Denver Broncos Mock Draft Part 22
This is my first mock draft since the start of free agency. As I've been typing out the picks, the Broncos signed DL Jarvis Green and Jamal Williams, which changed my initial picks a bit, but not too much.
Just to recap, here is a quick list of the players we have brought aboard thus far this offseason.
Free Agency
DL Justin Bannan
CB Nate Jones
DL Jarvis Green
DL Jamal Williams
More after the jump...
Draft (Scouting reports courtesy CBSSports.com/NFLDraftScout.com)
1. First Round, 11th overall: Rolando McClain, ILB, Alabama
6'4" 254
We're ecstatic to be able to add Rolando with our first first round pick. We feel he is a young guy who brings great leadership to the table. He has very rare size for his position, and very rare intangibles as well. We think he's going to be a long term guy at the inside linebacker position to pair with D.J. Williams, and a duo that will be one of the best in the NFL.
Overview Consensus All-American and 2009 Butkus winner Rolando McClain has the combination of size and great instincts to be an impact defender in the NFL.
McClain won a starting job as a true freshman and grabbed freshman all-conference accolades with 75 tackles, including 5.5 tackles for loss. McClain earned first-team All-SEC honors, posting a team-leading 95 tackles and 12.5 tackles for loss as a sophomore. He was even better in 2009, registering career highs in tackles (105), tackles for loss (14.5) and sacks (four) in earning consensus All-American honors, being only the second Tide defender to ever win the Butkus Award (the late Derrick Thomas being the other), leading Alabama to the national title.
McClain's accomplishments don't override concerns some evaluators have about his transition from Nick Saban's highly aggressive 3-4 scheme to the NFL. McClain was protected in the Alabama scheme by 365-pound nose guard Terrance Cody, who tied up blockers up front. McClain's instincts mask his lack of elite speed and there are concerns about how he'll be able to hold up in coverage.
The other side of the argument is what McClain brings as a downhill thumper in the running game. His status as a possible first-round pick and potential immediate difference-maker in the NFL should be safe.
Consensus All-American and 2009 Butkus winner Rolando McClain has the combination of size and great instincts to be an impact defender in the NFL.
McClain won a starting job as a true freshman and grabbed freshman all-conference accolades with 75 tackles, including 5.5 tackles for loss. McClain earned first-team All-SEC honors, posting a team-leading 95 tackles and 12.5 tackles for loss as a sophomore. He was even better in 2009, registering career highs in tackles (105), tackles for loss (14.5) and sacks (four) in earning consensus All-American honors, being only the second Tide defender to ever win the Butkus Award (the late Derrick Thomas being the other), leading Alabama to the national title.
McClain's accomplishments don't override concerns some evaluators have about his transition from Nick Saban's highly aggressive 3-4 scheme to the NFL. McClain was protected in the Alabama scheme by 365-pound nose guard Terrance Cody, who tied up blockers up front. McClain's instincts mask his lack of elite speed and there are concerns about how he'll be able to hold up in coverage.
The other side of the argument is what McClain brings as a downhill thumper in the running game. His status as a possible first-round pick and potential immediate difference-maker in the NFL should be safe.
Read & React: Excellent key-and-diagnose skills. Identifies the play quickly and has little to no wasted motion in getting to the action. Rarely fooled by misdirection. Recognizes screens quickly and attacks before linemen have a chance to set up blocks. Dedicated and he has to be kicked out of the film room.
Run defense: Prototypical size and strength for inside linebacker. Instinctive. Takes good angles to the ball. Good vision and balance to flow through the trash. Great strength in his hands to stack and shed blockers. Tall enough to locate the ballcarrier while being blocked and can forcefully toss the blocker to the side to make the play. Has good, not great speed lateral and straight-line speed to the sideline. Faster on the field than in workouts because of his instincts.
Pass defense: Gains good depth in his drops, but is stiff and struggles a bit changing direction to stay with receivers in man coverage. Alert in zone and shows good route recognition. Closes on the ball quickly. Long arms and quick hands to slap away the pass as it arrives. At least adequate ball skills (five career INTs).
Tackling: True thumper that can be an intimidating force in the middle. Classic hit-lift-drive tackler with the strength to knock the ballcarrier off his feet with the long arms to wrap around for the secure stop. Breaks down well in space to make the sure stop against smaller, quicker ballcarriers. Good hustle laterally, though he can give up too easily in pursuit downfield.
Pass Rush/Blitz: Great size and closing speed but he isn't there yet. Times his blitz well and gets skinny to get through the line of scrimmage. Doesn't show enough hand technique to disengage as a pass rusher. Relies on his bull rush to push the pocket and is strong enough for this to be effective. Savvy enough to get his hands up in the passing lanes when he can't get to the quarterback in time.
Intangibles: Described as a film junkie and defensive coordinator on the field. Is characterized as not only knowing his assignment on every defensive call, but also the job of every defensive teammate. Incredibly competitive. Never missed a game at Alabama. Voted a team captain in 2009 as a junior.
**Projected Trade: Brandon Marshall traded to Seahawks for 14th overall pick and 4th round pick**
2. First Round, 14th overall: Mike Iupati, Guard, Idaho
6'5" 331
Mike is a very powerful young man who has everything you look for in a guard at this level. He is tough, strong, and he has quick feet. He fills an immediate void up front, and we feel he can be a starter for us right away.
Slipping through the cracks due to questions about his ability to qualify academically after moving to the United States at 14, Iupati quietly signed with Idaho and has since emerged as one of the more intriguing big men in this draft. Iupati, who entered his senior season with only 20 career starts, did not allow a single sack in 2009, earning consensus All-American honors -- the first Vandal to gain such attention since defensive end Ryan Phillips was recognized in 1995.
While all of his 34 career starts have come at left guard, some feel his ultimate pro position could lie outside at offensive tackle or even as a defensive tackle. His unique combination of size, strength and quick feet could be enough to warrant a top 50 selection.
Pass blocking: Good initial quickness off the snap. Provides a significant jolt to the defender with his punch. Too high in his pass protection but has the strong hands to latch on to the defender and ride him throughout the play. Good balance and lateral agility to slide with the defender and remain square. Can get himself in trouble with leverage by playing too high. Long arms and great lower strength to lock out. Rarely takes a step back even against a powerful bull rush, but this could be an area of concern against NFL defensive linemen, especially when Iupati fails to move his feet. Has developed into a savvy blocker. Looks to help out his teammates when not covered. Wants to hit someone.
Run Blocking: Can dominate as a run blocker due to his mass and rare upper-body strength. Provides an explosive initial pop that often knocks the defender back. Has to do a better job of latching on, as he'll knock his opponent back only to see him regroup and get back into the play. Very good drive blocker when he plays with leverage and keeps his hands inside. Can physically remove the defender from the hole. Looks to eliminate more than one defender on the play and will release to the second level. Good effort downfield.
Pulling/trapping: Surprisingly agile in getting out and blocking at the second level. Good body control and straight-line speed for a player of his size. Can re-adjust in space to hit the linebacker. Fails to lock onto the defender, at times, preferring to violently shove his target to the ground and look for others.
Initial Quickness: Good initial quickness off the snap in pass protection. Even on the rare occasions when beaten off the snap, his long arms and wide-body make it difficult for defenders (including blitzing linebackers) to sneak through his gap. When beaten by quicker defensive tackles in the running game, has the agility and long arms to catch them as they slide by, typically knocking them down and pancaking them.
Downfield: Intimidating presence on the move. Good athleticism and balance for a man his size and can redirect to make the effective block when he gets close. Will misjudge angles at times, and miss his intended target. When he does so, rather than turn to stand helplessly around the pile, he moves on to the next target. Good effort to block downfield.
Intangibles: Made significant progress over the past two seasons and appears to be just scratching the surface of his potential. Size and athleticism combination enough that some will view him as a better offensive tackle or even defensive tackle prospect. Born in American Samoa and moved to the United States at 14. Began learning English (and football) at that time. Has only played football since high school. Signed with Idaho after bigger programs had concerns about his ability to qualify academically. Voted team captain by his peers for 2009.
3. Second Round, 45th overall: Tim Tebow, Quarterback, Florida
6'3" 236
We love Tebow's potential in this league. He is a great leader and the players around him respond well to him. He is a winner and we're excited to have him aboard.
