Mile High Report 2010 Free Agency Open Thread #3
by Tim Lynch on Mar 6, 2010 9:59 AM MST
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Look right here for the latest news and info on the Bronco's Free Agency moves, as well as an up-to-date front page recap as we go along.
- Broncos signed: RB JJ Arrington, DE/NT Justin Bannan, DB Nathan Jones
- Broncos trying to reel in: OG Tony Pashos, OC Rex Hadnot
- Broncos expecting a visit from: DE Dwan Edwards, LB Marques Murrell
- Broncos have reportedly contacted: DE Jarvis Green
- Brandon Marshall sweepstakes to begin in Seattle today (Video Update)
- Broncos also reportedly interested in: OC Kevin Mawae, DE Jason Babin, DL Jamal Williams (According to sources taken from RotoWorld)
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Here we go!
I really like these open threads
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
yeah, who started that bull?
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 6, 2010 10:04 AM MST up reply actions
I think that little guy from ESPN started it
the one that said Broncos would go 3-13 last year
All that you behold, though it appears without, it is within, in your imagination, of which this world of mortality is but a shadow...and one day you’ll awake and find that you’ve never lived and never died, except in the dream.
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MMMMKAY?
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by KaptainKirk on Mar 6, 2010 10:30 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Seachicken fans dreamin'...
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Rex would be a great addition
Time to put some heavy Man Meat on the line
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by SpaceCowboyInLG on Mar 6, 2010 10:05 AM MST reply actions
agreed
I wonder why his status hasn’t been updated for a while
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 6, 2010 10:10 AM MST up reply actions
he is a big guy
needs his sleep and stuff……………
I dunno, maybe luckily(?) we haven’t heard much from him and any team
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by SpaceCowboyInLG on Mar 6, 2010 10:11 AM MST up reply actions
Schefter says that Dwan Edwards is on his way to visit Denver after talking with the Seahawks.
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I'd be happy with that!
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I think that was good leverage building on his part
Now Denver is going to have to drive up their offer on him. I’d still sign him. He’s young, good, and would have longevity
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 6, 2010 10:08 AM MST up reply actions
yes
getting him and bannan will fortify our line
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 6, 2010 10:10 AM MST up reply actions
Nice.
I’m glad he made it out of Seattle. It would be nice to have a MT boy on the broncs. More importantly, the guy is a stud. If we can add either him or Green (or both!) the D-Line will be much better in 2010. Will make for great competition in camp too.
Potential D Line Competition: McBean, Fields, Peterson, Bannon, Edwards, Green, Thomas, Baker, Parker, Holiday (?), LK Smith (?). If they do bring in three guys, I doubt they bring Holliday or LK Smith into camp, but you never know. On the flip side, I expect McX to draft a couple DL this year based on what they did last year in FA/Draft— drafing positions they targeted in FA. Even if they bring in Edwards, Green and Bannon, Williams @ #11 would not shock me (especially if we have another first rounder).
Good Stuff!
LK Smith was released.
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Really? I knew we didn't tender him,
but he is still on our roster and was included in John’s summary this morning. I realize he’s a UFA at this point, but it’s still possible he would be brought back (same goes for Holliday). As for PedX, I thought he was released late last year. He’s not on the current roster on db.com. That’s why I left him out.
Ahh, I read we had released him outright.
My mistake…he is an UFA. opps.
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forgot PedX
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bring him on!!
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Mar 6, 2010 10:56 AM MST up reply actions
Good info here.
psmyth12:
In DT J. Bannan’s 4 years w/Ravens, defense ranked 1st in NFL in rush avg (3.3), 1st in rush TDs (26), 2nd in rush ypg (82.4)
Very solid stat
We have talent around him here too, so hopefully we can have some of that success
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 6, 2010 10:11 AM MST up reply actions
McDaniels should just call up Pete Carrol
and say we will take your 6th & 14th pick for Marshall. Take it of leave it. LOL Dreaming.
by gnarlybroncodude on Mar 6, 2010 10:13 AM MST reply actions
Oh and that is a joke
there is no way we get two first rounders for him
by gnarlybroncodude on Mar 6, 2010 10:13 AM MST up reply actions
In all honesty though
that is the equivalent to Seattle fans thinking they can get Marsh for a 2nd. Preposterous
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 6, 2010 10:14 AM MST up reply actions
haha, this
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
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by kentuckybronco on Mar 6, 2010 10:15 AM MST up reply actions
I know, haha
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 6, 2010 10:18 AM MST up reply actions
Could you imagine though
what we could do with all those picks in an uncapped year. That would be a little to much money in rookie contracts though
by gnarlybroncodude on Mar 6, 2010 10:21 AM MST up reply actions
Who knows?
