A Little Venting Needed
by Nick Cast on Mar 16, 2010 10:16 PM MDT
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PrintIt has been almost a year since Cutler was traded to the Chicago Bears. It has been an up and down year for the Denver Broncos. We suffered through more drama this season then anybody. There was no way this off season was going to be as stressful as the last one. On Sunday, Denver traded for Brady Quinn. It is a news worthy story, but nothing like the Cutler fiasco. Today, I come across this video and this just boils my blood.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d816fbf8c&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true
These analysts start talking about how the Denver trade was pretty good for the Broncos. After the 10 seconds of positive, they go directly into bashing the Broncos. First thing they talked about was trading Cutler. ARE YOU KIDDING ME?! That was last off season. It was handled poorly, but it was handled poorly on both sides. Cutler stopped communicating after finding out about Cassel. He played the "poor me" card and cry babied himself out of Denver. He then showed his maturity by bashing us, the fans. I never will forgive him for that. That is just classless.
Then they start talking about us trying to trade Brandon Marshall. They say we are trying to get rid of our best playmaker. That is so false I don't even know where to begin! We would all LOVE to have a hard working, mature Brandon Marshall on our team. It would be a dream come true, but we don't have him. We have the immature, all about me Brandon Marshall. So yes, we are going to listen to offers for him. His talent is unquestioned, but there are enough questions about his attitude to complete a game of jeopardy. They conveniently leave out how Brandon didn't want to play week 17. Whether he said it or not, he didn't want to play. He got his 100 catches and 1000 yards and decided "okay that's enough for a big contract, I'm done." IMO, Brandon and the Broncos are finished. Too many chances have been wasted. I don't care how many pro bowls he makes. He is a cancer to the locker room. I am on the side of Champ and the others who supported McD in benching Marshall.
They are also saying how Denver is getting rid of "their best tight end" in Tony Scheffler. Tony Scheffler is NOT the best tight end for the Denver Broncos. Denver's offensive scheme calls for good blocking tight ends which is the exact opposite of Tony Scheffler. Daniel Graham is the best tight end in Denver. The best tight end in Denver would never give up at the end of the year (WHILE WE ARE STILL IN CONTENTION FOR THE PLAYOFFS!).
Then they start talking about how Denver "let go" of Mike Nolan. At this point, I was furious. Denver and Mike both agreed it was best for them to split ways. They had a friendly split and that was the end of it. They promoted Wink at the recommendation of every veteran defensive player that we have grown to respect and love. But the MSM decides to paint Josh McD as the bad guy. They say "they released him because they didn't agree with his play calling on game day". If Denver had truly released Mike without some kind of willingness on his side, we would have heard about it. Unless I am totally wrong, the fact is that they both decided it was best to split.
Some of you might be asking what the point of this post is. Quite frankly, it's too point out how dumb and biased the MSM is. I also want to see if I am the only person who feels this way. These analysts sit there and act like they know everything about the Broncos organization when they don't. I would bet that half of the people who post regularly on this site are know more about the Broncos then the actual analysts who are getting paid to comment know. I'm sick of these people sitting down and condemning every move that the Broncos make. Was trading Cutler the best move? Probably not, but it is totally unfair to keep the blame all on McD. Was the benching of Brandon Marshall and Tony Scheffler a smart move? Strategically No, but from a coach's perspective I would have done the exact same thing. I don't want anyone playing unless they want to win. Players like Brian Dawkins want to win. You can see it on their face how much they want to win. They deserve to have players out there on the field with them who want it just as bad. Brandon and Tony did not want to win.
People have been against Josh since the day he got hired. They kept saying he was really young and inexperienced. Then, the Cutler situation happened, and they have never changed their views about him. Never mind that he took a team who was projected as 5-11 at best and nearly took them to the playoffs. The main stream media is acting like a child. Make one mistake and they never let you forget it. Dear MSM, Your job is to report the facts. Stop giving us your biased opinions because nobody wants to here them.
