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2010 MHR Community Mock Draft -- With the #11 Pick, the Denver Broncos Select....

With the #11 pick in the 2010 MHR Community Mock Draft, the Denver Broncos select....

ILB Rolando McClain, Alabama 

Denver Broncos

Round 1, Pick #11 overall

GM

John Bena

Details of the pick after the jump...

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From GM John Bena:  There were a couple of ways I could have gone here, but McClain was my guy from nearly Day 1 and the recent news of his medical condition has done little to change that. The Broncos need athletes, they need depth all over the field. Sure, the front office did a great job addressing the defensive line, but a big d-line in a 3-4 is designed to allow the linebackers to make plays. McClain give the Broncos a great complement to D.J. Williams. Andra Davis was cut, in large part, because he was a liability in the passing game. Teams forced the Broncos to go to their Nickel defense for large parts of the game, Davis would leave the field, and teams would run right at the Broncos. That won’t happen with McClain. His addition would give the Broncos even more flexibility on defense and give the team tremendous depth at the same time.

Another plus, at least to me, is McClain’s experience playing at a big-time school. He won a National Championship at Alabama and spent two seasons playing for one of the premier defensive minds in all of football – at any level – Nick Saban. At 6-3, 250; McClain is the perfect size to play inside in a 3-4. Essentially, I think you can plug McClain into the starting lineup on the first day of Training Camp and forget about it, he’s that ready.

Sure, the Broncos are talking of moving Mario Haggan inside, or Spencer Larsen. I’m sure they would do a fine job. McClain, however, is an elite talent at the LB position and would be an immediate upgrade on defense..

As for the Crohn’s Disease, with proper management, McClain should be fine. The Broncos are well versed at dealing with issues such as these and this should not be a reason to pass over McClain should he fall to the Broncos. If McClain is there, the Broncos should jump at the chance.


Commish's CommentsErnesto:  I've been trying to find reasons why this won't be the pick at #11 and I keep coming up empty. The Crohn's Disease is a concern, but I think it's the only reason why he'd be available here and not enough of one to pass on him. He's the physical prototype for an inside linebacker in the 3-4, he compliments his impressive physical tools with advanced/polished skills and is an exemplary team leader to boot! Though this pick may lack sizzle, it brings plenty of steak. He should be an immediate starter and a stalwart in the defense for along, long time.   Sayre:  This is a solid pick. With Joe Haden still on the board, I'm a tad surprised, but not really. McClain fits more of an immediate need than Haden, and John really couldn't have gone wrong with this pick. If the Broncos have to choose between McClain, Haden, Dez Bryant, et al, I think they will look hard into trading down. Like John said, the health issue with McClain is far from concerning. I know people, and in particular the starting quarterback of a near state champion football team, who have this disease. It's very manageable, and obviously hasn't limited him that much in college.

I'll stay away from what wasn't with this pick to what was. Rolando McClain is arguably the best linebacker in this class. His size is outstanding, and his production is nearly unmatched. He is a leader on the field, and would be a nice thumper for the Broncos along with D.J. Williams in the middle. I wonder though if the Broncos recognized that D.J. Williams does not have great coverage skills, and if they will rely more on him to be the thumper and go for a better coverage linebacker like Donald Butler, who is my top ILB in this class.

Still, a solid pick by the Broncos. McClain will be a starter in this league for a long time barring injury.

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Round One

 

  1. St,Louis Rams:  QB Jimmy Clausen, Notre Dame
  2. Detroit Lions:  OT Russell Okung. Oklahoma State
  3. Tampa Bay Buccaneers:  DT Ndamukong Suh, Nebraska
  4. Washington Redskins:  OT Bryan Bulaga, Iowa
  5. Kansas City Chiefs:  FS Eric Berry, Tennessee
  6. Seattle Seahawks:  FS Earl Thomas, Texas
  7. Cleveland Browns:  NT Dan Williams, Tennessee
  8. Oakland Raiders:  OT Bruce Campbell, Maryland
  9. Buffalo Bills:  QB Sam Bradford, Oklahoma
  10. Jacksonville Jaguars:  DT Gerald McCoy, Oklahoma
  11. Denver Broncos:  ILB Rolando McClain
  12. Miami Dolphins:  On the Clock
  13. San Francisco 49ers:
  14. Seattle Seahawks: 
  15. New York Giants:
  16. Tennessee Titans:
  17. SanFrancisco 49ers:
  18. Pittsburgh Steelers:
  19. Atlanta Falcons:
  20. Houston Texans:
  21. Cincinnatti Bengals:
  22. New England Patriots:
  23. Green Bay Packers:
  24. Philadelphia Eagles:
  25. Baltimore Ravens:
  26. Arizona Cardinals:
  27. Dallas Cowboys:
  28. San Diego Chargers:
  29. New York Jets:
  30. Minnesota Vikings:
  31. Indianapolis Colts:
  32. New Orleans Saints:

 

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    HAHA YOU are soooooooo wrong.

    The disease he has will not affect his playing ability

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    by TheAngelsColts on Mar 26, 2010 3:47 PM MDT up reply actions  

    erm...Ponderosa is a doctor

    and he has laid out the medical case in excruciating detail elsewhere in other threads on McClain. The concern is very, very real, and if it does flare up, the young man may find his life drastically altered.

    Somebody will still select McClain high on the grounds that he may not develop complications from his disease that compromise his career, and that someone may very well be the Broncos, but his disease is undpredictable, and thus a decision one way or the other about the disease should not be the guiding light in the choice of when to select him.

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    by Jeremy Bolander on Mar 26, 2010 3:54 PM MDT up reply actions   3 recs

    Um...slight disagreement with Jeremy and Ponderosa.

    Ponderosa used the term “terribly misguided.” Those are strong words, strong enough, that if I agreed would prevent me from wanting McClain even in the second round. I ask again, Ponderosa, where is his value?

    by swg777 on Mar 26, 2010 4:00 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

    While health is always a concern

    I have found no real reason he can’t compete at a high level, while not a perfect player, I think your words “terribly misguided” are too strong. To say it is a bad decision or that it’s not the best idea might work but to go that far out at say that is false. He is still considered top talent and will probably still be picked high.

    My emptiness says it doesn't care.

    by Topher Doll on Mar 26, 2010 4:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

    agree

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    by TheAngelsColts on Mar 26, 2010 4:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

    I wouldn't take him in any of the first 4 rounds.