Those jedi mind tricks that McD learned could prove to be very valuable in trade negotiations……
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by kentuckybronco on Mar 6, 2010 10:18 AM MST up reply actions
They will be Bantha fodder
(Waves hand) “These are the draft picks you will give to me.”
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
besides
Chicago was gullible enough last year — who’s to say? lol
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Mar 6, 2010 10:57 AM MST up reply actions
Seattle fans....
Crack me up. They all think they’re Superbowl bound if they get Marshall. Little do they know….
Marshall
The only way Denver gets less than #6 from Seattle is if they trade Denver for their tender on Marshall. If Seattle give Marshall a contract while Denver has the tender then Denver gets #6 or its equivelent.
If we here something today Probably Seattle signed Marshall to a contract. Negotiations for the tender probably take longer than just today. IMO
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Uh oh guys
The Chiefs re-signed Terrence Copper…should we be worried?!
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They're going after Thomas Jones too.
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Has anyone heard...
… who the “other team” that the Denver Post keeps mentioning is? How high their draft pick is could affect how much leverage we have in forcing Seattle to sign Marshall to an offer sheet if they want him.
by black_knight101 on Mar 6, 2010 10:19 AM MST reply actions
This is why
I think it could just be BS for leverage
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 6, 2010 10:21 AM MST up reply actions
Wait...the DP hooking the BRONCOS up?!
Nah, silly me
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 6, 2010 10:21 AM MST up reply actions
so we are just trying to spread rumors that other people want him?
I’m totally fine with that if that is the case
by black_knight101 on Mar 6, 2010 10:22 AM MST up reply actions
hard to say at this point if there is a"other team" could be a ploy by denver to drive up the asking price, or maybe there is another team.
But hes in seattle so i guess they want him more?
Seattle wants him badly...
so much so that they are trying to sign him while other teams are distracted with the UFAs
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which was smart for Seattle...
it lessens the chance for a bidding war on BMarsh
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yeah the general consensus is that it was gonna take till the start of next week for B marsh to get any movement.
However, now that everyone knows Seattle is interested, any team that wants him has to act now.
by black_knight101 on Mar 6, 2010 10:27 AM MST up reply actions
most teams are trying more for UFAs...RFAs are supposed to be a last resort option...
Seattle may be only game in town this week. until the other UFA WR start gettign signed….
Hopefully BMarsh gets greedy and the negotiations take a longer time….
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Not especially.
The Broncos can maintain the position that “we want Brandon Marshall”, if there is no other competition. We aren’t going to give him away for a song, let that be very clear.
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by kentuckybronco on Mar 6, 2010 10:21 AM MST up reply actions
yeah i think that is going to be key. the fact that we are willing to just sit around until they are willing to give us fair compensation is good. and if another team comes in with a crappy first round pick and tries to sign him to an offer sheet, we can always match.
by black_knight101 on Mar 6, 2010 10:23 AM MST up reply actions
Washington?
They need a #1 WR bad. After seeing what AZ got for Boldin, I have lower expectations on what we can expect in return for Brandon. I know everyone here would freak the f out if all we got was a mid-round pick, but I don’t think it’s out of the question at this point. In fact, I would be happy with Washington’s high second round pick (#37) and one of their young recievers (Malcom Kelly or Devin Thomas).
Nah
McX would just keep Marshall. He’s not quite that big of a headache. It hasn’t escalated into Cutlergate yet.
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
I do wonder about Washington actually
surprised that Shanny hasn’t made any noise regarding B Marsh or T.O. Personally, I think it would be hilarious to see T.O. back in the NFC East again playing against his former teams. Can’t believe Shanny wouldn’t have considered it, so that’s still my prognostication of this offseason.
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Mar 6, 2010 11:00 AM MST up reply actions
I seem to recall reading here at MHR
a number of different comments about Shanahan not being please with Marshall’s antics. He might not want him.
We live in an age when instant gratification isn't fast enough
AZ had a third round tender on Boldin
and got a 3rd and a 4th, how does that not bode well for the Broncos?