Characterized by some as Bronko Nagurski under center, Tim Tebow fits perfectly in an era of multi-dimensional quarterbacks.
Expectations have been through the roof ever since he posted exciting numbers in limited duty as a freshman in 2006 (827 all-purpose yards and 13 touchdowns). He became the first sophomore to win the Heisman Trophy, and it seemed unlikely that Tebow's star could get much brighter.
However, following a stunning loss at home to Mississippi at midseason in 2008, Tebow followed up his vow to step up his game another notch. He went on to account for 42 touchdowns (30 passing) and only four interceptions on the year while leading the Gators to the second national championship of his tenure.
Though his touchdown-to interception-ratio remained a staggering 21-5 in 2009, Tebow struggled at times. Just when it looked like his star was fading and the talking heads were taking turns pointing out his elongated release and inconsistent accuracy, Tebow lit up the previously undefeated Cincinnati Bearcats in the Sugar Bowl. His 482 passing yards were a career high and his 533 all-purpose yards broke Vince Young's BCS record of 467 yards against USC in the 2005 Sugar Bowl.
In terms of NFL prospects, Tebow flashes the potential to earn an exceptional grade and has a cupboard full of accolades, but his game certainly isn't without warts. His statistics are inflated by coach Urban Meyer's scheme. He'll need to improve an elongated release (including his low drop point), overall accuracy and feel in the pocket just to remain at quarterback in the NFL. If he can improve in his overall mechanics, however, Tebow's intangibles are what every team is looking for at quarterback.
Accuracy: Flashes accuracy to all levels. A bit inconsistent on intermediate throws that require zip. Throws some beautiful passes in tight windows, but also has a tendency for "wobbly" throws, making his passes a tougher catch than pure spirals. Typically leads his receivers, but still too often forces them to alter their routes. May struggle with the tighter windows at the next level.
Arm Strength: Prototypical arm strength. Can make every NFL throw. Can zip short and intermediate passes and flashes touch and trajectory on deeper throws. Only occasionally asked to throw true deep balls in this offense, but has the arm strength to do so.
Setup/Release: Some real concerns in this area. Takes snaps in the shotgun, meaning he'll need significant refinement in his drop-back at the next level. Quick, active feet necessary to eventually excel in this area. Has an elongated wind-up, in which he drops the ball to his hip before winding up to release the pass. Has struggled with pass rushers knocking the ball out of his hands, as well as tipping off defensive backs who can read where he's going with the long wind-up. Regressed as a senior with his fundamentals in passing on the run. Showed a greater tendency to throw across his body and off his back foot.
Reading Defenses: Only asked to make a few reads in this offense before having the green light to run. Seems to be a cerebral player who understands defenses and will scan the field to locate the open receiver. Protects the ball well as a ballcarrier, though the elongated release has led to fumbles.
On the Move: At his best as a runner and has rare vision with the ball in his hands from the quarterback position. Can anticipate holes in the defense and shows the burst to get past the initial wave of defenders to gain yards in chunks. Powerful runner who runs with good forward lean and doesn't shy away from contact.
Intangibles: Perfectly suited to Urban Meyer's system, but there are some questions as to how Tebow's skills translate to the NFL. Good size and strength for the position. Rare toughness. Natural and charismatic leader. Voted team captain in 2008 and Academic All-American in 2007.
NFL Comparison: Donovan McNabb, Eagles
Accuracy: Flashes accuracy to all levels. A bit inconsistent on intermediate throws that require zip. Throws some beautiful passes in tight windows, but also has a tendency for "wobbly" throws, making his passes a tougher catch than pure spirals. Typically leads his receivers, but still too often forces them to alter their routes. May struggle with the tighter windows at the next level.
Arm Strength: Prototypical arm strength. Can make every NFL throw. Can zip short and intermediate passes and flashes touch and trajectory on deeper throws. Only occasionally asked to throw true deep balls in this offense, but has the arm strength to do so.
Setup/Release: Some real concerns in this area. Takes snaps in the shotgun, meaning he'll need significant refinement in his drop-back at the next level. Quick, active feet necessary to eventually excel in this area. Has an elongated wind-up, in which he drops the ball to his hip before winding up to release the pass. Has struggled with pass rushers knocking the ball out of his hands, as well as tipping off defensive backs who can read where he's going with the long wind-up. Regressed as a senior with his fundamentals in passing on the run. Showed a greater tendency to throw across his body and off his back foot.
Reading Defenses: Only asked to make a few reads in this offense before having the green light to run. Seems to be a cerebral player who understands defenses and will scan the field to locate the open receiver. Protects the ball well as a ballcarrier, though the elongated release has led to fumbles.
On the Move: At his best as a runner and has rare vision with the ball in his hands from the quarterback position. Can anticipate holes in the defense and shows the burst to get past the initial wave of defenders to gain yards in chunks. Powerful runner who runs with good forward lean and doesn't shy away from contact.
Intangibles: Perfectly suited to Urban Meyer's system, but there are some questions as to how Tebow's skills translate to the NFL. Good size and strength for the position. Rare toughness. Natural and charismatic leader. Voted team captain in 2008 and Academic All-American in 2007.
NFL Comparison: Donovan McNabb, Eagles
Accuracy: Flashes accuracy to all levels. A bit inconsistent on intermediate throws that require zip. Throws some beautiful passes in tight windows, but also has a tendency for "wobbly" throws, making his passes a tougher catch than pure spirals. Typically leads his receivers, but still too often forces them to alter their routes. May struggle with the tighter windows at the next level.
Arm Strength: Prototypical arm strength. Can make every NFL throw. Can zip short and intermediate passes and flashes touch and trajectory on deeper throws. Only occasionally asked to throw true deep balls in this offense, but has the arm strength to do so.
Setup/Release: Some real concerns in this area. Takes snaps in the shotgun, meaning he'll need significant refinement in his drop-back at the next level. Quick, active feet necessary to eventually excel in this area. Has an elongated wind-up, in which he drops the ball to his hip before winding up to release the pass. Has struggled with pass rushers knocking the ball out of his hands, as well as tipping off defensive backs who can read where he's going with the long wind-up. Regressed as a senior with his fundamentals in passing on the run. Showed a greater tendency to throw across his body and off his back foot.
Reading Defenses: Only asked to make a few reads in this offense before having the green light to run. Seems to be a cerebral player who understands defenses and will scan the field to locate the open receiver. Protects the ball well as a ballcarrier, though the elongated release has led to fumbles.
On the Move: At his best as a runner and has rare vision with the ball in his hands from the quarterback position. Can anticipate holes in the defense and shows the burst to get past the initial wave of defenders to gain yards in chunks. Powerful runner who runs with good forward lean and doesn't shy away from contact.
Intangibles: Perfectly suited to Urban Meyer's system, but there are some questions as to how Tebow's skills translate to the NFL. Good size and strength for the position. Rare toughness. Natural and charismatic leader. Voted team captain in 2008 and Academic All-American in 2007.
NFL Comparison: Donovan McNabb, Eagles
Accuracy: Flashes accuracy to all levels. A bit inconsistent on intermediate throws that require zip. Throws some beautiful passes in tight windows, but also has a tendency for "wobbly" throws, making his passes a tougher catch than pure spirals. Typically leads his receivers, but still too often forces them to alter their routes. May struggle with the tighter windows at the next level.
Arm Strength: Prototypical arm strength. Can make every NFL throw. Can zip short and intermediate passes and flashes touch and trajectory on deeper throws. Only occasionally asked to throw true deep balls in this offense, but has the arm strength to do so.
Setup/Release: Some real concerns in this area. Takes snaps in the shotgun, meaning he'll need significant refinement in his drop-back at the next level. Quick, active feet necessary to eventually excel in this area. Has an elongated wind-up, in which he drops the ball to his hip before winding up to release the pass. Has struggled with pass rushers knocking the ball out of his hands, as well as tipping off defensive backs who can read where he's going with the long wind-up. Regressed as a senior with his fundamentals in passing on the run. Showed a greater tendency to throw across his body and off his back foot.
Reading Defenses: Only asked to make a few reads in this offense before having the green light to run. Seems to be a cerebral player who understands defenses and will scan the field to locate the open receiver. Protects the ball well as a ballcarrier, though the elongated release has led to fumbles.
