Free Agency Night Number two OPEN THREAD
by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 8:06 PM MST
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Hey all, I just thought this was such a great success last night, we could all benefit by keeping each other posted, interacting, and doing it again.
The Broncos brought in J.J. Arrington, Nathan Jones, and Justin Bannan today. It seems like Jones and Arrington will make an impact in a more limited role, but Bannan is fully expected to be our starting nose tackle.
It was also reported that on the other side of the line, we brought in Tony Pashos and Rex Hadnot for visits. Reports were that Hadnot was close to a deal with the Broncos, but that nothing was imminent. Seems like the dude should take the deal to be our starting center...
Pashos would likely have been used in a much more limited role, and there were reports he would test the free agent waters some more with Washington. Such a large man likely would not be a great fit in the zone blocking scheme Big Mike is likely to employ out east, but Pashos has his reasons (cold, hard cash).
The Broncos are also said to be interested in (and one of two finalists for) former Patriots DL Jarvis Green and former Ravens DL Dwan Edwards. Both would be very nice additions.
Let the open thread begin!
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Bigger. Better?
I like the addition of Bannan. Denver’s D needs to find a way to stop the run. But with the high altitude, I wonder if bigger is going to be better. At least Bannan played in Colorado prior to signing with the Broncos. He knows what he’s in for.
I agree troy
I’ve heard that Bannan is a very underrated player. Even Greg Rosenthall over at PFT thought it was a nice, cap friendly add. Mike Lombardi called it his value pick of the day on NFLN. McX is a smart machine
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 8:13 PM MST up reply actions
Sayre, You're the Draft Guy
If Seattle takes BMarsh and if we get the 6th pick – do we keep it or do we trade it away? If we keep it, does Xanders, Kidd, and McD take a QB?
Depends
The 1st round I’m digging if we get 6 is McClain and Dez Bryant. I could easily see them taking Bradford if St. Louis foolishly passes on him. Last word was St. Louis wanted McCoy, but who knows. They are stupid.
Not that McCoy’s not good…I would lean towards McClain, Bradford almost for sure if he falls, or trade down.
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 8:29 PM MST up reply actions
Probably not much...
But again, it’s the Rams
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 8:33 PM MST up reply actions
If we were going to draft a QB,
why haven’t we released Simms? I’d like to see all our quarterbacks with another year in the system. Including Simms.
"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy."
Martin Luther King Jr.
I asked John the same question yesterday
just because we dont have to yet. Options options options is what he stressed me ;). They can release him anytime
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Safety
I would say we haven’t dropped Simms just in case the option for a better QB doesn’t show itself. There’s no guarantee that we would pick up another pick, and I would guess that there are other priorities over QB if we don’t get another pick. Therefore, I believe it is probably the safe/smart move to keep Simms until we don’t need him.
Not usually
I was involved with a few cases where that wasn’t true, but with athletes, failure to acclimatize is relatively rare
Don't say rebuild - say reload...
What up with the Nathan Jones pick up?
I thought we addressed our secondary depth in last years draft and free agency.
I love it
With Ty Law out, we had a void at CB. Tony Carter will compete in camp with Barrett, in all likelihood, for the final DB spot. Jones can play CB and S, and he is also a valuable STer too.
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 8:26 PM MST up reply actions
With all of our starters over 30...
…we face a ot of retirements or skill downturns over the next two to three years. We’ll need a DB or two every year for the next two to three years to keep up. (We failed to stagger ages in the past, and are paying for it now).
Plus, not every new guy will work out, so we can’t really bring in guys at the rate we expect to lose them. We need to build a pool now. The SAFs last year (plus Smith) helped, but we also plugged in some vets to keep us afloat.
Jones isn’t spectacular, but he’s solid and dependable. He’ll buy us some time during the DBs transition until we can bring up a young class of talent. I think it was a good move.
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"I presume that all of you here think me worthy of pity. But Great God, when I think I was on the point of doing nothing, I consider myself worthy of envy." Jean Valjean, Hugo's Les Miserables
by Steve Nichols on Mar 5, 2010 8:37 PM MST up reply actions
This
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 8:42 PM MST up reply actions
This?
lol
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by Steve Nichols on Mar 5, 2010 8:44 PM MST up reply actions
Sorry, it stopped loading my comment so I assumed it didn't work!
Haha, I was going to finish it by saying This: I agree with. Haha
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 8:47 PM MST up reply actions
Oh.
That!
lol
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by Steve Nichols on Mar 5, 2010 8:51 PM MST up reply actions
absolutely BUT
all this mediocre talent we’re looking at. How about a star or two please? Where’s Pat spending his money these days?
by Whidbey Bronco on Mar 6, 2010 12:51 AM MST up reply actions
How do you know if these guys are mediocre talent
Some people just amaze me. Bannan was stuck behind arguably the best NT in the league and when he had to step in they did not miss a beat. Maybe the guy needed a chance to prove himself.
What Star or Two do you want? There really are not stars in FA this year because of the CBA. We did not really sign any stars but Dawkins last year and we signed some really good players last year. You do not always need Stars to win games. How many stars did NO defense have this year besides Shaper. Their Front 7 had no big names but they got the job done. People and their love for the stars.
by gnarlybroncodude on Mar 6, 2010 1:08 AM MST up reply actions
Here' what I'm thinking.
It is a two step approach.
First, instead of signing major stars (which cost a lot, and mean less money and talent for other positions), I think the team is going for an approach that says “We will not go for stars at any position, but we won’t have weak players at any spot either”.
The next step is the best part. Despite not going for big names (which means we spread the talent around the team), we are STILL going to have players that emerge as stars. Remember that Marshall wasn’t a starter when he came to Denver, and one never knows how a draft pick will turn out. Also, FAs can radicaly change their quality of play from one team to the next, depending on system, coaching style, and fellow players.
For my two cents, I think Bannan and Jones are both very good players. They may not be stars, but they are also both well above average. If Jones doesn’t start, it is because he behind Bailey and Goodman. But he’s good enough to be a starter. Bannan played behind Ngata, so he didn’t get many chances. Still, when he HAS played he’s looked really good. I expect him to start right away. Arrington is the only guy I give a mixed grade to. He’s very good at what he does (screens, returns), but I question his health and his ability to run the gut. He may be a situational player for us, and besides, even if he doesn’t work out, the risk and contract are on the low side.
Don’t get me wrong; it IS thrilling to get a star. Dawkins is a great example. But it may be better to get two or three guys for longer, each of whom plays very well. Once the team has ne real weaknesses, then we can shoot for major players (in my opinion). The hard part to keep in mind is that this approach doesn’t mean that we won’t have stars. It just means that the stars will emerge from inside the team instead of being brought in.
Formerly known as Hoosierteacher or just HT.
"I presume that all of you here think me worthy of pity. But Great God, when I think I was on the point of doing nothing, I consider myself worthy of envy." Jean Valjean, Hugo's Les Miserables
by Steve Nichols on Mar 6, 2010 4:41 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Player development
McDaniels brought in teachers across the board when coaching personnel was hired. It makes sense to me that the second year under these coaches will see significant improvement across the board in player development as well. EVERYONE was new to virtually EVERYTHING last year so the potential for everyone to improve is quite high. Some of the players, like Chris Baker and Alphonso Smith, may leapfrog last year’s performance as there is no way one can avoid the fact they were learning an entirely new system AND were rookies.
Personally, I cannot way to see the effects of teaching, time, and the addition of new depth throughout the team. Come on training camp, sigh!
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by BroncoCUbuffs on Mar 6, 2010 5:26 AM MST up reply actions
Nothing as of now
Edwards was in Seattle at last word, Pashos was here but did not sign, and Hadnot was reportedly getting deep into discussions, and a contract was likely but not imminent
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 8:27 PM MST up reply actions
Any more information on Marshall?