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I'm not sure that there is a 'MSM' perspective on this right now
I understand your irritation. i watched Woodson at ESPN making a fool of himself, talking about things that weren’t at all true, caught in the past, rehashing rumors and half-truths and I just hit the blessed mute button. I don’t have enough time in my life to listen to nonsense, or read it for that matter.
But some of the writers are trying to be more fair this year and a few, like Michael Lombardi, are unabashed McDaniels advocates. Rather than dump them all into one category (or one river, if it’s fast and deep enough :D), I’m just skimming and moving on if it’s moronic. Some is. Woodson obviously has some kind of axe to grind, but as you very eloquently pointed out – he doesn’t know what he’s talking about. This is the ‘jockocracy’ that has been panned for almost a generation now, sports news by people with a very limited amount of info or perspective, whose major draw is that they once played the game, not that they have been trained in video or print journalism, have extensive con6tacts or a coaching level of training. Don’t let them upset you for long – living well really is the best revenge. Ignorance is it’s own punishment.
It all starts with the lines
by Doc Bear on Mar 16, 2010 10:27 PM MDT reply actions 6 recs
Your right
Ignorance is definitely it’s own punishment. I just have such a hard time listening to people talk when they are so blatantly wrong. I agree about ppl like Michael Lombardi. I meant to put in there that there are some who aren’t biased. Anyway, thanks for the comment.
Ignorance is a choice not a way of life.
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
+1
The “MSM” is as divided on McDaniels as the Broncos fanbase.
We live in an age when instant gratification isn't fast enough
by Brian Shrout on Mar 16, 2010 10:43 PM MDT up reply actions
I'd say no bias against the Broncos
but there’s a solid east coast slant because a lot of the writers/t.v. folks live and work there. i read and watch espn, read the DP and NFL.com and i honestly don’t get most of the hate around MHR. my guess is that it’s about the same on every fan site and that everyone thinks their team is the world’s ugly stepchild. but someone like john clayton, for example, gets grilled around here if he says something negative, even though no one points out that in his next article he admits he was wrong or even says something positive. who cares? it’s his opinion and it’s what he gets paid for. i seriously doubt that clayton has some childhood grudge against the denver broncos.
i would say though, along with the east coast slant on everything, that there’s definitely a good portion of just plain, good ol’ fashioned shoddy and lazy reportage going around, which i’d differentiate from bias or hatred.
Check out
Any of Woody Paige’s articles.
by Topher Doll on Mar 17, 2010 12:11 AM MDT up reply actions
Most of his articles
Are quite against most things the Broncos have done this past season, and has generally been for the putting down of Orton and McD, one of his better ideas was to have Simms be our starter.
by Topher Doll on Mar 17, 2010 12:38 AM MDT up reply actions
that was
a little tongue in cheek. as in, do i really have to read a paige article? i know what you’re saying, but woody’s not a hater. he’s actually a broncos fan—no kidding. he admitted immediately how wrong he was about the simms thing and no one seemed to acknowledge that. he’s said plenty of good things about mcD and Co. and if things turn around he’ll be all over the bandwagon. i don’t really relish defending woody, but again, he’s an opinion and entertainment guy and he’s absolutely not biased against the broncos.
About Marshall....
If it so patently false that he is our best play maker, then who is? Also to say he wasn’t hurt at the end, where is your evidence? If I was BM, I would be a bit tentative to agree with our training staff after they blew is so bad the year before. I’m ok with you going after the MSM, although that split that so upsets you is also within our fan base. But I think you are way to harsh on BM. I have my issues with his maturity as well, but that was a pretty tough diatribe on him.
Also, did you ever hear a quote from Champ or any other player about BM being a cancer and needing to be sat or is this just what McD said the players said?
"Pain don't hurt" - Swayze (Road House) -- We miss you man!
and about the MSM job to just report facts.....
just not true.
"Pain don't hurt" - Swayze (Road House) -- We miss you man!
Emmett
talked about the injury below and that was my basis. The MRI didn’t show anything. Anyway, the cancer comment was in my opinion. There was a report from one of ESPN’s analysts that said the players supported the Marshall suspension. I don’t remember who said it though. The point is, players having to worry if Brandon is going to act up throughout the year. His unpredictability is damaging to the team chemistry.
