Free Agent Profile: Center Kevin Mawae
by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 22, 2010 11:29 AM MDT
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It is finally being reported that the Denver Broncos and center Kevin Mawae have mutual interest, though talks between the two sides are not even in the infancy stage in terms of talking contract as far as we know. Jason La Canfora first reported it today, and ESPN's Adam Schefter reiterated that Mawae and the Broncos are a "natural match".
The Broncos, who recently released Casey Wiegmann, are in the market for a starting center this year. The only true center on the roster is Dustin Fry, who was signed to a futures contract and has never started for an NFL team.
It is assumed the Broncos will target a C/G early in the draft, as they feel Seth Olsen is capable of taking over one of the spots.
Josh McDaniels made it clear that the Broncos are looking to get bigger this offseason, which makes their preliminary interest in Kevin Mawae very intriguing. Mawae is 289 pounds, a mere four pounds heavier than Casey Wiegmann's listed playing weight.
Still, the Broncos' interest in Mawae is no shocker, as they are most definitely in the market for a starting center right now, and this seven time Pro Bowler could come at a very cheap price.
Mawae is a 16-year NFL veteran, and played his college ball at LSU. The first four years of his career were spent with the Seattle Seahawks, where he became the full time starter in his second season. After his time in Seattle, he moved on to the New York Jets, where he spent eight seasons as the full time starter and was named to six Pro Bowls.
After his eight seasons in New York, Mawae moved on to the Tennessee Titans where he has been the captain and anchor of one of the more successful running games in the NFL. In 2008, he had arguably his best season as a professional when he was named to his seventh Pro Bowl and was selected as a first team All-Pro selection.
In addition to his prowess on the field, Mawae has had a great influence off the field as the NFLPA President. He is a very well-respected player in this league, and is like a coach on the field.
In his career, Mawae has started more games than any other active offensive lineman. He has also blocked for 13 1,000 yard running backs, including Chris Johnson's spectacular 2,000 yard season in 2009.
The former second round pick is part of the Louisiana State University athletic Hall of Fame, and is one of the more decorated centers in NFL history.
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Why not bring him in?
Just another area we wouldn’t have to address in the draft which could open up a few strategies. If we do sign him, I think it would be safe to say that we won’t draft Pouncey, but maybe we’ll draft a center a little later in the draft???
This is my understanding of what is going on: Denver is trying to fill up its needs in free agency (ILB and OG/C). So if Denver takes care of these issues in FA, then we’ll probably be drafting an ILB later in the draft as well as a gaurd and center. Not to mention, Denver picked up a starting caliber NT in Jamaal Williams, so who do we draft in the first round if we sign Pouncey? I’m totally clueless right now.
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Hmm
That seems to make sense. Fill the immediate needs in Free Agency with guys who have a history of doing the job then you can draft for talent rather than need. That would even fit with what seems to be the “New England” style that McXanders is accused of following.
It also seems to fit in with what teams that are successful year in and year out do. Rather than chasing a big splash in Free Agency and drafting guys who “fill a role” in the draft. This would logically seem to be a better approach as it means that rookies who come in are at best depth for the team and at worst they are cut as not having what we need.
But it does make it hard to figure out who we are going to draft. I am starting to like the trade down and see what falls to us idea.
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Pick #11
I still feel like it is a strong possibility, if one of them falls a little, that we will take one of the versatile OT’s. I’m talking about Bulaga or Trent Williams. They are both considered multi-position players. McD preaches versatility.
I am not sure it really changes the draft strategy that much
McD and X are going to try and bring in high character leaders with talent. I feel they would be willing to grab Rolando McClain if they are not able to move down (depending on their feelings about his health). They would still be interested in Maurkice Pouncy if he was in the range after possible move down. Dez will probably be avoided due to potential character issues.
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we are probably going to draft a center, unless they feel very confident on eventually moving Seth Olsen to C. if they do, probably might draft one in the later rounds
by black_knight101 on Mar 22, 2010 12:15 PM MDT up reply actions
Different take
I don’t know if this makes any difference in the draft strategy. The operative word is competition, and the FO appears ready to make sure we have viable options at every position before the draft. I like this approach. Can you imagine going into this season knowing that Kevin Mawae is our backup center? Or that we are going into the season with one of the most successful centers of the last dozen years starting, with a guy like Maurkice Pouncey learning the ropes behind him for when or if he falters? It’s a pretty big difference from last year, that’s for sure. You need to fill those needs with someone — what if we miss out on our preferences in the draft?