    I understand many disagree with my assessment and I’ve been somewhat strident in my opposition based on my medical experience. He could turn out to be just fine and for his sake I certainly hope so. I’m recommending to my team to not take the chance which I feel is heavily weighted towards unacceptable risk.

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    by Ponderosa on Mar 26, 2010 4:11 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

    Fair enough.

    Thank you for answering. I think your medical opinion, which I value, must be weighed against our talent evaluators. When somebody comes up with a formula that accurately portrays the weight of each concern, let me know!

    by swg777 on Mar 26, 2010 4:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

    Ok I am not doctor but here is what I think and see.

    He has had this Disease (understand it can be very serious if not delt with) all his career. He has played at a very high level with no complications. We have plenty of examples in the NFL of people with this disease and who are sucessful. QB for the Jags is only one example of this.

    As I am sure Ponderosa will tell me there is no way to predict when a complication can occur, and no case is the same however these two there are reason to believe will be similar. I personally see no reason why he will suddenly not play well based on anything in his past. Can it happen cause of this medical issue? yes it can.

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    by TheAngelsColts on Mar 26, 2010 4:21 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

    Well put

    If he has played through this during college, I don’t see a problem, if he takes precautions. While diseases are unpredictable, so are players anyways. Great college players seem much more like to have a “complication” such as struggling in a new system or not living up to potential. I trust this pick.

    My emptiness says it doesn't care.

    by Topher Doll on Mar 26, 2010 4:40 PM MDT up reply actions  

    Not so fast

    It’s true that he played in college with this condition and nobody knew. Until on his pro day he could not run at top speed – and had to disclose his condition to justify it. So it DID have an impact. Which means it is likely to strike again.

    by si_ice on Mar 26, 2010 7:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

    Exactly

    The disease was used as an excuse for being winded.

    ’Nuff said. Cannot be drafted at 11.

    by NYCBronx on Mar 26, 2010 10:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

    That's true

    We shouldn’t draft Spikes either.

    by AllBroncsallday on Mar 27, 2010 2:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

    What I want to know

    Is why people can’t see that this is a manageable problem. While there could be a flare up, and I don’t want that happening, and it would definently affect my decision on the pick and pay scale, I don’t think I could pass over this quality of player for an “if.” I like his ability, and while there is a chance he could be a complication, I’d take that chance over drafting some of the other players in this draft.

    My emptiness says it doesn't care.

    by Topher Doll on Mar 26, 2010 11:03 PM MDT up reply actions  

    It's about risk management

    This could end up being career-shortening. With the data that we have on hand, I’m very uncomfortable in selecting McClain. That said, the team will have much more and much better information and will be better equipped to make that decision. I’ll trust them to do the right thing, but don’t be too surprised if McClain slips quite a bit past us.

    by BroncosBassist on Mar 27, 2010 5:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

    Would it affect your decision if you didn't use the word "if" but used the word "when" instead?

    From what I’ve gathered from our numerous discussions in the past about Crohn’s, there will be flare ups. It’s not an “if” it’s a “when”. Imagine if the Broncos are going into the playoffs and Crohn’s strikes in week 17. We lose him for the postseason. This disease could affect him 20 years from now or it could affect him 20 days after he is drafted.

    I just don’t like the idea of drafting a ticking time bomb with the 11th overall pick, especially if there is no timer on the bomb that can guarantee us at least 5 years of quality play.

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    by Troy Hufford on Mar 27, 2010 8:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

    What if

    we have a good bomb squad in place. JK
    I didn’t feel he was a good pick before the Crohn’s. I feel for him as a player and that it came out at an inopportune time, but what I really don’t like is the fact that another one of the players I thought a team might trade up for is now a huge question mark. This is the reason I wanted us to win the coin flip. Jax is probably going to be able to trade down and we won’t be able to. IMO

    by Digger24 on Mar 27, 2010 8:52 AM MDT up reply actions  

    We still might be able to.

    Berry is still on the board and that would be excellent bait. We could still get a deal in place with Tennessee to move down, like Sayre showed us yesterday. I think that if we really want to get out of 11, we still can.

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    by Troy Hufford on Mar 27, 2010 8:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

    Oops. Meant Haden.

    I’ve been confusing the two, lately.

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    by Troy Hufford on Mar 27, 2010 11:25 AM MDT up reply actions  

    YEP

    If Berry is still on the board at #5 the Chiefs will draft him for sure if not, we might be trading down for more picks.

    by CPT.Caveman on Mar 27, 2010 9:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

    If it's so manageable

    Why couldn’t it be managed during the pro day? Instead, as NYC points out, it was used as the excuse for being winded.

    by AllBroncsallday on Mar 27, 2010 11:04 AM MDT up reply actions  

    Ok than

    Would you prefer that he just sat it out like a lot of players? What would you say than?

    My emptiness says it doesn't care.

    by Topher Doll on Mar 27, 2010 11:06 AM MDT up reply actions  

    Not sure what you mean

    The fact is that while he’s known about the disease, and that he’s apparently managing it well, it still caused him to be unable to compete at his pro day.

    My point is that even though you intend to manage it, it won’t always be managed in the way you’d like.

    I think that it represents too much risk added on top of all the other risks that come along with the draft being a crapshoot.

    by AllBroncsallday on Mar 27, 2010 12:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

    From what I understand,

    Ponderosa actually treats these types of afflictions on a regular basis. He’s stated more than once that this is the type of thing that can get worse over time and can be absolutely debilitating. I’m pretty leery of taking him…

    by BroncosBassist on Mar 26, 2010 7:07 PM MDT up reply actions  

    LOL

    Crohns does effect your everyday life, i know 2 people that have it. McClain will never be 100% on the field never!!!! So go ahead and draft him please, and you’ll wish you hadn’t.

    by CPT.Caveman on Mar 27, 2010 9:27 PM MDT up reply actions  

    LIVING WITH UC

     With ulcerative colitis (UC), months can go by without symptoms. These stretches of time are known as remission. During these times some people may like to think they don’t have UC anymore. But then symptoms return, and this is called a flare.

    To your doctor, a flare-up is when the lining of your colon becomes inflamed. To you, it may be painful, disruptive or even embarrassing. Symptoms include bleeding, diarrhea, cramping and fatigue.