I actually do understand where you are coming from....
it is just that I don’t think we can win with nothing but boy scouts. Sometimes it is the bad boys that are the best on the field. It is about finding the right balance of players. I am not sure I am willing to give BM the credit that he can destroy a locker room. I don’t think many players really can….it seems to me that there have only been a handful that could actually pull that off.
"Pain don't hurt" - Swayze (Road House) -- We miss you man!
I think his history comes into play.....
The training staff maybe blew it last year, but I also remember Shanny telling BM he had to go out and practice a few years ago. I guess the thing that tips the scales for me is the whole “it’s too cold and hurts to breathe” issue. That, in my mind shows that his mind was not where it needed to be going in to a must-win game. I can only imagine what’s going on in Dawk, or Doom’s minds hearing that from our ‘biggest play-maker’.
I hope BM is back next year, but I also will not lament if he moves on.
Practice.. you talkin about Practice.. PRACTICE
Sorry.. I couldnt resist..
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by johnnystarr on Mar 18, 2010 10:43 AM MDT up reply actions
About Marshall's 'injury'
There is a vast difference between the amount of information that you can glean from MRIs of the hip and MRIs of the hamstring: the hamstring will show inflammation, minor tearing, fluid from any torn muscle fibers, etc. The hip is a much different, much more difficult Dx (diagnosis – sorry. I drop into jargon at times, a professional hazard….) and many injuries of the hip do not show up on MRI. If Marshall’s hamstring was injured so badly that it would keep him from playing, it would show on the test. It didn’t. He was exaggerating another injury, a pattern that Brandon has followed since his first training camp. Marshall can act like a real… well, you know…
I consider him unusually talented and I’d like to keep him in Denver, but he’s also a time bomb – you just don’t know when he’s going to become Bad Brandon. It’s frustrating as heck to watch.
It all starts with the lines
by Doc Bear on Mar 16, 2010 11:04 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
I'll give it to you that it can be frustrating...
although I do think he brings it as good as every other player on game day. You could very well be right about the injury, it just isn’t as obvious to me that he simply chose not to play when he was healthy enough to do so….maybe you are right, I suppose we will never know the true answer.
"Pain don't hurt" - Swayze (Road House) -- We miss you man!
Emmett, thanks for the lowdown on the MRI regarding the hamstring injury.
I’ve been wondering why the reaction from McDaniels was so strong based on the test. My experience w/ MRI’s has been for neurological testing, and while it was helpful, it also seemed incredibally vauge and conditional.
Given that the hamstring injury would show, and he wasn’t willing to play, it seems that benching him to open a spot on the game day roster is a prudent move, and maybe even a bit of an under-reaction given that we really needed to win the upcoming MF game.
"My job description is to win football games. I'm a hard worker. I'm not flashy by any means, but my job is to play football and win and I plan to do that." Kyle Orton
Woodson
should be fired! It’s pretty bad when Dukes who hates Denver questions what you are talking about Woodcock!
The only difference between insanity and genius is perception.... Matthew 12:30
Negative Nelly
Thats your opinion, wrong but your’s. Josh is trying to build a TEAM which consist of men not boys like Cutler, B-Marsh, Scheffler. If B-Marsh would grow up he could be the man on our TEAM. Give it time and you’ll start to see the affect no one is perfect and it takes time. Every move Shanny made wasn’t perfect at least you can see this year where Josh found out his D-line wasn’t working and he did something about it. I don’t love every move Josh makes but he is the coach not me and I’m sure his job is easy. As for the analysts they kill me none like denver try sirius radio, what tells the hole story is Shannon Sharp not making the hall of fame JOKE.
I was surpised
Because Dukes was “The One” that bashed Denver and McD really hard last year and this time was Woodson who was doing it.
But I’m pretty sure that if we go (and believe me, I’m not on the Kool Aid) to the playoffs they will say this team is for real, as all of them were praising the team on week 7 last year.
