for Quinn - The Denver Post
The Broncos acquired a celebrated name at a celebrated position Sunday, making it pretty clear they're not satisfied with what they have.
Broncos' Orton believes he's still the starting quarterback - The Denver Post
At his offseason-opening news conference today, McDaniels is expected to reinforce Orton as the Broncos' starting quarterback in 2010.
Broncos' restricted free agents to miss workouts - The Denver Post
Orton's absence, though, is different from the others. He is the Broncos' player representative and is attending the NFL union meetings in Hawaii. He is planning to join the team's offseason program Friday.
The end of the Hillis era | All Things Broncos
Has a player with only 397 career rushing yards ever developed a cult following like Peyton Hillis?
Broncos get Quinn on the cheap | All Things Broncos
Providing Kyle Orton takes at least 31 percent of the snaps as the Broncos’ quarterback in 2010, Denver would only have to pay newly acquired quarterback Brady Quinn a $700,000 salary this year and $700,000 in 2012.
Orton not fretting Quinn trade | All Things Broncos
Talked to Broncos quarterback Kyle Orton earlier this evening. He's out in Hawaii attending the NFL union meetings. Orton's reaction to the Brady Quinn trade...
Broncos Acquire Quinn For Hillis - cbs4denver.com
Brady Quinn will get a chance to start over in Denver. Whether he'll get to start is up in the air.
Broncos trade for quarterback Brady Quinn from Cleveland - Colorado Springs Gazette, CO
If nothing else, the Broncos made this year’s preseason and training camp a bit more interesting on Sunday, trading for quarterback Brady Quinn.
Is Brady Quinn the right fit in Denver? | National Football Post
However, when we look at Denver, the passing system it runs under McDaniels does, in fact, cater to Quinn. I do think he can throw the short-to-intermediate passing tree. The Broncos have a high percentage of throws that come out of the 3-step game (slant, hitch, smash, China). And when we talk about the intermediate game, Denver runs the 15-yard dig, the deep curl, the out and the skinny post -- all throws that an NFL starting QB has to make. And all throws that Quinn should make when he gets into camp this August.
Quinn is a low-risk endeavor for Denver - AFC West Blog - ESPN
My reaction to the Denver Broncos’ decision to trade for Brady Quinn? Why not?
Broncos Acquire QB Quinn From Browns - ESPN
VIDEO - John Clayton breaks down the deal sending Brady Quinn to Denver for FB Peyton Hillis and two draft picks
Donovan McNabb, Brady Quinn, Jake Delhomme, more NFL notes - Peter King - SI.com
In Denver, Quinn enters camp as the clear backup to restricted free-agent Kyle Orton (Josh McDaniels called Orton to tell him he was the starter on Sunday). But being under the tutelage of McDaniels should help Quinn, who needs to become less frenetic in his drops and picking out the open receiver.
Browns receive third-round pick for Wimbley | National Football Post
After acquiring a sixth-round selection in 2011 and a conditional draft pick in 2012 from the Denver Broncos in exchange for quarterback Brady Quinn, the Browns were at it again Sunday afternoon when they traded outside linebacker Kamerion Wimbley to the Oakland Raiders.
Foote expected to sign with Steelers on Monday | National Football Post
Adding more confirmation to what appears to be Larry Foote's pending return to the Pittsburgh Steelers, the Detroit News is reporting that the Detroit Lions free agent linebacker is expected to sign with the AFC North franchise on Monday.
Ross feeling good about a healthy comeback | National Football Post
Aaron Ross has gone halfway around the world to make certain his pesky left hamstring, the one that derailed his 2009 season, is all healed up.
Tomlinson contract slightly higher than Thomas Jones deal | National Football Post
Newly-minted New York Jets running back LaDainian Tomlinson's two-year contract is worth a bit more than the two-year, $5 million contract Thomas Jones got from the Kansas City Chiefs.
Peppers could be a weapon for Bears on special teams | National Football Post
If there is something that has not been accounted for yet in the $91.5 million, six-year contract Julius Peppers received from the Chicago Bears, and pretty much every angle has been explored, it might be the value he brings to special teams.
Haynesworth on board with Redskins' plan right now | National Football Post
Maybe the Washington Redskins have limited themselves to window shopping in free agency, at least when it comes to the big-ticket items, because of the massive $21 million option bonus the team owes Albert Haynesworth this spring.