    Some people may “tough it out” or tell themselves things aren’t really that bad. They may be used to excusing themselves from business meetings or family gatherings, or canceling plans altogether. Some simple steps and the right medication can change all that.

    by CPT.Caveman on Mar 27, 2010 9:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

    Ponderosa,

    Easy to say that. Let me put the onus back on you instead of merely disagreeing. Where do you think his value is? I can assure you he won’t make it out of the top 15. Are you saying you have done more due diligence with your research than the team who would pick him?

    by swg777 on Mar 26, 2010 3:49 PM MDT up reply actions  

    Hello swg777. See my comment above.

    I’ve also commented frequently in the last couple weeks in various threads. I think I’m coming across as having something personal against this fine young man. It’s not personal, just good business for the large investment.

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    by Ponderosa on Mar 26, 2010 4:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

    One question...

    if Cutler had been diagnosed with Type II diabetes before the draft, what would your opinion of him be? just wondering.

    by Orange and Blue on Mar 26, 2010 4:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

    My opinion would have been quite different than with McClain.

    Actually Cutler has the more severe form of the disease Type I which has long term implications. He likely would have fallen somewhat, but not out of the first round. Diabetes can be managed very well once recognized and is far more predictable with insulin treatment and maintaining normal blood sugars. There are infection risks and the possibility of low blood sugar (insulin reactions) but these are generally minor. I take care of Crohn’s disease patients when they are hospitalized for flares and surgery. The sad thing is many never knew they had the disease before becoming very ill. Others have the disease for years with only minimal symptoms, but end up with lengthy hospitalizations and major weight loss, multiple surgeries, bowel resections, ileostomies and colostomies. Certainly my perspective is biased by taking care of the sickest patients and many patients have more benign courses. Statistically, I think you’ll end up with a highly paid player spending a lot of time on IR which just isn’t good business sense with a first round pick. Maintaining that he’s had the disease for years with no problems so he won’t have any future problems is flawed thinking in my opinion. I want to emphasize that I have no personal knowledge of his unique individual medical condition, but it wouldn’t change my opinion. Diabetes, even Type I is a whole different risk analysis.

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    by Ponderosa on Mar 26, 2010 6:17 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

    thank you

    I appreciate your experience. It certainly is something to consider

    by Orange and Blue on Mar 27, 2010 1:03 PM MDT up reply actions  

    This is not an out of the blue medical condition

    I heard reports that he’s had it for 7 years now. That means he played Highschool and College football with this it for long time now at a high level. It’s not something that should be underplayed but there are many people who have Crohn’s who have had to make moderate adjustments to there daily lives. My roomate had it and he had to be a little more cognizant of what he ate. Ponderosa aren’t you a doctor or am I thinking of someone else?

    by maritimebronco on Mar 26, 2010 3:58 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

    exactly what I tried to say above

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    by TheAngelsColts on Mar 26, 2010 4:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

    Yes he is

    And has laid out why he thinks that he represents an unacceptable risk in other posts.

    by AllBroncsallday on Mar 26, 2010 5:04 PM MDT up reply actions  

    His ability to deal with the disease in the past doesn't guarantee that the disease will stay the same in the future.

    Think about it this way. If your dog goes out and plays in the street and doesn’t get hit by a car, great. You still have your dog around. He plays in the street 5 or 6 more times and nothing happens. Awesome. No big deal.

    Would you continue to feel confident that your dog is playing in the street for an extended period of time? He hasn’t been hit by a car, in the past, when he played in the street, so there must be no risk of him getting drilled by a car. It must be absolutely safe for him to play in the street. That’s terrible logic.

    The next day, a car drives up the road and hits your dog. (This metaphor isn’t a threat, by the way. I’m not gonna come run over your dog or anything. I was just using it for the sake of comparison. Again, I am using more metaphors this week than I ever have in my previous comments. Strange times, indeed.)

    Anyways…..

    It happens, sometimes. This disease may not be doing much to him at the moment or in the past, but that doesn’t take away the fact that there is still a chance of the disease to flare up and take him out of football forever. Is that a risk that we want to invest our time and money into? We could just as easily grab another player and pay him millions of dollars.

    I just don’t like this gamble. The draft is a crapshoot……… er….. blackjack, as TJ said. Some players might not translate to the NFL, whether that be from a discipline aspect, the speed of the game or whatever. McClain, in addition to all the other reasons he might not pan out in the NFL, has a disease that could take him out of the game even if he turns out to be one of the best to ever play football. I feel for him and wish him the best of luck, but I really hope that McX pick somebody else.

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    by Troy Hufford on Mar 27, 2010 8:54 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

    Disagree

    Doctors said Culpepper was going to recover better, while others said that Brees was going to recover faster. Miami made the wrong choice. I trust what the doctors said. While not always right I feel this is the right choice. McClain is quite the player.

    My emptiness says it doesn't care.

    by Topher Doll on Mar 26, 2010 4:00 PM MDT up reply actions  

    even so,

    if we do take him and he gets sick et al., or anybody else for that matter, it’s not like it’s going to make our defense any worse. as far as i can see we have no where to go but up. and don’t tell me about the first 6 games of last season.. where did our defense go that last two thirds of the year. rolando is a stud. he has issues, so be it. like many other pros. i’m sure he won’t be the only pro player that has ever played with a concern. i say roll the dice, go for it. 6’3, 250 and ready to tear down opposing offenses is something i’d like to see. we haven’t had a true stud LB since al got injured. dj is good but he isn’t a game changer. mcclain could step in and immediately give us the anchor to our defense and a leader for the next decade (if he stays healthy, i know.) but imho, don’t we need the other 52 guys to stay relatively healthy also? and you could say that about any team and all their respective players. seems kind of misguided (if you will) to put such a concern on rolando and his health and not mention anyone else.

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    by grind_core on Mar 26, 2010 8:10 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

    I think the major point that Ponderosa has maintained

    Is that #11 Money is too great of a financial risk for a player with this condition. The chances that he ends up debilitated from his disease outweigh the price tag. Yes he is a starter type player, but for how long? The issue up above about the team doctors doesn’t have merit either. Aren’t these the same doctors that Marshall doesn’t trust? Just saying.
    Oh, and I’m not bashing you G_core, merely adding my two cents. =)

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    by KaptainKirk on Mar 26, 2010 8:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

    Sigh...

