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Denver Broncos Live Mock Recap and Quick Analysis




Hey folks, just wanted to get out a heads up of what went down on Sunday with EJ's second 2010 Live Interactive mock draft. 

First of all, for those of you who didn't catch the open thread it was a TON of fun.  EJ did a great job of orchestrating it, and this run was nearly four hours shorter than the first run for three rounds of mock drafting.  People came prepared, eager, and ready to draft.

I must say, a quick jog down memory lane reminded me that the Kansas City Chiefs, Baltimore Ravens, and Arizona Cardinals had very, very good drafts.  The Chiefs in particular, run by our own elvisalex, came away with a haul that included Rolando McClain, Golden Tate, Terrence Cody, Jared Veldheer, and Matt Tennant if I remember correctly.  Much kudos to elvisalex for orchestrating a very sound draft for Kansas City.  His general manager skills were in full form on Sunday!

Not that I feel like rubbing it in the faces of the other 31 reps, but I don't think the Broncos ended up with such a raw deal either.  In fact, I think many of you will enjoy greatly the draft I mocked for us. 

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I struck a pre-draft trade with our own Skotty almost right after we became the general managers of our teams (Broncos and Patriots, respectively).  Skotty was looking to move up in the first round, and he had the ammunition (three second round picks) to do so.  We agreed upon a trade that sent the 11th overall pick to New England in exchange for picks 22, 47, and a sixth rounder.  This trade checked out on Walter Football's updated trade value chart.

After failing to move one of my two second round picks for two third round picks (from the Steelers), I had a draft slate that included the following picks:

1.  Pick #22

2.  Pick #45, 47

3.  Pick #80

With our first round selection, I was absolutely torn.  Dez Bryant had fallen all the way to pick #22, and let me tell you I had a tough time when deciding between he and Florida center Maurkice Pouncey.  Some folks on the thread were calling for Sean Weatherspoon, and some for others. 

It literally came down to a coin flip.  Bryant is rated 11th on CBS Sports' big board, and Pouncey is all the way down at 32nd.  Conventional logic says you should go with the sexy value pick, but I reached for need, and I think it will pay huge dividends.

With the 22nd pick in the first round, the Denver Broncos selected MAURKICE POUNCEY, C, FLORIDA

The general consensus was positive.  Pouncey is an instinctive interior lineman who has the potential to start in this league for a decade, and be a consistent Pro Bowl performer.  He is far and away the best center prospect in this draft, and he fits the biggest area of need for the Broncos.  Who knew?

I felt I had set myself up very nicely for the second round.  I had taken care of our biggest need, and quickly glancing over the roster and my projected depth chart, I saw one or two more glaring areas of need, and a bounty of prospects still on the board from which to choose.

With two picks up-coming in the second round, my top target was Notre Dame receiver Golden Tate, who was my #2 target in round one at pick #22.  Tate fits our offense to a "T", but sadly he was gone to the Kansas City Chiefs as I mentioned earlier.  It turned out to be a blessing in disguise as I wound up adding who I believe to be the best true nose tackle prospect in this draft.

With the 45th pick in the second round, the Denver Broncos selected CAM THOMAS, DT, NORTH CAROLINA

My first two picks stood at 6'5" and 6'4" respectively, and weigh in at 306 and 331.  That's what I call adding beef to both sides of the line.  I felt the additions of Pouncey and Thomas, along with Seth Olsen's addition to the offensive line had really set me up nicely. 

After I selected Thomas and failing to trade one of my extra second round picks for additional third rounders, I knew I was in a position to take the best player available on my draft board.  Initially, I was hoping for a receiver like Golden Tate or Demaryius Thomas to fall to me, but as the live mock indicated and as I anticipated, that notion was unrealistic. 

Instead, the best player available on my board was Cal running back Jahvid Best.  I saw one full game of Best's in 2009, and it was against the Minnesota Golden Gophers.  Best had three touchdowns in the first half, and I knew immediately that there was something special about this kid. 

One scouting report I read said (paraphrase) that some of Best's moves are those that can only be fathomed in a video game.  He is an electrifying playmaker who adds another dimension to our offense.  He is a great receiver out of the backfield and an excellent return man.  I have mocked Jahvid to the Broncos once before, but at this point in the draft I felt the value was just too high to pass on. 

