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No, I’m not a Brady Quinn fan, but I’m a huge Josh McDaniels fan, and if anyone can bring out the best in Quinn, it’s McDaniels. If McDaniels can make Matt Cassell successful, there has to be hope for Quinn. The Broncos gain a player at a position of need without any significant cost. Now McDaniels can keep the pressure on Kyle Orton and decide if Quinn has the skills to fit into his system. This shouldn’t change the Broncos’ approach in the draft.

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Good to see that Lombardi

agrees with my reasoning. :) I see Quinn as a backup. We didn’t really have one last year, so it was important to get one in here ASAP. We didn’t have to give up much to get him, and we don’t have to pay him squat if he doesn’t start.

I don’t see how this would stop McDaniels from going after a QB in the draft.

by Broncos_FTW on Mar 15, 2010 9:43 AM MDT reply actions  

Because we have three QBs on our roster ages 27, 25 and 25. So we already have three young guys (one is starter quality right now).

We have too many other needs to use a draft pick on a QB in 2010.

With our picks in the draft we must add (C, G, ILB, CB, speed RB, WR). Right now, we only have six picks. If we had a 7th and 7th, we’d still want to use them on more LBs and D-Line.

In my opinion.

by McGeorge on Mar 15, 2010 10:13 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

Hard to disagree that we need all of

those, plus younger d-linemen as well. However, there will be no Super Bowl appearance with the QBs we have.

by Broncos_FTW on Mar 15, 2010 10:23 AM MDT up reply actions  

Great comment McG.

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by boydy2669 on Mar 15, 2010 10:50 AM MDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

Well put

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by sadaraine on Mar 15, 2010 12:51 PM MDT up reply actions  

I had the impression from someone (don't recall the post)

that Quinn was pretty inaccurate with a weak arm. I take it you disagree.

I like the move to Quinn, especially over Simms. I don’t care who ends up starting, but do you think that Quinn’s experience with Weis and Mangini is similar enough to McDaniels’ system to warrant him a starting spot, or even a spot ahead of Brandstater in the lineup? It’s hard for me to see anyone, even with similar experience, picking up McD’s system well that quickly. Then again, that whole idea of “taking a couple of years to learn the system” mantra is just something I picked up around here. Maybe it’s inaccurate. I’m interested to read your thoughts on the depth chart and why.

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"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi

by HarvJNep2n on Mar 15, 2010 6:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

If Trent Dilfer has a SB ring, but Dan Marino doesn’t, does it mean that there are other factors that might be important in building a SB team? Because if Dilfer is the standard, then we have two SB capable QBs in Kyle and Brady.

by RichardC on Mar 15, 2010 9:52 PM MDT up reply actions  

if dilfer is the standard then EVERY team has 2-3 superbowl QBs

but why stop there? we could save a ton of money AND win a few superbowls with average talent across the board and a lot of teamwork.

by oxmouth on Mar 15, 2010 10:36 PM MDT up reply actions  

Most SBs are won by teams with elite or great QBs.

It can happen that a guy like Dilfer wins once in a while, but this does not happen ofter in the salary cap era. And when it does, you can usually point to something elite on that team (like Baltimore or Tampa’s defense).

Why do you think QBs are always getting drafted in the Top 5 of every draft. Teams want the next Manning above wanting anything else.

In my opinion.

by McGeorge on Mar 16, 2010 10:43 AM MDT up reply actions  

people keep saying you need a superstar QB to go to the Super Bowl.
The reality is, most of the QBs that win Super Bowls aren’t superstars until they win one.
Was Tom Brady a stud QB before he won his first super bowl?
Eli Manning?
Kurt Warner?
Big Ben?
All of them showed a lot of potential in the regular seasons preceding the super bowl, but so did Jake Plummer in 2005.
The fact is that we don’t know how good Orton or Quinn or Brandstater will be. Not saying that they are going to be great.

by black_knight101 on Mar 15, 2010 10:30 AM MDT up reply actions  

Well….