49ers ship Shaun Hill to Motown | National Football Post
More impressive than luring David Carr to be their backup quarterback may be the fact that the San Francisco 49ers found a taker for Shaun Hill.
Agent: Tauscher has agreed to multiyear deal with Packers
The agent for longtime Green Bay Packers right tackle Mark Tauscher says the veteran has agreed to terms on a multiyear contract that will bring him back to the team.
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We're paying Quinn $700?
There really is no salary floor! Now that IS a deal.
LOL
McDaniels G-Jacked the shizzat outta the Browns for Brady Quinn. Word!
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I believe that’s $700,000, not $700.
$700 would still be too high for Brady Quinn.
by Gristle McThornbody on Mar 15, 2010 11:53 AM MDT up reply actions
Thanks for the tracks John!
And thanks for the heads up about the press conference. I hope db.com will be able to stream it live. I liked Kriegers article this morning, but the quotes he provided regarding McDs comments about Simms left me rather confused. We ofcourse dont know how old the quotes are but I just dont get it when he says they want to give Simms every opportunity to learn and win games for them. He’s old and just doesnt have it anymore. I hope these were just old quotes and that McD will focus on coaching TB, Orton and Quinn.
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by BroncosNL on Mar 15, 2010 6:32 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
Krieger...
…talk about the king of inference. Thanks for the tracks!
by DCDonkey on Mar 15, 2010 6:40 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
Krieger
What a clown. He’s doing the MSM job of stirring the pot. McDaniels would have been foolish not to go after Quinn, considering our needs at backup. It’s less an indictment of Orton than it is of Simms, who should be packing his bags about now.
McDaniels G-Jacked the shizzat outta the Browns for Brady Quinn. Word!
by TheMastermind on Mar 15, 2010 6:43 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I've never been so elated for a back up position until now!
I think Simms was living out of a suitcase since the San Diego game
I choose team over player anyday
You know, I was enjoying his writings about the D.W trial...
…so much that I forgot whenever Krieger writes about the Broncos it’s a huge steaming pile of digested food.
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Sorry for the repeated comment – kept getting a safari error!
by DCDonkey on Mar 15, 2010 6:53 AM MDT via mobile reply actions
I like how Peter King got Hillis mixed up with Spencer Larsen
First
Denver gave Cleveland versatile backup runner Peyton Hillis (who might be the best player in this trade)
and then
Hillis became a two-way sensation under Mike Shanahan in 2008, playing running back and linebacker for the Broncos
Picky I know because he did then accurately describe 5 game run before tearing a hamstring… but still it’s nice to pick on the experts :)
"Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind- bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space."
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by orange&blue_aussie on Mar 15, 2010 7:04 AM MDT reply actions
Welcome back from the penalty box
Yup fair call… I kinda admitted i knew I was being snarky in that last line though…
"Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind- bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space."
"It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes" Douglas Adams
by orange&blue_aussie on Mar 15, 2010 10:08 AM MDT up reply actions
Still hilarious. ; )
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Mar 15, 2010 3:35 PM MDT up reply actions
Jury is still out on Quinn
I remember the Rick Mirer of Notre Dame v. Drew Bledsoe of Washington State debate for a 1st round QB pick back in the day. The Patriots took Bledsoe, who did well in the NFL, and Seattle took Mirer, who did not (for that reason, I still am skeptical about mock drafts that have Seattle taking Claussen). I still view Notre Dame QBs as suspect. I hope Quinn does well and I will be rooting for him to do so, but I am reserving opinion until I see something from him as a Bronco. But Notre Dame’s schedule when Quinn was there was not that impressive, so his records should not be touted to justify his future in the NFL Maybe McD can develop him as he dis with Cassel. Maybe not. I still like Orton and liked Hillis. We’ll just have to see how all this plays out. I also see Denver taking a QB in the draft, but not in the 1st round.
Yeah and I remember when Ryan Leaf was the greatest to ever put on a jock strap too...
But, I see what you mean. IMO it’s one less pick we have to take in the draft, we won’t go with 4 QB’s. Unless of course Brandstater isn’t cutting the mustard and I seriously doubt McD would give up on him in one year.
by bfree2bronc on Mar 15, 2010 11:55 AM MDT up reply actions
here we go...
i see this as a good opportunity to see if this guy is any good …we really don’t know.
BTW… How can these really strong kids NOT have good arm strength?