Anyone who watched Cutler play this year in Chicago
And still feels he’s a “Franchise” QB needs to purchase a ticket on the “Crazy” Train back to Santa Claus Indiana where it’s Christmas every stinking day!!!!! Blah! He just doesnt get it…never has, never will. I praise McD for getting him the hell out!
MSM-NFL.com; The article references the team of Woodson/Dukes. If you want a change of pace, listen to Mike Lombardi/Adam Schefter. Jamie Dukes is an overweight, bitter, washed up idiot who NFL Network hired to be the front gunning buffoon! He plays it well. Woodson knows how to play football, but he just doesnt understand how to analyze or breakdown players/coaches. He’s lacks insight on strategy and has no ability to see the bigger picture. They’re both idiots…why we spend time here talking about them is to give them more credit than they deserve.
"Attitude reflects Leadership" Hogblog...aka KSM
you may be right....
but it is many of the same people that are saying we need to give Orton more than one year in the system to see if he can do it……you can’t have a different standard for Cutler, I’ll judge Cutler after this year, but I think he has a much better year than last. I hope the same of Orton, but if it is dump off after dump off, I’ll throw up.
"Pain don't hurt" - Swayze (Road House) -- We miss you man!
Im gonna agree with bonair here...
Last year Cutler had a crappy Defense…again… and a horrible OC. They have kicked butt in FA and brought in a very good Offensive Coordinator.
This year is do or die for the kid. Either he takes the Bears deep into the playoffs or he truly is the spoiled child that he is depicted as here.
As constructed today, Chicago should get to the NFC Championship. Anything else is a disappointment.
Disagree also
Cutler is a young guy. he is still developing. The question with him IMO is does he listen. Yet he deserves the time to get things straightened out.
... if you have a belief, you will tend to find things that support it. But if you have a prejudice, you’ll move heaven and earth to maintain it. BroncoBear
NFLN is becoming the WWE/TNA of football sports intertainment!
This is the way it is intended to be…I have to remind my wife that WWE isn’t real even when theres blood treaming down a guys forehead…Come on folks, it’s intertainment to argument, best danged sports show on earth…LMAO…I just laugh at them when they are funny and listen to them when they give me news, other than that it doesn’t mmean jack crap! Just think to your self how many times they have been wrong in the past…Then you’ll finally realize it doesn’t matter.
You are so late to this party.
MHR had a Jamie Dukes bashing session for several months last offseason.
BTW: regardless of Marshall’s attitude or our opinions of his off the field problems. On game day, Brandon is EASILY far and away our best play maker. That statement is SO TRUE I don’t know where to begin.
As far as Dukes and Woodson, they don’t even seem to know the players names (Scheffler or our new D coordinator). Who cares what they think?
In my opinion.
I know
I wish I would have joined this website last year. I don’t know how it came across, but I absolutely believe BMarsh is our best play maker. I believe it without a doubt. My point was that we aren’t trying to get rid of our best playmaker. My point was that we are trying to get rid of a giant unpredictable headache.
On Gamedays BMarsh is easily our best play maker.
For all Gamedays that come before he reaches 100 catches & 1,000 yards that is. After that, he has no interest in making any plays for our team.
If our strategy to become a GREAT football team and a dynasty for years to come is for every player to put the team above themselves; to devote themselves entirely to the team in order to collectively equal much more than a sum of our individual parts, then players who refuse to truely place the team above themselves (BMarsh, Scheff, Cutler, etc) are only holding us back from acheiving our goal. Our goal of winning multiple SB’s.
I love BMarsh’s performance. I will miss that performance if he’s no longer wearing Orange & Blue. But if it indeed comes to that, it will because Brandon never “got” it. It will be because Brandon’s refusal to put himself beneath the team for the good of the team (and in turn himself) forced us to move on without him. In short, if BMarsh is traded or we do not match an offer sheet for his services, I place the blame for that squarely on BMarsh. Either way this is a lesson that Brandon will have to learn (with the Broncos or some other team) if he truely wants to be a champion. His actions so far seem to suggest he only cares about his $, not about his team and not about Championships.
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