Eli and Big Ben were high 1st round picks and Warner played some remarkable football as the QB of the greatest show on earth.

Tom Brady is one of the best QBs in the history of the NFL.

Orton has never come close to showing he could be as good as those players.

BTW: I think Eli is overrated. The other’s you mentioned are/were super stars.

I loved Jake Plummer and always wonder why Shanny stopped playing to his strengths in the 2006 season. IMO, Shanny did one of the very worst coaching jobs in the NFL between 2006 to 2008. gameday and otherwise. His excellent draft record over the same timeframe is the only reason we were still competitive.

In my opinion.

by McGeorge on Mar 15, 2010 10:36 AM MDT up reply actions  

I just think its premature to say that we don’t have a QB that can take us to the super bowl

by black_knight101 on Mar 15, 2010 10:41 AM MDT up reply actions  

If the brass thought that way, they wouldn’t go out and acquire a former 1st round pick like Quinn.

McX are not convinced we are set at QB. Anything can happen, but Orton winning the SB as a starting QB is not near the top of that list.

In my opinion.

by McGeorge on Mar 15, 2010 10:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

sorry i think i may have confused you, i was talking more about quinn than orton. he has the potential to take us to the super bowl. he could also fall flat on his face be a lifetime backup.

by black_knight101 on Mar 15, 2010 10:53 AM MDT up reply actions  

Not a reflection

of Orton’s ability in my mind. The brass knows backup QB is a definite need. This was a way to upgrade at very little cost or risk with a possibility that if the kid lives up to his billing of 3 years ago we might have something special on our hands.

Can Orton take us to the SB? I don’t know. But I can remember the media bashing Brees just a few years ago because he was holding San Diego back and not ‘elite’. We can all agree – he’s elite now.

"Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan "press on" has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race" Calvin Coolidge

by SSMT on Mar 15, 2010 1:07 PM MDT up reply actions  

I don’t ever remember the media bashing Brees.

In my opinion.

by McGeorge on Mar 15, 2010 3:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

Here’s an article describing some of Bree’s history in San Diego. 2003 was an extremely rough year for him – being replaced by Flutie – and there were a lot of questions on if he was ever going to be ‘that’ guy.

"Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan "press on" has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race" Calvin Coolidge

by SSMT on Mar 15, 2010 3:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

Wow McG - agree on all

I’ve always said that 2005 was Shanny’s best coaching job of his career and that 2006 was his worst.

That 2005 team somehow was tough on O and tough on D with an aging line, not much talent at RB (Andreson, Bell, Dayne), and Rod Smith playing with a walker and Ashley Lelie and Jeb Putzier actually starting!

The Plummer/Cutler thing enfuriated me and most of the our leaders like Rod, Nalen, and Champ. Plummer looked like a dead man walking once the rumor was that Cutler would get a start (especially on Thanksgiving in KC). I’ve never been more pissed at Shanny as when I learned Cutler would start even though we were 7-4 and in the playoff hunt with Plummer, even though Plummer was having a rough stretch. The same Plummer that was dominant for much of 2005. The ’06 team with Plummer was a playoff team. The ’06 team with Cutler was not.

Also, Eli’s VERY overrated. Put that guy in Seattle or KC or Miami, and they’re looking for his replacement. I think you can lump Eli into the Brad Johnson/Trent Dilfer conversation (this is just my opinion), even though he’s probably marginally better than both of those guys.

Eli has a ring because he played on a grind-it-out team with an incredibly dominant defense. Every few years on of those teams comes along. The Giants D that year wasn’t ’85 Bears good or ’00 Ravens good, but it was really really good.

by super7 on Mar 15, 2010 10:55 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

Plummer shoulda stepped up

He didn’t HAVE to implode that season, he could’ve taken the challenge and manned up…..