I think I’m having sellers remorse. I’m glad we’re getting bigger on the DL, but hopefully we can start addressing the OL soon.
"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy."
Martin Luther King Jr.
In good time
At last word, Hadnot discussions were progressing nicely. That would give us a starting five of
Clady, Olsen, Hadnot, Kuper, Harris
Back to the best? Maybe.
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 8:29 PM MST up reply actions
at worst
That will be the Oline but someone else can still come in and create competition. I’d like to see Kuper as primary backup to both Gaurds and Tackles.
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by 3nS on Mar 5, 2010 8:53 PM MST up reply actions
Hadnot
would be my choice for sure.
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Same
I would love to add both, but it’s bugging me that I haven’t heard anything for a while…no news is good news? Maybe.
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 8:52 PM MST up reply actions
I might get ridiculed for this...
but I’d like to get Kassim Osgood. wr/kr and a former Charger
"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy."
Martin Luther King Jr.
I like that idea
it was said by the DP that we would look at a WR, so that’s a possibility
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 8:35 PM MST up reply actions
I love that idea, Osgood is a beast for sure. If we lose Marshall, I think he can replace him as our big target receiver, just 80% as good.
Just thought that I'd chime in
Osgood is a great special teams player (NOT a returner, though) but he’s not a WR. Big or not, he doesn’t have the hands. I think that he had all of 1 catch last year, and that was emergency duty. Good player, but not what people think that he is.
Don't say rebuild - say reload...
+1
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Matt Prater, pre-2009 season: Despised, lambasted, Josh McDaniels is derided for not replacing him.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Mar 6, 2010 12:44 AM MST up reply actions
Good option as well...what would that mean for Andra?
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 8:35 PM MST up reply actions
Two unnamed teams interested in TO
How’s about this…Broncos sign TO, trade Marshall, draft Dez. talk about drama!
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No TO
I’m pretty sure TO would not fit well in McD’s locker room. Bryant Dez sets off my spidey-senses. What went down with him and Deion Sanders?
NO NO TO!
I liked the Loyd re-signing. I think he still has some deep threat ability.
"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy."
Martin Luther King Jr.
Alot of people said the same about Moss,
before the Patriots got ahold of him. Maybe McD would think he could make it work out.
"It's the first time that I've probably ever seen a 260 pound back run into a free safety and go flat on his back, I mean it was exciting." ~John Elway
by jibbons on Mar 5, 2010 9:25 PM MST via mobile up reply actions
Doesn't Dez Bryant have Michael Crabtree's agent?
If so get far, far away.
by NYCBronx on Mar 5, 2010 9:11 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Reading the PFW Draft Preview...
…feature on Bryant makes me a wee bit skeptical that the Broncos will even consider him. He’s almost a BM clone intangibles wise, right down to the impulsive and violent temper.
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by PredominantlyOrange on Mar 5, 2010 9:44 PM MST up reply actions
My overall take.
No spectacular pick ups, but all of them solid. No bad moves.
1) Arrington RB – a receiving RB, he is best used in screens and STs returns. Doesn’t solve our short yardage issues, could be a health risk. If he stays healthy, I think he does well for us spelling either of our starters. If he can pick up his pass blocking skills, he could get much more time. (C+)
2) Bannon DE – I expect Bannon to play at LDE (though he is versatile). Solid run stopper, and can take up space to assist the LBs. (B)
3) Jones CB – Not a ball hawker, so he won’t excite fans with INTs. However, he’ll keep plays in front of him, and make solid tackles. Makes very few mistakes. Dependable. Buys the Broncos time to build up a pool of young talent at the DB positions. (B)
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"I presume that all of you here think me worthy of pity. But Great God, when I think I was on the point of doing nothing, I consider myself worthy of envy." Jean Valjean, Hugo's Les Miserables
by Steve Nichols on Mar 5, 2010 8:43 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
I agree with all your grades
though I’d almost be inclined to either grade Arrington slightly higher, or give that one an incomplete. I’m assuming he’s healthy now, and if he is he may be a steal. But we want to see how he looks first. I like the other guys a lot.
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I'll be thrilled if we score "B" at every move the rest of FA.
We don’t have to spend wildly, or to get big names to be good this year. As long as we bring in good players who are reliable at what they do, and get rid of weaknesses, we can field a very good team.
Formerly known as Hoosierteacher or just HT.
"I presume that all of you here think me worthy of pity. But Great God, when I think I was on the point of doing nothing, I consider myself worthy of envy." Jean Valjean, Hugo's Les Miserables
by Steve Nichols on Mar 5, 2010 8:50 PM MST up reply actions
I think our OL determines how we well we address
our short yardage issue. IMO, Moreno can excel here if we improve the interior of our line…
Committing random acts of Brandon since 2006...
First reports are that the Broncos are planing to start Bannan at NT
Don't say rebuild - say reload...
I'm not sure how that can be the case before training camp...
I’m sure he’ll get first crack, but this team strikes me as an “earn it, win it” type of team.
Committing random acts of Brandon since 2006...
I think most people see him at NT.
Unless other changes come (draft and FA, both of which are likely), right now I would see him at LDE. He’s a natural run stopper, and McBean is more a keeper than Peterson. Bannan is also able to play NT and DE indifferently. Of our three current DLmen, I think Fields and McBean are safest.
I wouldn’t bet the house on it. It just looks that way to me so far. (I’m still proud of out-smarting the MSM on other pre-season moves, such as the move of DJ from ROLB to RILB).
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"I presume that all of you here think me worthy of pity. But Great God, when I think I was on the point of doing nothing, I consider myself worthy of envy." Jean Valjean, Hugo's Les Miserables
by Steve Nichols on Mar 6, 2010 4:46 AM MST up reply actions
I was wondering
If part of this move for Bannan won’t also allow us to ship fields off to Miami for a pick. Otherwise I think you’re right about him playing LDE.
Scheffler update
An update from his agent’s point of view, on KDVR. Is it just me or does his agent, yep, Bus Cook, sound like a total whiner here?
“It is what it is. I am not still sure whether they want Tony or not. Obviously they don’t value him the way they value their other guys. Elvis Dumervil, Kyle Orton and Brandon Marshall were all drafted lower than my client, but tendered at a higher level,” said Cook.
Maybe it’s because, I don’t know, Dumervil, Orton and Marshall have all been far more productive starters? Who cares where he was drafted? Should the Broncos have paid Marcus Nash more too?
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants country, and damned proud of it.
Maybe
Bus Cook’s attitude rubs off on his clients.
Maybe Bus graduated
from Fail University, like Clayton did. You know F.U.?
Like Joe Medina’s sig line.
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
That's ridiculous.
I think that if we trade both Marshall and Scheffler it’ll be because McDaniels and Xanders want to get rid of Bus Cook! jk :)
"When you put on that jersey, the name on the front is more important than the name on the back." - "Miracle".
"Winning means you're willing to go longer, work harder, and give more than anyone else." - Vince Lombardi.
Maybe the Broncos can trade
him for a pick in the upcoming amateur agent draft. Or some magic beans! Whatever works.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants country, and damned proud of it.
Bus Cook
is the BANE of the Broncos. Get this guy OFF of our map!
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 8:48 PM MST up reply actions
Has Sheffler had any action from other teams?
Didn’t McDaniels say that he would love to have Cook back, I mean Sheffler back?
"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy."
Martin Luther King Jr.
he also said he would love Marshall back.
im sure people are calling on him, not sure his worth though.
thoughts...
