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Just a thought about Earl Thomas and one of our division foes...

Hey everyone,

I'm not the most prolific or knowledgeable of posters, but I had a funny idea I thought I might share with you regarding the minor controversy surrounding Earl Thomas.

In the NFL Network "State of the Franchise" segment, Mike Mayock suggested that the Broncos might want to look for a playmaker in the early portions of the draft.  He acknowledged the difficulties we experienced with the interior offensive line but felt there is good value for those positions in the later rounds. The playmaker he thought of was Earl Thomas.

While I believe that we have a lot of good youth and depth at the safety postion, so this initially puzzled me.  However, the post the other day about Joe Haden got me to thinking about the need we currently have at cornerback.  Continuing along this line of thinking, i began wondering about the possibility of drafting Earl Thomas as a corner.  

I lack sufficient knowledge about the physical and mental skills required to play both positions, but i can think of one successful example from a division rival: Nnamdi Asomugha.  He played safety at Cal but made the switch to corner in the NFL.  I don't think anyone would argue that worked out poorly for the Raiders.

Nonetheless, Earl Thomas and Nnamdi Asomugha are two different players and I can't use the success of one to justify taking the other high in the draft, but I think it's an interesting proposition.  What do you think, Bronco fans?

This is a Fan-Created Comment on MileHighReport.com. The opinion here is not necessarily shared by the editorial staff of MHR

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Just ran a 4.37 at the Texas Pro Day today. Even better than his 4.48 at the combine.

My emptiness says it doesn't care.

by Topher Doll on Mar 31, 2010 7:01 PM MDT reply actions  

I like it...

If we could get Thomas with the 11th and still grab Pouncey with the pick we get for Marshall I am all for this. He would be an upgrade over most of the dbs on our roster

by theflanman86 on Mar 31, 2010 7:10 PM MDT reply actions  

To whom on our roster are you referring?

"All by their heads, he places crowns."

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by Tempestuous Binary on Mar 31, 2010 8:39 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

well....while I don't agree with theflanman

He does say MOST of the DB’s….which I believe consists of Dawkins, bailey, Ty Law, Smith, ah hell you know what I mean

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
- Thomas Alva Edison

"Success is not a place at which one arrives, but rather... the spirit with which one undertakes and continues the journey."
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by DenBronx on Apr 1, 2010 10:33 AM MDT up reply actions  

...Goodman, Hill...

Maybe he’s a Chiefs fan that confused this for Arrowhead Pride.

"All by their heads, he places crowns."

"Brandon Marshall isn't as good as you think he is." - a random hobo I met

by Tempestuous Binary on Apr 2, 2010 10:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

haha must be

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
- Thomas Alva Edison

"Success is not a place at which one arrives, but rather... the spirit with which one undertakes and continues the journey."
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by DenBronx on Apr 7, 2010 11:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

I think we are fine for the future with Bruton and McBath

So if we were going to use the 11 pick on a CB, I’d prefer it be Haden, the naturally better CB

by DBroncs1414 on Mar 31, 2010 7:56 PM MDT reply actions  

Id rather

Get berry and move mcbath or bruton to corner

by Pmoreno95 on Mar 31, 2010 9:05 PM MDT via mobile reply actions  

The line between a safety and a CB is becoming blurred

Because the league has become such a pass happy affair teams are starting to look for “safeties” that basically are corners. Drafting Thomas wouldnt be a bad idea for the Broncos, you could play him in nickel; and then figure out where he fits after that.

If he didnt work as a CB he can surely play FS, him and Dawk might give you the best tandem in the league. The problem is safeties are overrated. A pass rusher or a CB is much more likely to directly effect that out come of a game, than a safety. Its just a sexy position like RB. You really dont need someone sexy toting the rock (ask Shanny he’d put any scrub back their), but that doesnt stop fans from wanting first round RBs

Very very few players go from safety to corner FYI, its almost always the other way around (Im talking like 99 percentile here)

IMO

by Foilhat on Mar 31, 2010 9:11 PM MDT reply actions  

Pouncey!!!

Pro-bowl center for the next decade in a new type of run system that we’re switching to, thats my kind of playmaker…..start in the trenches baby, then worry about “fringe” playmakers. If we still suck we can get safteys and cb and ILBs later in high rounds. At least our trenches will be solid. Thats my philosophy.

by bronco112 on Mar 31, 2010 9:21 PM MDT reply actions   1 recs

Maybe, I just worry about his size at safety

I don’t know if he will be durable to last 16 games consistently.