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by pubkeeper on Mar 15, 2010 11:20 AM MDT up reply actions  

But Shanahan started calling a game plan that did NOT suit his strengths as a QB. As such, Plummer’s play really suffered. It was bad coaching and bad QB play.

In my opinion.

by McGeorge on Mar 15, 2010 11:38 AM MDT up reply actions  

bad coaching perhaps

but there was a heavy dose of bad QB play on Jake’s part. shanahan’s coaching struggled when Jake failed to grasp the offense, which in turn had to be dialed down.

by oxmouth on Mar 15, 2010 11:50 AM MDT up reply actions  

and Jake was a Veteran

it’s inexcusable for a seasoned signal-caller to have to have a playbook dumbed down.

Brad James

by the new Bradfather on Mar 15, 2010 11:55 AM MDT up reply actions  

*

who has experience in the offense, which Jake assuredly did

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by the new Bradfather on Mar 15, 2010 11:55 AM MDT up reply actions  

Can you give an example of that?

What specifically changed about Shanny’s playcalling that year? I still remember tons of naked bootlegs and play-action. I liked Shanny and was stunned when he was fired, but one of the criticisms I had of him for years was that his playcalling never varied a whole lot.

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by pubkeeper on Mar 15, 2010 12:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

We really cut back on the roll outs and boot legs in 2006 vs 2005.

Did you guys forget that Jake was awesome in 2005. He had the one streak where he didn’t throw a pick in like 11 games.

In my opinion.

by McGeorge on Mar 15, 2010 3:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

Utilizing Jake’s mobility was one of the big things that got us to the Championship game in 05’. I noticed the same thing and ranted to anyone who would listen in 06’. Why abandon something that was working?

"Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan "press on" has solved and always will solve the problems of the human race" Calvin Coolidge

by SSMT on Mar 15, 2010 3:42 PM MDT up reply actions  

Why did Shanny lose his coaching marbles after the 2005 season? I don’t know, but this DID happen.

In my opinion.

by McGeorge on Mar 16, 2010 10:44 AM MDT up reply actions  

Every QB has rough stretches.

At some point, you have to let a guy play through the bad stretches, without giving him the hook. Especially if you are winning more often than not.

- Nick

"Know the enemy, know yourself, and victory is never in doubt, not in a hundred battles."
- Sun Tzu

by ncm42 on Mar 15, 2010 12:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

I agree regarding Eli

He also had a very good year, but he hasn’t been consistent at that level. I was also disappointed with the way that the Cutler situation was handled – claiming that Plummer couldn’t win in the playoffs was a self-fulfilling prophesy. By those lights, neither could Peyton Manning – until he did. It was another strange personnel decision in a long line of them

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by Doc Bear on Mar 15, 2010 1:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

But, the point remains.

Warner was cut at least once, and was famously stocking shelves at one point. Tom Brady, of course, was a 6th round pick and may have not started for a few more years if not for an injury to Bledsoe. Drew Brees was written off as a bust at one point.

I’m not saying Orton is or will ever be at a level with these guys, but at least there is a chance and something of precedent that he CAN become a “Super Bowl caliber QB.”

- Nick

"Know the enemy, know yourself, and victory is never in doubt, not in a hundred battles."
- Sun Tzu

by ncm42 on Mar 15, 2010 12:26 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

I love comments like this...ridiculous...what...they will prevent Kyle Orton from playing in the Super Bowl if we make it???

How the HELL do ANY of us know we wont go to the super bowl with any of these QB’s. ITS A TEAM GAME…..no way we can get to the super bowl with a 6th rounder as a running back…oh, we did.
Thats right….a TEAM game!

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All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
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by boydy2669 on Mar 15, 2010 10:49 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

trent dilfer
brad johnson
chris chandler

by Todd Jewell on Mar 15, 2010 10:51 AM MDT up reply actions  

Phil Simms

Step aside, my friend, I been doin' it for years.
Said sit on down, open ya eyes, say open up ya ears....

by pubkeeper on Mar 15, 2010 12:40 PM MDT up reply actions  

Speaking of Simms

Phil is a great commentator, but his son really sucks at quarterback and I’m glad he’s gone.