Shannon Sharpe revolutionized the TE positioned and made it really sexy. When you add the Tony “the tiger” Gonzolez, Dallas Clark and Jason Whitten to the mix and we get all worked up over TEs. I love a pass-catching TE, but really thing they are a dime a dozen. Kevin Boss has proven that. Drafting Chris Cooley (Utah State) proves you can draft these guys in the latter rounds. All that to say, address the position of needs: OL, DL, etc…
Committing random acts of Brandon since 2006...
I wouldn't mind the next Mark Bavaro.
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
lol, me too.
"All by their heads, he places crowns."
Matt Prater, pre-2009 season: Despised, lambasted, Josh McDaniels is derided for not replacing him.
Matt Prater, post-2009 season: Loved, praised, everone forgets the time when they called Josh McDaniels an idiot for not replacing him.
by Tempestuous Binary on Mar 6, 2010 12:51 AM MST up reply actions
Hahahaha...
Maybe it’s because, I don’t know, Dumervil, Orton and Marshall have all been far more productive starters? Who cares where he was drafted? Should the Broncos have paid Marcus Nash more too?
This!
"All by their heads, he places crowns."
Matt Prater, pre-2009 season: Despised, lambasted, Josh McDaniels is derided for not replacing him.
Matt Prater, post-2009 season: Loved, praised, everone forgets the time when they called Josh McDaniels an idiot for not replacing him.
by Tempestuous Binary on Mar 6, 2010 12:48 AM MST up reply actions
Any news on the Marshall front?
been busy most of the day, did read we may get the 6th overall pick?…is this true or will they work out a trade.
could be either
but the more likely scenario appears to be working out a trade
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 8:55 PM MST up reply actions
man the 6th pick would be nice, cept i dont see a player we need there.
Though it could be a nice trade option if a team like the jets from last year want to trade half their draft for a QB
How's about this
McClain and Dez in the first?
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 8:59 PM MST up reply actions
McClain yes, Dez no
"I got a ring, too. It says Love. Think about THAT."
"EVERYBODY LOVE EVERYBODY!!!"
6 is way overplaying for what McClain can do.
Bryant at 11? Maybe…
Don't say rebuild - say reload...
Really, Really
Don’t want Dez Bryant.
Especially if we can pick up Jacoby Ford in round 2.
I really like that kid for some reason I can’t put my finger on.
Why does Madden suck at ranking the Broncos so much?
How about Berry and McClain?
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by kentuckybronco on Mar 6, 2010 8:54 AM MST up reply actions
Seattle can have their pick
of the second best Ot at 6. I think it is more important for them than Denver. #14 and #40?
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by 3nS on Mar 5, 2010 9:02 PM MST up reply actions
so what are the estimated figures???
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Get Hadnot!!!
Winners and Losers of Day 1 of FA
Winners:
1) Chicago Bears
- Julius Peppers and Chester Taylor were huge gets for the Bears. A premier pass rusher and a solid rotation back from a division rival. The only thing they didn’t address was their woeful O-line. Good luck C. Taylor running behind that line.
2) (tie) Miami Dolphins/N.Y. Giants
- Dolphins pick up a great ILB in Dansby, maybe allowing McClain to slide on down to 11…and the Giants solidified their secondary with Rolle. Possibly doesn’t speak well for the health of Kenny Phillips.
3) you guessed it…Denver BRONCOS!!!
- Justin Bannan and Nate Jones were solid pick ups. Bannan can help a rush defense that faltered around the end of the year, and Jones will replace aging Ty Law and push Alphonso Smith for the nickel-corner job.
Losers:
1) Arizona Cardinals
- Having lost the middle of their defense in Karlos Dansby and Antrel Rolle, and possibly losing Rolle’s replacement in Matt Ware, plus the trade of Anquan Boldin, the Cardinals have the look of a team that is rebuilding, even though they were in the Super Bowl 2 yrs ago.
2) Detroit Lions
- Having given Nate Burleson #1 WR money, signing Kyle Vanden Bosch, and trading for Corey Williams, some might think that they had a good FA period. I’m not buying it. It’s almost as if players go to Detroit and their playing careers take the same type of dive as GM stock. They better not mess up that #2 pick, because if they can’t join the rest of the NFL by the end of the 2010 season, maybe the Commish should really think about contraction.
Anyhow, that’s my view of Day 1.
"I got a ring, too. It says Love. Think about THAT."
"EVERYBODY LOVE EVERYBODY!!!"
by Zogernaut on Mar 5, 2010 8:57 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
Cardinals
Those guys went from first to third place today, IMO. Well, plus the day Warner retired. That franchise is back in rebuilding mode, and 2010 could be a fugly season for them. I can’t wait until we pick off Leinart four times!
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 9:00 PM MST up reply actions
Depending on how well St. Louis does in the draft and the rest of FA, AZ may have went from 1st to worst...
"I got a ring, too. It says Love. Think about THAT."
"EVERYBODY LOVE EVERYBODY!!!"
Eh...
The Rams are pitiful. Haha
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 9:04 PM MST up reply actions
Bottom line...
The Cards off-season is giving hope the the Chicken Hawks. If they pull the trigger on Marshall, I believe Carrol is trying to set the tone with a better than expected first season (hell, anything is better than his first go-round).
Committing random acts of Brandon since 2006...
Too true
But AZ is led by Matt Leinart. Ouch
"I got a ring, too. It says Love. Think about THAT."
"EVERYBODY LOVE EVERYBODY!!!"
poor Cards...
it was fun while it lasted…he has shown me nothing…if I were the Cards, I would have forced Kurt to play at gun point (just kidding folks!)… :)
Committing random acts of Brandon since 2006...
Yes, I didn't know Bidwell had it in him
To actually attempt to concentrate and spend the money to field a competitive team
I wouldn't write off Leinart
…yet anyway.
Getting beat out of a starting job by a HOFer is not the sign of a terrible player.
He was fed to the wolves a lot as a rookie, then got hurt and was replaced by Warner. It is very possible he actually learned sometohing sitting on the bench the lsat few years….
Or, he learned nothing, has no running game to keep teams from teeing off on him, and a defense that will put him in repeated bad situations… yep, could get ugly.
I still don't see how signing Peppers ans Taylor fix 26 interceptions and no protection..
Are you NOT entertained!?!? -Maximus
Thoughts...
Winners:
CHI: I love Peppers when he chooses to play. Chester Taylor doesn’t solve their OL problems.
MIA: If Chad Henne develops, watch out! Good signings.
DEN: they’ve got a plan. any business analysis reveals that the Broncos have a plan and are executing it accordingly. Very happy.
Losers: Could not agree more.
Committing random acts of Brandon since 2006...
PS: Burleson?
How the heck does this dude keep making money? I want his agent. That guy could make me millions!
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 9:02 PM MST up reply actions
Not Sure the Bears are Winners
The NFL is all about winning this year but that’s not realistic. IMO, a great GM/Coach takes a long view. This years CBA means an uncapped year. So teams are allowed to spend what they want — on both the low end and the high end. But next year, who knows. We don’t even know if there will be football in 2011.
If the NFL goes the way of the NHL, it’s likely that a lowered cap will be put in place. Big spending this year, could handicap a team for many years to come.
I like Denver’s approach. I have since Josh and Brian came on board.
The Bears
They need Offensive Line, and unfortunately this free agent class is weak. These three signings will mask the fact that they will largely have to neglect adding a good, talented offensive lineman this offseason. They will be 3rd place again, barring injuries to the Vikes and Packers.
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 9:05 PM MST up reply actions
Not sure I would agree with the Chicago being in the winners column...
Lots of big money talent does not neccessarily lend itself to a winning season… or even getting better for that matter. Those guys had bigger holes to fill, and they still have those exact same holes.
I say they spent alot… got big names… and might have cost themselves big time.