On the Move: At his best as a runner and has rare vision with the ball in his hands from the quarterback position. Can anticipate holes in the defense and shows the burst to get past the initial wave of defenders to gain yards in chunks. Powerful runner who runs with good forward lean and doesn't shy away from contact.
Intangibles: Perfectly suited to Urban Meyer's system, but there are some questions as to how Tebow's skills translate to the NFL. Good size and strength for the position. Rare toughness. Natural and charismatic leader. Voted team captain in 2008 and Academic All-American in 2007.
NFL Comparison: Donovan McNabb, Eagles
4. Third Round, 80th overall: Carlton Mitchell, Wide Receiver, South Florida
6'3" 215
Until USF head coach Jim Leavitt was fired for allegedly abusing a player physically, Mitchell had no interest in leaving school early for the NFL. But now that he's in the mix, the 6-4 receiver has skills with which with his potential new employers will be happy to work.
In Mitchell's 2007 redshirt freshman season he showed potential as a big-play receiver by racking up 537 yards on only 37 catches and four scores. He averaged the same number of yards per catch (14.5) but had only one score on his 28 catches in 2008.
Mitchell led his team with 40 receptions for 706 yards and four scores in 2009, despite missing two games with a high ankle sprain and working with redshirt freshman QB B.J. Daniels after he replaced injured senior leader Matt Grothe.
Scouts should not write Mitchell off as a tall one-trick pony who is only able to run down the sideline and win jump balls. He has shown good route-running skills and more toughness than his lanky frame would indicate, allowing him to creep up boards throughout the draft process - as long as teams believe he can become more consistent catching the ball with his hands and blocking for the run.
Release: Gets to top speed much faster than expected for his height, eating up cushion and blowing by corners without great speed. Can hesitate to lull defender to sleep, then accelerate to get separation. Is not pressed much because of his size and speed, but seems comfortable giving a shake and using his hands to free himself from the jam.
Hands: Inconsistent hands and traps the ball against his chest more often than not on short to intermediate throws. Tracks balls over his shoulder, able to secure the catch when stretched out on deep balls or throws to the sideline. Excellent red-zone threat. Better adjusting to high throws than low ones, but can get down to make the grab if given room to do so. Loses concentration on easier passes at times.
Route running: Will round off routes at times, but sinks his hips coming in and out of routes pretty well for a 6-4 receiver. Stop and comeback routes are sudden, a dangerous combination with his potential as a deep threat. Uses a head fake to sell routes. Willing to find holes in zones over the middle.
After the catch: Not many tall receivers are used on quick screens, but his surprising quickness and length allows him to succeed. Turns on the jets after the catch, with his long strides making it difficult for defenders to catch him. Can be elusive on screens but fails to avoid defenders when on a dead run. Height makes him a target to be chopped down in the open field by better corners.
Blocking: Has the desire and length to take defenders out of the play when he knows the run is coming, but a failure to break down and mirror his man allows them to avoid his grasp. Runs hard and extends his arms to keep safeties at bay while blocking for fellow receivers downfield. Resorts to ineffective cut blocks at times despite have the size advantage on the edge.
Intangibles: Tough player who bounces up after the big hit. Confident, well-liked in the locker room who has worked hard to be more than a track star playing football.
**Projected Trade: Tony Scheffler to Browns for 3rd round pick (92nd overall)**
5. Third Round, 92nd overall: Jordan Shipley, Wide Receiver, Texas
6'0" 195
Shipley was mostly known around the nation as QB Colt McCoy's roommate and security blanket. When Texas needed a first down or McCoy was looking for a receiver on the move, Shipley was his primary (and sometimes secondary) option. But his underrated quickness and solid receiving skills should be coveted by NFL teams no matter who their quarterback is.
Shipley was awarded a sixth year of eligibility after the 2008 season due to his losing his first two years on campus to leg and hamstring injuries. Once past those hurdles he earned more and more playing time in 2006 and 2007, making a combined 43 catches for 646 yards and nine touchdowns in 26 games. Then as a junior, he stepped his offensive production to All-American status (89-1060-11) while returning both a punt and kickoff for a touchdown. In 2009, his numbers grew to 116-1, 485-13 and he returned two punts for scores.
His underrated quickness and ability to find holes in zones and gain yards after the catch make him a perfect slot receiver candidate - as does his toughness over the middle despite only adequate size for the position. Adding his return skills to the mix makes him a likely top 75 pick.
Release: Lines up at multiple spots, but should work best as a slot receiver in the NFL because of his intelligence and lack of elite size. Good first step off the line, although he is not up against the jam very often. Won't eat up cushion quickly or accelerate past pro corners, and must find holes in zones and run crisp routes to free himself.
Hands: Solid hands, reliable on routine catches and capable of making the highlight reel grab. Willing to go over the middle, or up for a jump ball, and absorb a hit after the catch. Allows balls into his chest instead of catching away from his frame at times, and doesn't always adjust to high throws well. Shows good hands and makes solid decisions on punt returns, and will take the big hit. Holds for field goals and extra points.
Route running: Runs every route on the tree effectively, and has a great understanding with his quarterback. Sets up double moves by selling defenders with a head or body fake. Best working inside in zones or on crossing routes, but has the quickness to stretch the field down the seam or sideline. Uses his arms and quickness to get separation on out routes. Comes back to the quarterback or finds a hole to sit down in when needed. Inconsistent sinking his hips to explode out of cut.
After the catch: Secures ball first, then changes direction quickly or uses a stop move to gain additional yardage. Better acceleration than expected, can take off through a hole in the second level. Runs tough with a nose for the first down marker or goal line. Some elusiveness on the run, quickly sidestepping oncoming safeties, but isn't a jitterbug. Aware of the sideline, tightropes to stay in-bounds. Solid kick returner, has good hands and runs strong but could improve his vision in finding the open lane. Lacks great speed to run away from defenders with the angle.
Blocking: Very willing downfield blocker on screens and run plays, but lacks the strength to be a dominant force. Sustains adequately using his hands when he attacks a man's jersey, but will miss his target when throwing his body at the defender.
Intangibles: Sixth-year player with exceptional maturity. Gives great effort. Leader on the team both on and off the field. No character issues. Missed seasons with hamstring and leg injuries, also missed spring 2009 practices with surgery on his right shoulder.
6. Fourth Round, 104th overall: Amari Spievey, Cornerback, Iowa
6'0" 195
Spievey's career began with some turbulence but smoothed out the past two seasons. He earned all-conference accolades as a junior and opted to enter the draft early.
After his redshirt season in Iowa City, the Oklahoma native was dismissed from the football program because of poor academics. He attended Iowa Central Community College in 2007, where he made seven interceptions (returning two for scores), returned two kickoffs for touchdowns and blocked four kicks as a Junior College All-American.
Spievey earned a starting spot before the 2008 season, then intercepted four passes and landed on the coaches' second-team all-conference team. He bested that distinction in 2009 by making first team All-Big Ten, picking off two passes (both against Wisconsin) and breaking up eight others.
Spievey's best assets are his size and aggressive play. He had 124 tackles in his final two seasons with the Hawkeyes, showing his willingness to support the run. He lacks elite straight-line speed and quickness and will likely go to a team that embraces his physical, bump-and-run style to succeed at the next level.
Read & React: Adequate diagnosing routes in zones and man. Can be a step slow to see rushing plays or double-moves coming. Best reacting to plays in front of him as a zone corner.
Man Coverage: Usually played off in Iowa's defensive scheme and was able to transition to face receivers and stay on their hip down the sideline. Could be an effective press corner, but needs to get his hands on the receiver more consistently. Strong enough to ride his man out of bounds if getting the jam. Loses track of his man when turning to look for the ball downfield. Plays tall, has a high, choppy backpedal and only average lateral movement. Allows receivers to eat up cushion too quickly.
Zone Coverage: Very experienced zone corner. Shows good awareness of receivers and closes on throws in either direction. Uses his length and height to knock the ball away. Flashes great hands, adjusting to high, low or wide throws, but could be more consistent going for and making the interception.
Closing/Recovery: Accelerates to the ball in his zone, takes the proper angle to prevent long runs after the catch. Able to knock passes away using his left and right hand without interfering, even when out of position. Recovery speed is lacking -- will struggle against double moves.