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    by PredominantlyOrange on Mar 26, 2010 4:03 PM MDT reply actions  

    My Problem with this pick is that we are investing a lot of $$$ into our LB Core

    You want to have the best player possible but dollars do tie in somewhere. Our Line backing core would consist of 3 first round picks making top Dollar and soon to be one of the top paid rush linebackers in all of football. Its fine when you have not salary cap up, but it might end up as one of the most expensive Linebacking cores in all of football. Love the idea on paper but I don’t want to look at the check…

    by maritimebronco on Mar 26, 2010 4:04 PM MDT reply actions   2 recs

    At first glance I agree with you....However,

    OLB in our 3-4 (or 5-2) is a radically different position than MLB in our 3-4 (or 5-2) no matter what the positions are called.

    by swg777 on Mar 26, 2010 4:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

    later 1st round picks aren't that expensive

    The top-5/top-10 are really pricey, but after that they are not really that bad… if they are starting, they are good value. They make roughly the same as a mediocre free agent, so Ayers won’t be breaking the bank, and if starting, McClain would be decent if not great value.

    2nd round and later picks are huge cap-values for teams.

    by cjfarls on Mar 26, 2010 4:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

    Great Pick John

    McClain will make everybody on the defense better just by his presence! I hope it happens.

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    by discgolfin' on Mar 26, 2010 4:04 PM MDT reply actions  

    I dissagree with the pick

    But I understand it too. You can argue from a best play available stand point or even a needs stand point for the Broncos. Even from either position I think there are players later in the draft that can add depth at ILB and I think our in house options are acceptable for now.

    And I think we would be better served looking at our interior offensive line at this point. Even if it is a “Reach” for one of the linemen. I know it is no guarantee that we can find a trading partner in the draft to move back to a “better” spot to pick one of the other top players. And if we cannot I am ok with a “reach” here.

    Great write up too. Love the way you explained it.

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    by Arimaris on Mar 26, 2010 4:16 PM MDT reply actions  

    Great pick John Bena

    You Sir, are my hero today.

    I understand that there is a mediacal concern that those above me and that our resident Doctor’s are concerned with. Yet, teams don’t seem concerned and other players with the disease play with it.

    This is a great pick at a great need and after the changes to the defensive line, this should immediately help us go from stopping the run to stomping the runner into the MF ground. Find a way to get us Pouncey so we can run the ball and I’ll submit you for a Nobel Prize!

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    by Alex on Mar 26, 2010 4:17 PM MDT reply actions   2 recs

    Why would we take him

    When his value is at the end of the 1st, were we dont have a pick, and we have 3 starting OLB’s?

    by DBroncs1414 on Mar 26, 2010 6:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

    I also love the pick...

    McClain will be a beast for us if we get him.

    by isaac303h on Mar 26, 2010 4:40 PM MDT reply actions  

    there are about 5 realistic players I'd be happy about getting at #11

    McClain
    Haden
    Bulaga
    T Williams
    Spiller

    First preference is trade down.

    by Orange and Blue on Mar 26, 2010 4:47 PM MDT reply actions  

    Like most of it

    McClain, Bulaga and Williams I like, and while Spiller and Haden would be nice, the other 3 seem like they would be a bit more useful and fill bigger needs. But all 5 are great players.

    My emptiness says it doesn't care.

    by Topher Doll on Mar 26, 2010 4:50 PM MDT up reply actions  

    if we are not completely surprised...

    all is good at #11 (Bryant would be surprising, but I could see me talking myself into liking it too).

    by Orange and Blue on Mar 26, 2010 5:10 PM MDT up reply actions  

    trust the docs?

    These are the same guys who misdiagnosed brandon marshall and almost cost the guy his career. Good thing he went to other doctors and didn’t stick with the broncos assessment.

    by David G. Little on Mar 26, 2010 4:49 PM MDT via mobile reply actions  

    I said the same thing above

    before I made it this far. Lol

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    by KaptainKirk on Mar 26, 2010 8:51 PM MDT up reply actions  

    The docs didn't make this pick, though.

    From what Ponderosa said, in this post and others, our doctors aren’t likely to want him at 11.

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    by Troy Hufford on Mar 27, 2010 8:59 AM MDT up reply actions  

    Have We Heard Anything?

    I am yet to hear of a single team offput by McClain’s admission that he suffers from CRohn’s disease; has anyone heard anything from any team about it?

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    by ejruiz on Mar 26, 2010 5:04 PM MDT reply actions  

    Nope I have heard nothing

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    by TheAngelsColts on Mar 26, 2010 5:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

    Guru, lets hope the Denver draft room is reading MHR today.

    by mikebirty on Mar 26, 2010 5:48 PM MDT reply actions  

    For football reasons is the only reason we don't draft McClain.. Crohns is a very manageable bowel disorder!!!

    Crohn’s disease is a chronic inflammatory bowel disease that causes ongoing inflammation of the intestinal tract. It is similar to ulcerative colitis, another inflammatory bowel disease. But ulcerative colitis usually is confined to the innermost layer of the large intestine and rectum. Crohn’s disease can occur anywhere in the intestine, often in patches surrounded by healthy tissue, and can spread deeper into the tissues. Symptoms include chronic bloody or watery diarrhea, abdominal pain, fever, and loss of appetite. Symptoms tend to come and go, with the disease becoming active or going into remission several times during the person’s lifetime.

    Crohn’s disease can cause intestinal obstructions, ulcers (most often in the lower part of the small intestine, the large intestine, or the rectum), fistulas (hollow passages from one part of the intestine to another), and anal fissures (a crack in the anus or the skin around the anus that can lead to infection). In addition, people with Crohn’s disease are at risk of malnutrition, because their intestine cannot absorb all the nutrients they need from their diet.

    Crohn’s disease affects 2 – 7 out of 100,000 people and researchers believe that these numbers are growing. It develops mostly between the ages of 20 – 40, although children and older adults may also develop the condition. There is no cure for Crohn’s disease. Medication and diets can help control the condition and sometimes bring about long-term remission. Some people with Crohn’s disease will require surgery to remove part of the digestive tract at some point in their lives. However, surgery does not cure the disease.

    by RafaTheRed on Mar 26, 2010 6:41 PM MDT reply actions   1 recs

    I think you're making my point, not refuting it.

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    by Ponderosa on Mar 26, 2010 6:52 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

    Not really! I'm definately refuting your claim!

    Got two friend with Crohns and they both lead disciplined, active and normal lives. I actually think Crohns could be part of the reason why McClain is a model student, studious and focused in his chosen profession!

    Partying, drinking and poor diet is a sure fire way to attain bowel inflammation.

    How many football players can you name with drug taking issues or have been arrested on DUI’s? Don’t think these greater issue would or have affected this athlete.

    by RafaTheRed on Mar 26, 2010 7:07 PM MDT up reply actions   3 recs

    I like this point..

