The next Ray Lewis??
Unbelievable?? How is no one talking about this guy. He'll definitely be around in the 2nd round.....what a monster!!
Jamar Chaney out of Mississippi St.
Here is a site to see how he tested out for NFL scouts:
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/TSX/2010_ILB
Here is to see his tape:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LMZmeY-kgo&feature=related
I'd love to hear some comments on this guy, but he looks like a beast to me. Against the run you have to watch the highlight at the 2:00 mark. He stops a blocker and runner by himself at the 1yd line. Unbelievable! He goes up against Ciron Black from LSU a couple times too. Bottom line.....he's way to quick, but also strong enough to get leverage and hold up if needed. I'm sure someone has talked about him, but this dude is a monster. Sorry if I missed those posts from before.
The real reason he is off the radar screen though was a broken leg in 08. So this is his first year back.....looks good to me!
Check it out....hope to hear some feedback.
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Ravens fan here
Just wrong to mention Ray’s name with anyone. He is the next Jamar Chaney and that is it.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
Quite right
Hopefully Chaney won’t murder anyone.
A man does what he has to do, and sometimes it’s not what I believe he should do. There’s no reason to use up energy hating him for it. Shoot him if you have to, but don’t hate him.
Louis L’Amour
by bradley on Mar 21, 2010 12:13 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
"Hopefully it happens again"
This is what Mr MaLoR said on the Steelers blog about Ben Roethlisberger and his problems. So who’s the cold one?
A man does what he has to do, and sometimes it’s not what I believe he should do. There’s no reason to use up energy hating him for it. Shoot him if you have to, but don’t hate him.
Louis L’Amour
to be fair
you’d say the same thing about Phyllis if he gave you the opportunity…
Because Montana has no professional sports, I gotta support the land of my birth.
Socrates was once executed for 'trolling'.
^Needs explaining: don't call someone asking uncomfortable, slightly antagonistic questions trolls. In all odds they probably just want to learn. It's real easy to differentiate a 'Socratic' post from a trolling one (unless you're a resident of WCG).
^Needs further explaining: I have yet to post anything on WCG, don't worry, I'm not trying to rationalize anything I've done. I've just lurked over there and man, they are the model of post-peloponnesian war Athens.
agree
maLor P Willis is the closeing thing to R Lewis
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Until Willis leads the Niners, while going nine straight regular season games without an offensive touchdown, to win the Super Bowl single-handedly with their defense, I cannot put him in the same category as Ray Lewis.
Did Ray play D all by himself that year?
- Nick
"Know the enemy, know yourself, and victory is never in doubt, not in a hundred battles."
- Sun Tzu
by ncm42 on Mar 21, 2010 6:22 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm just saying
Ray had some pretty good talent around him that year. You can’t chalk all that success up to Ray. I get what you’re saying about ‘leadership,’ but I just think inferring his leadership as being that big a role in the D’s success is overstating things and, frankly, minimizing what the players around Ray brought to the table.
- Nick
"Know the enemy, know yourself, and victory is never in doubt, not in a hundred battles."
- Sun Tzu
king of the serengeti
you ever here him talk about that…..love it! Dude is a monster, on the field…..talk bs all ya want about him killin in my opinion. Anyone ever had a best friend cut into pieces?? crazy life, and that guy was obviously mixing in the wrong crowd
by BideshiBronco on Mar 21, 2010 9:09 PM MDT up reply actions
Why is it wrong to mention Ray's name in any form? (other than slanderous)
I mean come on, EVERYONE FOR YEARSS!! called x,y,and z QB’s the next Elway….and come on we all know historically which of the two deserves more praise :-P. But seriously this should not be an insult it should be a compliment
"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
- Thomas Alva Edison
"Success is not a place at which one arrives, but rather... the spirit with which one undertakes and continues the journey."
- Alex Noble
And people are concerned.about Brandon Marshall?
Hey, what about Ray Lewis’s history, and looked how he turned out? So there is hope for Bmarsh to rehabilitate…absolutely and completely!
Oh Jamar Cheny is a possibility for sure and should be there in 4-5th rnd, but I like Micah Johnson much more! IMHO…. Also Norwood from South Carolina….SEC is a pro making machine! Have I mentioned Brandon Spikes and Rolando McClain??? It’s just endless!
"Attitude reflects Leadership" Hogblog...aka KSM
yea if ray can still be a HoFer after murdering 2 people
Big Ben can definitely still be a HoFer after raping 2 people….
by steel.curtain.number2 on Mar 21, 2010 1:00 PM MDT reply actions
Until you show me evidence that Ray murdered two people
You are a freaking idiot.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
Right.
He just admitted to getting the murderers out of the area, while not summoning any kind of medical attention for two people who lay dying in the street. Oh, and to “Obstruction of Justice.” No big deal!
Don’t come on MHR and call names. It’s not acceptable around here. If you have a point to make, can you do it without calling someone “freaking idiot”?
- Nick
"Know the enemy, know yourself, and victory is never in doubt, not in a hundred battles."