Run Support: Willing to attack blocks in run support to turn plays inside, but doesn't shed quickly enough to make plays. Cut-tackles and wraps in space. Crashes down and chases effectively when no receiver lines up on his side of the field.
Tackling: Flashes explosive tackling ability on the edge, will plant running backs into the turf. Effective cut tackler who keeps his head up, but should be wrapping up smaller ballcarriers instead of diving for their legs. Gunner on special teams, has good speed and strength to break through double teams but doesn't always get off blocks. Can wrap up return man before he makes his first move.
Intangibles: Has matured and improved his work ethic since blowing off his academic responsibilities. Humble off the field but doesn't shy from contact between the lines. Comes to the aid of his teammates in piles if needed.
7. Fourth Round, 114th overall: Ben Tate, Running Back, Auburn
5'11" 220
Despite being Auburn's leading rusher as a sophomore and junior, Tate entered his senior campaign hungry for a chance to showcase his skills. A classic I-formation back, Tate had impressed scouts early with his tough interior running, but was miscast as an east-west runner when Auburn converted to more of a spread offense in 2008.
Though he only started two games as a junior and had mediocre production (664 rushing yards), Tate considered leaving early for the NFL. He was rewarded with a return to more traditional rushing attack in 2009, and his production rose accordingly. Tate rushed for 1,362 yards, the fourth-highest single-season total in school history. He leaves with 3,321 career rushing yards, good for fifth in Auburn's storied past.
Tate lacks the agility and straight-line speed to be effective in every NFL scheme. Clubs looking for a traditional power back with underrated receiving skills, however, would be wise to consider him. His lack of flashy test numbers should push him down the board enough that he'll be available in the middle rounds - a point in which his durability and consistency should make him a terrific value.
Inside: At his best as a downhill runner. Thick build with good musculature throughout. Attacks the line of scrimmage and takes what the defense gives him. Lowers his shoulder and will take on the defender in the hole. Good toughness to run through arm tackles and get to and through the second level and into the open field. Keeps his eyes up and has enough lateral agility and acceleration to take advantage of cut-back lanes. Good balance, but is not special in this area. Protects the ball with both hands in traffic, but has had some issues with fumbles over his career. Good short-yardage who runs with competitive fire and seems to have a legitimate nose for the end zone.
Outside: Only adequate speed to beat NFL linebackers to the edge or to pull away in the open field. Flashes a quick lateral burst and shifty shoulders to fake out the defender, but has only moderate overall agility and acceleration to elude.
Breaking tackles: Arguably his best skill. Though a bit upright in the open field, he squares his shoulders and runs with good pad level when in traffic, presenting little other than shoulders and thigh pads for defenders to target. Keeps his legs churning after contact and will spin through tackles to generate extra yardage. Runs with good forward lean, almost always falling forward for extra yardage.
Blocking: Thick built with the strength and effort to remain on the field in pass protection. Became a more reliable pass blocker as a senior, showing improved awareness and consistency in squaring to the defender and providing a consistent pop. Remains too inconsistent as a cut-blocker, lunging and missing too often.
Receiving: Experienced receiver out of the backfield. Often lines up wide in this offense, but is typically used on screens and simple dump-off routes as a senior. Looks natural extending to pluck the ball out of the air.
Intangibles: Tough runner who seems to enjoy the physical aspects of the game. Has enjoyed success in a variety of offenses, leading the team in rushing yards each of the past three seasons. Voted MVP by his teammates after his senior season. Doesn't lack for confidence. Has characterized himself as the best back in the country and as better Heisman winner Mark Ingram.
8. Sixth Round, 187th overall: Myron Rolle, Safety, Florida State
6'2" 215
Rolle signed with Florida State as one of the elite prep prospects in the country, graduated in 2 1/2 years with a 3.75 GPA, left after his junior season as a legitimate early round NFL talent and was named a prestigious Rhodes Scholar, the preeminent academic scholarship available to postgraduate students.
NFL scouts are more intrigued by Rolle's rare combination of size, speed and sound tackling. A versatile defender athletically capable of contributing immediately, Rolle will be considered by the NFL despite the fact that he took the 2009 season off to begin studying for a career in medicine.
As if to remind scouts that he remained eligible for the draft, Rolle elected to participate in the 2010 Senior Bowl. How scouts viewed his performance there will go a long way in determining his draft-day grade.
Read & React: Good anticipatory skills. Reads the action quickly and has the athleticism to close quickly. Appears cautious, at times, and would rather make the secure stop than go for the big play.
Man Coverage: Smooth backpedal, but has questionable straight-line speed. Good change-of-direction agility. Reacts quickly to the pass and closes in a hurry. Lacks top ball skills and has only one career interception.
Zone Coverage: Prototype size and straight-line speed for the position. Versatile defender. Lined up all over the field for the Seminoles and can handle multiple assignments due to his size, athleticism and intelligence. Reads the play quickly and is seemingly always around the ball.
Closing/Recovery: Good speed and instincts for coverage. Rarely out of position. Locates the ball quickly and shows a good burst to close. Competitive and will fight for the ball. Despite his tools, has never proven to be a consistent playmaker at the collegiate level (one career INT).
Run Support: Good run support defender. Not afraid to get his jersey dirty. Will take on and discard blockers to get to the ballcarrier. Sound open-field tackler.
Tackling: A sound tackler, but lacks the explosive physicality some teams prefer in the secondary. Wraps up securely.
Intangibles: One of only 32 American students to be named a Rhodes Scholar, the most prestigious honor in all of college academics. Will be studying in Oxford, England for a one-year Master's degree in medical anthropology. Plans to work out with noted trainer Tom Shaw in an effort to remain in top shape. Despite not playing in 2009, anticipated being invited to the NFL Scouting Combine in February.
9. Seventh Round, 235th overall: Erik Cook, Center, New Mexico
6'6" 320
Few centers in college football win the Most Valuable Offensive Player and Most Valuable Player awards for their team to go along with Most Valuable Lineman. In part, that speaks to the lack of playmakers on the 1-11 Lobos' offense in 2009, but Cook's strength and leadership should not be overlooked.
A three-year starter, Cook lined up at left tackle nine times and left guard once on opening series as a redshirt sophomore before taking over at center the past two seasons. He garnered first-team All-Mountain West honors in 2009 by allowing one sack and drawing one penalty all season.
His brother, Ryan, was a second-round draft pick of the Minnesota Vikings who moved from center to right tackle at the next level, starting for two years before losing his job to fellow second-round pick Phil Loadholt last season. Erik won't be drafted as high as Ryan because of his lack of elite quickness, but may make a similar move to guard or tackle as a versatile reserve because of his size.
Pass blocking: Athletic and flexible for his size. Able to move his feet inside against quick tackles, and also to roll out with quarterback in moving pocket. Shows some nastiness and plays through the whistle when mauling inside. Good pop when trying to push his defender away from quick screen. Accurate shotgun snap, getting his head up to see and hit his man. When doubling a tackle, keeps head on a swivel to stay aware of twists and late blitzers. Gives good effort to chase down defenders making tracks toward his quarterback scrambling out of the pocket. Height can be a detriment inside, but his anchor is usually strong. Must get a bit higher on his man's leg to ensure his cut block is effective.
Run blocking: Quick enough to snap and get his hands on his man's jersey to turn him, take him down the line or just wall him off. Knows the angle he needs to take on the MIKE to keep him from the play. Will lunge when playing too tall out of his stance, allowing a nose-up defender to swim past him. Also gets his pads too high as a drive blocker, though he keeps his legs moving to push the pile.
Pulling/trapping: Doesn't have the foot speed to pull consistently. Gets a hand on players coming from inside, but doesn't move quickly enough to square up against them. Gets tripped up in trash so trapping may prove difficult.
Initial Quickness: Generally gets off the snap well whether quarterback is under center or in shotgun formation. Most starting NFL tackles, however, will out-quick him initially whether lined up at the zero or one techniques. Would be better off playing guard or tackle, where he's not worried about the snap.
Downfield: A bit slow to get his weight moving forward, but does manage to reach and negate linebackers, even after blocking down. Sustains by latching on and keeping his feet active, but may have trouble adjusting to quicker NFL defenders. Hustles to get 20-25 yards downfield on screen passes or reverses. Linebackers can disengage with a strong punch to the chest, as Cook takes time to get his hands up when on the move.