    If, and it’s a big if, the Broncos medical staff, or external specialists say that it’s safe to pick him, which my guess is that they would have if we pick him, then we would have us the most hard working, dedicated young man to come out in this draft. To live with this and to still aspire to pro football you must have immense drive and self belief. Those are the sort of intangibles that can make you whole heartedly support this dude where ever he goes.

    by HorseStance on Mar 26, 2010 8:55 PM MDT up reply actions  

    I am rooting for him wholeheartedly to be a success in the the NFL.

    I just hope it isn’t us to take the risk.

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    by Ponderosa on Mar 26, 2010 10:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

    This is a tough one...high risk, high reward situation....

    There’s no doubt about the talent level he brings, but take a moment to think about it…….

    It’s not just a football career on the line, it could be life-altering. I tend to trust a Doc’s judgement over my own, but I also like to know absolutely everything about my problems before going in to see them. This is a tough one… I hope that the team’s medical staff is involved, and that they’re not drinking koolaid before this pick is made.

    I think he’d be a very good fit for us, but I just don’t know if it’s worth the risk to him or the team….

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    by Broncotodd on Mar 26, 2010 6:41 PM MDT reply actions  

    If

    Denver doesn’t select McClain and allow him to fall to another team, then we’ll know how their medical staff felt about his disease and as a result, his inherent value to the team.

    I can’t tell you how curious I am about how this will play out in the draft.

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    by Horsepower on Mar 28, 2010 12:43 AM MDT up reply actions  

    Guru, you just made me a happy man!

    I’ll be even happier, if the Broncos actually do it . . .

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    by AZDynamics on Mar 26, 2010 7:44 PM MDT reply actions  

    I love McClain, but I am scared of the disease. It might not bother him to where he can’t play, but it could also flare up anytime. I think this drops him.

    This is not a planted rumor about a player. This is something that came out on his Pro Day.

    by MileHighFlyr on Mar 26, 2010 9:09 PM MDT reply actions  

    Everyone has examples of friends or someone they know with Crohn's who is doing well.

    McClain has had a flare preventing him from competing in his pro day. Current literature says patients with active disease have a 70% chance of continued active disease over the next 12 months. 50% will achieve a remission over the next 48 months. Since by his own admission McClain has an active flair we can assume his first year will have only a 30% chance of being disease free and 50% chance of participating in the next 2 years. How many of the examples MHR members are citing are professional NFL caliber players? None I think. To take a first round pick with these liabilities is speculative and in my opinion reckless given the risk. Patients participating in clinical trials are not professional athletes. One could say he is likely to better than clinical trials or that he is likely to be worse given the stress of his life style. I’m recommending we don’t take the risk. I think I’m done with further commenting on the subject. You either accept the logic and experience or you don’t. I’m not the one making the decision; I’m the one saying be careful what you choose and be willing to accept the consequences.

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    by Ponderosa on Mar 26, 2010 10:09 PM MDT up reply actions   3 recs

    Now with the first half of what you said I think you very well explained why you wouldn't take him.

    because it is a risk because of the money his first contract will be compared to what he may be able to do because of this flair. Great job explaining how the flair could affect him idk know that part. I know at least I cited a NFL player idk about the rest though but at least one I think did.

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    by TheAngelsColts on Mar 26, 2010 11:31 PM MDT up reply actions  

    For what it's worth, my mind is starting to change - and I really, really wanted him

    Thanks for all your insight.

    Good luck with the Redskins Mr. Mike! I'll be watching and cheering for a non-Bronco team for the first time in my life. Well, except when they play the Broncos!

    by Alex on Mar 26, 2010 11:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

    One more thought, if you're want to...

    Could you tell me any more about the percentages/liklihood of how long an “active flair” lasts and what that would meant to his play time/performance?

    I know you can’t really give any definites, I’m just wondering if you could sort of make it more understandable as to what kind of time/production loss we might be looking at for a flare up. I assume it’s not likely he could play through it? Is it likely that he would be out for a game, a month, the season? Any info would be greatly appreciated. But I see where you’re tired of commenting on it, so I’ll take no offense if you don’t. Thanks!

    Good luck with the Redskins Mr. Mike! I'll be watching and cheering for a non-Bronco team for the first time in my life. Well, except when they play the Broncos!

    by Alex on Mar 27, 2010 12:05 AM MDT up reply actions  

    McClain

    reported that he had been experiencing flu-like symptoms for two days before his proday, and there is no report on if they lingered longer, but that would put his flareup at around 3 days.

    He also missed 3 days previous to his BCS Bowlgame, one of those a day of practice, with “a stomach ache/virus/flu (depending on the source)”. This has not been corroborated as a Chron’s flareup, however.

    If he were to have a 3 day flareup during the season it would have a 42% chance of occuring on a game day. It may or may not actually result in missed playing time, it would most certainly reduce his effectiveness.

    A terrible circumstance would be requiring surgery, however. Garrard required approximately a month and half for his recovery (recover enough to practice), and that was considered exceptional. If something like that were to occur during the season, that could be 5-6 games, and would be stressful as heck.

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    by Jeremy Bolander on Mar 27, 2010 3:14 AM MDT up reply actions  

    Thanks for droppin some knowledge!

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    by Alex on Mar 27, 2010 11:31 AM MDT up reply actions  

    Interesting

    Garrard’s situation was a bit different. Not sure if McClain has had this done, but in 2004 when Garrard was diagnosed, he had a surgery that reportedly doesn’t cure Crohn’s but it limits flare up’s and essentially manages the disease for 15—20 years. I have been doing a TON of research on this subject. Reading the testimonies of those with Crohn’s, reading about the disease, and I do NOT claim to be a doctor, nor do I claim to know more than they do because they see patients on a daily basis.

    BUT, from what I have read/heard/seen, this disease will not limit McClain from having a prosperous NFL career. When you speak about him having been affected on his pro day, it could be that he just simply had to take a dump lol

    Surgery would not, from what I’ve read, be a terrible circumstance. Based on the career of one David Garrard, I think the surgery is the best route to travel, and if this disease can be limited and managed then McClain is worth the risk.

    People on message boards all around the web indicate that sports is something that helps them with Crohn’s, because playing sports reduces stress. There are long distance swimmers with Crohn’s, soccer players, etc…

    If this kid has played football at as high a level as he had for the last 8 years, who are we, even as doctors to tell him that he can’t play in the NFL at a high level? Not trying to downplay the role of the doctor in all of this, but if I had Crohn’s and someone ELSE was telling me that I can’t do something when I know full well that I can, I’d be a little peeved.