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by the new Bradfather on Mar 15, 2010 3:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

IMO – I have an impossible seeing Orton string together four wins in January vs the likes of Big Ben, Rivers, Payton Manning then Brees.

Look, it could happen (Orton doesn’t suck or anything), but he is limited quite severely by his lack of athleticism and ordinary arm. I place A LOT of value on the QB position and I just don’t see Orton ever being good enough to win a Super Bowl unless we had a D like the 2000 Ravens. We don’t and we won’t anytime soon.

Orton is better than Trent Dilfer.

In my opinion.

by McGeorge on Mar 15, 2010 11:00 AM MDT up reply actions  

I See It As Impossible

that Big Ben will ever quit defiling young women, but yes, I grudgingly confess in the postseason, he’s brass

Brad James

by the new Bradfather on Mar 15, 2010 11:45 AM MDT up reply actions  

agreed, but

trent dilfer on the field > trent dilfer in the studio

by oxmouth on Mar 15, 2010 4:52 PM MDT up reply actions  

This point really is exaggerated to death . The rest of the teams should just fold up if they dont have one of 4 qbs who have been to multiple Sb’s .

Kerry Collins
Rex Grossman
Brad Johnson
Trent Dilfer
Rich Gannon
Delhomme
Hasselback

Mcnabb
Mcnair
E.Manning

Manning -2
Warner – 3
Brady 4
Big Ben 2

20 possible QB slots in the SB over the past 10 years

11 of those slots are taken by 4 QBs 3 of which are surefire HOF players .

by Hoopforia on Mar 16, 2010 1:12 AM MDT up reply actions  

Orton is a better QB than Rex and maybe Dilfer. Not anyone else on your list.

Guys like Collins, Delhomme, Hasselback and Gannon were better QBs than Orton has EVER been in the NFL.

In my opinion.

by McGeorge on Mar 16, 2010 10:46 AM MDT up reply actions  

And Rex and Dilfer’s teams had ELITE defenses to help them grid out 13-7 type wins where the one of TD was scored by Ed Reed on an pick 6.

In my opinion.

by McGeorge on Mar 16, 2010 10:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

The NFL is a team game, but having an elite QB is an overriding factor in success. It makes up for so many deficiencies in other areas. I think Payton Manning would turn ANY NFL team into a playoff contender in year 1.

I can’t say that about any other position. QB is THAT important.

In my opinion.

by McGeorge on Mar 15, 2010 11:05 AM MDT up reply actions  

haha…if only we had payton manning

by black_knight101 on Mar 15, 2010 11:05 AM MDT up reply actions  

Of course

we don’t know, and of course it’s possible. And, yes, it’s a team game. However, recent history suggests you need a franchise QB, unless you also happen to have an elite defense. Not just a great defense. Not just the league’s best defense – but an elite defense.

by Broncos_FTW on Mar 15, 2010 11:19 AM MDT up reply actions  

I didn't see Trent Dilfer

as a Super Bowl QB either and he’s quite inferior to Orton imho. In fact the last of Super Bowl QBs that wouldn’t initially have been called “Super Bowl QB” is fairly long. I wouldn’t be so quick to dismiss the Broncos SB chances with an Orton at QB. If the rest of the team is well built around him, he’s good enough to take them there. Period. He’s also of course not good enough to take them their on his shoulders, that much is true. But then again, Philip Rivers IS theoretically that type of QB and how’s that been working for him? Just my three cents.

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by underdog on Mar 15, 2010 11:33 AM MDT up reply actions  

"list" not last

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by underdog on Mar 15, 2010 11:33 AM MDT up reply actions  

Sam Bradford is the only QB in this draft that I would consider an elite prospect.