I'll miss Hillis and his heart but really he had no place here. Good luck to him!
by Whidbey Bronco on Mar 15, 2010 8:51 AM MDT up reply actions
I’ll really miss the Hillis under Shanahan. That guy looked like a future All Pro FB.
I won’t miss the Hillis under McDaniels. That Payton looked lost and ineffective.
In my opinion.
That says way more about McD
Good coaches are supposed to be able to maximize the talent of their players, McD threw Hillis under the bus for making fewer mistakes than Moreno. The fact is Hillis was not McD’s guy, but he would have had a good year last year had McD not gotten his wish and Moreno fell to 12. Once Moreno was drafted McD threw both Tbuck and Hillis under the bus for Moreno. He found enough “reasons” in Hillis case to bench him and kept Tbuck from reminding broncos fans, by limiting his carries, of how he could produce behind that terrible O-line when Moreno was not. I sure hope McD’s confidence in Moreno will pay off.
by Keyworthpunch on Mar 15, 2010 4:33 PM MDT up reply actions
Being able the fling the ball 70 yards down the field isn't them problem when they say, he doesn't possess the arm strength.
It’s how acurate the thrower is at that level and to be honest very few own it. McD’s offense is more suited for the short (slant) to intermediate throws that most quarterbacks can make. We all saw Kyle Orton’s arm strength in the Eagles game when he was drilling Brandon Marshall with bullits. Marshall missed quite a few of them and had me wondering if they didn’t have some heated words before the game? Watching that game over and over, it looked like Kyle wanted to throw the ball right through him a couple of times.
by bfree2bronc on Mar 15, 2010 12:01 PM MDT up reply actions
So now Orton has to play upto Quinns level ? Is there really anyone that seriously belivest hat Orton has had it so easy since hes been here that he needs the ehat turned up on him ?
That heat is in the form of a QB with less than 15 nfl starts and sub 70 QBR rating ?
Do they even read there own articles ?
The pressure is always on the quarterback and rightly so...
After all they do run the offense, the coach can only relay the play, they have to make it work…Or not.
by bfree2bronc on Mar 15, 2010 12:04 PM MDT up reply actions
Is anyone else surprised that Quinn is younger than Bradstater?
Count me among the Bronco fans that think the Quinn trade had two purposes that are Denver seizing an opportunity to add a potential starting QB on the cheap as well as a big time sign that Bradstater is not viewed as a viable candidate as our QB of the future
I like the Quinn trade a lot BTW. Other than the possibility of losing Marshall for a measly low 1st round pick, Denver is having a great March.
In my opinion.
I would still like a move to get some help on the OL, as well as a conclusion to the Marshall soap opera. Get those two things done and March will be spectacular.
by Todd Jewell on Mar 15, 2010 10:10 AM MDT up reply actions
The O-line issue will be handled when we pick Pouncey at #11 overall. I assume Denver thinks Olsen can handle a starting roll at this point. Wish he’d been given some PT in 2009 after Hoch and Hamilton played soooooo poorly.
I just hope we keep Marshall. I really don’t see how adding the 28th-ish overall pick in the 2010 NFL draft makes up for the loss of a Top 10 NFL WR (top 3 young WR).
The math doesn’t work in Denver’s favor on that one.
In my opinion.
Truly
Wish he’d been given some PT in 2009 after Hoch and Hamilton played soooooo poorly.
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if we like pouncy so much then we need to put some trade down feelers out there! we could very likely get him very late in the first...
by Whidbey Bronco on Mar 15, 2010 11:59 AM MDT up reply actions
I don’t know. He might go mid round 1.
We need a C above all else and the scouting reports on this guy indicate he is a once in a decade type talent at C.
Why not.
In my opinion.
agreed - I'm VERY impressed with this guy too.
hopefully the marshall trade works out in such a way that we can take both him and Iupati and set up a dominant OL for the next decade.
Iupati at #11 and Pouncey at #14 (or vice versa) anyone?
by bailey disciple on Mar 15, 2010 6:04 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I had this very same thought recently.
I’d be cool with this, but the MSM would freak out taking 2 interior O-linemen that high.
The thing is, after the signing bonus is paid out, we’re only paying guys like Clady $1MM in 2010. It’s a bigger cap number since you prorate the signing bonus, but 1st round picks outside the top 8 or so really don’t sign deals that are too expensive, especially if the player pans out like Clady. If Pouncey and the OG from Idaho are really that good, we’d be stocked to pay them mid-1st round money for the next 5 or 6 years.