    We’ll see how this all plays out.

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    by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 29, 2010 12:36 PM MDT up reply actions  

    You either accept the logic and experience or you don’t???

    Hi Ponderosa

    I’ll take your earlier quote! “I understand many disagree with my assessment and I’ve been somewhat strident in my opposition based on my medical experience. He could turn out to be just fine and for his sake I certainly hope so.”

    This is really not an assessment but an assumption!

    For me in your argument there’s no real basis for comparison! You really need to base any test results against an established criteria, or against the performance of other athletes, or against previous performance. And for me in my argument I will offer established criteria – McClain is not the only athlete ever to be affected by Crohns!. UFC fighter Drew McFedries, UFC Brock Lesner and Jacksonville quarterback David Garrard all perform to the highest levels with the disease in check!.

    David Garrard was diagnosed with Crohn’s in 2004 and has controlled the disease through medication and changes in his diet. McClain was diagnosed in high school and has been dealing with it ever since. What has he achieved since arriving at the Alabama? A three-year starter, Butkus Award winning in 2009 and All-American. Recording 105 tackles, 14.5 for loss in the 2009 season.

    You also said “I’m recommending to my team to not take the chance which I feel is heavily weighted towards unacceptable risk”.

    I think the evidence above dispels your theory and recommendation that this is an unacceptable risk. Its a slight risk at best, yes.

    I really don’t think we should be discriminating against a player if he’s qualified his body of work throughout his affected period! And I think the NFL agrees with me!

    This is a snippet from CBSsports.com

    One scout told NFLDraftScout.com that McClain’s medical condition is a non-factor, while an NFL general manager said, “it shouldn’t affect his draft status.” Another scout said McClain likely won’t fall too far because “it only takes one team” to believe that Crohn’s won’t affect his play.

    I think the Broncos should be that team.

    by RafaTheRed on Mar 27, 2010 3:31 AM MDT up reply actions   2 recs

    Risk

    Risk, risk, risk. This is a big contract that he could end up playing very little of. Every case of Crohn’s is different, and his might be relatively mild during his playing career. I don’t like the pick, and I would be uncomfortable if we did make it. Ponderosa is simply stating that he doesn’t like the increased risk that this brings about.

    by BroncosBassist on Mar 27, 2010 6:03 AM MDT up reply actions  

    McFedries, “"My chron’s disease was a crutch because I was forced to take three years off”

    Brock Lesnar was reported as almost dying by Dana White and possibly being forced to retire. I understand that he is training again, however the fact remains that he went without being able to train or fight for a good [year?] now.

    David Garrard had parts of his intestine removed and had months of recovery.

    by Todd Jewell on Mar 27, 2010 7:34 AM MDT up reply actions   2 recs

    Exactly

    I was about to mention Brock Lesnar, but you already beat me to it. +1

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    by Troy Hufford on Mar 27, 2010 9:05 AM MDT up reply actions  

    surely lesnar has to worry more about the supplements that he took when in the WWF

    by mikebirty on Mar 27, 2010 12:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

    lol that's fair.

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    by Troy Hufford on Mar 27, 2010 3:49 PM MDT up reply actions  

    Excellent. “A slight risk at best” my eye. I really hope they don’t take McClain.

    by AllBroncsallday on Mar 27, 2010 12:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

    Nice pick Guru

    Taking McLain at 11 is no risker than drafting Jarvis Moss, etc…. We could take any of these guys mentioned and them turn out to bust. I’ll take my chances and draft a beast in the middle! Now go after Pouncy/Iupati/…..and then Tebow!

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    by Idaho Nate on Mar 26, 2010 10:37 PM MDT reply actions  

    There's a common thread with the guys you mention..

    UF guys generally don’t pan out in the NFL. No thanks to Pouncey, Haden, Tebow, etc.

    by Hobnail_Boot on Mar 26, 2010 11:59 PM MDT up reply actions  

    My dream pick..

    ..and an absolute steal at #11.

    by Hobnail_Boot on Mar 26, 2010 11:59 PM MDT reply actions  

    My thinking on this pick is more in the area of an OT or a OLB.

    I would rather pick Donald Butler as an ILB to work into supplanting either DJ, Mario or Larsen at ILB – whoever ends up playing together.

    Picking another stud at OLB who would rotate with DOOM on run defense would be a blessing as well. I wonder if the reason that we are still seeing Jarvis Moss on the roster is because of a need here. However, I don’t see him as a solution.

    Also an OT like Trent Williams who could play either tackle position giving insurance behind both Harris and Clady as well as playing an OG position appears to me to be sounder than picking McClain. I realize that he is a tremendous talent. For me not now, not this place. I would rather have the others I mentioned.

    Good post, John. Doesn’t matter that we don’t agree. Still a good post.

    by Blackknigh on Mar 27, 2010 1:13 AM MDT reply actions   1 recs

    Something I don't understand

    Why ANYONE thinks the Broncos are in the market for a backup offensive tackle in the first round of the draft? I could understand wanting someone who could transition to guard for us, but taking a guy as “insurence” for Clady or Harris?

    Harris’ injury is progressing to the point where I read today he will be available by June 11th mini camp, or perhaps it was July, I cannot remember. Anyone suggesting Bulaga or Trent Williams as insurance for Ryan Harris needs to check out his actual medical status!

    From Josina Anderson: Ryan Harris is targeting the June 11th-13th mini camp for his return to the practice field. Can we eliminate this ridiculous talk that the Broncos are going after a right tackle to replace Harris, lol?

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    by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 27, 2010 2:20 AM MDT reply actions  

    You yourself have had mocks with an OT/OG at the 11 spot.

    I recall one with Bulaga and one with Iupati saying he could be a OT if needed. Sorry but this ANYONE does feel a backup OT is very important. In fact I would go so far as to say that this was the biggest reason for our downfall last year. The season went south when Harris went down.
    I am not going to say McClain was a bad pick. Crohn’s or no Crohn’s he is an outstanding athlete playing a position of need that doesn’t have a very long life expectancy in the NFL anyway. I just don’t feel he fit our system right. From what I’ve read and seen his tackles are not textbook wrap up tackles. He tackles high. He is not good in coverage, which is why Davis is gone. This is what I don’t get is why ANYONE would think we are going to draft McClain at 11 when we just let a better player in Davis go.

    by Digger24 on Mar 27, 2010 7:26 AM MDT up reply actions  

    I've mocked T/G's to play GUARD

    not to draft a right tackle in the first round. Tell you what, you mock a right tackle in the first round, and we’ll see if you’re right!