- Sun Tzu
by ncm42 on Mar 21, 2010 6:24 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
First, that guy Malor is talking to is a Steelers fan, so it’s not like he’s insulting your regulars. You don’t understand the Steelers-Ravens rivalry. It seems like we can never escape Steelers fans.
Second, whenever you insult our best and most beloved players, you better believe that Baltimore fans are going to defend them.
Third, it’s not like your being an objective saint. Your comments have been hostile too, so stop acting like your enforcing the code of conduct.
How have I been hostile?
And I didn’t say don’t be hostile, I said we have a rule against personal insults and name-calling on this site. You’ve been on here before, and usually a valuable contributor. Malor calling anyone “idiot” during a discussion on here is unacceptable.
And I did not insult Lewis. I stated the facts. I don’t care either way about him, so I have no reason to insult him.
- Nick
"Know the enemy, know yourself, and victory is never in doubt, not in a hundred battles."
- Sun Tzu
honestly
After watching the highlights u showed, i am not as impressed as u r. A lot of his tackles were him holding up a guy and allowing someone else to bring him down. Yes I see he’s fast and good at getting off blocks, but his tackling ability is sub par. His few solo tackles he had he did a nice job getting to the play, either by displaying his agility and speed or block shedding ability, but he would allow the guy to get too many yards after contact.
All in all if we havent selected an ILB by the 4-5th rounds, which I dont see us doing, we should jump all over this guy. I can see this athletisicm translating well to ST’s as well. But ur analysis of the next Ray Ray and getting him in the 2nd I believe are very far off
At Walterfootball.com they have him 2nd behind McClain now.
I can’t explain how he has elevated himself this high and this quick and since I haven’t even looked at him has me curious to find out.
thx
good point, I don’t know if I saw it that way, but it was probably all good highlights. I was actually impressed with the tackling you’re talking about. He was catching guys at full speed and stopping them dead in their tracks……that takes tremendous power and an athlete that is confident in his quickness and strenght…..essentially he is waiting on them to come to him……that was a talent for me……fair assessment though. Thx for watching!
by BideshiBronco on Mar 21, 2010 8:49 PM MDT up reply actions
How this guy has slipped throught he cracks of the msm is interesting.
At Walter there are no issue problems mentioned other than he had a leg injury that kept him out for a while.
a lot of draft sites
aren’t really up to date until April. It isn’t that players have done something to move up boards, it is that reports are finally in on the player and they need to slot them accordingly. You will see this with Cooney’s NFLDraftScout a lot. They are so thorough in ranking underclassmen, that those rankings (the analysis specifically) get mistaken for the up to date rankings.
They adjust their bigboard by feel, but you’ll start seeing guys, especially guys who weren’t on the radar and were only scouted in the past few months, really shooting up and down draft boards.
That said, the fan market for draft info is way different than the NFL market….. Around this time, fans and analysts alike are often simply looking for something new, but they still want that something to really be special. But their are only so many top 100 players in a draft. For NFL teams, now is the time to get that one on one insight into top players, and to be utterly thorough in combing through the prospects. For NFL teams, “something new” at this time of year usually means some unheralded CFA who they think they will need to be ready to sign as soon as the draft is over….
There's a big hard sun, beating on the big people, in the big hard world.
formerly Styg-like
by Jeremy Bolander on Mar 21, 2010 2:57 PM MDT up reply actions
thx
the scouts obviously know things about these guys (access to all the tape, personal history, etc.) for instance, what happened that he left UGA his frosh year?? However, this seems a guy that is just getting recognized b/c of his combine stuff and his tape is that good. Of course, there is a good bit of it too.
This tape is better than the stuff I have seen of both witherspoon and mcclain. Chaney is from a small TV/fan market (another potential factor) and his team has struggled. I agree that most of this stuff will start catching up. I am confident he will never make it past the 3rd round. I’d take him in the 2nd…..later than our 45, but he is a much smaller reach than R. Quinn was last year, for sure
by BideshiBronco on Mar 21, 2010 8:57 PM MDT up reply actions
DraftDog had him going in the 6th? I guess DraftDog isn't keeping up with the news!
03/14/2010 – TOP RATED NFL DRAFT SCOUT INSIDE LINEBACKERS: Jamar Chaney, Mississippi State, 6-1, 242, 4: He started at inside and outside linebacker in college and was just beginning to show outstanding pro potential when his progress was interrupted in 2008 by a broken leg. He returned in 2009 to lead the team with 90 tackles, including 4?? for a loss, two sacks, two interceptions and two forced fumbles. After making the Senior Bowl with a late invitation, Chaney impressed scouts in practice and was named defensive MVP in the game after collecting eight tackles and a fumble recovery. – Frank Cooney, The Sports Xchange, NFLDraftScout.com/CBS Sports/USA TODAY
MVP of the Senior Bowl.
