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My views on Brandon Marshall

 Ok, after my fake post the other day with the Magic 8-Ball, I decided to get in on all the FA fun and post a real article regarding my views on whether or not we should keep Brandon Marshall. This is my first true post, so please don't scour me too much. These are just my opinions and can be taken for what they are worth.

There are advantages and disadvantages to Brandon Marshall, on one hand you have an amazing Wide Receiver that has had at least 100 receptions and 1100 yards 3 seasons straight. We know he can play and we know he can make the big plays when we need it. The other side of that is his attitude towards the club, his attitude off the field and his injuries. The reason he is upset is he believes he deserves a top 5 WR salary (consult the chart below).

  Player Team Base Salary Sign Bonus Other Bonus Total Salary Cap Value

More after the jump

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Let's assume we were to pay Brandon Marshall the lowest of these 5 salaries over a 5 year span, this is still going to equal out to around $40 million, assuming he received all of the bonus money. On the other hand if we were to get the 6th pick overall from Seattle, we are going to potentially pay a rookie around $30 - $40 million over the same time span. Either way we go, we are paying about the same.

If we can get Brandon Marshall for less than $6 million per year, this might be a good thing (with bonus salary for good behavior). If we do get the 6th overall pick, we are still not guaranteed we will not have a player with attitude problems. I am sure McX knows what they are doing on that front and hope they will make the right decision overall.

Brandon Marshall has a ton of upside, but we have seen what attitude ridden receivers have done to various clubs over the past few years (Moss, T.O., OchoCinco) and it is not fun. I do not envy any of those teams that they have screwed and do not want the same controversies or issues that those clubs have had. Brandon Marshall needs to continue taking lessens from Rod Smith. If Marshall can pull it together, I would love to see him catching touchdowns from Orton all season. If he cannot, I say farewell, bring on the draft pick.

So, if he is cheap keep him, if not say bye bye.

 

Final Verdict

Potential cost of keeping Brandon Marshall (with issues) $35 - $50 million for a 5-year contract.

Potenential cost of 6th overall pick (preferably without issues) $30 - $40 million for a 5-year contract.

 

Salaries:

http://content.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/salaries/playersbyposition.aspx?pos=145

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Here's the problem

The Broncos could of easily worked out a long term deal a while ago, but it seems they are content to either have another team sign BM and get a 1st round draft pick, or tender him the offer for a 1st round RFA which would likely be 3 mil next year and allow the process to repeat next year. I have a hard time believing BM would be a happy camper playing for pennies on the dollar again, and I would expect that he will either make himself such a pain in the ass that the Broncos are either forced to trade or cut him (ala what TO did in Philly), or he may just say F-it, and sit out next season and not sign. Either way I think that the Broncos need to get rid of BM if they aren’t going to sign him for a long term deal, expecting him to come back for the 1st round tender for one year and somehow not be pissed off is very naive.

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by Broncoman on Mar 8, 2010 7:59 AM MST reply actions  

Except

If the Broncos say take it or leave it (the tender) he will really be forced to play well this year in hopes of getting his mega deal next year, after he’s shown the league that he is a star player and that he can stay out of trouble (which includes no pouting or quitting). If he takes the year off, he will be shooting himself in both feet with a very large calibre gun.

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by bradley on Mar 8, 2010 8:24 AM MST up reply actions  

Denver offered a deal

last year I believe and the Marshall camp said no. I think they said because they wanted more upfront money. I think if he is signed to an acceptable offer sheet Denver will match, if not, I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Broncos offer him a long term deal instead of paying him the tender, but will probably be similar to the previous offer. The reason I see this, is that 2011 the players may not be playing football, which means marshall may not get his coveted new deal. If this is about the money I think both sides can come to an agreement, and with the Bolden deal Marshall can start to see what his value is. Marshall is younger and deserves a little more, but in general 8 mil a year seems about right for his talents (with clauses for off-field issues)

Personally i would put team clauses in there also. Bonuses for making playoffs, championship game, superbowl etc. To ensure he stays motivated all season.

by JesseDForrer on Mar 8, 2010 9:40 AM MST up reply actions   1 recs

You know what Broncoman, you hit it right on the nose with your opening statement....

….we could have given Brandon an extension last year…..

I know I’ve been away for a while but I still haven’t changed, I want Brandon catching passes for us, not figuring out how to defend him……………………period.

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by Mike Clark on Mar 8, 2010 2:51 PM MST up reply actions  

Per Adam Schefter @Twitter

Marshall is still very open to come back to Denver and this we already knew when Marshall made the statement a couple of weeks ago. The bridge between Marshall and the team isn’t broken like some have expressed, but even though…McDaniels was also qouted as saying that the Broncos wouldn’t have any probelm with Brandon on the team if he stayed. This drama is probably going to drag out for weeks, all the way up to the draft, so we’ll just have to wait and see what transpires between the two. I do believe one thing though, if the Seahags give up their first for (#6) him I don’t think the Broncos will match it. Then we will say fairwell old friend.

by bfree2bronc on Mar 8, 2010 8:34 AM MST reply actions  

I agree.

Or any team that actually does the offer sheet and we would get a 1st round pick.

by Digger24 on Mar 8, 2010 8:41 AM MST up reply actions  

If he does remain a Bronco

it will be because McD wants to keep him. He will get more than the tender contract if that’s the case. The only question on the whole matter is, does McD think he can coexist as a team player on the “new” Denver Broncos? Everything so far, to me, resembles the same smokescreen they put up last year with someone else.

by Digger24 on Mar 8, 2010 8:39 AM MST reply actions  

If McD wants him on the team then all he has to do is match the offer.