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    by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 29, 2010 12:40 PM MDT up reply actions  

    Too slow to support passing game!

    Has this not been a red flag?. You can’t defend what you can’t catch? He’s too slow in passing game. You can’t fall in love with his metrics. He played behind a mountain, who keep Oline off of him. It masked his flaws(no speed) he actually looked clumsy in open field tackling at times…again no closing speed. Had to play back on his heels, not on his toes. Dan Williams or Joe Haden are the pck…:)

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    by Hogblog on Mar 27, 2010 7:29 AM MDT via mobile reply actions   2 recs

    This is where McClain mania confuses me.

    While he’s a player that will probably make somebody happy, this idea that he can solve the coverage quandary at LB doesn’t jive with what the professional evaluators say about him. This isn’t a guy that’s going to be running with Gates, Clark, or has the twitch to deal with slot guys underneath. He is not good in coverage, and even in college, behind the manimal Alabama line, he raised doubts about his ability to be a sideline to sideline player in the NFL. The idea that this will change in the NFL sounds like Shanahan logic to me. Throw in the fact that Denver released its SILB blind (which, to me, sends a signal about how strongly Denver values the position) and has a very good WILB, and I just don’t see it happening.

    But, hey, maybe Denver can grab Butler three or four rounds later to sub in for McClain in nickel packages…or maybe Barrett will make a leap.

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    by PredominantlyOrange on Mar 27, 2010 7:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

    I think you and me are the only two here that don’t like McClain =)

    by Todd Jewell on Mar 27, 2010 8:03 AM MDT up reply actions  

    I don't dislike him...

    …wouldn’t complain much about picking him, but IMO, the Broncos need a #11 ILB about as much as they need a #11 LT or RB. That and the fact that everybody ignores the almost universal ding on his ability to cover. To me, if you believe you have coverage problems in the LB Corps, then you draft LB’s who figure to be able to cover. You just don’t assume a strength just because you like everything else about a guy. There is no doubt that he would bring a great package of strengths to the Broncos, but he still subs out on 3rd down— and you still have teams scheming Denver into the nickel so that they can stuff the ball down Wesley Woodyard’s throat.

    Iupati! Iupati! Iupati!

    by PredominantlyOrange on Mar 27, 2010 11:01 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

    I agree 100%...

    Plus the amount of money we’d be tying up into our LB’s would be ridiculous; and the fact that we’d be drafting him to play the TED LB spot, even though those players tend not to be very expensive because they are just taking up blocks and providing holes to the QB. That is why someone like Mario Haggan would be perfect for that spot. I’m not against taking an inside linebacker, just not in the first round….
    If Joe Haden or Dan Williams are still available, I can’t see us going in any other direction!

    by sjk7 on Mar 27, 2010 12:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

    FYI...

    My pick in the SBNation Mock Draft comes out today. In that Draft, McClain was already taken – by the Chiefs at #5 – http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2010/3/25/1387164/2010-sb-nation-nfl-mock-draft

    Be on the lookout for my pick later today….

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    by John Bena on Mar 27, 2010 7:44 AM MDT reply actions  

    That's who I got for the Chiefs in our last Mock

    Except I traded down, moved up in the 2nd round, picked up a 3rd rounder, and grabbed McClain at #9. I’m such a stud (pat, pat) =)

    Good luck with the Redskins Mr. Mike! I'll be watching and cheering for a non-Bronco team for the first time in my life. Well, except when they play the Broncos!

    by Alex on Mar 27, 2010 11:35 AM MDT up reply actions  

    Pouncey taken at #11... Very solid. Very solid

    I posted the following in CapitolLions’ recent fanpost where he was looking for advice on who to draft for us at #11:

    So, don’t be afraid to take McClain or even to reach for Iupati or Pouncey if you can’t trade back. People (most) would understand and like the pick.

    Great pick. I would have made your McClain pick here, and I would have pounced on the top-center there. Well represented!

    Good luck with the Redskins Mr. Mike! I'll be watching and cheering for a non-Bronco team for the first time in my life. Well, except when they play the Broncos!

    by Alex on Mar 27, 2010 2:12 PM MDT up reply actions  

    I love

    how everyone hated the pick….idots. haha

    by Nick Cast on Mar 27, 2010 5:43 PM MDT up reply actions  

    Let's see now, the kid has had this condition since he was 8 years old, right?

    It’s kind of funny that he just brought it out and the cloud of confusion has suddenly surrounded him. Playing high school sports and never having to sit out a game in college and all of a sudden his value plummets? I don’t buy that and I don’t think teams physicians will either. We have to be sensable when we try to diagnose the kid’s illness here in an unsterile world. To say he can’t or won’t perform with or without complications is ludicrous.

    by bfree2bronc on Mar 27, 2010 10:03 AM MDT reply actions   1 recs

    Gee Bfree, I sure hope

    that the “8 year old” onset is not correct. That would make his case one of the earlier onsets I have encountered, and would, IMO, predict a more aggressive course over time. I made the point (when McLain’s condition was first made public) that the expression of this disease is quite variable, and that I would want to know more about his specific case before making even general recommendations or statements. I then stayed out of the discussion because (lacking much more data) there is no reasonable way to predict an INDIVIDUAL risk. The only thing we can get a grip on is the average risk for population groups. However, if this age of onset is true, it would tilt my PERSONAL (not medical) opinion toward that expressed by Ponderosa; the risk of McLain not being there when we need him would be getting larger. Ponderose already stated that we (physicians) are slanted in our views by the fact that predominently it is the more severely afflicted people who seek medical care, and I would add that specialist sees an even more refined population….Conversely, I suspect it is also true that there is a significant number of people with this disease that NEVER get sufficient symptoms to bring their diagnosis to the attention of physicians. The spectrum of the disease is VERY wide, but we are most focused as phsycians on those who are prevented from leading a near-normal lifestyle.
    From a football point of view, excluding the health concerns, I like the pick.