Both Chaney and Butler are moving up the board quickly
nfldraftscout.com has him listed as the #5 IBL, with Butler at 4. Here’s their take on Chaney:
Read & React: Moderate reading his keys and diagnosing what’s coming at him. Marginal vision to avoid the trash and beat the running back to the edge. Quick to accelerate to the ball after recognizing the play. Disciplined defender who maintains gap control and trusts teammates.
Run defense: Looks smaller on film than his program-listed size. Can be engulfed by blockers and doesn’t have the upper-body strength or punch to disengage quickly. Marginal lateral quickness to avoid blocks.
Pass defense: Former weak-side linebacker with the athleticism and understanding of pass defense to remain on the field in passing situations. Good depth in coverage.
Tackling: Effective drag-down tackler. Breaks down well in space against smaller, shiftier athletes. Good hustle in pursuit but too often makes plays well downfield. Reliable open-field tackler, but isn’t a punisher (one forced fumble in 27 career starts).
Pass Rush/Blitz: Only occasionally used as a pass rusher as an inside linebacker and is exclusively a stand-up pass rusher. Lacks a versatile repertoire of pass-rush moves and needs an open lane to close effectively.
Intangibles: Productive special teams defender. Broken lower right leg suffered in 2008 will require further medical evaluation at the Scouting Combine.
There’s good and bad here, s you’d expect. This is Butler’s commentary from the same source, just for comparison
Butler didn’t begin to make a name for himself on a national level until his senior campaign.
Moved back to inside linebacker under new head coach Steve Sarkisian and former USC defensive coordinator Nick Holt — Butler split time inside and outside as a junior — he enjoyed a breakout season in 2009, finishing third in the Pac-10 in total tackles (94) and second in tackles for loss (15.5) on his way to earning second-team all-conference honors.
Though not initially among those invited to the Combine, Butler’s strong showing during the week of practice at the Senior Bowl forced scouts to make him one of 19 seniors added late.
Butler is aggressive in taking on blocks, but has to pick a side of the oncoming offensive lineman and slide off, rather than facing him fully. His narrow build might make it difficult for him to add the size and strength necessary to handle the bigger, stronger guards in the NFL. His relentlessness and good open-field tackling skills will help him rack up tackles, but too many may come yards downfield. Considering his frame and relative comfort in coverage, some teams will view Butler as an outside linebacker prospect.
Read & React:Leans forward pre-snap, almost falling forward in anticipation of the run on early downs. Takes a tentative step forward at the snap and explodes out of his stance toward the line of scrimmage. At his best defending the stretch play, as he has the burst to break through the line when he sees a gap to make the tackle for loss. A bit over-aggressive stretching plays out wide. Can get ahead of himself and leave cut-back angles for the quick back to exploit. His false-step toward the line leaves him vulnerable to quick passes, but he’s athletic enough to re-direct quickly.
Run defense: Reacts aggressively to the run. Quick to the hole and has the burst upfield to take advantage of gaps and close for impressive tackles for loss on outside runs. Takes on the fullback with a violent pop and uses strong hands to disengage quickly on the isolation. Isn’t as effective against offensive linemen, as he has to pick a side as they arrive. Athletic enough to slip off as the back comes by to latch on for the drag-down tackle, but is too often engulfed by the blocker when the runner correctly reads the direction of the block. Good speed to the sideline. Is too fast, at times, coming in a bit out of control and leaving cutback lanes. Strong pursuit laterally and downfield. A reliable open-field tackler.
Pass defense: Takes a false step at the snap, but has good balance and quick feet to change directions and recover for quick passes. Good route-recognition and overall athleticism for an inside linebacker. Focuses on his assignment, rather than the quarterback and is athletic enough to react and maintain good coverage. Often forced the quarterback to look elsewhere due to his sticky coverage. Has a burst to close when the ball is thrown.
Tackling: Not an explosive hitter, but is a generally an efficient wrap-up tackler that plays with good balance in the open field to make the secure stop. Can be a bit out of control when he crashes the line at full speed and is forced to lunge at the ballcarrier. Good strength for the grab on and drag-down tackle as he’s fighting off blocks. Good hustle in pursuit.
Pass Rush/Blitz: Shows good straight-line speed to close when he has an open lane. Good lateral agility and balance to avoid blocks. Dips his shoulder to get under the reach of the guard. Attacks the running back with a full head of steam and has enough strength and use of leverage to drive him into the pocket as a bull-rusher, but his overall lack of size and strength is exposed when taking on linemen, who typically are able to simply absorb his initial hit and engulf him. Doesn’t show much in terms of pass rush technique. Good effort.
Intangibles: Voted a team captain in 2009. Earned Most Improved Defender honors in 2008 while switching between inside and outside linebacker due to injuries to teammates. Has a knack for making big plays in big games. Named national defensive player of the week by Walter Camp Foundation the Huskies’ 16-13 win over No. 3 USC, when he had 12 tackles, two tackles for loss, a forced fumble and an interception. Posted six tackles, a TFL and a sack against Cal; 3 tackles, including a TFL and an interception in the overtime loss to Notre Dame.
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