But we’re not trading up for him nor should we.

The best any team can do is stock pile as much talent as possible in the draft and hope that includes a QB that is good enough to win several games in a row in January.

In my opinion.

by McGeorge on Mar 15, 2010 3:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

Well, let me ask, should Bradford fall

Would we not be stupid not to take him, if nothing else you could deal Orton or Quinn or use Bradford to get an extra pick or two out of a team like say Minnesota or Arizona who may be in the market for a top flight QB.

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by Broncoman on Mar 15, 2010 10:53 AM MDT up reply actions  

i think its highly unlikely Bradford would drop unless his shoulder becomes more of an issue. St. Louis, Washington, Seattle, Cleveland, and Buffalo are all looking for a QB for the future.
if he did fall, i’m not sure what we should do

by black_knight101 on Mar 15, 2010 10:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

I REALLY doubt Bradford will fall to 11.

In my opinion.

by McGeorge on Mar 15, 2010 11:01 AM MDT up reply actions  

I Think I'm the Only Bradford

who will be affiliated with the Broncos in 2010, just saying. Corey Bradford’s not an option, either.

Brad James

by the new Bradfather on Mar 15, 2010 11:46 AM MDT up reply actions  

maybe he can help Orton with his muscle milk intake to get a little meat on his arms.

by NYCBroncoFan on Mar 15, 2010 9:44 AM MDT reply actions  

A Muscle Milk Reference

From another Northeastern guy SWEET!

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by dmitchell624 on Mar 15, 2010 10:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

I agree with this.

My son was asking me this morning (he’s 8), “Is Brady Quinn better than Kyle Orton?” I had to tell him I don’t know. They’re different, but in my mind the jury’s still out on both to a certain degree. We’ve got to see how Orton does after a full year to learn the system and we’ve got to see what Quinn can do on an actual NFL team with a coach who can handle QB’s. I doubt we’re looking at either being the next Tom Brady, but either could easily be the next Matt Cassel.

Bottom line, it’s pretty cheap to find out.

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by pubkeeper on Mar 15, 2010 9:48 AM MDT reply actions  

Limits

Quinn has the same arm strength questionmarks as Orton. He’s got a year less in the system. He’s a project for this season. Until proven otherwise I still see Orton as starter, Brandstater as number 2. It’s a good pick up for what he MAY be. But he’s not the franchise saviour

by mark eaton on Mar 15, 2010 10:00 AM MDT via mobile reply actions  

My guess is Bradstater is currently fighting for a roster spot before he I’d consider him the likely #2 QB.

In my opinion.

by McGeorge on Mar 15, 2010 10:15 AM MDT up reply actions  

Didnt Woodie mention something about Tom B

Take the source for what you will. I seem to recall Woodie saying he didnt think he would make it out of camp this year.

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by johnnystarr on Mar 15, 2010 11:08 AM MDT up reply actions  

IMO – Michael Lombardi is one of the better MSM guys out there.

Lombardi has been really bashing Quinn for a while. He doesn’t think Quinn is an accurate passer. He also said Quinn’s pro day was a disaster and that caused his stock to drop in the 2007 draft.

I thought Quinn looked pretty good tearing Denver apart in the 2008 game, but pretty bad in the 2009 rematch. I also thought Cleveland had the worst WR/TEs in 2009 (outside of Oakland anyway). The Brown’s RBs and O-line (beyond Joe Thomas) were not much better. One of many reasons why I’m not stressed over missing out on Hadnot or Frayley.

In my opinion.

by McGeorge on Mar 15, 2010 10:19 AM MDT reply actions  

yeah I really like Michael Lombardi. he seems to have a bias towards the Broncos, seems like he talks about us on NFL network more than other teams. He is also a little more realistic than guys like Williamson, he looks at more of the possible angles of situations like Marshall’s

by black_knight101 on Mar 15, 2010 10:21 AM MDT up reply actions  

HAHAHAHAHAHA

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by Troy Hufford on Mar 15, 2010 10:32 AM MDT up reply actions  

LOL!