I wonder which centers are on the big board for draft day, anyway? I really don’t think that this necessarily changes the stance on Pouncey, but I would like to see the draft board.
by BroncosBassist on Mar 22, 2010 12:39 PM MDT up reply actions
Agreed
At his age to play physically is a tough thing, we’d have to bring in another center later in the season to assist him.
My emptiness says it doesn't care.
he is almost 40, he is no better Casey Wiegmann
How old do you have to be before you start to consider the law of diminishing returns.
Kind of a sideways move should they sign him
He wanted to start in TEN which I don think he’d get the assurance to start here at his age and if he fits the bill. Makes me say meh but I could warm to the idea if has any gas left in the tank.
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by BroncoInExile on Mar 22, 2010 12:31 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
This is not a retorical question.
If two centers weigh about the same 289 pounds can one push a 3rd and short run better than the other guy. I am asking because why would Coach McDaniel let go of Weigman and consider signing Maewae at the same weight. it must be that Maewae is that much stronger. Is there a technique that a smaller center uses that is better than a bigger center. Thanks
Everyone has ability that isn't measured by weight or height
Here’s a simple answer: Kevin Mawae helped block for a 2000-yard rusher last year. We didn’t break that with all our backs. I’d say that if he keeps playing at the level he has, he’s definitely an upgrade over our atrocious interior line from 2009.
by BroncosBassist on Mar 22, 2010 12:43 PM MDT up reply actions
His stats show
That in 16 games in 2009, he had a total of 2 tackles (and nothing else). On the plus side: He has played in a vast majority of the games In his 16 years in the league. In that time, he has never had more than two tackles in a year (a grand total of 11 tackles through his career) so at least one can’t claim he is slowing down.
Ok, that's funny
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Remember he's an offensive center
tackles are good thing for him to have a lot of.
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are not a good thing I mean
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"Hope sees the invisible, feels the intangible and achieves the impossible."
So he matched season highs in 2009?
lol, good to know…
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by Jeremy Bolander on Mar 22, 2010 1:15 PM MDT up reply actions
Not than I'm in a rush to possibly show off my football ignorance, but
if Mawae plays center, which is part of the offense, and he makes a tackle, doesn’t that mean that there was a turnover and he tackled the guy on the other team who recovered the fumble or intercepted a pass?
I'm sold!
I also think MHR now needs a color coded comment rec system… green for serious and [insert favorite funny color here] for this!
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by Blackshirt4Broncos on Mar 22, 2010 3:34 PM MDT up reply actions
Charger baby blue?
That color just asks to be laughed at, anyways…..
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by Troy Hufford on Mar 22, 2010 3:40 PM MDT up reply actions
I'd go for an alternating gradient of...
Black, silver, powder blue, red, and gold… why laugh at one when we can laugh at them all!
(I think that covers the AFC West)
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by Blackshirt4Broncos on Mar 22, 2010 4:07 PM MDT up reply actions
I love it.
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by Troy Hufford on Mar 22, 2010 4:20 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm still wondering about this
The Titans wanted him to stay, but wouldn’t guarantee he’d be the starter. No other team has stepped up to sign Mawae as a starter. Why? Fisher is a pretty solid coach, so does he know something about Mawae that we don’t? Does he really have a season left in his tank? Just to many questions here for me to be content with the signing.
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"Hope sees the invisible, feels the intangible and achieves the impossible."
Could it be ...
Maybe it has to do with the politics. He is president of the NFLPA. Could this be a counter productive issue for the coach ? I guess what I am trying to say, is does this tend to work against the grain ? Just a thought, & I could be totally off base here. Just bringing up a possibility.
He finished the season in the Pro Bowl
If we can get him for 1 season as we develop a rookie for the year, this could really provide depth and leadership to the O-line. He may be pushing 40, but he is still playing well enough to make the Pro Bowl and that alone says he still got it. The weight issue doesn’t matter if he can get the job done. A good player is a good player. If we have the option to sign him I say do it.
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by AvalancheRescueDog on Mar 22, 2010 12:45 PM MDT reply actions
Sure wish I knew what the REAL plan is...
But I don’t, and won’t, until Draft Weekend is over…I guess that I am just going to have to trust that McDnX would not / will not sign Manwae unless he thinks that he will make the Team better for this year…Whatever they decide to do, I still believe that they will address the long term Center issue one way or another…Fry?…Olson?…Draft?…Or combination of all the options????
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On a short term basis, perhaps.
If the Broncos draft Pouncey or Tennant, Mawae could serve as a mentor, ease them in as a starter, and provide solid depth afterwards.
I wouldn’t want to count on a 40-year-old to anchor our line, no matter how many pro-bowls he went to when he was younger.