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by HillisRanUover on Mar 5, 2010 9:04 PM MST up reply actions
Personally, I think they won in FA because of who they got, and who they took away from their division rivals...
But, that doesn’t mean that they’ll be any good. C***** can’t throw picks to Peppers on Sundays, only in practice…lol
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I do not think the Bears are winners
because they still need a lot of help on the Oline and at WR. They have so many holes. Peppers is nice but he is also 30. I have always liked Chester Taylor
by gnarlybroncodude on Mar 5, 2010 10:15 PM MST up reply actions
I'm just saying that the Bears won the FA period first day, not that they are going to run the NFL for years to come.
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"EVERYBODY LOVE EVERYBODY!!!"
Why do the Bears need help out WR
And dos that mean Denver is going to need help as well? Once Marshall is gone our WR corps isnt going to look that pretty..
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Even Without Marshall
Our WR Core is way better then Chicagos
by gnarlybroncodude on Mar 6, 2010 9:26 AM MST up reply actions
TBD
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You sure?
Chicago doesn’t have much at WR, right now, and they didn’t sign any big name receiver in FA. Their first pick in the draft is in round 3. So, idk…
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by kentuckybronco on Mar 6, 2010 10:57 AM MST up reply actions
They're young
But they certainly looked like they could play. Especially as the season went on.
Plus, who knows what Mike Martz will have them doing this year.
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Bus is a D Bag
Tendering scheffler with a lower pick only helps his client attract interest from other teams. Bus should quit his job as an agent and take up tv journalism. Spin doctor at work, and no I am not refering to the 90s grundge band. Actually, it’s not even a good strategy, Bus should be singing the Broncos praises to make other teams worried we are working to re-sign scheffler. Like I said, what a d bag.
by OrangeandBlue27 on Mar 5, 2010 8:57 PM MST via mobile reply actions
marshall trade possibilities
Why not get our 14 back from Seattle and a third or fourth rounder instead of the 6th pick? It will be cheaper in the long run and could provide more flexibility to trade down if necessary.
by FtCoNative on Mar 5, 2010 8:59 PM MST via mobile reply actions
That's more likely
though they don’t have a third this year, so a future pick or a fourth and fifth seem more likely. Maybe a player since it seems McD would want a proven player in exchange as well as a high draft pick.
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 9:01 PM MST up reply actions
i could see Sims or Branch
hopefully Sims, Branch would need to come with a renegotiated contract
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thats exactly why they should give us their 6
Keep their 4th and it will cost them less. PLus they could be walking away with MArshall and a solid player at 14.
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sorry.. 4th round
They can keep as many of their own picks and still walk away with 2 great players in the first round.
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Ayodele
he’s played a 3-4 before. Recently in fact.
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 9:01 PM MST up reply actions
looked like he had a pretty decent season too.
3rd leading tackler on the Phins this season
By the way
I don’t get all the hate being laid on Alphonso Smith. He was drafted high—not his fault by the way—and he was hobbled fairly early in the season with an injury. Before that I thought he looked pretty good playing nickel. I say give him a chance. My guess is that the CB signing today had less to do with Smith and more to do with Champ entering the last year of his contract and Goodman being over 30.
by OrangeandBlue27 on Mar 5, 2010 9:02 PM MST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Yes
This is a fantastic point. Jones was not brought in to take Smith’s job…This year. He was brought in for depth as well as insurance if Champ is not retained next year.
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 9:03 PM MST up reply actions
I don't either
I find it tiresome, unfair and repetitive. He’s being punished for the trade itself, which isn’t fair imho. And graded out way too early.
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+100 for logic to OB & UD
Most people don’t stop and consider the fact that the trade terms under which Alphonso Smith was obtained is irrelevant to how he developed. The fact that people cite the trade terms for disliking him as a player reveals the irrational nature of their opinion.
no goats, no glory.
by Colinski on Mar 5, 2010 11:36 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Couldn't agree more Colinski
It’s one thing to state an opinion but another to color it with emotionalism and name calling.
Alphonso may indeed end up a bust, but then again, he could end up all-pro. Time will offer the answer and all of our opinionating will not change that. Of course, supporting his development and giving him a reasonable opportunity to prove himself is our job, if one is a true Bronco fan.
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by BroncoCUbuffs on Mar 6, 2010 5:39 AM MST up reply actions
+1
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Hm...
Not sure who we’re having in for visits yet…I would like to see us add Hadnot still tonight, and hopefully bring in Dwan tomorrow.
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 9:06 PM MST up reply actions
Anybody heard any news about Hadnot's visit?
Obviously we haven’t signed him… just wondering how things went.
"So tell me what happened."
"Well, the last thing I remember is seeing this flash of Blue and Orange and the #22... then everything just went black..."
At last word
Contract negotiations were going well…perhaps it’s in the final stages?
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 9:08 PM MST up reply actions
Sweet.... He sounds like a quailty pick-up
"So tell me what happened."
"Well, the last thing I remember is seeing this flash of Blue and Orange and the #22... then everything just went black..."
by HillisRanUover on Mar 5, 2010 9:09 PM MST up reply actions
Former Browns center
He missed the early season, came back and played very well, he’s bigger than many centers and a run mauler.
Don't say rebuild - say reload...
I had not heard of Hadnot
So thanks for filling me in. If he’s big and chew people up, then I’m all for it.
Odd move on Pennington's part
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 9:09 PM MST up reply actions
Interesting enough
According to ESPNs point value chart. #6 is worth 1600. #14 is worth 1100. Difference of 500 points. pick #40 is worth 500. So there you go #14 and #40 or #6.
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Boldin to Ravens - need to keep Marshall now
I thought if we lost Marshall, we could replace him with Boldin. Not to happen. And Ravens gave very little for Boldin, too: #3+#4-#5.
he is travelling to Seattle tomorroow though...
And all indications are, Denver will not match any offer. We can hope
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 9:13 PM MST up reply actions
ya i know
but we really can’t do much with the #6 pick, unless we lure a team to do what the jets did last year
That's where you take McClain
or trade down
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 9:16 PM MST up reply actions
Several other teams seem to be in the Marshall sweepstakes
Great. Might drive up the price. That could work.
Don't say rebuild - say reload...
Saw that too
I wonder if the DP made that up to drive up his value? Is that illegal? Haha
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 9:22 PM MST up reply actions
lol
Did you also catch the bit about Marshall turning down 9.5 mil per year last summer?
Don't say rebuild - say reload...
HAHA
Marshall might play up in Canada if it meant 9.5 mil!
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 9:25 PM MST up reply actions
The rumor is that it was Denver and he turned it down
Rumors are just rumors, of course. If – big if – he did, he’s looking for crazy money
Don't say rebuild - say reload...
On the field
He may deserve it. Off the field, I’d be hard pressed to even guarantee him 9.5 million
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 9:29 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
That's the problem, no Q
His next suspension could be very major, and you’re still paying him. Lockout? Pay him. If someone does it, more power to them. He may have changed, but we’re heard this song before…
Don't say rebuild - say reload...
Exactly
If Seattle wants to play around with that risk, go for it. How do we replace him though? As big of a headache as he can be, he’s uber productive.
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 9:34 PM MST up reply actions
Terrell Owens
I’m telling you guys…Veteran who just wants to win a MF game! He could fill in for two years, and we draft Dez.
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 9:12 PM MST up reply actions
I said this drunkenly
About 2 months ago.
Its going to happen. Drunken logic is NEVER wrong.
Why does Madden suck at ranking the Broncos so much?
Owens is DONE
The guy cant catch a cold anymore.
Have you seen how many drops he’s had the past 2 years in DAL and BUF?