Intangibles: Intelligent player who makes line calls. Coaches and teammates call him a leader by words and example on the field, in the weight room and in the locker room.
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I agree
I like this one
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 9, 2010 8:31 PM MST up reply actions
not bad
like every pick but tebow i wouild take tebow ho higher than the 3 round
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+1
Just say no to Tebow!!!! Would much prefer a D-Lineman with that pick. Someone to groom to replace one of our many 30something players.
yeah we need
death at og c dt
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24
Lol
Where would we fit another DL? We have six starting quality guys, then Thomas and Baker etc. behind them
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 9, 2010 8:32 PM MST up reply actions
Like I said in another thread
The advanced age of our defense doesn’t bother me at all unless it’s used as an excuse to not invest in the future. We definitely need more YOUNG defensive linemen for future seasons.
I agree
Though they may be old, they were also very, very good when they were younger and they guys are good influences in their locker rooms. There is no doubt in my mind that they are there to win now and ‘parent’ young kids that are drafted.
Thanks
I don’t think there is any way Tebow lasts to the third round, maybe not even out of the first
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 9, 2010 8:31 PM MST up reply actions
Late first
Since when are you the sarcastic type?
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 9, 2010 8:49 PM MST up reply actions
No way Tebow goes in the 1st round. No way. 2nd round? OK, I could buy that….
by Gristle McThornbody on Mar 10, 2010 8:44 AM MST up reply actions
If he throws well at his pro day
I absolutely think he’s a 1st rounder……That’s a big ‘if’ though.
+100
Yup…it’s been the big flaw with Sayre’s past 200 or so drafts.
"Precipitation, which side are you on?
Are you on the rise? Are you falling down?
Let me know, Come on let's go, yeah
Got some if you need it!" -EV
Yeah
Well, we’re expected to hold a private workout with him, so maybe it’s not so out there like you think.
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 9, 2010 8:50 PM MST up reply actions
I don't get
why everybody is hating on Tebow and why they have to show the hate to everyone who thinks picking him up would be a good idea. I say screw the haters. Don’t listen to these Tebow-haters. Picking him up could make for a big pay day. Like you have said over and over, you can’t teach his intangibles. He is a special player.
by Nick Cast on Mar 9, 2010 8:53 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
No
MIGHT not. It only takes one team
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 9, 2010 8:57 PM MST up reply actions
To clarify
I don’t hate on Tim Tebow…I hate on drafting him with anything higher than a 3rd round pick…and I hate on the idea of putting a bunch of effort into him trying to become a NFL QB (which he is not and doesn’t have the tools to be).
Intangibles are only worth something if you have the tangibles to go along with it.
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Are you on the rise? Are you falling down?
Let me know, Come on let's go, yeah
Got some if you need it!" -EV
by sadaraine on Mar 9, 2010 9:00 PM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Tebow has tangibles
To say he doesn’t it just not right. He is an athletic freak, and we have great coaches at the QB position. I think our coaching staff can handle him.
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 9, 2010 9:02 PM MST up reply actions
Tebow update...
Turns out he really is not too smart. Wunderlic scored him at just 22
Not a McD type guy after all
Marshall stays
and we don’t get Iupati or Spievey. Then instead of Mitchell we get Asamoah or Ducasse. I like yours, but I don’t want to see BM leave.
dude gotta let go...hes gone. And i disagree about mitchell, Hes one of my favortie recievers in this draft
It's not an unreasonable assumption, Ken
At this point, there is no guarantee Marshall will be back. There is also no guarantee he will be gone. No need to disregard it completely.
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 9, 2010 8:33 PM MST up reply actions
I'm blocking it from my mind.
LaLaLaLaLaLaLaLaLaLaLaLaLaLaLaLaLaLaLaLaLaLaLaLaLaLaLa
I can’t hear you.
Ok...
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 9, 2010 8:37 PM MST up reply actions
Would you rather
take back BMarsh and risk another “Lets look at the stat sheet…oh look I got 100 receptions and 1000 yards again this year….now my thigh hurts”
I would take
Rolando McClain with the 6th overall then deal with Marshall’s unpredictable antics anyday
We very well
could get the 6th pick. Denver has stated they aren’t interested in trading. Sign the sheet or move on. As more teams like Cincy go in the race, Seattle is pressured to sign that offer sheet.
How much do you think his thigh would hurt if he was making 9.5 million a year?
I think that it would ease the pain. He could wrap that thigh in fresh, crisp 100 dollar bills and it would heal up nicely.
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by kentuckybronco on Mar 9, 2010 11:30 PM MST up reply actions
In my mind it's 50/50 as to whether he stays or goes
The QB position is set.
by broncofaninIL on Mar 9, 2010 8:33 PM MST up reply actions
Sayre..I could live with this..
the only major very poor judgement you made is with the 45th pick. With this high a pick you have to get an impact player and you know that tebow is not that type of player for about 2-3 years.
Now if you want him in the 3rd or 4th then the gamble may be worth it.
Thanks
Tebow is far from poor judgement. I do believe Tebow to be an impact player, maybe not right away, but there are probably no players who are going to be Pro Bowler’s from the second round as rookies.
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 9, 2010 8:34 PM MST up reply actions
Picking Tebow at 45 is the exact definition of poor judgement
Not to beat a dead horse, but you keep going there, so I’ll keep pointing it out: Picking Tebow that early is a colossal waste of a pick. I sure am glad your last name isn’t Xanders.
"Precipitation, which side are you on?
Are you on the rise? Are you falling down?
Let me know, Come on let's go, yeah
Got some if you need it!" -EV
Well,
Xanders is expected to hold a private workout for him, so go figure!
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 9, 2010 8:56 PM MST up reply actions
That's his job
Of course you would work him out. If I’m spending a 3rd or 4th round pick on a guy, I want to know what he brings to the table. We also need to see about how well he can do actual impacting things in our game like catch and run from the TE and RB positions…cause he sure as heck isn’t going to make an impact throwing it in the foreseeable future.
"Precipitation, which side are you on?
Are you on the rise? Are you falling down?
Let me know, Come on let's go, yeah
Got some if you need it!" -EV
If you're assuming he will be there in the 3rd or 4th
Then the idea is O.U.T. out, because he won’t be there at that point.
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 9, 2010 9:05 PM MST up reply actions
I don't assume that for a second
I know someone else is going to be dumber than we are and pick him up too early. My bet is Jacksonville. It makes too much sense for them to jump on it…and then I will be so glad we can be done with this nonsense.
"Precipitation, which side are you on?
Are you on the rise? Are you falling down?
Let me know, Come on let's go, yeah
Got some if you need it!" -EV
Ok
Think what you want
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 10, 2010 6:27 AM MST up reply actions
You know that's the funny thing
I’ve offered multiple times to put a $100 GC on whether Tim Tebow is going to be a starting NFL QB in 3 years, but Sayre won’t take the bet. I won’t regret saying it in the least. I actually have the courage of my convictions unlike others who like to just blow smoke and not put anything behind it.
"Precipitation, which side are you on?
Are you on the rise? Are you falling down?
Let me know, Come on let's go, yeah
Got some if you need it!" -EV
Let it go
I’m not making any bets, I just have faith in the guy as well as faith in our coaching staff. That’s good enough.
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 9, 2010 9:06 PM MST up reply actions
So do I
I will seriously question if Tebow is taken in the 2nd round or higher, but if McD and Xanders makes the pick, they have a reason for it and I’ll be interested to see what they do with him.
"Precipitation, which side are you on?
Are you on the rise? Are you falling down?
Let me know, Come on let's go, yeah
Got some if you need it!" -EV
Not to beat a dead horse, but you keep going there, so Iāll keep pointing it out
you opinion has been noted in triplicate.
perhaps you could stop harassing sayre as he responds to comments on HIS post.
as long as you're paying attention
Not happening
If it were any regular blogger here I wouldn’t care, but he’s staff. I expect more out of our staff than illogical opinions spray-painted with glitter to make them seem good…plus if you’ve noticed my opinion in triplicate, then I’m falling short since Sayre keeps posting this junk every time he does a draft.
"Precipitation, which side are you on?
Are you on the rise? Are you falling down?
Let me know, Come on let's go, yeah
Got some if you need it!" -EV
by sadaraine on Mar 10, 2010 9:18 AM MST up reply actions 1 recs
Wow, you're relentless!