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by Choochoobonewagon on Mar 6, 2010 11:21 AM MST up reply actions
I saw we call Caroll and say
We want your #14 and NEXT YEARS #1 you greedy ass Seachickens. But want YOUR pick, not anyone elses. :P
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so what,
We get their #4 overall pick :-P
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by SpaceCowboyInLG on Mar 6, 2010 10:24 AM MST up reply actions
I believe in KARMA
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but didn't you hear?
Denver is so cooko that they can get him for like only a 7th round pick and stuff
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by SpaceCowboyInLG on Mar 6, 2010 10:26 AM MST up reply actions
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and Hannah Storm resists my advances when I come onto her, but I will swear in blood that come hell or highwater, the Denver Broncos will suck /s/ John Clayton
Brad James
by the new Bradfather on Mar 6, 2010 11:02 AM MST up reply actions
The thing that is funny about this
is Marshall always say he “just wants to win football games” Well by going to the Seachickens he has no chance to do that. They are so far away from having a winning season and going to the playoffs. He will have fun up there being irrelevant and not having a QB to throw him the ball.
by gnarlybroncodude on Mar 6, 2010 10:26 AM MST reply actions
BMarsh wants to win football games if he can make 10 mil a year.
The dude turned down 9.5 mil a year last year…he does not want to behere.
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I'll take 95k
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I actually think that they'd win a few
with B Marsh and Housh on the same field, and a fairly talented QB at the reins. Not saying they’d make it past 8-8, but B Marsh may not see it as a step down as much as a lateral move with a nice paycheck.
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Mar 6, 2010 11:02 AM MST up reply actions
But whose gonna block for that talented QB?
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Are we talking about the Bears or Seahawks?
Me is confoosed. :-\
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Matt Prater, pre-2009 season: Despised, lambasted, Josh McDaniels is derided for not replacing him.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Mar 6, 2010 11:10 AM MST up reply actions
Good shot at winning their division
Look at who they are up against: Arizona (so far they’ve lost their best QB, LB, and S), St. Louis (pretty much an abomination, no QB), and San Francisco (the toughest challange, but still unsettled at QB).
Cards lost a pretty good WR too.
Seattle and San Fran are pretty good replicas of each other. They just need a QB.
by higgyhoops12 on Mar 6, 2010 11:13 AM MST up reply actions
maybe we could get McClain at 11 and Williams at 14
by higgyhoops12 on Mar 6, 2010 11:53 AM MST up reply actions
BMarsh could also be signed to a good deal
and the Broncos can decide to match it and trade him later. ;-)
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Very true
That’s the whole thing…The Seahawks aren’t doing us any favors here.
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 6, 2010 10:35 AM MST up reply actions
Patience younglings
Have some Kool-Aid. LOL
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
MMM
It tastes good
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 6, 2010 10:40 AM MST up reply actions
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/10692/video-latest-on-marshall
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#6 overall pick baby!
I sure am going to miss him though…BEAST! on the field….
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Just watched it
What do we do with 6 overall? Is that our highest pick ever?
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 6, 2010 10:43 AM MST up reply actions
We picked #4 in 1983 when we traded for #1 pick John Elway
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Floyd Little was the #6 pick overall in 1967ish
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oh boy.......... this is going to be epic
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by kentuckybronco on Mar 6, 2010 10:51 AM MST up reply actions
So essentially
The highest pick for the Broncos of this generation (sorry to you seniors, lol) of fans?
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 6, 2010 10:52 AM MST up reply actions
Technically a generation is 20-26 years
So Croel in 91 is the highest at #4 ;-p
We live in an age when instant gratification isn't fast enough
good point...
I just barely fit in that generation :)
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 6, 2010 10:56 AM MST up reply actions
Between you & Tim
I’m starting to feel like I should have stayed in bed this morning. ;-p
We live in an age when instant gratification isn't fast enough
haha!
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 6, 2010 11:03 AM MST up reply actions
Yeah, well the Broncos rank like 4th in total wins since I was born in 1978. lol
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Tim, please quit making me feel old
I graduated from High School in 77.
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Kids!
Always complaining!
All that you behold, though it appears without, it is within, in your imagination, of which this world of mortality is but a shadow...and one day you’ll awake and find that you’ve never lived and never died, except in the dream.
William Blake
Class of 08'!