With the 47th pick in the second round, the Denver Broncos selected JAHVID BEST, RB, CALIFORNIA

With my selections up to this point, I realized that the two areas I wanted to address next were inside linebacker and wide receiver, not necessarily in any particular order though there was a specific player I was targeting at the 80th pick (I got him, by the way). 

As we were approaching the 80th pick, I noticed that Dexter McCluster was taking a miniature free fall.  Since I had already selected Jahvid Best, I decided it was in my best interests to keep my temptation to myself and stick with my gameplan.  Like Dez Bryant in round one, it was very, very hard to pass on Dexter with my third round choice. 

With the release of Andra Davis, I believe inside linebacker will be addressed within the first four rounds of our draft, and there is one prospect I have my eye on in particular as a great value. 

I picked up a Sporting News NFL Draft preview magazine, and this player was ranked as their top inside linebacker.  He is one of Tim Lynch's favorite prospects.  He is compared to Jerod Mayo of the New England Patriots.  He is Washington linebacker Donald Butler.

Butler is ranked 101st overall by CBS Sports, but his value is fast on the rise and he likely will not fall out of the third round.  I have mocked him as high as the second round, and Sporting News believes him to be not only the best inside linebacker but a first round pick. 

Butler is the best inside linebacker in this draft in terms of his ability to not only stop the run (15.5 TFL in 2009) but his potential against the pass.  He has excellent range and projects as a 4-3 outside linebacker or a 3-4 inside linebacker.  I could not resist the thought of adding him into the fray with D.J. Williams, Elvis Dumervil, and Robert Ayers.

With the 80th pick in the third round, the Denver Broncos selected DONALD BUTLER, ILB, WASHINGTON

At this point, many of the mock drafters were pleading for E.J. to allow a fourth round to be added.  Probably wisely, EJ politely declined and the draft ended after three rounds. 

I feel I came away with a massive haul.  I acheived goal number one by nabbing Pouncey, who was my top target heading into the draft.  In the second round, my top targets were Cam Thomas, BPA, and Donald Butler.  I was really hoping for Golden Tate to slip to me, but that was out of the question. 

Thomas was an easy selection, and I was elated to add Best with the other pick.  Butler is currently one of my favorite prospects in the entire draft, and I picked him up at pick #80. 

Had the draft carried on, my top target in the fourth round based on the players still available would have been Texas wide receiver Jordan Shipley or Ohio speedster Taylor Price.  I was shocked to see both of those guys out of the third round, and likely I would have ended up taking Jordan Shipley with my fourth round selection, which would have been around 114th overall. 

In the sixth and seventh rounds, I would have had three picks and would have targeted Adrian Tracy, a pass rushing defensive end/outside linebacker hybrid from William and Mary, an offensive lineman, perhaps Dace Richardson of Iowa, and Trindon Holliday. 

Draft Recap

1.  Maurkice Pouncey, C, Florida

2.  Cam Thomas, DT, North Carolina

3.  Jahvid Best, RB, Cal

4.  Donald Butler, ILB

**5.  Jordan Shipley, WR, Texas

This is a Fan-Created Comment on MileHighReport.com. The opinion here is not necessarily shared by the editorial staff of MHR

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This would be a sweet draft.

Every pick would substantially add to our team.

by swg777 on Mar 21, 2010 11:07 PM MDT reply actions  

Thanks swg777

I think so too!

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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 22, 2010 7:01 AM MDT up reply actions  

Great draft - hard to complain

Do you feel, given the lack of depth (and starting quality) at the moment that you perhaps went a bit light at OL?

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by orange&blue_aussie on Mar 21, 2010 11:15 PM MDT reply actions  

I questioned this as well, it seems we only have 3 guards on the roster

Ducasse or Lee in the 2nd and John Jerry or Butler in the 3rd could have been another route. The Scheffler trade could take care of this as well. Great work, Sayre reminds me of your 17th mock

by frontier on Mar 21, 2010 11:52 PM MDT up reply actions  

Not really

I would look to add another guard or tackle later on, but assuming Seth Olsen and Pouncey will be starters, I think using our top three rounds of picks elsewhere was fine in this instance. I think adding a guard in the third would be a bit superfluous, but maybe we will look to do so in the real draft

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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 22, 2010 7:05 AM MDT up reply actions  

Depends on the faith in Olsen I suppose.