FootballOutsiders did an essay, I think in one of their Prospectus’ on signs a WR is just about finished. A big increase in drops is the #1 indicator. 30-something WRs will be scooting along at 1000yard seasons, have a year with a big number of drops, and fall off the cliff from there on out. The sample included C.Carter, J. Rice, and even our very own Rod Smith.
We shouldn’t touch TO with a 10-foot pole.
Moss did the same thing
In Oakland.
And then BOOM.
Why does Madden suck at ranking the Broncos so much?
Actually he didn't....
I could be wrong, but I don’t think that is true. He never had the big increase in drops from his previous rate.
Yes, he had lowered production overall, but that isn’t the indicator… it is very partricularly about drop-rate. And in any case, Randy Moss at the time was in his late 20s, not 30s. The indicator is about age decline, so its not surprising that the younger player still has multiple years left. TO is a dinasaur at this point.
I get the feeling some player don't want to compete for a job.
When Mcdaniels tells them that every position will be a competative, the look for an easier way/job. I think that turned Cutler off also, but its the right way to do things.
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by sbsbroncofan on Mar 5, 2010 9:11 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
I totally agree.
From day one it’s smart, tough, and physical. There were bound to be a couple holdovers that weren’t tough… coughCutlercough
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by Tempestuous Binary on Mar 6, 2010 1:10 AM MST up reply actions
cough
true but i still wish we had im….
we’ll be Hating THAT trade in a couple yeaars
by Whidbey Bronco on Mar 6, 2010 1:12 AM MST up reply actions
Who was Culter going to compete with?
Simms? We saw how that experiement worked out. Terrible use of money.
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Any word on Jarvis Green?
saw it was between us and Patriots but heard nothing more?
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"We laugh to stave off madness."
That is it for now, far as I know
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 9:12 PM MST up reply actions
What's the big deal about Jarvis Green?
He’s not starting material for us… is he?
"So tell me what happened."
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by HillisRanUover on Mar 5, 2010 9:14 PM MST up reply actions
i would prefer Dwan if i could choose
doubt we would bring in both. Green was a starter in new england. we would beat out peterson for sure
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"We laugh to stave off madness."
Same here
I would love to get Dwan. Younger, probably more expensive, but he has a higher ceiling and probably more talent to be honest
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 9:16 PM MST up reply actions
That's what I was thinking.... but I keep seeing Jarvis flash around....
I don’t see the Broncos taking both…
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by HillisRanUover on Mar 5, 2010 9:17 PM MST up reply actions
Never know I suppose
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 9:20 PM MST up reply actions
he did not make a visit to town though correct?
we would be basing it on previous performance
"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that."
"We laugh to stave off madness."
Le Kevin Smith visiting with Pats, Jarvis Green contemplating Broncos
weird
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I'll take that
“trade”!
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Jarvis Green> Le Kevin Smith
and its not close
by gnarlybroncodude on Mar 5, 2010 10:19 PM MST up reply actions
agreed that he would be the biggest name coming in
still would prefer Dwan though. Green is leaning towards being the more likely pickup i beleive
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"We laugh to stave off madness."
Make no mistake about Dwan
He and Bannan are HUGE pickups. They are very underrated, starting caliber linemen who are in the prime of their career. They are both considered to be underrated signings.
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 9:21 PM MST up reply actions
Possibly
I know Mike Lombardi did
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 9:23 PM MST up reply actions
Whos with me???, Let's Sign Hadnot
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He would start
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 9:18 PM MST up reply actions
You got McD's number?
Let’s call him up, tell him to get the friggin show on the road!
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 9:17 PM MST up reply actions
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by RiG on Mar 5, 2010 9:22 PM MST up reply actions
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by RiG on Mar 5, 2010 9:23 PM MST up reply actions
THAT GUY
fo sho
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 9:25 PM MST up reply actions
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by RiG on Mar 5, 2010 9:23 PM MST up reply actions
How 'bout Thomas Jones?
"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy."
Martin Luther King Jr.
He probably won't have interest
Our RB situation is more crowded than New York…
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 9:20 PM MST up reply actions
In college, yes
In the NFL, players tend to get ticked off haha
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 9:27 PM MST up reply actions
When Shonn Green went down against the Colts in the playoffs
It seemed that it was the end of the game for them. Jones couldn’t cut it.
Thomas Jones defies logic
His production, for the most part, has gone UP as he’s gotten older. Very strange indeed…
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thats b/c they used him to much in the begining of the season,
jets shouldn’t have used so much of those 31 year old legs so soon. He’s too expensive for us but he would be pretty good as our inside the 10 yard line goal back. Hope KM gets in better shape, he sure was huffin n’ puffin alot.
So, everyone seems pumped about Hadnot. Can anyone tell me more about this guy? I assume he’s bigger than Wiegman, and still pretty young?
Check out TJ's piece on him
from earlier today. We’ve been profiling prospective FA’s
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 9:28 PM MST up reply actions
Nothing yet
It picked up last night about 1230 CST, so going by that trend it should pick up here pretty soon. I don’t think we’re done
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 9:37 PM MST up reply actions
Thanks for this Florio
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i count three that have played for us
am i missing any
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"We laugh to stave off madness."
lol...well they didn't include Marcus Nash
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 9:52 PM MST up reply actions
Big day ahead for Broncos and Seahawks
Marshall trade could be done tomorrow, that is if a deal can be worked out. If Seattle offers Marshall a contract, they could deliberate for a week.
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So whats your gut on it?
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by PredominantlyOrange on Mar 5, 2010 9:47 PM MST up reply actions
Honestly?
He should be gone. Probably not for the 6th pick, but I think we’ll get our 14th overall pick back in some kind of package. Mock drafts will be fun lol
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 9:50 PM MST up reply actions
Once I saw he turned down...
…$9.5 per from Denver, I concluded that Denver has no intention of bringing him back. That’s a pretty strong sign he wants out and I don’t see Denver as a team that takes hostages.
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by PredominantlyOrange on Mar 5, 2010 9:54 PM MST up reply actions
It was back-loaded, as I understand it.
He wants money now.
"All by their heads, he places crowns."
Matt Prater, pre-2009 season: Despised, lambasted, Josh McDaniels is derided for not replacing him.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Mar 6, 2010 1:14 AM MST up reply actions
I wouldn't want it any other way...
…and I wouldn’t miss the irony if Denver threw a front loaded contract at him, BM blew it, and the same whiners blamed it on McD.
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by PredominantlyOrange on Mar 6, 2010 7:59 AM MST up reply actions
i dont think it will take a week for denver to not to not match the deal haha
hopefully they offer the 6th pick!
im hoping for the 14th
and either Sims or Branch
"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that."
"We laugh to stave off madness."
I hope not Branch
I would rather renegotiate with Marshall than take on his contract.
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 9:51 PM MST up reply actions
branch would have to come with new contract
agreed that we would not take on that monsterous mistake of seattles
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"We laugh to stave off madness."
Sayre these guys are killing me!!!!
Life long Bronco fan transplanted to the Seattle area. Branch is an absolute bust since coming over from the Pats. This would be a terrible package if Branch were included!
+ 1
Branch is terrible. I’d take my chances on an undrafted college FA
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They don't have a choice
if they sign Marshall to an offer sheet, they are required to surrender their own first rounder, per Mike Lombardi.
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 9:51 PM MST up reply actions
I'm not understanding the Marshal situation
Reading Bill Williamson he says he’d be shocked if Seattle gave us the 6th pick….why is that? If they sign him to an offer sheet we get it anyway. He says Seattle would try to work out a trade with the Broncos. Why would the Broncos accept anything less than that pick?
we wouldnt
we would except more than that pick, i.e. the 14th plus something
"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that."
"We laugh to stave off madness."
Yes, Bill is off base
The Broncos will not likely accept less than that pick if the Hawks don’t want to part with it. Pay up or shut up!
