Who is Josh McDaniels?
Here at MHR we often say certain things about a man we call McD, mostly cause I'm lazy and don't want to type his name, and speak as if we know exactly what he will do or what he is like. But I just realized that I know nothing about McD outside of that he was the quarterback coach in New England. I just wanted to take a look at some assumptions we hold about him as well as some history about the man. This is either facts about who he is or it comes from those who know him best. I tried to not include any opinion on him here, just a look at the man from a neutral standpoint.
History:
- Born in 1976, he will turn 34 this year. He was born and raised in northern Ohio, near Canton. His father, Thom, is considered a legend in Ohio as a high school football coach. Following his dad to practice gave McD a desire to coach at a young age.
- Played quarterback in high school and was recruited to play at John Carroll University. While only 155 pounds he made up for his small size with incredible intelligence. He played from 1995 to 1998, mostly at wide receiver, after switching from quarterback. His teammate and quarterback competition at John Carroll, Nick Caserio, also joined the Patriots in 2001 as a personal coach, the same year McD joined the Patriots.
-He began coaching at Michigan State University in 1999 till 2000. He worked under coach Nick Saban, who was a friend of his dad. Surprisingly, he gives Saban a lot of credit for the foundation of his coaching style.
- In 2001 joined the Patriots as a personal assistant, focusing on scouting. From 2002 to 2003 he served as a defensive coaching assistant, working with defensive back. He had great success, helping give the Patriots one of the best defenses in the NFL. He was highly praised by his head coach Bill Belichick for his work. In 2004 he made a big change to quarterbacks coach, working only one season under Charlie Weis, who left after the 2004 season ended. In 2005 there was no offensive coordinator, but according to the NY Times, McD called the plays, link. Starting with the 2006 season, McD took the reigns of the offense while retaining the job of coaching the quarterbacks. With McD at the helm, and talented offense, the Patriots set offensive records in the league. During the four years McD worked with Brady, he had the four best passer ratings of his career. In 2008 Belichick gave McD a 5 page paper on what it takes to be an effective coach, McD still has the original copy, considered one of his most prized possessions. During the 2008 season, McD lead the Patriots offense despite losing Tom Brady, to 11-5.
- A side bit of info, without McD, Belicheck is 51-62.
- January 12, 2009 McD was named the replacement to Mike Shanahan as the head coach of the Denver Broncos. During his first off season, McD made major changes in the coaching structure and players. His rookie season started out 6-0, but ended the season 2-8.
- Josh is married to Laura and they have two children, Jack and Maddie. Tries to shield his family from everything about the NFL media, but loves to have his family come to games, especially his son.
Personality:
- McD is normally has mild mannered personality. He was considered and seen as a easy person to work with, but as things grew more stressed, his emotions easily come to the surface. But he is also considered to be very stubborn, standing by what he either said or did, rarely asking for forgiveness. One example where this is true took place prior to week 17 when Brandon Marshall claimed a hamstring injury, and didn't want to play, which is understandable considering how the previous season, the Broncos had mishandled his injury. Due to his unwillingness to play, McD "benched" him. While this suspension wouldn't have effected the game, it was a decision made by the captains and McD as a statement about work ethic.
- As a head coach, his passion for the game has come to the forefront of his personality. Rarely showing emotion in New England, but in his time at Denver he has become a more fiery person. Two occasions I wanted to point out: the first one was after the victory over the Patriots, he ran like a mad man pumping his fist, possibly becoming his iconic image. The second point I wanted to make was when the Broncos played the Giants on Thanksgiving. After committing three penalties in the red zone, he gathered his offense and said the famous words, "All we're trying to do is win a motherf--king game!" NFL Network later apologized later but McD never made any real type of apology. McD has shown that he is a straight shooter, not one to mince words, just says what he feels. These two examples show a great intensity for winning and expects his team to perform.
- While many consider him to be a mix of Belichick and Weis, he actually says he looks to his father whenever he has a question and he models himself after him, link. Under Saban, Caserio said both him and McD would spend way too much time watching game film, and when they started working together in New England, he saw this continue. Serving under Belichick also had the effect of boosting his sense of self-confidence. Because of his incredible intelligence, he was taken under the wing of Belichick and was considered to be his protege. Due to his time spent with Belichick, he learned a some of the basics of being a head coach Belichick-style, yet still stayed close to Saban. His already strong, stubborn mentality was reinforced by Belichick's strong personality, yet retained his fire and passion for the game.