No Maewae in Denver
Mike Klis of the Denver Post just reported that Kevin Mawae and the Denver Broncos have not talked and there is no sign of interest at this point.
See below:
They have made contact
but Klis is reporting a source who says the likelihood of an actual deal is nil…
And to think I was starting to come around on this possible acquisition….
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by Jeremy Bolander on Mar 22, 2010 1:51 PM MDT up reply actions
Also...
Rex is our quarterback, We will not trade Jay Cutler, and I have no interest in coaching at Alabama. Not to mention I couldn’t give a flip about North Carolina, and I thought videotaping was within the rules. I must have misremembered.
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by RockyMountainThunder on Mar 22, 2010 1:54 PM MDT up reply actions
Anyone think Pouncey is a possibility at 11?
"No more my bad just make the play"-McJedi
by RockyMountainThunder on Mar 22, 2010 1:56 PM MDT reply actions
NO
I think Denver trades down in the first round and picks up an extra 2nd round pick, then takes either Lupati or Pouncey, depending on what pick they trade for, and maybe gets an extra 1st for Marshall so they get both Lupati and Pouncey, then pick up some good value in round 2. If nobody takes Marshall for a 1st rd pick, Denver sits Marshall down and tells him the facts of life (in the NFL), then negotiates a long term deal with him. The first round tender lets Marshall test the water and if its too good, good for him and Denver too, if its not, good for Denver and Marshall understands he’s getting the best deal form Denver. Also, I don’t think Mawae is a likely deal and like the fact that somebody finally said so. McDaniel would not let Casey go for someone older and the same weight, even if he did make the pro bowl. Mawae is not Dawkins.
I do... but I'm not in charge...
And nor am I fully versed in the talent drop off at center after Pouncey.
That’s my main reasoning – if there is a huge drop off in talent after Pouncey then I say we pounce on him! We need a center and if he will be the answer for the next 12 years I personally do not care what History says – I’d draft him even higher if this is the case.
If we can draft a center later without sacrificing “much” talent than I say we wait until later for our new center.
This of course does NOT take into account any trades – I’ll restrict my variables for the time being.
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by Blackshirt4Broncos on Mar 22, 2010 3:39 PM MDT up reply actions
No
Denver takes one of the top OTs (Okung, Bulaga, Davis, Williams) if they fall or Berry or Haden if they don’t. Then they make an OG or OC of one of the OTs on the roster with good backup in case of injury.
But probably not!
by ivanthenotsobad on Mar 22, 2010 4:36 PM MDT up reply actions
All I can say
Is where is McGeorge dang it! I hate to admit it, but I find myself scrolling down to see what he has to say and he has been mysteriously absent as of late.
Klis on Mawae report
" – While there are various ways to characterize "interest" an NFL source told me Maewae ain’t happening in Denver. Mawae, the president of the NFL players union, is not only 39 years old, his 289-pound frame is too light for the Broncos’ new power-type blocking system. Remember, the Broncos released Casey Wiegmann, who hasn’t missed a snap since the 2001 opener, because he was considered too small at 285 pounds. …"
Actually, it’s very difficult to know how this “NFL source” would know what McX intend to do, so Klis appears to only be telling us what someone associated with the NFL believes.
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replying to myself
I had some further comments — Mawae and Wiegmann are not the same player despite being similarly sized. I don’t expect Mawae will be a big improvement over Wiegmann but we need a veteran Center, even though it isn’t a particularly satisfactory answer to why we released Wiegmann. However, Wiegmann was never a pro-bowler until his first season here and Mawae has achieved that level many times. Curiously, Wiegmann’s only pro bowl appearance was the result of injury to the pro bowl starter, who was none other than Kevin Mawae.
Mawae was originally drafted in the 2nd round (#36) and soon worked his way into the Seahawks starting lineup whereas Wiegmann was a UDFA who took a couple years before finally earning a permanent job.
My impression is that Mawae is a preferable choice in our ‘newish’ more power oriented scheme. It’s hardly a glowing endorsement but the REAL point is to cover ourselves in case the draft doesn’t deliver a quality OC prospect (and even if it does), and there’s no guarantee even if we draft Pouncey. I suggested acquiring Mawae early on and still think he offers something. I’d strongly prefer seeing an OC draftee spend a year under Mawae before taking over, which strikes me as the ideal situation for a draftee (with no offense to Wiegmann).
Finally, we’ll see, I’m not counting my chickens yet. But I don’t see a lot of alternatives at this point.
no goats, no glory.
by Colinski on Mar 22, 2010 3:56 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I love clarifications!
Your solid reasoning is appreciated.