But given there’s no guarantees with him (nor the draftees for that matter), wouldn’t you think that one of the second round guard’s would add more to the overall team that Best, who while talented, would be at best the 3rd string RB and possibly 4th?

I think what you’ve done then is solidified your interior for years given that Kuper is UFA next year (i think?!).

"Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind- bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space."

"It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes" Douglas Adams

by orange&blue_aussie on Mar 22, 2010 8:01 AM MDT up reply actions  

Awesome!

This is a really unexpected treat, Sayre! I retrospective look into the mind of our resident mock draft expert during a live mock is interesting. All in all, I think you did the Broncos proud and sharing this with the community is good stuff.

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by ejruiz on Mar 21, 2010 11:38 PM MDT reply actions   1 recs

Re-Draft.

I really liked your haul, but this is what I would have gone for knowing all that I know now…

22) Dez Bryant, WR, OSU: definitely worth the risk at #22, I still think he’s an elite prospect – underrated even – and real posibility for us at #11.
45) Cam Thomas, DT, UNC: I agree that he could well be the top NT prospect in this draft and that’s definitely a position of long-term need for us.
47) Matt Tennant, C, BC: This may be a reach, but the need is that dire and I can cash in the excess value of my first pick to offset to cost!
80) John Jerry, G, Ole Miss: Yet another man-mountain to set along the trenches, further addressing our needs with quality prospects at good value.

Of course, hindsight is always 20/20 and this is all highly subjective stuff, but it’s all in good fun anyway!

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by ejruiz on Mar 21, 2010 11:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

22. Like I said, I had a really hard time. Dez would be VERY hard to pass on in that slot. I had a plan for the rest of the draft though, and I think I followed it fairly well.

45. We agree

47. Tennant would be nice if we had an additional 2nd rounder, I agree. Also if we decided not to go Pouncey. A nice selection.

80. I’ve been thinking more and more about Jerry. Is he projecting only as an injury replacement, or is he taking over Seth Olsen’s role as G of the future?

A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.

by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 22, 2010 7:07 AM MDT up reply actions  

Or possibly kuper’s role as guard of the future ???

by rg2247 on Mar 22, 2010 7:48 AM MDT up reply actions  

Thanks EJ!

Glad I was able to represent us!

A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.

by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 22, 2010 7:05 AM MDT up reply actions  

Ugh, I don't see the Patriots trading up like that.

The talent between picks 10 and 32 are just too similar for it to be worth trading up. Unless the Pats were trading into the top 5, I don’t see them trading up.

by Richard Hill on Mar 22, 2010 1:36 AM MDT reply actions  

Yeah I agree...

But perhaps if whoever is trading down, gives up some trade value so it doesn’t entirely adhere to the value chart, there may be a taker or two? Perhaps give up a fourth, or swap thirds or something? I dunno.

"Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind- bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space."

"It is a mistake to think you can solve any major problems just with potatoes" Douglas Adams

by orange&blue_aussie on Mar 22, 2010 1:40 AM MDT up reply actions  

Depends

They got what many feel to be a top five talent in Jason Pierre Paul. Also, there is a huge talent discrepancy between the top ten and the rest of the draft. Actually, it probably stretches to the top 12.

A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.

by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 22, 2010 7:08 AM MDT up reply actions  

Very few regard JPP as a top 5 talent...

…and his bust potential is the highest of anyone except, maybe, Bruce Campbell.

by Richard Hill on Mar 22, 2010 7:30 AM MDT up reply actions  

Nobody can deny JPP as a top five talent

but he does have bust radar going wild. He has top five pass rushing skills, and he is probably no worse than a top 12 prospect by any legitimate media outlet.

A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.

by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 22, 2010 7:40 AM MDT up reply actions  

Take that back

I personally don’t view him as a top 10 prospect, so in order to consider myself legitimate, I have to rescind that comment lol

A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.

by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 22, 2010 7:41 AM MDT up reply actions  

Haha yeah.

He has top 5 POTENTIAL (and I would even argue against that- I’d place Okung, McCoy, Suh, Haden, Berry, Bradford, Clausen and a few others ahead of him in potential). In fact, I wouldn’t even put him as the #1 at his position- that goes to Derrick Morgan. My guess is JPP will be Vernon Gholston 2.0.

by Richard Hill on Mar 22, 2010 11:19 AM MDT up reply actions  

I'm with you there

I’m not big on taking hybrids high in the draft whatsoever. I have not seen a TON of JPP admittedly, but he has some skill. We’ll see if it translates.