I respect your opinion, and though I agree a first or early second for him is mentally challenged, I think a mid second is an okay risk/reward pick for Timmy. I look forward to your mock draft in the future to see what you would do, Sadaraine.
by SoCalBroncsFan on Mar 10, 2010 10:43 AM MST up reply actions
Wow!
This draft could make the Broncos contenders for years to come. I hope the Broncos roster has all of these guys on it in a couple months … and for a long time after that. These are high octane, high character young men who will only make our team better. Mix them in with the quality veterans we already have and you have the recipe for a winner.
THanks!
I agree. Lots of high character young guys mixed in with our influx of veteran leadership.
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 9, 2010 8:35 PM MST up reply actions
Like the comparison's to McNabb...
But didn’t we all agree (for the most part) that McNabb isn’t right for our system?
I fail to see that
I don’t think there’s any way McNabb could fail in any system. He’s a football player
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 9, 2010 8:35 PM MST up reply actions
Like it a lot.
This would add so much depth to a number of positions. We have a top notch linebacker, 2 tough, young offensive lineman, a good corner, 2 young play making receivers, an illusive running back and a highly intelligent safety. This would literally be christmas in april
Thanks
I agree, I think this is probably one of my favorite drafts to date. Lots of areas addressed.
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 9, 2010 8:36 PM MST up reply actions
Do you think
Rolle is rated way to low on cbs or is it just me? He was very impressive in the Senior Bowl and I just don’t see him being drafted that low at all
Possibly
The fact that his 40 (per CBS) was 4.71 doesn’t help him, especially since he hasn’t played for a year. He is rated the 7th or 8th S by NFLDS
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 9, 2010 8:51 PM MST up reply actions
Good picks but I hope we keep Marshall....
Call me crazy but I still want Dwan Edwards….at 28 yrs old he could be a force for years.
There is SO much Oline talent in this draft, we can get quality in 3,4,5,6th rounds. We could grab John Jerry/Mitch Petrus/Eric Cook/Brandon Carter; each after the 3rd round. These are no chumps…..to be sure!
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Actually, I agree
Not sure how enticing our situation is to him at this point, but I wouldn’t mind adding another big body to rotate in there. I love the OL depth in this draft too. Another name is Dace Richardson from Iowa. Big, big dude.
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 9, 2010 8:38 PM MST up reply actions
Yep
Spievey has been pretty consistent in these drafts. I think he’s a good fit for us.
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 9, 2010 8:52 PM MST up reply actions
In the second round
we will draft O-line or or a WR after trading B-Marsh. Not really a fan of Shipley either he’s already 25 as a Rookie.
That doesn't bother me so much
I still like Shipley, but you could be right about the other situations.
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 9, 2010 8:52 PM MST up reply actions
Not good
In the 4.5’s, 4.6’s I think
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 9, 2010 9:02 PM MST up reply actions
In the third round
Eh…Kind of.
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 9, 2010 8:56 PM MST up reply actions
Shipley is not going to go high
but I think 2 playing seasons from now he is going to be viewed as a steal for whoever gets him.
Sayre,
As I have said, I wouldn’t infer too much into the draft picks based on who we get in free agency. We loaded up on RB’s and DB’s in the 2009 free agency period. In the 2009 draft, we took a RB and three DB’s. I think we are just as likely to address our defensive line as we were prior to free agency.
With that said, this mock would be awesome. I am with you on Tebow and I am glad you haven’t wavered. I wonder if Spievey, Tate, and Rolle would we there that late. Love it, and would give my left teste for it. Thanks
Hah! Give the left teste, eh?
I am just going by NFLDS rankings based on where I pick guys. I was surprised to find Tate in the fourth, and actually refreshed the page haha. I think the DL acquisitions have some sort of effect on our draft simply because of our depth and quality of depth already. Next offseason is another story, but I won’t discount anything.
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 9, 2010 8:59 PM MST up reply actions
No doubt!
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 9, 2010 9:04 PM MST up reply actions
...of the world.
I hate Florida, but I just can’t hate Timmy. For that reason, I’m worried he may be the Anti-Christ…
by SoCalBroncsFan on Mar 10, 2010 10:57 AM MST up reply actions
I just got argued to death about taking OL at 45
b/c “there will be starters in the mid-to late rounds” which allows us to draft Tebow at 45. Now a 14 on a G and no one says anything…….BroncoTIllIDien, Kgrone…?? Goes against everything you just told me two hours ago. Nice mock Sayre, I obviously think differently in the 45 range, but love some of your other picks….Shipley, Rolle….I like it.
OL is a huge need as of now
Iupati has to be a real option for us. We should look to quality O linemen early and often, see what kind of guys are still there. There is a guy in every round I like for us at one position or another up front.
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 9, 2010 9:04 PM MST up reply actions
I didn't
talk about the 14th pick. I was consistent that in the 2nd round we could go somewhere else other then OL. if we end up with the 14th and not the 6th then it’s a different story. If we get the 14th then I would be down for Iupati at 14 or Williams at 14 while picking the other at 11. If it’s the 6th then I think we go for McClain and then the 11th we get Dan Williams. I wasn’t arguing to death btw I was just giving my opinion. Trust me I don’t want to attack anybody. If I wanted to attack and be attacked I would visit Bleacher Report a lot more.
The only point I made was Tebow could be a beast....
I don’t like drafting positions to fill holes for next year. I want players who will be impact players 3-5 years down the road. C and G are easier spots to fill than QB.
Tebow is a risk, but if he can translate to the NFL you could have an Elway/S. Young type player on your hands.
PFFFFFFFFFFFFFTTTTTTTTTTTT
I just spit up my coffee and puked in my mouth a little. I know you did not just use “Tebow” and “Elway” in the same sentence. Wow…that’s……special
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Are you on the rise? Are you falling down?
Let me know, Come on let's go, yeah
Got some if you need it!" -EV
Pretty bold
Especially considering we’re expected to hold a private workout for him
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by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 9, 2010 9:03 PM MST up reply actions
"Tim Tebow will never be a Bronco "
Praise the Lord!
All that you behold, though it appears without, it is within, in your imagination, of which this world of mortality is but a shadow...and one day youāll awake and find that youāve never lived and never died, except in the dream.
William Blake
lol
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by kentuckybronco on Mar 10, 2010 8:40 AM MST up reply actions
I see the light
God does answer prayers!!!
"Precipitation, which side are you on?
Are you on the rise? Are you falling down?
Let me know, Come on let's go, yeah
Got some if you need it!" -EV
Question?
Why Don’t you like Tont Carter or Josh Barrett. I ask that because barring injuries that is who will be gone if you draft Spievey and Rolle or are you thinking Rolle for Practice squad?
... if you have a belief, you will tend to find things that support it. But if you have a prejudice, youāll move heaven and earth to maintain it. BroncoBear
First of all...
I want to say how much I enjoy the take on all the different potential draft possibilities. I think your first two picks (granite one of them is completely hypothetical) are right on the money. I’m not sure about Tebow, but not against the idea if McD thinks he could work in his system. However, assuming the possibility that Tebow just isn’t the right guy for the Broncos, Do you think the team could go after a QB like LeFevour? And is Erik Cook supposed to be our answer at Center?
"If we cannot find a way, we will make a new one." -Hannibal
by AvalancheRescueDog on Mar 9, 2010 9:08 PM MST reply actions
AvalanceRescueDog
Just my opinion, but most people were not impressed with LeFevour at the combine. I think they look towards someone like Snead or Skelton if Tebow doesn’t work out. As for Erik Cook, I think he adds depth not necessarily an answer, He can compete with Olsen and there is a rumor that we are going after Mawae.
Good to know
"If we cannot find a way, we will make a new one." -Hannibal
by AvalancheRescueDog on Mar 9, 2010 9:17 PM MST up reply actions
Things are really starting to take shape
I like the draft for the most part. Although unless Tebow’s going to generate a pass-rush, I’d prefer a different route in the 2nd.
Good luck with the Redskins Mr. Mike! I'll be watching and cheering for a non-Bronco team for the first time in my life. Well, except when they play the Broncos!