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 9:54 PM MST up reply actions
idk if this was posted in the marshall thread but
chris egan, a reporter in seattle tweeted:
"Looking more like 2nd n 4th round picks for Marshall than a first round"
now i would be really disappointed if that is all we got for marshall
That trade is not only stupid
It makes no sense. Seattle reporter=Seattle fan. Wishful thinking. If he’s right, I will demand an explanation from McD
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 9:55 PM MST up reply actions
it would unacceptable
we would needs to get Sims and Kearney in that deal
"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that."
"We laugh to stave off madness."
Kerney was contemplating retirement?
I want a first round pick. The Broncos shouldn’t have traded it in the first place
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 9:57 PM MST up reply actions
I'd be livid.
I think that’s jsut what Clayton reported though.
what sense does that make?
There is a first round tender on Marshall…wtf would Seattle think we’d accept less than that? What’s the point
this happens all the time
Teams put a first round tender on a guy and than they negotiate. Last years Cassel had a 1st round tender on him and i believe he went for a 2nd
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I'm thinking this is...
…realistic. Always have.
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by PredominantlyOrange on Mar 5, 2010 9:57 PM MST up reply actions
A 2nd and a 4th?
You figure it this way: IF Seattle wants to sign Marshall, they HAVE to surrender the 6th overall pick unless Denver agrees to a trade. Would you trade the 6th pick for the 40th and 104th? Never. Never ever.
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 10:01 PM MST up reply actions
People keep saying this.
And I don’t understand it.
Why does Madden suck at ranking the Broncos so much?
I mean..
I don’t understand how people think we can trade Marshall for less than the tender.
Why does Madden suck at ranking the Broncos so much?
nor do i
that makes very little sense…and the Seahawks have two firsts. It’d be like saying, “Here you go, here’s an All Pro receiver donation! Enjoy the greatest offseason in franchise history!”
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 10:05 PM MST up reply actions
Because real world trades...
…almost never reflect real world value. Because Denver apparently made him an insane offer and he turned it down. Because Denver has made nice an all in public, but they realize that bringing back a guy they had to suspend twice in one season might be viewed as a little hypocritical in the locker room, where team first and all that is stressed.
I’m not saying necessarily agree with it, but I don’t think the idea that Denver simply wants to cut ties is given enough weight around here.
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by PredominantlyOrange on Mar 5, 2010 10:06 PM MST up reply actions
Except this trade has rules
I have never seen an RFA trade re-negotiated for less than his worth.
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 10:08 PM MST up reply actions
no but last year
we saw a franchise tag (2 first rounders) traded with vrabel for a second round
"Some people think football is a matter of life and death. I assure you, it's much more serious than that."
"We laugh to stave off madness."
Different
The Pats HAD to franchise Cassel to get anything for him at all. He was a UFA
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 10:32 PM MST up reply actions
Plus...
…I think there is a tendency in Bronco Country to gloss over or flat out ignore the effect his off field problems and inconsistent personality have on his overall value.
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by PredominantlyOrange on Mar 5, 2010 10:08 PM MST up reply actions
Still
It was the Seahawks who came calling to Marshall, not the Broncos to the Seahawks.
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 10:09 PM MST up reply actions
Here's hoping there's another team...
…to force Seattle’s hand. If not, and Denver wants rid of Marshall as much as Marshall apparently wants rid of Denver, Seattle ends up in the driver’s seat.
We’ll know when we know, I guess.
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by PredominantlyOrange on Mar 5, 2010 10:15 PM MST up reply actions
Per the DP
There are multiple teams who have called about Marshall
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 10:15 PM MST up reply actions
They could be asking if Denver is willing to take something...
…less than a first.
This is a guy that is a mid-range traffic violation away from an indefinite suspension.
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by PredominantlyOrange on Mar 5, 2010 10:20 PM MST up reply actions
+ 1
Good explanation.
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I don't even think that's possible
never mind whether it’s fair. Broncos placed first round tender on Marshall. I thought they get 1st rounder for him in trade, or no trade. No?
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I will be very upset
if this is all we get. we should get at least a 1st round pick for him
by gnarlybroncodude on Mar 5, 2010 10:23 PM MST up reply actions
or cut him
I’d honestly probably rather have nothing…okay maybe not
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 9:59 PM MST up reply actions
What's the oint of placing a tender on somebody
if people call you and try to get you to give it up for less…if we wanted a second we would have placed a second on him
It can be a way to start the bidding process.
The tender says we should get a 1st rounder, but it seems to me that we as fans (myself included) over-inflate the trade value of players when it comes to draft picks. Is Marshall a great WR? Sure. On the other hand, he has a knack for getting in trouble (and not just legal – remember his fight with the TV and the torn tendon?), and is a problem in the locker room and on the field (the glove incident nearly cost us a TD). While nobody should blame Marshall for what some thug did to Darrent, it is worth noting that Marshall made bad decisions even on that night. In the end, I really admire Marshall as a receiver; as an overall player with the big picture I wouldn’t give up a first round pick for him.
I think the Broncos made a shrewd move by starting the bidding at a first round offer. Remember, this is a business and the team will get what they can. If they get less, it won’t be for lack of trying.
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by Steve Nichols on Mar 6, 2010 4:55 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
yeah that tweet was the only place i saw any reference to it
i didnt really believe it either
Random thought on backup QBs
If the Niners sign David Carr, as is predicted, would Shaun Hill be of interest to the Broncos? He seems like he’d be reasonably priced, be a solid backup, isn’t super talented but is smart, winner, etc. Thoughts?
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Boldin deal sucks...wanted him
don’t the Cards have a washed up RB they can throw in a Boldin + picks for BMarsh deal?
by nolesbroncos3456 on Mar 5, 2010 10:05 PM MST reply actions
Listen up guys!
Clayton Is telling everybody up here that Marshall can be had for a second rounder and a pick in the 2011 draft. He is on the daily ESPN Seattle show and everybody takes this as gospel. Makes me kind of want to throw up in my mouth just listening to him!!!
Is he serious?
If McD lowers Marshall’s price, I will be ticked.
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 10:10 PM MST up reply actions
Seattle is not doing us a favor
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 10:10 PM MST up reply actions
What a fool
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 10:12 PM MST up reply actions
I know there's a good joke in there somewhere.
"The night is darkest just before the dawn."- Harvey Dent
HE'S TO STUPID
It would be like kicking a stray dog
He a Seattle fan?
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 10:12 PM MST up reply actions
Absolutely
He is on the local show every day and has ties to Seattle
No, he's a McDaniels hater though
from day one.
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That as well
Would love to see him eat some crow!!! We had better not give up anything less than at least a first
That makes sense. Seattle and Denver used to be in the same division.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Mar 6, 2010 1:18 AM MST up reply actions
i.e. Seattle fan is equal to being a Denver hater.
"All by their heads, he places crowns."
Matt Prater, pre-2009 season: Despised, lambasted, Josh McDaniels is derided for not replacing him.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Mar 6, 2010 1:19 AM MST up reply actions
And we listen to Clayton because why?
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Plus 20 on that question
When has this guy been right? Every time I hear about him, he’s talking nonsense.
Don't say rebuild - say reload...
Clayton is the biggest Tool at ESPN
Almost everything that comes from that guy is wrong. He never predicts anything right. Oh and he looks like a freaking Alien. I do not think that guy has ever played sports in his life
by gnarlybroncodude on Mar 5, 2010 10:24 PM MST up reply actions
E.T wannabe
rumor has it he was heavily influenced by the movie. So much so he had some work done to look more like his idol E.T.
by T.Dot_Bronco on Mar 5, 2010 10:26 PM MST up reply actions
It would not surprise me is Clayton
used to be a heavy drug user. He sure looks like he used back in the day
by gnarlybroncodude on Mar 5, 2010 10:29 PM MST up reply actions
This is who I think of, every time he speaks.