A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.

by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 22, 2010 3:18 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think the Pats could do trade like this if a player

they feel they need isn’t going to drop to them at 22. Jason Pierre Paul isn’t that guy, the Pats won’t reach to take him. Paul reminds me of Jarvis Moss, with bust written all over him. Wasn’t 2009 his only standout year?

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by bchiper on Mar 22, 2010 8:45 AM MDT up reply actions  

Pouncey vs. Bryant

I’d take Pouncey 80% of the time. He fills our biggest need with the best prospect in the draft at his position, and Dez Bryant is too big of a risk. He might turn out just fine, but it’s all about the odds with draft picks. Good draft. I like all your picks, but I’m just still not sure we’ll be taking a Nose Tackle with an early round pick. I guess BPA could dictate that, but in the end, it comes down to the coaching staff’s evaluation of the existing talent. I need to think some more about this.

by BroncosBassist on Mar 22, 2010 5:48 AM MDT reply actions  

Depends how many picks you have

The way it was set up, I could easily have taken Dez and gotten a C prospect like Tennant or JD Walton, but I chose Pouncey. McX would have a hard time with that decision. I was torn!

A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.

by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 22, 2010 7:09 AM MDT up reply actions  

Pretty good job Sayre

I love the Pouncey pick, but not thrilled with Cam Thomas and Best. Was T Cody or R Saffold available at that second round pick?

Also, isn’t Jahvid Best a similar style/size to Moreno? Seems like a better compliment to Moreno would be Dwyer/Gerhart.

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by Idaho Nate on Mar 22, 2010 11:04 AM MDT reply actions  

Thanks Nate

T Cody was gone, though he wasn’t on my radar until round three. Cam Thomas seems to have a much better head on his shoulders. I was not looking at OT’s, so Saffold was not an option either.

Jahvid is very different from Moreno. I compared him the lightning to Moreno’s thunder. Moreno is a thumper, and Best is an outside speedster who can also help us in the return game. Dwyer fell to the third, which was almost shocking, and Gerhart went to the 49ers I believe. I wouldn’t mind adding either, but I think Best would be a nice piece to our offensive puzzle

A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.

by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 22, 2010 3:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

I believe this scenario has floated around McD/X mind more than once this offseason.

If they could pull this off it would solidifiy several different positions with good value. Thanks Sayre and keep up the good work.

by bfree2bronc on Mar 22, 2010 2:12 PM MDT reply actions  

NE would have been better off

not trading up. So would have I, the Buffalo rep. To be worthwhile, the player a team trades up for has to be elite. I thought I was trading up to get Clausen. Heads and shoulders above Colt McCoy, IMO. I still got Okung instead of another OT at #9. Was this worth giving up my 3rd round pick for? I don’t think it was.

by Digger24 on Mar 22, 2010 2:46 PM MDT reply actions  

I disagree

I thought the Buffalo/Kansas City trade made TONS of sense. Buffalo desperately needs a LT to replace Jason Peters, and I don’t think it’s any secret the Chiefs are targeting McClain in round one.

A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.

by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 22, 2010 3:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

I could've had

TWilliams OT, still had McCoy and kept my 3rd round pick.

by Digger24 on Mar 22, 2010 5:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

TWilliams is a HUGE drop off in talent from Okung

It’s like Ryan Clady and Jeff Otah huge.

A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.

by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 22, 2010 5:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

OK

Well thanks for the pep talk. Maybe I did alright after all.

by Digger24 on Mar 22, 2010 5:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

Thanks Sayre!

For what it’s worth, I actually liked Jahvid pick. And I def would have gone with Pouncey there, as you did. The best value, according to talent, was Dez Bryant. But I’m not sure how much, if any, that really represents how teams will look at him. In a real draft, with real $$$, real contract negotiations, and even team spirit on the line – I think you made the right call, hands down.

If you had taken him at 22, would he have really signed for 22’s money? I doubt it. It could have been a holdout. I think this makes it more realistic.

Pouncey was a need. It was probably the reason you traded back in the first place.

Good luck with the Redskins Mr. Mike! I'll be watching and cheering for a non-Bronco team for the first time in my life. Well, except when they play the Broncos!

by Alex on Mar 22, 2010 7:39 PM MDT reply actions  

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