As for Spivey and Rolle just good value at those picks
Let me as you a question do you want Carter one on one with Jackson, Floyd, Gates? or who else do they have Davis (total bust) but I still don’t want carter matched up with any of these options for Rivers. I really like Barrett but you can’t ever have enough good DB’s.
Sigh.
I just don’t get McClain mania. Seems to me we have bigger fish to fry than replacing D.J. Williams, or, alternatively, swapping out two-down backers. If we’re going to do that, why not throw left tackle and rush LB onto the possibilities pile?
It’d help if McClain were anything near the legend he’s made out to be at MHR. Instead, he’s a solid intangibles guy with questionable range, and who comes with serious doubts about his ability to cover RB’s and TE’s. The bright side, I guess, is that he’s not much of a hitter, but rather a solid technician…and he was pretty good behind that manimal line at Alabama.
At least we have a slightly older and more experienced guy like that named Andra Davis that can show him the ropes, eh?
"We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars."-- Oscar Wilde
by PredominantlyOrange on Mar 9, 2010 9:42 PM MST reply actions
I think the idea is more for McClain to replace Davis, there was a good post about the Davis and Williams.
While there is a definite possibility of McClain not being an improvement in passing downs over Davis, I think he has far more potential at this point.
by Galasrinion on Mar 10, 2010 12:39 AM MST up reply actions
Yes...
…but with an aging secondary, personnel and injury issues along the offensive line, and the need for another offensive play maker, it seems like like replacing a two-down linebacker with the 11th overall pick is a mis-allocation of resources. The problem is exacerbated by the fact that McClain may very well lack the physical talent to ever be a viable WILB. There are other ILB candidates sure to be available in the draft that either A) fit the SILB role as well as needed or B) at least offer the potential for an upgrade in coverage. With McClain, you might be slightly improved in base package run defense, but you still have that big old elephant in the corner in nickel packages— you have sub in somebody like Woodyard, who isn’t exactly a beast in coverage, and who is an abject liability as strong side run defender. You’ve essentially solved nothing.
"We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars."-- Oscar Wilde
by PredominantlyOrange on Mar 10, 2010 7:54 AM MST up reply actions
I could live with this
I’m not a big Tebow guy but I can definitely see a lot more benefit in drafting him than passing on him. He may not be a QB but he’s one hell of a cheerleader/leader/athlete. I like your style!
Come on...
Seattle, sign Marshall to a tender sheet so that we could draft Joe Haden at 6 and get McClain at 11. This would be the best two picks to start the offseason!
Say hello to my fast...
I really like the tate pick,
Hopefully he can hold on to tue goddamn ball lol
by BroncosFaN88 on Mar 9, 2010 10:41 PM MST via mobile reply actions
I really like the Rolle pick.
He might not be touted as the best safety in the draft, but his brain, alone, is worth drafting. Good player with great smarts. However, McDaniels is a fan of smarts. They are looking for tough, smart, physical football players. Rolle fits that.
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Sayre, I used to fantasy like that, but of course I've stopped that foolishness!
I love the mock, it’s great dude…
This would be the perfect draft for us if it wasn’t for Tebow. Give me a solid DL there (Carrington, Cam Thomas) and I would be ecstatic about this draft.
What happened to Toby Gerhart
there was a lot of buzz around him during the end of last season. We really need someone to pick up tough yardage and bully the defense, both skill sets he can bring to the table. I dont know if we have any picks in the area of where he is realistically going to be picked but there hasnt been much talk about him lately
Sayre, wondering what you think of trading down
I personally would like to see this more than anything, mostly because of the depth in the draft, and i think Devner will be right around the spot where it may happen 11-13 area. I see it happening if an OT falls or a QB. If one of the big 4 at OT falls (Rusell Okung, Bryan Bulaga, Trent Williams, Anthony Davis…. I dont know that Bruce Campbell would be the type of player that would make teams say, we must go get him.) I could see a team like Green Bay moving up to get the last Tackle from the upper echelon group
Broncos get: 23, 56, 183 or so(6th rounder, will change with compensation picks)
Packers get: 11
If a QB falls (likely to be Claussen if it happens), given that Ken Whisenhunt has not drafted “his guy” in Arizona, and the Vikings need for a QB for this upcoming year or the year after. A similar deal to the one above where they swap firsts, gain the second, and 6th. I like Arizona, Minnesota, and Green Bay as trade partners because they seem most likely to feel they are a player away from winning right now.
I am wondering who you would look at for pick: 23 t0 30 area? If it is assumed that we dont have pick #11, and Marshall stays.
Who would you look at with an additional late second rounder?
What do you think of the likelyhood of trading down? and if you think there are other teams that would be interested if a certain player falls out of the top 10?
Sayre it ain't so Joe
- 14 for Lupati is a little high. Kirwan’s mock doesn’t have Lupati going in the first round. I think he will go in the 1st rd, but lower than you have him. I think the Broncos will trade down if they have a 14 pick. If McClain is there at 11, they take him and trade down from 14. If McClain is not there, they may trade down from 11. Maybe they do the trade DW76 suggests and take Lupati later.
Okay Sayre I like with this draft,
Addresses our needs along with bringing in flexible talent. I like Tebow and love what he’d bring to the team in just pure enthusiam. He’s plan and simple and seems to know how to win. Just not sure the pick will be there, but, that holds true for all of the picks really.
I still think 14 is too high to take Iupati. There is also the chance we won’t have this pick as well if the Marshall deal isn’t completed. I could see picking him somewhere in the mid to low 20’s, however.
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"Hope sees the invisible, feels the intangible and achieves the impossible."
Please
Make this scenario happen. I like em all..
by WYO(MF)BRONCOBOY on Mar 10, 2010 8:54 AM MST reply actions
Great draft except....
I really hope we don’t get Tebow. First, I don’t think he’s going to make it in the NFL, and second, (no offense to christians) but I can’t stand Jesus freaks.
I don't get what your second point has to do with any of this.
I am with you on the first part. I am not especially high on Tebow right now(pending how his pro day goes), so I can understand where you are coming from on the first part.
However, if it was guaranteed that Tebow was the type of player that could take this team to the next level, I certainly wouldn’t pass on him just because he’s a Christian. That aspect of his life has nothing to do with football. If I was presented two players, one is Christian, one is agnostic, I would pick the one who was a better football player.
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by kentuckybronco on Mar 10, 2010 9:55 AM MST up reply actions 2 recs
Well said KB
Rec’d
"Precipitation, which side are you on?
Are you on the rise? Are you falling down?
Let me know, Come on let's go, yeah
Got some if you need it!" -EV
Explaining the second point
I could care less what religion a player is. But when if I had to see a bible verse every time I turned on the Broncos game, or end-around commercials about abortion, I’m afraid I would start accidently cheering when he got sacked. If I thought there was any chance he could put us over the top, I could suffer through it, but I don’t see that happening with him. And for everyone else that thinks I just hate christians, I don’t. I don’t care about the prayer circles on the field, players wearing crosses or pointing to the sky… it’s the people like Tebow, and Jesus freak is the only term I know to describe people like that.
If I thought there was any chance he could put us over the top, I could suffer through it, but I donāt see that happening with him
That’s fair. I feel the same way. However, I think it’s unrealistic to believe that Bible verses would start popping up during Broncos games. I really doubt that the FCC or whoever controls that stuff would allow anything like that to happen. It would offend a lot of people, more than likely, and would do more harm than good, IMO. I doubt that anybody would try something like that, because if the religious groups have any sense, at all, they’d know that shoving verses in people’s faces is a great way to push them away from religion, in the first place.
So, I don’t think you’d have to worry about the Bible verses popping up during games.
As for the abortion commercials, I don’t think our viewing of them would be dependent on whether or not he was a Bronco. That Focus on the Family commercial for the super bowl that had Tebow in it was aired nationally. Personally, I didn’t feel that the commercial was as offensive as it was played out to be, before it aired. However, whether or not he continues to do commercials for FotF is up to him and the airing of those commercials won’t just be for Broncos games, if we are or aren’t the team that drafts him. It would be nationally televised, in all likelihood. So, if he went to the Dolphins, for instance, and made a commercial, we’d still see it even if the Broncos were playing the Chiefs on CBS or whatever station.
Anyways, the issue at hand is whether or not he would be a good football player. You addressed that, already, and I agree with you there. I just don’t see why any of us have to throw religion out there into the discussion, because it doesn’t pertain to football or the broncos, at all.