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 6, 2010 11:03 AM MST up reply actions
Mike Croel
I think he was #4 overall…maybe #5.
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by PredominantlyOrange on Mar 6, 2010 11:02 AM MST up reply actions
Oops there you go...shoulda kept reading down...
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by PredominantlyOrange on Mar 6, 2010 11:03 AM MST up reply actions
There were 6 higher
- Picks
Mike Croel in 1991
Chris Hinton in 1983
Jerry Shay in 1966
Robert Brown in 1964
We also drafted Merlin Olsen with the #2 pick in 1962. Olsen was also drafted by the NFL’s LA Rams the same year & chose to go to the Rams.
We drafted Bob Gaiters with the #1 pick in 1961. Gaiters was also picked by the NFL NY Giants. He chose the Giants.
We live in an age when instant gratification isn't fast enough
Crap
The first four picks were with the #4 pick. I don’t know why that switched it to “1.”
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wysiwy DO NOT g
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Where did it say he signed an offer sheet?
All it said was if he signed an offer sheet, and we don’t match, we’d get the 6th pick. I didn’t hear anything where a deal has actually gone through. I think this was just Schefter confirming we get their 6th pick and not our 14th pick we traded to them.
he didnt sign...i was just extrapolating. :)
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Okay, so Shefter's just saying what everyone already knew
Marshall has ties to coaches.
Seattle has to decide if they want him.
Nothing new there.
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This.
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Mar 6, 2010 11:04 AM MST up reply actions
LB Visit Scheduled
Scout.com has been told by an NFL source that unrestricted free agent Marques Murrell has a visit scheduled with the Denver Broncos.
During his first three seasons in the league, the 6-foot-2, 250-pound linebacker has appeared in 26 games, making 17 special teams tackles and another 21 tackles from the linebacker position.
If we get the 6th pick
we may trade back to a team that wants one of the QB’s if they fall. Much like the jets did last year.
Eric Berry...not if he is available!
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by Tim Lynch on Mar 6, 2010 10:48 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I think he's a Chief...sadly
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 6, 2010 10:49 AM MST up reply actions
My guess is
He is the future with McBath, but I’d hate to see Bruton take a back seat so early
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 6, 2010 10:54 AM MST up reply actions
yeah, when will Dawkins retire?
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After we win the super bowl :D
So bummer, he’s gone next offseason!
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 6, 2010 10:55 AM MST up reply actions
If Suh or McCoy
Falls to 6 do you take one of them?
Why does Madden suck at ranking the Broncos so much?
Mm....
That’s tasty. yes. Hopefully Suh.
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 6, 2010 10:59 AM MST up reply actions
We can dream! haha
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 6, 2010 11:04 AM MST up reply actions
Exactly, Sayre!
Step aside, my friend, I been doin' it for years.
Said sit on down, open ya eyes, say open up ya ears....
LOL
@ Bears fans who think they are now instant contenders with Julius Peppers and Chester Taylor. The last I checked, Jay Cutler is their quarterback.
Brad James
by the new Bradfather on Mar 6, 2010 10:50 AM MST reply actions
Didn't you hear?
They’re moving peppers to the o-line, and will be using Taylor as a WR.
We live in an age when instant gratification isn't fast enough
Didn't they pick up Burleson too?
Step aside, my friend, I been doin' it for years.
Said sit on down, open ya eyes, say open up ya ears....
That was the lions
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 6, 2010 11:06 AM MST up reply actions
Burlson has tweeted that he has a done deal with the Lions
We live in an age when instant gratification isn't fast enough
Thats as bad as Seattle
Trying to sign everthing but OL and I think there’s is worse than Chicago.
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They said the same crap
when they got Cutler last year. All their fans were talking superbowl. They are not the brightest bunch
by gnarlybroncodude on Mar 6, 2010 11:30 AM MST up reply actions
Of Course
with all due respect to the majority of Bears fans, (i.e., I refer primarily to those at Windy City Gridiron) the thin-skinned Windy City denizens will not tolerate anyone with a different opinion. Imagine if we did that with McGeorge, who often has really good takes that I don’t happen to agree with, MHR would lose much of its charm. War different opinions that ultimately all lead to a Broncos championship.
Brad James
by the new Bradfather on Mar 6, 2010 10:54 AM MST reply actions
ahh, WCG fans are okay. Just a little fatigued with all the pokes they got from us last year. I feel for em.