Oh, This is bound to be good
You can't, but you thought that You could
by jello44 on Mar 5, 2010 10:26 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
HAHAHAHAHA
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 10:26 PM MST up reply actions
I was wondering how long it would take for this to come out.
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Are huge Denver Bronco fans.
THEY KNEW
Why does Madden suck at ranking the Broncos so much?
Stan to Cutler: “My dad says you suck…”
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by PredominantlyOrange on Mar 6, 2010 8:04 AM MST up reply actions
Me too!
"All by their heads, he places crowns."
Matt Prater, pre-2009 season: Despised, lambasted, Josh McDaniels is derided for not replacing him.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Mar 6, 2010 1:20 AM MST up reply actions
it'll be the next award probably!
All the Cutler haters should identify themselves in a list so I’ll know each one to send CROW to…. It’s coming.
by Whidbey Bronco on Mar 6, 2010 1:30 AM MST up reply actions
Dude you should be eating a Crow
the way he played last year. If you still think he is a Franchise QB you are crazy. Dude is an average QB that has not progressed at all in 3 years. He actually has regressed. He just has a big arm which does not win you games
by gnarlybroncodude on Mar 6, 2010 9:29 AM MST up reply actions
He won 7 games on a bad team
sure he threw a lot of picks but he still woin 7 games. 1 less than Denver.
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How many of those games did he lose?
Interceptions gave away some games. Good and poor play contributed to some wins and losses. I think the INTS had more of a bearing on outcomes than anything else. I think Chicago got exactly what we gave them.
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by Steve Nichols on Mar 6, 2010 1:18 PM MST up reply actions
If Seachickens surrender the 6th (14th) pick for Brandon, that leaves us w/ firepower to move up even further
by nolesbroncos3456 on Mar 5, 2010 10:08 PM MST reply actions
I hate when players say they made a move for their family. It’s not like the players are barely putting food on the table. They get paid millions of dollars and they, “made the move for the family.”
Could be to move closer to their family
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 10:12 PM MST up reply actions
Chester Taylor's
family lives in Michigan. Wouldn’t he go to Detroit then?
by higgyhoops12 on Mar 5, 2010 10:14 PM MST up reply actions
Maybe he hates his family
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 10:16 PM MST up reply actions
lol maybe he’s full of bull and just wanted Vikings fans to not be all that mad.
by higgyhoops12 on Mar 5, 2010 10:17 PM MST up reply actions
I don't know that how much money you make is a big deal....
Players know that there are other players who make more money. A guy who makes $20k/year looks at a guy making 50k and thinks he has it made. I don’t know if you’d find many people making $50k that aren’t looking to increase their income.
To me it’s the same thing but on a larger scale. We can look at someone making $3mil and say they’ve got it made, and that that’s so much money that there’s no difference between $3mil and $5mil. Well, the difference in my mind is $2million dollars a year. Whether they’re making millions or not, people see that as $2 million dollars a year.
I understand the frustration of guys making tons of money complaining about money, but at the same time I’d be looking to maximize my salary as well.
Time to get the Seahawks back
For one of McDs rookie mistakes.
Why does Madden suck at ranking the Broncos so much?
Lol
Isn’t this Carroll’s second rodeo?
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 10:13 PM MST up reply actions
Carrol is going to be an EPIC FAIL
as an NFL head coach. The guy is too rah rah. That does not work in the NFL. He should have stayed at USC. He is a college coach not an NFL Coach
by gnarlybroncodude on Mar 5, 2010 10:26 PM MST up reply actions
Carrol might be an epic fail
but dude is smart: get paid fat cash, walk away from a college program that might face violations and then return to college when it’s all said and done and get paid again.
Committing random acts of Brandon since 2006...
With a first round tender they have to give us a first round pick,
in that case the only thing that can be “traded” or changed is what first round pick it is, 6th ot 14th. Calm down guys. Also, this is the first I’ve heard of us offering some money to Marshall. Is that true and he turned us down? How much? Source?
i dont think they have to offer a first round pick
if denver agrees to a trade then it can be for whatever they want.
And saying?
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 10:18 PM MST up reply actions
Schefter is a baller
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 10:19 PM MST up reply actions
Gosh I love Schefter
He is the only one who can pull off the ju-fro, fade, AND flat top in the same hair-do
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 10:21 PM MST up reply actions
LMAO
Classic and full of win
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by Choochoobonewagon on Mar 6, 2010 1:01 AM MST up reply actions
Seahawks
need to get Marshall because Houshmanzadeh and Branch are 30+ and they lost whatever his name is to Detroit.
Match made in heaven because of Bates.
by higgyhoops12 on Mar 5, 2010 10:20 PM MST up reply actions
Seattle keeps grabbing WRs so
we’ll see what happens here if this scenario plays out…….and we get our own pick back.
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Someone help me out here.
I wrote to him about his comment about the 2nd and 4th rnd picks instead of a 1st and this was his response:
ChrisEgan5
@craigary they could possibly work a deal with the broncos, rumor has it, denver may not want to pay the high price of a first rounder
methinks he doesn’t understand what he’s talking about but how do I clarify?
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Ask him how dumb he thinks the Broncos are
the Broncos could get the 6th pick and trade down if they don’t want to pay the money, or they could miss their pick multiple times. They are not going to lower his price. It’s a ridiculous notion.
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 10:20 PM MST up reply actions
If they wanted a MF second round pick
They would have MF asked for one! Haha
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 10:23 PM MST up reply actions
SAYRE I AGREE COMPLETELY.
Who Holds all the cards now. The Broncos better not blink first
- players salary is a lot bigger than #14’s
by higgyhoops12 on Mar 5, 2010 10:20 PM MST up reply actions
tell him he's ass backwards
it’s Seattle that has to pay the high price…Denver has to decide whether or not to match it…..also tell him I’ve got some real estate in Afganistan that he could have for a million dollars
by T.Dot_Bronco on Mar 5, 2010 10:21 PM MST up reply actions
K I basically told him that
in slightly nicer words, lol. ;-)
My tweet:
Thx. Key word is ‘rumor.’ With 1st round tender they have to give Broncos 1st rd pick. Only thing that can b changed: which 1st.
Then he asked me for thoughts on Marshall and I said:
Marshall’s a beast but a total head case. He’s not a bad guy but problems follow him everywhere, me first, etc. I’d take 6 pick.
My work here is done. Night all!
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They dont have to take a 1st at all. They can trade him for any pick they want.
The Broncos have the rights to Marshall now, and they can trade his rights for any pick.
I dont understand how it’s hard to understand the Broncos dont want that 6th pick. I dont want it either.
Ofcourse you can say: “we’ll trade down”, I’d be more than happy with that, but trading down has to come from 2 sides. If nobody wants to trade up you’re screwed. Before you start calling the reporter names, just think about it a little longer.
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Because you do not know what they want so
“I dont understand how it’s hard to understand the Broncos dont want that 6th pick.” This statement from you really means nothing. You have no idea what is going on at dove valley.
I do not understand that some people think they know what the broncos are thinking and what they want to do.
by gnarlybroncodude on Mar 6, 2010 1:03 AM MST up reply actions
Ofcourse I dont know whats going on..
I knew I shouldnt have posted at freaking 7AM and screw up the point Im trying to make. The part of my brain that translates into English isnt fully working at that time of day I guess. Thanks for learning me that lesson. I should have known all hell would break loose. I dont know whats going on in Dove Valley, and I honestly dont care what pick we get…
My main point is, dont tweet to a reporter (I know it wasnt u that tweeted) that we can only get Seattle’s first round pick, because thats not true. Only if the offersheet is signed and the Broncos dont match it we get their 6th. The Broncos can also trade Marshall’s rights to Seattle for anything they want, if both sides happen to prefer that.