    Not-So-Final-Opinion; If we take him, I will be praying for him as a a fellow man to do well,, and not add to any negative vibes by discussing it further. I am a weird mix of scientist, fatalist, New Age religious revisionsist, 70’s flower child, devout Christian, and existensialist who still has the magical belief systems I had in kindergarden (or perhaps more Teutonically correct, “kindergarten”). This does not make for one who stands solidly by ANY statement. BUT …I’m never bored examining how it is I form my opinions.

    by idahobronc on Mar 27, 2010 11:01 AM MDT up reply actions  

    LOL...I read shortly after his condition came to light that he had the disease since he was 8.

    To go back and search for that article may be fruitless in finding. Not to insult any medical doctor’s intellegence for they are taught to administer drugs for every illness or disease. Many people are turning to herbal healing with some success. Don’t get me wrong, doctors are needed, but if there is a nature cure or treatment. Since most doctors don’t acknowledge holistic healing then their only guide to treatment comes from what their medical book advises to do. Again, we don’t have McClain’s medical history or information on what he uses to help with the inflamation, all we know is, that he has the condition. Will it affect him and his ability to perform? Don’t know. Can we sit here and judge how his contion will affect his play. Nope. All anybody can do is speculate and wonder, what if, because the only evidence we do have is that he never missed a game in college on the account of it. It would seem possible that there would be clauses in an nfl contract to protect the teams interests in cases like this.

    by bfree2bronc on Mar 27, 2010 11:50 AM MDT up reply actions  

    Gad......I hate to think

    of the legal nuances that would be involved in a contract that protected the team from a flare of his disease, much less the potential outcry from the players union, Crohn’s support groups, ACLU…..probably everybody but PETA. Glad I have so little interest in the practice of law.
    No insult to my intelligence meant, nor taken. I pray our man can have a life of worthwhile accomplishment in all fields of endeavor he enters. Unfortunately, his lack of major flares thus far just doesn’t tell us much about his future risk….just the nature of the damn disease. And you are right…no way to predict whether it will adversly affect his individual career….. we can only talk in terms of average population risk. The old saying is that even if the risk for the population is 1 in a million, it is 100% for that single individual.

    by idahobronc on Mar 27, 2010 12:14 PM MDT up reply actions  

    I belong to an offshoot of PETA

    We are a protestant group- People for the Eating of Tasty Animals.

    by idahobronc on Mar 27, 2010 1:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

    Alas,

    in this year I have to work 7 day/week; This year, of all years, when my buddies report the run is one of the best. OUCH and DANG IT! Fortunately, one of my jobs has a lot of down time (like this afternoon)- but I am pinned to one spot. BUT, there is access to MHR here; otherwise, I might get crazier than I am.
    Back to topic- Even with the health concerns, I like McClain (hey, how do you spell his name, anyway?), and would not be offended if he were the choice. However, 1) there are several good picks in this draft that should still be available, and no guarantee that McClain himself will even still be there (I saw one projection having him go at # 5 to KC, but doubt it will happen that way.) 2) McD has had time to acclimate, therefore no excuses are allowed. As long as he doesn’t take a jump off of a tall bridge into shallow water, I think we should be OK.

    by idahobronc on Mar 27, 2010 3:22 PM MDT up reply actions  

    Have you checked out the DenverBroncos web site?

    They are profiling different positional prospects and yesterday’s was on ILBers. When Weatherspoon was asked what teams had talked to him, the first team out of his mouth was the Broncos. Like it was a pleasure talking to them.

    by bfree2bronc on Mar 27, 2010 3:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

    Will have check it out at home. This computer has no sound capability.

    I could go with Weatherspoon and several others, depending on who is already off the board. Like I said, nice to have options….wish we had more picks.

    by idahobronc on Mar 27, 2010 4:19 PM MDT up reply actions  

    Don't make fun of PETA, I Love that organization

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    by Idaho Nate on Mar 27, 2010 3:22 PM MDT reply actions  

    No offense meant; Nate

    The intent of the organization is great, but I suspect some of the more extreme statements regarding animal rights may make even their own members uneasy. It’s only these end-of-spectrum statements that make PETA fodder for ill-considered humor like mine.
    More personally, I notice your sig, and apologize if I offended you regarding vegatarianism. Intelligently exucuted vegatarianism is a healthy choice for mind, body, and spirit, as its execution also engenders self-discipline and introspection into areas of our lives we don’t often take time to contemplate. I suspect these statements are like preaching to the choir, though. Again, no offense meant.

    by idahobronc on Mar 27, 2010 4:11 PM MDT up reply actions  

    PETA does a lot of good.

    They also do a lot of wierd stuff. I’m already on the record about my love of animals. To quote the bumper sticker, “they’re delicious”.

    "People who live in glass houses...shouldn't."

    by jayrockstone on Mar 27, 2010 4:12 PM MDT up reply actions  

    Jeez, take a joke fellas! Read my signature. Just had me some tasty elk steak last night!

    "Vegetarians are cool. All I eat are vegetarians - except for the occasional mountain lion steak "

    Ted Nugent

    by Idaho Nate on Mar 27, 2010 7:06 PM MDT up reply actions  

    LMAO.....I thought I might get a few of you with that one!

    "Vegetarians are cool. All I eat are vegetarians - except for the occasional mountain lion steak "

    Ted Nugent

    by Idaho Nate on Mar 27, 2010 11:49 PM MDT up reply actions  

    Good one Nate lol

    "All credibility, all good conscience, all evidence of truth come only from the senses." Friedrich Nietzsche

    by Horsepower on Mar 28, 2010 12:59 AM MDT up reply actions  

    this mock is awful lengthy...

    cant they have 12 hrs to turn in their cards vs 24? I have the Saints and I might have a chance to take Jake Locker at this pace.

    by Orange and Blue on Mar 27, 2010 7:41 PM MDT reply actions  

    Wait, wouldn't the Lions draft Suh?

    I don’t have much problem with this pick, and I also don’t have any problems with PETA because of the shoots that they do because protecting animals is cool.

    "Left hand, right hand, it doesn't matter. I'm amphibious." - Charles Shackleford
    "He’s a stiff." - The Legendary Doug Moe
    "We have a great bunch of outside shooters. Unfortunately, all our games are played indoors." - Weldon Drew
    "I really didn't want it, but now that I've won it, it's nice. It's an honor. It's nice to know people don't think you're a total idiot. ... It must have been a poor year for coaches." - Doug Moe...talking about winning 1987-88 Coach of the Year award.
    "Keep your head up and don't let anything get to you." - Dante Bichette Jr.

    by LACK on Mar 28, 2010 7:32 AM MDT reply actions  

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