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by broncosmontana on Mar 6, 2010 11:06 AM MST up reply actions
With That Said
remember all the crap we received last season and we took on all comers. It’s just funny that we are indestructible fans and when another team falters, I must confess I take a little guilty satisfaction when their fans do as well.
Brad James
by the new Bradfather on Mar 6, 2010 11:10 AM MST up reply actions
dude i see were you are coming from.
but its old news. Personally i could careless about the bears and cutler now. They’re not broncos.
Backup QB suggestion
Mentioned this earlier, but does anyone think Shaun Hill might be a viable option to pursue as backup QB? Assuming the Niners sign David Carr as expected. Hill isn’t super talented but he’s solid, smart and seems to win. Not a bad backup and wouldn’t be that expensive. Just a thought.
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a few snippets on Marques Murrell (from various sources)
• OLB Marques Murrell (not tendered as RFA) was benched midway through the season and often was a healthy scratch thereafter. His future with the team is iffy.
In 16-13 overtime loss to the Buffalo Bills on October 18, 2009, Murrell and fellow Jet James Ihedigbo threw punches at Bills Tight End Derek Fine, prompting Murrell to be fined by the NFL for $5,000 and be benched, along with Ihedigbo, by Head Coach Rex Ryan for the following game against the Oakland Raiders on October 25, 2009.
NO SPECIAL DELIVERY: In his nine-year tenure, the Jets’ special teams under Mike Westhoff had given up three touchdowns on kickoff returns. Sunday, they gave up two within seven minutes. Westhoff ranked it as the worst day of his career. “(It’s) frustrating for me, so it’s one of those things that leaves a bitter taste. It’ll go away when they’re lowering me in the grave,” Westhoff said.
Westhoff was without three of his favorite players Sunday, Ahmad Carroll, Marquice Cole and Marques Murrell, who were inactive. The Jets wanted more size and help for banged-up linebacker Bart Scott.
- Porn star Heather Hunter gave consoling lap dances at Noel Ashman’s club the Plumm to still-grieving Jets Marques Murrell, D’Brickashaw Ferguson and Sione Pouha on New Year’s Eve,
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2009/01/04/2009-01-04_celebrity_side_dish.html#ixzz0hQ9bI5OW
Because Gholston’s role on defense is so small, it might not make sense to dress him because it creates a dropoff on special teams. He’s not as good as Marques Murrell and Ahmad Carroll, core special teamers who got squeezed in the numbers game and were inactive in the last game.
FINE MESS: Special teamers James Ihedigbo and Marques Murrell were fined $5,000 apiece by the league for throwing punches at a helmet-less Derek Fine of the Bills. Ryan, meting out his own discipline, is planning to deactivate both players for Sunday’s game. In fact, they won’t even make the trip.
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 6, 2010 11:33 AM MST up reply actions
Brandon Marshall update***
Seattle is not expected to offer Marshall, but they could work out a trade per Adam Schefter
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
Interesting
I wonder if that might mean that Marshall will end up back in Denver next year.
We live in an age when instant gratification isn't fast enough
That means
They want to give less than #6
... if you have a belief, you will tend to find things that support it. But if you have a prejudice, you’ll move heaven and earth to maintain it. BroncoBear
WHY are we (the fans) not talking about the best part of this....
This means that Denver is going to get another year of Marshall for relative chump change: $2.521 M for the year or so. It’s a $400k raise for #15 and a humbling experience for BM to see that other teams don’t think he’s worth more than a #2.
This is the best possible scenario for those who want us to keep Marshall. All of those who, on Thursday, thought “oh gosh, Marshall’s gone, we undervalued him…” is this a surprise to you? Maybe McX does know what he’s doing.
Please remember to see the forest through the trees Bronco faithful!!
by super7 on Mar 6, 2010 12:19 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree with you, as long as
it doesn’t give us a grumbling/unhappy Marshall who becomes a distraction.
I don’t think it will, especially since he’ll be playing for a big payday/new contract with some team after the season (assuming there’s no lockout), so optimistically I do think that is a good scenario.
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants country, and damned proud of it.
and who cares if it does
we won’t have to worry about paying him after next year, so we can trade him prior to or during the trade deadline to get some sort of compensation for him. Especially excited about the prospect of a desperate Seattle/Miami/someone else calling in August and offering a 2011 #1 and #3.