Things I learned:
- While New England's offense was based off of Weis's formula, McD reformed how it ran after taking the helm. McD's coaching style, offensively, isn't as similar to Weis's as first thought when he came to Denver, but it is still part of the foundation for his offense.
- McD looks to Saban and his father for how to base his coaching style over anyone else.
- His first pro coaching job was that of a personnel scout, and even after losing that title, he was still a major part of personnel decisions. During the 2001 season where he worked as a scouting personnel assistant, the Patriots chose Richard Seymour and Matt Light, both future Pro Bowlers.
So after doing this article, I can claim to be a bit more knowledgeable about who the man behind McD really is. He certainly wasn't who I thought he was, but he still is, in part, who we thought he was, a very intelligent, passionate football coach who I hope will be able to do good things here in Denver.
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Nice Post
For another take on McD’s background, take a gander at Doc’s excellent 2 part article from last summer:
http://www.milehighreport.com/2009/10/8/1075594/tales-from-the-sunnyside-mcdaniels
http://www.milehighreport.com/2009/10/8/1075514/tales-from-the-sunnyside-mcdaniels
By the way, is it too much to ask for another series of “Tales from the SunnySide” articles after the dust settles from the draft Doc? There were one of my favorite parts of the offseason at MHR last year.
by DoubleJay on Apr 17, 2010 11:34 AM MDT reply actions 2 recs
Thanks
I had read these, and while they do a great job of looking at McD’s and Belicheck’s history together, I wanted to look at McD’s life as a whole, not just his NE experience. I found that he took a lot from NE but also built his style from other people like Saban and his dad. But yea, I would love to see another piece in this series, but hey with Emmett, it will be worth the wait.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
by Topher Doll on Apr 17, 2010 11:39 AM MDT up reply actions
Thanks, JD
I’ve had some health issues that have made doing that kind of research tougher – It was about 60/40 between doing the leg work and writing the articles, and certain hand/arm movements are somewhat restricted. I still love the bio work, though, and I’ll try to get one out from time to time. I’m glad that you’ve enjoyed them.
It all starts with the lines
I wish you well with your health issues.......
Don’t let McDaniel know if you don’t want to get benched or traded. Seriously, Good health to you. You have a high value with MHR Best Joe
Good Post Maxwell.....
How much more can a Coach have on his resume. Played quarterback, wide receiver, experienced scouting and defensive coaching. Passionate, highly intelligent. What better a man to have doing our draft and team building
Nice Post
This makes me lean even more towards McClain being taken based on the ties to Nick Saban. I do recall Saban talking very highly of McClain. Should be interesting to see how that plays out.
By the way, I wish Emmett good health and hope for him to overcome his difficulties. He is always one of my favorite posters to read with so much valuable insight and information.
"If we cannot find a way, we will make one." -Hannibal
by AvalancheRescueDog on Apr 17, 2010 12:55 PM MDT reply actions
Thanks, and about McClain
Looking at him and Saban’s connection, I too like him, but had my worries, but looking at this data gave me a bit more confidence.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
So, if he is our choice @11 are you going to support McX
and this decision from the root weavils that will be posting “McDumbass” type statements? I know I will.
I don't 100% like McClain
But he’s in my top 5 players to pick if we don’t trade back. But I don’t think I’m the type of guy who calls the coach that, got to give a little respect.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
by Topher Doll on Apr 18, 2010 10:10 AM MDT up reply actions
I call him Coach, with a capital "C", but I get lazy at times, too
I do it for the same reason I call whatshisname, whatshisname… A sign of how much I respect them =)
A couple humle additions, if I may:
1. With McDaniels calling plays, the Patriots were in the top-seven every year in either points or yards, including a couple of first-place rankings and a top-five ranking with Cassel at the helm.
2. Josh McDaniels turned the waterboy into a pro-bowl quarterback and a $16M dollar man.
3. Josh McDaniels sold a young pro-bowl QB in 2009, replacing him with what was considered at the time to be a “throw-in” player. Under Josh McDaniels, player “B” outperformed the pro-bowler in nearly every major statistical category, including completion percentage, passer rating, total yards, YPG, sacks, and perhaps most importantly, team wins and throwing to the right team.
4. Josh McDaniels is a Rock Star.
5. Number four is not an opinion, so nobody better argue with me =)
Two questions Maxswell:
1. What’s the story on Coach keeping the list as a favorite posession?
2. Does anybody have insight as to how much McDaniels participated in the war room/draft strategy for the Patriots?
One more important note:
A MF Rec for yourself and for the MF Rock Star himself! Is it thursday yet??