I’d rather spend it on them than a boom or BUST guy like Dez Bryant. ALL DAY.
In my opinion.
I think it’s hard to read the tea leaves about Brandstater. My view is more that the team decided it had to jump on the opportunity to acquire a good system fit with pedigree and good athletic skills for a low price. It’s like the best-player-available draft theory: maximize talent where you can, and the roles will work themselves out. More options > fewer options. It seems pretty simple.
The cheap price vs potential was my 1st point.
But Paige said the brass was not impressed with Bradstater during practice and this move hints that Paige may be right.
In my opinion.
And Adam Schefter just busted out that he sees Brandstater as the long-term answer. I have no clue how to read that situation, but
a) I trust Schefter over Woody’s attempt to play a grown-up journalist and
b) I think the price and fit were so good for Quinn that they would have grabbed him no matter what. We all agree it’s a good deal. The question is whether the deal is the result of a specific diagnosis about the current roster QBs.
yeah, its pretty hard to figure out what we think of Brandstater.
If he makes it out of training camp, hes probably at least projected to be our #2 in the long term. that’s about all i can say
by black_knight101 on Mar 15, 2010 11:31 AM MDT up reply actions
Schefter said that? Link please.
And yes, I turst Schefter over all other MSM guys. ALL of them.
In my opinion.
I trust Schefter over Woody’s attempt to play a grown-up journalist
That’s for DARN sure! I take everything that Paige says with a grain of salt.
I think the price and fit were so good for Quinn that they would have grabbed him no matter what. We all agree it’s a good deal
Who’s we? There are many Broncos fans who don’t like this trade, myself included. If folks thought Orton had a noodle arm (which he doesn’t), then they will be REALLY pissed once they see Quinn in action. But that’s not why I don’t like the trade, I think Quinn can’t play, pure and simple.
by Gristle McThornbody on Mar 15, 2010 12:02 PM MDT up reply actions
I just hope that the broncos don't have to inherit that awful Mike and Mike song "I can be your hero, Brady".
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by kentuckybronco on Mar 15, 2010 10:29 AM MDT reply actions
The point people are missing
is that this means Orton is definitely not going to miss offseason workouts. So paying Quinn 700K, getting to gamble on his upside, and stopping Orton from holding out (while still massively underpaying him) seems like a good deal in exchange for Hillis and some late round picks.
I think Orton will still skip offseason workouts. If not, he would be practicing without a contract. His agent would be insane to put him at risk like that. What if he tore his ACL in an offseason workout?
In my opinion.
they said he will be in the ones coming up — he has to miss a couple days due to being the teams player rep, but they expect him back for them
by Todd Jewell on Mar 15, 2010 10:47 AM MDT up reply actions
yep, he'll be in Denver friday when he gets back from Hawaii
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He has a deal
just a bad one year RFA tender…not the multiyear one he would like. How is supposed to go out and earn that coveted multiyear deal with starter money if he misses all the OTAs this offseason?
I have a sneaking suspicion that Kyle (if he shines this season) will be rewarded a big payday.
Why pay him now when he hasn’t really deserved it like Kansas City did with Cassel? Rewards come with merit…As they should.
by bfree2bronc on Mar 15, 2010 12:09 PM MDT up reply actions
yeah, based on the fact that he’s coming to Denver after the NFLPA meetings, I would guess he signs either a contract or his tender before he starts working out
by black_knight101 on Mar 15, 2010 11:29 AM MDT up reply actions
Isn't he going to have to workout to stay in shape?
This argument that it is “too dangerous” to be at organized team activities does not make sense when you figure the kind of training elite athletes have to engage in to stay in shape. The kind of vigorous workouts they engage in are probably as “risky” as organized team activities.
Now if they start hitting each other without a contract, I agree, that would be stupid.
by Keyworthpunch on Mar 15, 2010 4:49 PM MDT up reply actions
To save me time
is it worth watching the NFLN piece on the trade or John Clayton? (I’m more dubious on the latter one for obvious reasons, but maybe he’s no longer in the bash-McD camp.)
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Clayton appeared to have a firm grasp on the obvious
So, no, ud, you didn’t miss a thing. I assume that you were either joking or playing straight man on that one….lol
It all starts with the lines
I was joking
(though I was curious about the NFLN one) I’ll skip both, thanks! :)
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It's hard to believe anything Mr Peebody says...He did have us going 3-13 didn't he?
I listen to Mike Lombardi or Mike Mayock.
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