Wow.

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by sirsam on Mar 15, 2010 10:41 AM MDT up reply actions  

yeah williamson is quite annoying. but his posts can be entertaining because he is so dumb

by black_knight101 on Mar 15, 2010 10:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

Your average Bill Williamson blog post

“My take are that Orton is really decent in 2009. Quinn is question marks, but has talent. I like this trade and think Quinn belongs in Denver since Charlie Weis. On the other hand, maybe Denver should now attempt to trade Marshall to Cleveland for a 3rd round pick and Brady Quinn or Derek Anderson. Remenber Cleveland has a lot of early picks in the 2010 draft and they need a WR more than a QB."

In my opinion.

by McGeorge on Mar 15, 2010 10:54 AM MDT up reply actions   2 recs

Bill Has Sucky Grammar

as well in addition to his asinine takes. It should be my take IS. Come on, I learned that 3rd Grade English Bill, you stupid tool.

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by the new Bradfather on Mar 15, 2010 11:50 AM MDT up reply actions  

hahaaha

comment of 2010 hands down

by T.Dot_Bronco on Mar 15, 2010 10:46 AM MDT up reply actions  

Agreed. I rec'd it.

Then I “unrec’d” it, just so I could have the satisfaction of "rec"ing it again…..

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by Troy Hufford on Mar 15, 2010 10:51 AM MDT up reply actions  

but didn’t you compare williamson to….

nope not putting myself in the penalty box! =)

by Todd Jewell on Mar 15, 2010 10:49 AM MDT up reply actions  

Not cool

Don’t go there Todd…

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Are you on the rise? Are you falling down?
Let me know, Come on let's go, yeah
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by sadaraine on Mar 15, 2010 12:57 PM MDT up reply actions  

Bahahahahahaha

rec’d. that’s frickin brilliant McG

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by Joe Medina on Mar 15, 2010 10:59 AM MDT up reply actions  

Aaaaand that's my new signature.

So funny….

Comparing Michael Lombardi to Bill Williamson is like comparing an In-N-Out Cheeseburger to a sh## sandwich.

Williamson would probably eat both – no questions asked.

by Joe Medina on Mar 15, 2010 11:01 AM MDT up reply actions  

Thanks McGeorge

That just made my day! ROMFFLMAO!

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by KaptainKirk on Mar 15, 2010 11:10 AM MDT up reply actions  

Thanks, McG

{cleaning coffee off monitor}

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by pubkeeper on Mar 15, 2010 11:23 AM MDT up reply actions  

almost spit my sammich out on that one

turkey and cheese though. No sh## and In & Out is 3000 miles away (but I had one last week when I was in LA)

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by Darin H on Mar 15, 2010 12:08 PM MDT up reply actions  

In & Out Burger somehow sidesteps the principles of diminishing returns.

In my opinion.

by McGeorge on Mar 15, 2010 3:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

LMFAO

That was way too good…glad I wasn’t in the middle of a drink!

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Are you on the rise? Are you falling down?
Let me know, Come on let's go, yeah
Got some if you need it!" -EV

by sadaraine on Mar 15, 2010 12:57 PM MDT up reply actions  

Drafting a QB

With the acquistion of Quinn, I doubt the Broncos darft a QB. Simms is history. Brandstater will be next if the Broncos do draft a QB. Brandstater played well in the pre-season and should be developed.

by LTC Pain on Mar 15, 2010 11:01 AM MDT reply actions  

This will be a very interesting year to watch Orton

As far as drafting a QB goes, If there is a QB available in the 6th or 7th round that MCD/X have a 4th round grade on, or a similar situation then I would for sure expect them to take that QB. The other factor that will play into the conversation is if for example there is also a RB that they have a 4th round grade on, is the QB in question an upgrade over Brandstater.