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by kentuckybronco on Mar 10, 2010 12:03 PM MST up reply actions
Sorry, by bible verses I was refering to the black patches under his eyes. Every time I saw a Florida game it seemed like the announcers would always make a big deal of them and it got annoying to me. And you make a good point about having to see them either way… but at least if he’s on the other team I can be excited to see him get hit… Just like Cutler :).
Ah, I see. I thought you meant like during TV timeouts, Tebow would show up on the screen and read a passage or something.
lol
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by kentuckybronco on Mar 10, 2010 12:15 PM MST up reply actions
No, the blackout under his eyes
He always wrote something like JN: 4-12 on them, and every week he would write a different verse. Then they had to explain what they were every time they showed a close up of him.
Oh, I see. That makes much more sense, then.
Well, I haven’t watched any broadcasts of him. Mostly just the gamefilm with no audio.
I guess they never really stood out, to me. I remember that they made a huge deal of Reggie Bush’s eye black at USC. He always had his area code on there, which was kind of wierd, to me.
Interesting note I just found. Apparently, CJ Spiller had VCC written on his eye black, which stands for Victory Christian Church, the church he attends. Anyways, I haven’t heard anything about this until I got to searching around online for eye black. I don’t recall ever hearing an explanation for VCC before.
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by kentuckybronco on Mar 10, 2010 12:27 PM MST up reply actions
sorry, VCC stands for victory christian "center", not church.
Anywho…..
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by kentuckybronco on Mar 10, 2010 12:28 PM MST up reply actions
He went on national TV on the biggest broadcast of the year and endorsed one of the most divisive organizations in the country. That speaks poorly to his personal judgement IMO. If I’m a coach or FO person, I’m wondering if he is going to cause a big distraction to the team at a key point in a season.
Well, he believes strongly that he knows the path and he's trying to get others to feel the same.
What he fails to realize, is that it is off-putting to most people. (As we have seen from this comment thread and others like it).
I don’t know if it speaks poorly to his personal judgement or leadership in the locker room, though. Every report I’ve seen has touted him as a really good team guy. However, I’m more concerned about those throwing mechanics and his long windup. With quick pass rusher off the edge, that ball can’t be cocked back for very long or it will be knocked out and on the ground. I forsee lots and lots of strip sacks in his career if his form doesn’t improve tremendously.
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by kentuckybronco on Mar 10, 2010 12:21 PM MST up reply actions
Of course
In games it will be truly tested, but his form has been altered, and there is video on YouTube of him working out. It seems natural. You can tell when someone is forcing something, like if I were to try and throw left handed.
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 10, 2010 12:28 PM MST up reply actions
I've seen it.
Yes, it “seems” natural. However, I have a very tough time believing that he can alter his entire throwing motion in a month.
Back in my baseball playing days, coaches tried to convert me from a third baseman to a pitcher (I could wing it to first and they liked my velocity). However, my natural motion was pretty extended, allowing for lots of steals. Well, I worked all winter long, trying to adjust my throwing motion and got it to looking pretty good. When the season started in the spring, the first inning or so, I was throwing nicely with my new motion, but I gradually faded back to my more natural, elongated motion.
I fear the same for Tebow. It’s extremely difficult to change something that you have been doing for years and years.
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by kentuckybronco on Mar 10, 2010 12:33 PM MST up reply actions
BINGO!!!
Any “successful” and sustained musle memory, that will ultimately hold up while in pressure situtions, will take YEARS of practice!
-Stick to the fight when you are hardest hit - it's when things seem worst that you must not quit!
by BroncoSense72 on Mar 10, 2010 2:58 PM MST up reply actions
But...
…won’t prayer help?
All that you behold, though it appears without, it is within, in your imagination, of which this world of mortality is but a shadow...and one day youāll awake and find that youāve never lived and never died, except in the dream.
William Blake
hahaha
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by kentuckybronco on Mar 10, 2010 4:56 PM MST up reply actions
Uncalled for
Your comment, despite your best efforts, IS offensive to Christians. I’ll assume that’s the last time you’ll be saying anything like that, or I’ll bring it to John.
A vision without a plan is just a dream. A plan without a vision is drudgery. But a vision with a plan can change the world.
by Sayre Bedinger on Mar 10, 2010 11:18 AM MST up reply actions
Don't let it bug you Sayre
Go listen to the song “Jesus Freak”…if you are a Christian he’s paying a compliment. I’m not offended in the least.
"Precipitation, which side are you on?
Are you on the rise? Are you falling down?
Let me know, Come on let's go, yeah
Got some if you need it!" -EV
excluding bias for a second
Let me start off by saying that I also disagree with the Broncos taking Tebow in the second round. However, the price to acquire Tebow will undoubtedly be a second round pick, it is tough to argue that some team will take him by the end of the second round at the latest.
If i were a fan of another team, and I was making an unbias mock draft….given that the Broncos are rumored to be a team that will work Tebow out, and Kyle Orton is the starter (I love Orton, but other teams fans don’t look at him the way some of us do), a reasonable argument can be made that the Broncos may select him in the second round.
Again, I don’t want it to happen, and I don’t agree with the arguments for him in the second round….. but purely from a mock draft stand point, the scenario of him going to Denver in the second round is no more or less likely then Tim Tebow being drafted 22nd overall to the Patriots:
http://www.draftcountdown.com/sub/Mock-Draft-B.php
It would be nice to see these mocks have someone different in round 2 more frequently, because Tebow going there is just one of 64 similar scenarios that can be argued for where he will go.
my point however is that the prediction of this pick should never be called stupid, especially when you are reading a mock draft. Sayre has his personal reasons for loving Tebow and wanting him to be a Bronco, but if it was a different writer (ie; Scott Wright) it would be no more or less likely.
Gosh..
Gators QB Tim Tebow scored a 22 on his Wonderlic, Jimmy Clausen 23, Colt McCoy 25 and Sam Bradford 36 out of 50, per NFL source.
Looks like we can’t draft him now.. only 22.. pathetic..
Just kidding Sayre :-)
A couple of picks I’d rather have:
1 & 2. Jacoby Ford / Dem Thomas
3. Toby Gerhart
I think both of those receivers are there in the 3rd and Gerhart is there in the 4th. Gerhart would be a fantastic addition to our RBs and is extremely underrated IMO.
Jacoby Ford is the burner we wanted Eddie Royal to be, but Eddie has turned out to be less of a big play guy and more of a possession/slot hybrid.
I personally think Marshall is gone for the 14th.
1st Round: Rolando McClain, Mike Lupati
2nd Round: J.D Walton
3rd Round: Dem Thomas, Jacoby Ford
4th Round: Toby Gerhart
Our offense would then look like this:
QB: Orton, Brandstater, Simms
RB: Moreno, Buckhalter, Arrington, Gerhart
FB: Larsen, Hillis
WR: Eddie Royal, Gaffney, McKinley, Lloyd, Thomas, Ford (Scary)
OL: Clady, Kuper, Walton, Olsen, Harris
TE: Graham, Quinn, Late Round Pick
Looks pretty good to me.
Why does Madden suck at ranking the Broncos so much?
by ChristianL on Mar 10, 2010 12:33 PM MST reply actions 1 recs
Your second round pick is exactly who we are going to take...
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by Jeremy Bolander on Mar 10, 2010 2:26 PM MST up reply actions
I think we're keeping Marshall
I also think we’re taking Pouncey @ 11 and Tebow in the second.
Pouncey is better than and is more of a sure thing than Williams, Price, McClain, Odrick, and Iupati.
I think Pouncey can be on a Ryan Clady career arc. Wouldn’t be surprised if he was a 2nd year pro bowler.
The more I read, the more I think Denver’s the right spot for Tebow. He’s improving and will continue to improve. If he’s available when we pick in round #2, I’ll be SHOCKED if we don’t select him.
He’ll redshirt as an under center QB for a year and by this time next year, we’ll be talking about whether or not Tebow can take the offense over. In the meantime, he’ll get plenty of wildcat, short yardage, and redzone snaps.
I haven’t said much yet in terms of who I think we’ll take, but I’m going with Pouncey & Tebow (college teammates) in the first 2 rounds.