Give me impact at center, copmetence at guard and an upgrade at linebacker - sprinkle in strides from having the same system for two years in a row - and I'll show you a contender!
by Alex on Apr 17, 2010 2:52 PM MDT reply actions 2 recs
I wouldn't call him a Rockstar
McDaniels performed well with throw in players, and I’m sure gave a lot of fans excitement at least in the first half of the season…but 8-8 was no better than Shanny the year prior (and to let the Charges crawl back to the top of the AFC West for the 2nd year in a row is unforgiveable I’m sure to the Bronco faithful).
But hey the kid has a lot of valuable draft picks ahead of him so the sky can only go up. Let’s wait till the 2nd year before he’s annointed…there were better rookie coaches in 2009 (insert Rex Ryan) than McD.
Disagree...
Jets had a cake walk schedule, and were given 2 games at the end of the season (frickin Colts…poetic they lost the big game!)
Denver harder schedule, worse player roster and still out preformed Shanny’s no 2 offense….I think I just threw up in my mouth a little bit!
McD WILL be a stud….and all these CLUELESS fans need to get a clue, do some research and get on board.
The crap that I hear from DP, NFP, and to an extent, here are just min boggling!
Not directed at you Jake…I like your posts and POV…just disagree here!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
I would agree boydy
If the Jets weren’t given those last two games they would have had a losing record and wouldn’t have been close to the playoffs. I like what the Jets have done, but they were given the playoffs on a platter.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
by Topher Doll on Apr 18, 2010 10:13 AM MDT up reply actions
I agree with the cake walk sentiment
though for the last two games only; I mean could the Bengals look more apathetic in that final regular season game? However…how the Jets tore through the AFC playoffs without a home game and gave the Colts a run for their money (at least in the first half)…I mean damn what a impressive campaign by Ryan. And I can’t imagine what that team will do if they actually land Asomugha.
Who knows maybe McD could’ve done the same if the Broncos got in…we will never know untill the 2nd year. And that’s kind of the point of my first post…there are things to be excited about McD’s tenure, but there is not a thing to worship over yet. Treating McDaniels with Rockstar/Lombardi status gives me an uneasy feeling in my stomach.
I agree with you Jake
on parts, and how this season will be a test to see how he does in his second season. And I don’t think people are being serious about him being a rockstar, or anything like that, but we can build him up and support him.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
Sure supporting him is fine
Like I said…the kid has a nice draft in front of him. And it’ll be interesting to see what he can do with Dez Bryant (if the draft shakes out that way).
Haha Thanks Elvisalex
For the additional info, especially 4 and 5. As for your questions:
1: If you are referring to the pages given to him by Belicheck here’s the link:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/jim_trotter/10/06/mcdaniels.belichick/index.html
2: McD’s role isn’t spelled out, but from what I saw, even after taking over the offense, he still played a big part in draft scouting and personnel decisions. But it’s not recorded exactly what he did.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
Thanks Maxwell
I knew about “the pages”, but I’d never read that story before. Very much worth the read. I want to rewatch the game now lol
Give me impact at center, copmetence at guard and an upgrade at linebacker - sprinkle in strides from having the same system for two years in a row - and I'll show you a contender!
Haha
The NE Denver game was one of the best this season, really awesome!
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
by Topher Doll on Apr 17, 2010 10:29 PM MDT up reply actions
Nice job Max
Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
Hey thanks
Always appreciate it from you.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
Nice Post!!
I learn something new everyday. thanks!!!!
rec’d because this not a mock draft.
Although, I do like mock drafts!!!
Haha
Couldn’t agree more, sad to see this get kicked off because of them, but that might just be pride.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
by Topher Doll on Apr 17, 2010 10:30 PM MDT up reply actions
I lawl at his face.
Has anyone else found that McD makes some seriously funny faces??? Especially in his live press conference, he would tense his lips and open his eyes REALLY wide. I find it funny. On a side note, i would NOT mind going after that blonde cutie standing next to him. I’ve already wrecked one B star level marriage might as well go for another!
Any movement in history which attempts to perpetuate itself, becomes reactionary.
- Marshal Broz Tito
I agree. He makes some funny faces.
Where he’s pictured next to his wife, he kind of looks like the monster in “Young Frankenstein”. It made me laugh. Having said that, I love his passion and his resume.
"People who live in glass houses...shouldn't."
by jayrockstone on Apr 18, 2010 7:01 AM MDT up reply actions
I was kinda surprised
By some of the pictures of him, but when I saw the picture of him and his wife, I really wanted to put it on here.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
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