Orton to this point has not shown that he is a Super Bowl QB, however there is some reason to believe he may be on his way. Last season his stats prior to the Redskins injury:
ATT: 181
COMP: 287
PCT: 63%
YARDS: 2, 031
TD: 11
INT: 4
QB RATING: 91
(of course these stats don’t mean a whole lot because you play 16 games a season, and he still needs to prove that he can maintain excellent play week in and week out)

MCD/X are steadily adding excellent talent to the team: Dawkins, Goodman, Bannan, Williams, Green, Jones.

He also has the resources that he needs at QB to develop a player just as he did with Cassel.

The test of this MCD/X’s tenure will be how the young guys drafted develop behind the aging veterans brought in (mixed reviews on this so far, to say the least) and whether a consistent playoff QB emerges. Orton is the front runner right now and has shown signs in the past, this season will say alot about whether he is in fact at his ceiling or if he is that guy to take a step forward.

I think everyone would agree that if the current Kyle Orton makes a significant stride in development that he would then become a playoff caliber QB on a consistent basis.
If that happens and the young guys show steady improvement behind the veterans, then I think everyone can relax for the next 5-8 years.

by DW76 on Mar 15, 2010 11:02 AM MDT reply actions  

Mike lombardi's last sentence might not be true!

if we didn’t trade for Quinn we more than likely would have drafted a quarterback in the draft! Simms has no life support left on this team IMO and will be released shortly. Mike didn’t even have to say what we already know! McDaniels has no trouble believing in himself and doesn’t need an analyst to reconfirm that! Whether McDaniels makes a top notch quarterback out of Quinn, only time will give us that conclusion, all we know is what we see and Cassel was or is a servicable backup…he has demonstrated that much and as far as a great quarterback? he’ll have to do better than he did last year…And good luck with that in Kansas City bud!

by bfree2bronc on Mar 15, 2010 11:27 AM MDT reply actions  

BRONCOS

CUT CHRIS SIMMS FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!

by Nick Cast on Mar 15, 2010 1:11 PM MDT reply actions  

Quinn

The trade for Quinn is a very good one for the Broncos as we now have a potentially solid backup QB in Quinn. Quinn has been nothing short of a total bust in the NFL as a starter and I believe that is why the well respected Mike Holmgrem gave up on him. I believe McD will turn Quinn into a solid #2 guy and nothing more. It seems like many on this site who are viewing the trade as a sign that the Broncos are unhappy with Orton, or are anticipating that McD is a miracle worker and will somehow transform Quinn into something more than a backup are kidding themselves.

by rocko1 on Mar 15, 2010 1:20 PM MDT reply actions   3 recs

good comment Rocko!

Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.

by boydy2669 on Mar 15, 2010 4:45 PM MDT up reply actions  

Yep - rec'd

It all starts with the lines

by Doc Bear on Mar 15, 2010 6:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

Did anyone listen to Quinn's conference call on denverbroncos.com?

It sounds like he is very excited to come here. I can’t imagine that he wouldn’t be…getting to work with a coach with a known reputation for coaching up QBs, have two good tackles instead of one, and legitimate targets as WRs. Plus he gets a new start AND gets to live in Denver.
Based on how he phrased his answer to whether or not he wants to start, I’d say he’s going to try and work his butt off and see if he can’t win the starting job….I wonder how much of Weis’s system will translate over, I imagine that will help a lot.
If you listen to the interviews of the new players that they have up (Jones, Bannan, and Quinn), it just seems like they all have the same philosophy. They never stop talking about the importance of hard work and being flexible. I like having everyone on the same page.

To me, it feels like we got a first round pick for free. How can anyone have any expectation that Clausen or Bradford will do any better than Quinn at this point?

by black_knight101 on Mar 15, 2010 6:41 PM MDT reply actions   1 recs

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