Well I care in the sense that
if he’s going to be on the team I want him to be a contributing member of Bronco society; otherwise they can get excellent compensation for losing him now rather than next season. The best scenario is still as you said, he’s still on the team and plays as well as he has
There's no need to fear, Underdog is here! / Broncos/Dodgers fan in Niners/Raiders/Giants country, and damned proud of it.
Another WR off the market maybe
Damien Woody welcomed Antonio Bryant on his twitter. Has Bryant signed with the Jets?
Maybe we could get McClain at 11 and Williams at 14
by higgyhoops12 on Mar 6, 2010 11:54 AM MST up reply actions
Perhaps the Seahawks saw what Boldin commanded and they won't even offer #14 in a trade
but a 2nd and a player instead
The Dude abides. I don't know about you but I take comfort in that.
Hmm...
In that case, they probably won’t get him. That’s my opinion. Marshall’s tender is a clear indication of what the Broncos want, and Seattle has two of them. If they are unreasonable, they should not even bother.
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 6, 2010 11:56 AM MST up reply actions
As long as the front office gets top billing
then I’ll be happy…. again, there’s no gun to our head to pull the trigger today. Why give Marshall up for a lack luster deal?
Committing random acts of Brandon since 2006...
Now We'll see
How bad Seattle wants Marshall or how little Denver does!
... if you have a belief, you will tend to find things that support it. But if you have a prejudice, you’ll move heaven and earth to maintain it. BroncoBear
Good points, Sayre, I'm just bringing relative value to the discussion
So if Boldin = Marshall , as many pundits have said straight up and Boldin is worth and
3rd and a 4th
Then the market value given the comps for Marshall is the #14 pick?
…stirring the pot
The Dude abides. I don't know about you but I take comfort in that.
I think you're right TJ
From what I’ve seen a lot of FA is about establishing market value. I’ve mentioned elsewhere that this could well be a humbling experience for Marshall, if other teams are not willing to offer what the Broncos are asking.
It might just convince him to grow up a little bit and convince him that his best choice would be to play for McDaniels.
We live in an age when instant gratification isn't fast enough
Right.
Actually, not even a 3rd and 4th, because didn’t AZ send a 5th back at Baltimore?
I still think Brandon has more value than Boldin— the guy is a beast— but I wouldn’t be suprised to see McX pull the trigger on a deal that did not involve a first round pick because I feel they want him out, period. His personality is so huge that he just carries tremendous potential to create locker room drama, not to mention the off-field volitility. That’s fine for a club that has a strong locker room and an entrenched, strong-willed coacing staff and front office, as there is not that much damage he can do there.
Our club has a 33 year old head coach and a young GM too. A couple guys like Marshall can sink the ship. That’s why Cutler was dealt, and that’s why Brandon and Tony are on their way out. McDanials and Xandars are tasked with building a locker room full of team-first, quality players that can start winning consistently. That needs to happen in order for McX to gain credibility. Once credibility is gained, you can tolorate a couple big personalities. The problem is that you need to win games, and you need these big talents to win games in the NFL. Unfortuneatly, the vast majority of the uber-talented players in the NFL have large, overgrown personalities and egos that have been fostered since they were on pop warner fields.
It’s a tall task. First you need to get rid of locker room problems (Cutler, Marshall, Scheffler), then hold on to and pay the strong charachter top-level talent (i.e., Clady, Harris, Champ, Elvis (we need to pay this man now!), DJ), then bring in vet leaders who can contribute and mentor (Dawkins, Hill, Buck, Goody, Bannon, Orton), and fianlly draft the talent (Knowshon, Ayres, Dez (?)/McClain(?)) and hope the humility of being a rookie in the NFL integrates them into the lockerroom. I think McX is succeeding thus far, but like I said, it’s a tall task.
Just Tweeted at Schefter
trying to get some clarification on Rex Hadnot…Let’s see if he responds!
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
see my above post...
This is the best possible scenario for Denver in 2010. Keep Marshall at a HUGE steal ($2.5M) and teach him a lesson.
I don’t want to see Denver give in on their tender. I’ll be very surprised if they do.
Reminds me of The Clash
Should Brandon stay or should he go …now
Should Brandon stay or should he go …now
If he stays there will be…Trouble
If he goes it will be …Double
... if you have a belief, you will tend to find things that support it. But if you have a prejudice, you’ll move heaven and earth to maintain it. BroncoBear
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