I believe if that happens then the broncos should get him under contract as soon as possible and not worry about what next is going to do…That is if you value the man and his play.

by bfree2bronc on Mar 8, 2010 8:57 AM MST up reply actions  

True

So unless BM came back with a # in his head and Denver says OK within the next few days, we can pretty much assume there is a very high chance of this being a get all you can get out of him kindof thing and he will be gone.

by Digger24 on Mar 8, 2010 9:04 AM MST up reply actions  

Quick Question:

Can the Broncos sign a contract with Marshall now that the RFA period has begun? I am not syaing this is a good or bad idea, but can they come to terms or do they have to wait this process out?

by JesseDForrer on Mar 8, 2010 9:42 AM MST reply actions  

Good Q

Yes. They can sign him, trade him, flip him on his ear and beat him. We have no restrictions on extending our player, nothing holds us back.

Good luck with the Redskins Mr. Mike! I'll be watching and cheering for a non-Bronco team for the first time in my life. Well, except when they play the Broncos!

by Alex on Mar 8, 2010 3:11 PM MST up reply actions  

Here are some important dates for your question Jesse

April 15 — Deadline for signing of Offer Sheets of Restricted Free Agents.
April 21 — Deadline for old club to exercise right of first refusal to restricted free agents.
June 1 — Deadline for old clubs to send tender to unsigned restricted free agents or to extend qualifying offer to retain exclusive negotiating rights.
June 15 — Deadline for old clubs to withdraw original qualifying offer to unsigned restricted free agents and still retain exclusive negotiating rights by substituting tender of 110 percent of previous year’s salary.

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by KaptainKirk on Mar 8, 2010 3:21 PM MST up reply actions  

Thanks guys

I am a pretty knowledgable football guy, but I sometimes get lost in the front office stuff…

by JesseDForrer on Mar 8, 2010 5:05 PM MST up reply actions  

Nice article, toon
please don’t scour me too much.

Hey, your baths are your own business ;-)

I have to wonder about the perspective that ‘The Broncos could of easily worked out a long term deal a while ago’. They offered 9.5 mil a year – that’s a very substantial offer, putting Marshall into the top 5, which is about right. It was more backloaded than upfront, but given Marshall’s history, that’s also pretty much understandable. Now we’ll all see what’s out there. Denver can match an offer, if Marshall is ever offered more, but in this climate, I’m not sure that will be an issue. I don’t see the benching at the end of the season as making a lot of difference one way or the other – Marshall’s body of work is on one side, his tendency to get in trouble on the other. One more fairly minor incident didn’t swing the scales much.

I like what’s happening. It permits Brandon a chance to see how his services are valued by other teams and may let him see that he’s overvaluing where he is right now. Both sides have talked about how they’d be happy to work together and there are no public areas of conflict, all of which speaks highly for both parties.

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by Doc Bear on Mar 8, 2010 11:32 AM MST reply actions   1 recs

Three days ago is the first time I heard mention of the Broncos offering him 9.5 mil.

Was that documented somewhere or just off of someone’s head? And if that is true was it just for one year or a multi-year contract? Because of his character issues I don’t believe anybody would be foolish enough to offer him a $60 mil long term contract, but I may be wrong in saying that.

by bfree2bronc on Mar 8, 2010 11:54 AM MST up reply actions  

It was included in a DP article by Mike Klis:
The Broncos did offer Marshall a multiyear contract last summer worth approximately $9.5 million a season, according to two NFL sources.

I couldn’t find the original article, but it was quoted here. This article has a link to the DP article, but it is in the “secured” archive — so if you don’t have an account at the DP, you cannot access it.

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by BShrout on Mar 8, 2010 12:55 PM MST up reply actions  

Here’s an article by John Bena from last year that talks about the contract extension talks, I’m not sure where the dollar sign amount comes from, but I swear it’s in here somewhere…

by JALefor on Mar 8, 2010 12:47 PM MST reply actions  

Toonafeesh, this is a good thought but I still feel..............

that we are taking a huge chance trading Brandon and hoping we get an equal talent. I want Brandon Marshall on this team. In fact, I think every member here ought to e-mail Brandon and remind him that almost all HOF inductees set their records with one team. First break team records and then NFL records.

I want Marshall to be a Denver Bronco.

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Gonsoulin, Taylor, Little, Wright, Gradishar, Atwater, Davis, and Sharpe...
Why are they not in the Hall...I just don't understand.

by Mike Clark on Mar 8, 2010 2:59 PM MST reply actions  

You got my rec on both articles

It’s a new perspective. I enjoyed it.

I use USA Today for source info relating to pay also. That said, Rotoworld gives better contract info. It’s tough to base new numbers on a single contract year; Rotoworld gives better details on contract structure. Just thought I’d throw that bone out there, but it’s not meant to disprove your reasoning. Again, greatly enjoyed.

Good luck with the Redskins Mr. Mike! I'll be watching and cheering for a non-Bronco team for the first time in my life. Well, except when they play the Broncos!

by Alex on Mar 8, 2010 3:17 PM MST reply actions  

marshall

the thing is, he does seem to be getting more mature. this offseason compared to last offseason is a world of difference. he had a mini-backslide the last game of the season but he recovered quickly. It’s probable that he won’t be as much of a drama problem next season and beyond than he was, if he stays with the Broncos. Main thing I worry about is the gangs targeting him.

by tunesmith on Mar 8, 2010 3:19 PM MST reply actions  

This is the way to argue one's position

By doing it in a post, instead of browbeating another for his opinionated comment. Nice job.
Here feeshy, feeshy.

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by KaptainKirk on Mar 8, 2010 3:24 PM MST reply actions  

Great Info

I still believe Broncos are better off with Brandon than without him. Yes, I believe in 2nd chances.

oc60

by oc60 on Mar 8, 2010 5:00 PM MST reply actions  

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