I have to admit I do not know enough about Mawae or Wiegmann to fully understand their similarities or differences (pros or cons of each).
Thanks for shedding some light on them. The mentoring role certainly appears to be a priority for McX and the approach has my support. Anytime I hear of a player being a coach on the field… I get excited!
My roots are in Denver, but my branches grew in Nebraska and my leaves fell in Lincoln.
by Blackshirt4Broncos on Mar 22, 2010 4:13 PM MDT up reply actions
Something else I realized about Mawae
With the report of interest, I figured I better start looking deeper into Mawae if I was going to support him in Orange and Blue, and I found a neat little correlation, but I still need to do some checking up on it:
We will be facing this year:
HOU
IND
TEN
JAX
STL
SEA
SF
ARI
SD
NYJ
What do all of these teams have in common? Mawae faced all of them last year (except for TEN of course, which is a moot point). Only KC, BAL and OAK aren’t in his very recent history, but they are in ours.
If we end up picking him up I plan on looking at the film of his performances against those defenses. Should be a pretty good clue of some of the things we can expect from the center position in 2010 if Mawae is a Bronco…
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by Jeremy Bolander on Mar 22, 2010 8:32 PM MDT up reply actions
I hear this all the time...
It is assumed the Broncos will target a C/G early in the draft, as they feel Seth Olsen is capable of taking over one of the spots.
Do you have a source that corroborates this, or do you mean to say that YOU feel Olsen is capable of taking over one of the spots?
This guy was a 4th round guard prospect last year and played in three total games. There is nothing – nothing at all – to suggest he is ready to take over the guard spot this year, let alone move to center. Unless, of course, you have additional information – something I may have missed.
So again, have you seen reports that say they feel he is ready, or did you mean you think he’s ready?
Good luck with the Redskins Mr. Mike! I'll be watching and cheering for a non-Bronco team for the first time in my life. Well, except when they play the Broncos!
no sources yet
I don’t think McX tell the media much — for some reason. We’re guessing here but it’s not a bad guess. Moreover, I wouldn’t discount Hochstein at OG. Olsen may gain time as the season progresses but he’s not alone at the position. And don’t forget about McChesney (my alum), whose size gives him a better chance this year than last.
Center seems to be the bigger question mark. Olsen talked about moving to OC shortly after being drafted, which may have been prompted by discussions with the coaching staff, but it’s a bigger jump for him right now.
no goats, no glory.
At least he is more ready than Wiegmann (or Hamilton?).
by ivanthenotsobad on Mar 22, 2010 4:40 PM MDT up reply actions
Matt Mc
MM isn’t such a bad prospect at OG. My argument on OC has been that we suffered a bigger problem last year because Hamilton and Wiegmann compound each other’s weakness. Adding some size alongside the OC could be surprisingly effective. And I wouldn’t even be shy about bringing Hamilton back if he’s not the only answer. Everyone likes magic bullet approaches to solving problems but incremental approaches are often very effective. Getting bigger overall and increasing our depth might help us more than people realize. And having Harris back will also help. Injuries were a big part of our problem last year even when they were at other positions.
no goats, no glory.
plus there is everything to like about Fry
Why he didn’t develop in STLouis is a mystery that isn’t easily solved. He talked openly about struggling with the playbook in his rookie camp, and that may have really held him back. Stlouis kept adding vets and draft picks at the position, and Fry was part of the 2008 attempt to clean house at the last minute. The Carolina and Cleveland stops on his tour of duty seem to be totally derivative of what happened to him in St Louis, so I don’t know how much weight we give them. He was out of Cleveland in another housecleaning, and Denver signed him the second his practice squad contract ran out.
I’ll say this about Fry the prospect: if we draft a center whose draft profile reads as well as Fry’s does, I’ll be happy.
There's a big hard sun, beating on the big people, in the big hard world.
formerly Styg-like
by Jeremy Bolander on Mar 22, 2010 8:43 PM MDT up reply actions
I think something is better than nothing
Even if just as a tutor or a backup, or even just as a sort of misinformation so that we don’t show our hand going into the draft. Meaning, with Mawae on the roster, it would be less likely that a team would trade ahead of us to grab Pouncey or Tennant.
Truth be told, I’m not sure what to make of this. But we are absolutely desperate for an OC, in my eyes. We have no reason to believe that Olsen or Fry can be an effective starter at the NFL level, let alone both of them. We basically have two spots to fill, so I would certainly be on board with this, or any pickup at all, for that matter.
Good luck with the Redskins Mr. Mike! I'll be watching and cheering for a non-Bronco team for the first time in my life. Well, except when they play the Broncos!
No to Mawae...