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by Broncoman on Mar 31, 2010 9:53 PM MDT reply actions  

If Berry or Thomas are

available the Broncos will be hard pressed to pass on either of them. If you read their scouting reports you will see a lot of comments that you see in a corners scouting reports. From Walter Fooball:

Strengths:
 Highly productive and consistent, Centerfielder with great range, Eats space quickly, Very good recovery speed and acceleration, Nice all-around athlete, Sure tackler in run support, Love his instincts, Doesn’t let play get behind him, Takes solid angles, Ballhawk – great on pursuit INTs, Does a good job of reading QB’s eyes, Low, smooth backpedal, Has nice route recognition, Quick hips, Great in man coverage, Playmaker, High ceiling

Weaknesses:
Occasionally gets out of control; goes for big hit, Smaller player – will his body hold up in pros?, Late in run diagnosage, Will have limitations in run support at next level

Sounds more like a corner then a safety to me. I think both of these guys will make very good corners at the NFL level.

I am not on the Pouncey bandwagon at 11. Pouncey is a HUGE reach at 11. People used to hate Shannys drafts because he was big on reaching based on need and not taking the BPA approach. Most Bronco fans used to grill Shanny for drafting like this and now a ton of people on this site want McDaniels to do the same thing. McDaniels should do the smart thing and take the BPA regardless of need. You can find good Guards and centers in the the 2nd round or later. Pouncey is a very good player but he is not a top 20 player in a draft like this with so much depth. There will enough players that are superior to Pouncey avail at 11. McD will do the right thing and take BPA.

by gnarlybroncodude on Mar 31, 2010 10:28 PM MDT reply actions  

re: Thomas at CB

I can’t see any reason he couldn’t play CB. He may project as a better fit at S but he’s not limited to that position. LINK

03/19/2010 – TOP RATED NFL DRAFT SCOUT CORNERBACKS: *Earl Thomas, Texas, 5-10, 208, 1: He entered the draft as a redshirt sophomore after setting a school record with eight interceptions last season while playing safety. He then bulked up from his college weight of 195 pounds to 208 at the combine, possibly in response to concerns voiced by scouts about his ability to hold up at the next level, where he might project better as a cornerback. “The extra weight helps if I’m going to be in the box banging heads out there,” Thomas says of the prospect of remaining at safety. He was a ballhawking center fielder, leading the nation with 24 passes broken up last year and collecting 143 tackles since 2008. He has the speed, instincts and attitude to play safety, but also owns the hips, man-to-man skills and ability to high-point balls in flight that could make him a formidable corner. But his college career wasn’t perfect. He was the victim when Texas Tech’s Michael Crabtree made the game-winning catch against Texas in 2008, and he missed several tackles in the BCS title game loss to Alabama. – Frank Cooney, The Sports Xchange, NFLDraftScout.com/CBS Sports/USA TODAY

no goats, no glory.

by Colinski on Apr 1, 2010 1:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

Great, we'll have 5 elite safteys over the next 5 years and crappy lines.

I’m kidding, I get what your sayin. And football teams are built in rounds 2-5, however, I think we should draft elite linemen first…..then worry about BPA when the lines are built. But I won’t be screamin at the tv when/if either of these two are drafted by the broncos.

by bronco112 on Mar 31, 2010 11:10 PM MDT reply actions  

Sometimes the draft is being lucky enough to be in the right spot.

Eric Berry and Earl Thomas are fasinating specimen’s of football players. They would both be in the top 5 in the draft if teams didn’t have greater needs at different positions. Drafting a Safety in the top 10 is even a riskier business. There is a reason why teams draft in the top 10 and if they didn’t trade up to that position, then they were terrible at certain positions along both sides of the line. Usually those positions are quarterback, defensive linemen or offensive line. Teams that don’t address those positions early often keep losing at the same level. if we see a team taking a Safety at one of these positions we can pobably see them picking early again next year. Teams that make sound decisions will often rebound from their past. In a real world Berry and Thomas should be there at 11, but the draft has often shown us that some teams don’t live in the real world. Thiers is a fantasy world enamored to a prospect that won’t impact the teams needs.

by bfree2bronc on Apr 1, 2010 11:11 AM MDT reply actions  

Eric Berry or no safety for me

Berry blows me away. He should blow everyone away. I’d scream my lungs out for joy if we somehow got him. That said, we have very good depth at safety for at least the next year, and reasonably for 2 years in Dawk, Hill, McBath (who was exceptional at times last season), and Bruton (who could stay on the roster just as a special teams player).

IF Thomas can play some corner as well, and do it better than the guys we already have, it’d be an excellent pick that would most likely solidify us for the next 7-9 years. I love Thomas… But is he a better value pick than McClain, Weatherspoon or a trade down for Pouncey or Iupati considering our depth at his position?

I think there’s a reason the FO hasn’t worked out that many safeties or d-backs. Jackson and McCourty were the only ones as far as I know. I do think we’ll take a d-back in the draft, but not in the first – unless it’s Berry. Hey, one can dream right?

by RockyMountainHigh on Apr 8, 2010 2:16 AM MDT reply actions  

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