Anyway, I’ll just be the idiot and leave it at that.
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to this and the response below
to anyone FOOLISH enough to prefer #14 over #6.
You must be freaking kidding me.
So often so many of the incredibly intelligent folks here make me feel dumb occaasionally….
You folks make me feel like a freaking genius.
hi?
Nevermind what i think they’ll do. It’s about logic at some point eh gnarly?
by Whidbey Bronco on Mar 6, 2010 1:08 AM MST up reply actions
Well I hope you are agreeing with me
I have no idea why someone would prefer the #14 pick over the #6 pick. Now I would take the 14th and a 3rd. over the 6th. But if they are only going to give us one pick I will take the 6th
by gnarlybroncodude on Mar 6, 2010 1:12 AM MST up reply actions
does that really need to be written?
so many folks are trying to run the opposite! Like “We don’t want the 6th but we want the 14th” it runs rampant amongst the …..well sorry. idiots….
by Whidbey Bronco on Mar 6, 2010 1:35 AM MST up reply actions
This is Weak Sauce
No update on Hadnot?! Who are these so called “beat writers”??
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Can't be a good sign
He’s been in Denver all day…why no word?
by T.Dot_Bronco on Mar 5, 2010 10:30 PM MST up reply actions
you'd think there would be word
either way, so I don’t know what’s going on
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 10:31 PM MST up reply actions
Total douche!
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 10:33 PM MST up reply actions
Well, if Schefter is asleep
Then Hadnot is probably a Bronco and nobody has reported it yet. There are, in fact, more important things than football I suppose
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random news: MtD has us taking Dan Williams @ 11.
by nolesbroncos3456 on Mar 5, 2010 10:35 PM MST reply actions
with Bannan on board? I don't see NT as a top priority in the draft
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 10:38 PM MST up reply actions
So the Bears overpaid Peppers at age 30
ortune – reportedly $72 million for six years with $40 million guaranteed . The guy is not going to play 6 more years
by gnarlybroncodude on Mar 5, 2010 10:36 PM MST reply actions
Dang
That’s a heck of a lot of cash
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 10:37 PM MST up reply actions
There goes my theory
That the owners are going to play cheapskates. Now who’s posturing?
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$40-45 million of it in the first three years.
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+1
hoping he can break that INT record next year, he was so close last year
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"We laugh to stave off madness."
I still will be happy when they lose,
however won’t really be to into it anymore until they play us. Although, he still doesn’t have anyone to throw to.
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Don't forget folks
John Clayton is the source.
The same John Clayton who last weekend on “The Huddle” said he thought Trent Cole would be ok as the Bills QB. Funny, I thought he played DE for Philadelphia and maybe Edwards was the QB for Buffalo.
He never did correct himself and don’t forget he is also the Dean of FU-thanks Joe
The QB position is set.
Yeah, I never really put much weight on what he has to say.
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Pats resign Wilfork for a 5 year $40 Mil and $25 is guaranteed
good deal
by nolesbroncos3456 on Mar 5, 2010 10:43 PM MST reply actions
They re-signed Stephen Neal too.
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Reportedly, yes
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 10:53 PM MST up reply actions
No, he filled in at NT due to injury of starter and did a good job.
Normally he played DE.
That’s how I read it.
Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.
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this is correct
RDE LDE and DT
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by Jeremy Bolander on Mar 6, 2010 2:09 AM MST up reply actions
rotoworld says he's played NT as a fill-in roll,will most likely be
in the rotation in the front three…..you sold on him as a NT and not needing to draft one in the first 2 rounds Sayre? ie Williams.
Ok, hypothetical. Say we get #6 from Seahawks...this is who I want
Eric Berry and Rolando McClain. Instant Defense.
Not sure Berry lasts that long, but I could see many of those first 5 teams snatching QBs and Linemen
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Wasn't it our offense that sucked last year?
haha
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 5, 2010 11:14 PM MST up reply actions
How many yards did we give up rushing against the Raiders and Chiefs last year...
AT HOME!
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To me that is...
U-N-A-C-C-E-P-T-A-B-L-E
And what offense can win games when that happens?
Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.
The guy formerly known as ZAPPA
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/03/05/teams-should-gladly-give-up-first-round-picks-for-proven-wideouts/
This is why I would be pissed off if we drafted Dez Bryant. ;-)
Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.
The guy formerly known as ZAPPA
If Baker isn't working out, I'd want Dan Williams at 11
Not instant D – long term D. Williams, Dwan Edwards and Bannan makes my mouth water. Of course, I’d be perfectly happy with Berry, but the more I’ve studied McClain, the more I wonder. The coverage issues bother me. How are you on them?
Don't say rebuild - say reload...
Bannan is 30
I do not know how long term he will be.
by gnarlybroncodude on Mar 6, 2010 1:04 AM MST up reply actions
If we trade back from 6 and 11..
We could have 2 late first rounders.. Odrick, Iupati
And two more to add to our second rounder.. Demarius Thomas, Pouncey and Spikes..
I can dream can’t I?
You're right, gnarly, and that's one more thing that comes into it for me
Again – I wish that I had any info on Baker, PDX and/or Powell. The development or lack of it by any or all of the three would have a huge effect on who we’d expect to look at in the draft or later in FA
Don't say rebuild - say reload...
I have a feeling its going to be a quiet night...
I’m out fellas. Baby will be waking up in less than 5 hours – if i am lucky. ;-)
Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.
The guy formerly known as ZAPPA
We're gunna have to fill that void though,
good point Sayre, while Orton can be accurate, ALOT of his balls were way off the mark that Marshall had to adjust for with those massive strong hands. ( he had the dropsies too, I know). But Orton to me benifited more from Marshall then the other way around. Big whole to fill.
Vic Lombardi twitter
Good opening day for the Broncos- Justin Bannan, Nathan Jones. But the best news is that teams are very interested in Brandon Marshall.
I can’t wait to hear what teams are very interested and what that means.
I can't think of any senarios where I want the Beast gone...
A #6 pick sounds juicy…but …..geeezzz….I want B-Marsh!
Are you NOT entertained!?!? -Maximus
i want the 6th
the beast is done in denver. Time to move on.
by Skotty on Mar 5, 2010 11:44 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Anybody here that wants to catch me up? What’s happening right now? Anybody meeting with the Broncos?
Good luck with the Redskins Mr. Mike! I'll be watching and cheering for a non-Bronco team for the first time in my life. Well, except when they play the Broncos!
everything you probably expected
Supposedly Rex Hadnot is holed up in Denver trying to sign. I expect Marshall to be gone within the next week or so if not any earlier.
by nolesbroncos3456 on Mar 6, 2010 1:56 AM MST up reply actions
Thanks!
Anybody else looking at our OC (rex)? or does it sound like a lock?
Good luck with the Redskins Mr. Mike! I'll be watching and cheering for a non-Bronco team for the first time in my life. Well, except when they play the Broncos!
Everyone is debating on which 1st rounder Seattle has to give up for BMarsh
Peppers got a MONSTER contract for 6 years and $91.5 effing MILLION. $42M of this is guaranteed.
by nolesbroncos3456 on Mar 6, 2010 2:03 AM MST reply actions
From Klis: DP
The Broncos did offer Marshall a multiyear contract last summer worth approximately $9.5 million a season, according to two NFL sources.
Marshall rejected the proposal because the contract structure had relatively little money upfront, and also because the receiver preferred to play elsewhere.
Seattle may be where.
Read more: http://www.denverpost.com/broncosheadlines/ci_14523017?source=rss#ixzz0hORLESVl
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