We Have Ben Hamilton still who is younger and built the same way (Don’t know if better). Maybe he’ll be moved to Center and Olson take the Left Guard…
But with Josh McDaniels we have no idea what he’ll do in the draft. He could draft Bulaga and move Ryan Harris to left guard.
We don't have Ben Hamilton.
He’s UFA and the Broncos have shown zero interest.
Step aside, my friend, I been doin' it for years.
Said sit on down, open ya eyes, say open up ya ears....
we could become interested again
I think you wait and let him sit out training camp, and then show interest if there’s still a need. It’s not a bad option for Center, but I don’t know if we can do both, i.e., sign both Mawae and Hamilton. I think they’re the kind of resources you cultivate and hope they’re around and willing later on when circumstances necessitate bringing them in.
no goats, no glory.
My guess on OC
If we have to go into the season with our current roster, my guess for the starter at OC, at least starting out, is Hochstein. I think he has played OC in the past with the Pats.
Pretty scary though.
I just threw up in my mouth
If that’s the only other option the FO is considering then Mawae would be ok with me
What is the source for Wiegmann being released ONLY because of his size?
I mean, I could be wrong, but could there have been other factors as well?
This comment will not take into consideration McDaniel’s desire for bigger linemen, but humor me for a second – what if Wiegmann was not released ONLY because of his size making the “size” argument somewhat mute?
IF the size argument is no longer valid – would this change or influence all the “we won’t sign Muwae because he is only 5 pounds heavier than Wiegemen….” opinions?
Something in my gut is just telling me way too much emphasis is being put one this ONE point – and it’s never about just one thing or the other (black or white) it’s all grey!
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by Blackshirt4Broncos on Mar 22, 2010 3:48 PM MDT reply actions 2 recs
Yes, that's an assumption; not a confirmed report
I think Wiegmann was a journeyman who looked good in a ZB scheme but was relinquished for good reason by KC. His shortcomings in a power-oriented scheme showed why he was released.
I outline the differences between Mawae and Wiegmann above, and it aint just the pounds. Someone let their assumptions run away with them. And Klis isn’t much better with his an NFL guy told me report.
no goats, no glory.
Must have veen typing at the same time...
Because I already saw it…. and replied…
I think you’ve hit one of the nails on the head… Wiegmann was not going to be a power blocking answer…
We tend to forget that quarterback is not the only position that needs a scheme that fits them… (they get all the attention when careers are “rejuvenated” in a new scheme…), but it is pertinent for all positions… even center!
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by Blackshirt4Broncos on Mar 22, 2010 4:27 PM MDT up reply actions
there's been too much emphasis on weight
Poundage doesn’t tell us much. Mawae was good enough to earn 1st team pro bowl honors in 2008 and we’re not far removed from that. Wiegmann was the 2nd team that year but it was the first time and it came in a ZB scheme.
I can’t claim to be knowledgeable about who played in what scheme but I’d be a little more comfortable with a frequent pro bowler whose demonstrated he’s at that level recently than a career journeyman who was exposed last year. Mawae may not be a big improvement over Wiegmann but he looks like the better temporary patch in a power-oriented scheme, besides being a better tutor.
We were nice to Wiegmann and did him a favor by letting him go early, and once we realized (based on tape) that he no longer met our criteria, but letting a player go is often a prerequisite to attracting a replacement. Perhaps we made the decision somewhat prematurely but it’s not an insurmountable problem.
The odd thing is that I starting talking about our problems in the interior-OL around the time we went on a losing streak and the point has been overemphasized since then. Everyone wants an OC & OG now, but they are often willing to waste ammunition overkilling the problem. Even if it means that we have to wait until final cuts before adding another Center, we can deal with that situation while we work on a more lasting solution. I’m not a big fan of blowing ammunition on a so-so solution if it means we prevent the best solution. And that may take a little time, so patience is required.
no goats, no glory.
by Colinski on Mar 22, 2010 5:03 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was scrolling down
to see if anyone had addressed the point I wanted to raise, and I see Blackshirt and you have done so. I, too, think the similarity in weight might be a red herring, because it doesn’t mean their techniques and strengths are similar. Mawae has flourished in (what I think is) a power blocking scheme, whereas Weigmann declined due either to age or the fact that a power blocking scheme doesn’t play to his strengths. I don’t know if we’ll end up signing Mawae, but I see nothing illogical per se in signing a center who’s only four pounds heavier than the one we let go.
"Surprised to see you, Captain, though pleased." — from Star Trek episode Space Seed.
Making the size argument moot
Not mute. Sorry to be the grammar police, just trying to help you out.
Great point though. Rec’d
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