Breaking Down The Tony Scheffler Trade And Other Thoughts
When I woke up this morning, I came to this website and the first thing that I saw was that Tony had been traded. I thought to myself, "Finally! I wonder what we got" The answer is a 5th round pick. We also gave up a 7th round pick. I read the article on the front of MHR and all of the comments below. Many people were upset by the compensation. So let me try and put some perspective on this trade.
We traded Tony Scheffler to the Detroit Lions in a 3 team deal. Lions got Scheffler and our 7th round pick. Eagles got LB Ernie Sims and we got the Eagles 5th round pick.
The following trades have gone through this off season
Ted Ginn Jr traded to the San Francisco 49ers for a 5th round pick.
Santonio Holmes traded to the New York Jets for a 5h round pick.
Donovan McNabb traded to the Redkskins for 2010 2nd rounder and a 3rd or 4th rounder in 2011
Kerry Rhodes traded to the Cardinals for 2010 4th rounder and 2011 7th rounder
Anquan Boldin and a 5th round 2010 pick traded to the Ravens for 2010 3rd and 4th rounders
So let's put his into perspective
A former first round draft pick was traded for a 5th.
A former Super Bowl MVP was traded for a 5th
A 6 time pro bowl quarterback was traded for a 2nd and 3rd/4th
A pro bowl caliber safety was traded for a 4th and 7th
A 3 time pro bowl wide receiver and a 5th was traded for 3rd and 4th rounders
So what does this all mean? It means that anyone who anticipated to get a 3rd round pick was crazy. That includes myself. This list of players really put it into perspective for me. How I ever thought we were going to get a 3rd rounder is beyond me. A 4th rounder would still have been insane. Santonio Holmes is a much better player then Tony Scheffler. Despite Holmes being suspended for 4 games, he is a very good player. Holmes could take this suspension as a wake up call. Assume that he sticks to the program and doesn't get into any more trouble, the Jets just got a former Super Bowl MVP for the same price we just got for Tony Scheffler. Tony Scheffler is nothing special. I'm not saying he isn't good, but he isn't anything special. He is good at getting open and catching balls, but Scheffler has very little blocking ability. That is one of the reasons why Tony wasn't a big part of our team this past season.
Ted Ginn Jr was drafted 9th in the 2007 nfl draft. He may not be a stud wide receiver, but he is a dangerous kick return specialist. He has potential in this league simply for his kick returns. Tony Scheffler is a pass catching tight end. He has been and always will be a pass catching tight end. He did not fit our scheme. He was unhappy and the whole league knew it. The second we suspended Scheffler in week 17, his value dropped tremendously. Nobody was going to pay a 3rd or 4th round pick for a pass catching tight end who was suspended for his attitude. We got a very early 5th round pick for Scheffler. It is good value in my book.
We didn't have a 5th round pick this year. In a typical draft, it's not a big deal. However, in this draft, it was a big deal. 5th round players in this draft include:
Andrew Quarless, TE from Penn State
Armanti Edwards, WR from Appalachian State
Pat Angerer, ILB from Iowa
Ciron Black, G from LSU
Ted Larsen, C from North Carolina State
Marcus Easley, WR from Connecticut
Charles Scott, RB from LSU
These are all players projected to go in the 5th round. In addition to the 5th round, there are players who slide from the 4th round. Since we are at the top of the 5th, we could snag a sliding player. Some may include:
CJ Wilson, DE from East Carolina
Tony Moeaki, TE from Iowa
Arthur Jones, DT from Syracuse
Mike Johnson, OG from Alabama
Dezmon Briscoe, WR from Kansas
How would you feel if we just traded Tony Scheffler for Dezmon Briscoe? or Mike Johnson? maybe Tony Moeaki? The point is that an early 5th rounder is a good thing to have in this draft. Like McDaniels said there are going to be times when you look at the board and can't believe a players is still there. An early 5th round player gives us a good chance of picking up a sliding player.
I know a lot of people didn't like the fact that we traded a 7th away. I understand the complaint, but come on. It's a 7th round pick. If we find a player that McD wants to get in the 7th, he will surely trade up and get him. So let's not get too upset about trading away a 7th round pick. Heck New England has 5 7th rounders. Detroit has 4. New England would probably give us one of their picks for cash for crying out loud.
One of the most important things that I take out of this is that we just opened up 2 more possibilities for trade talks. When McD became a head coach, it was his responsibility to talk to teams about trades. He had no experience with that. No team had ever had a trade dialogue with him. However, he just completed a 3 way trade which is not easy to do. With experience, comes comfortability. The eagles and lions just got their first taste of trading with the Broncos. It is a very big deal especially when it comes to the Eagles. They are rumored to want to move up to the 10-12 range. Since they just completed their 1st deal with the Broncos, it's not out of the question to say they may lean towards trading with Denver then Jacksonville or Miami.
As for my guess as to who we spend the 5th rounder on, I think it is simple. There was a player who was projected to go in the 5th round. We brought him in for a visit. I wasn't sure if McD would reach for him in the 4th or hope he fell to the 6th. Maybe we would trade and get him. However, now that we just got a 5th, I think it just assured that Armanti Edwards will be in a Bronco uniform in 2010. I for one can't wait to see what the 2 time Walter Payton award winner can do.
This is a Fan-Created Comment on MileHighReport.com. The opinion here is not necessarily shared by the editorial staff of MHR
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Armanti!!!!
I can imagine a day when there are hundreds of #16 Edwards wearing kids running around on game day. cant wait.
by Orange and Blue on Apr 19, 2010 4:59 PM MDT reply actions
in Denver, I dont have hundreds of kids.
by Orange and Blue on Apr 19, 2010 4:59 PM MDT up reply actions
haha I love what Armanti would bring
Anyone else see him possibly running the wild horses in Denver??
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big time
and do it well. I think Armanti would be a helluva snatch. The tape on this guy… If he were 3 inches taller he’s probably a 2nd rounder at worst. Great arm.
did they really bring him in for a visit? was it private?
by RockyMountainHigh on Apr 19, 2010 6:25 PM MDT up reply actions
Yes. I think I'm gonna post a article on Armanti tonight.
His video is impressive. Yes we really did bring him in for a visit. Idk if if was private, but we definitely brought him in.
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Great little bit of info
Thanks for putting this together.
I am a bear of very little brains and big words bother me.
no problem max
glad you liked it.
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nice..
good post, i was waiting for someone to post some sanity to calm the masses. Like i said in the other post. Sheff would have been a UFA next year anyway. So minus as well move up and get something rather than get nothing at all.
That said…..is anyone else worried we’re trading doom?…
Thanks
I actually thought about Doom being traded. I don’t think we will. I think we need his pass rush abilities. However, he is a weakness when it comes to run defense. His size is a disadvantage. Still I don’t think we will trade him. If we do trade him, it better be for some major compensation.
I always believe there's a reason why you go through everything - John Elway
October 11, 2009: Remember the McD Fist Pump.
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compensation
I think we need to sign doom to a nice contract because 1) obviously he’s a monster and 2) to send a message to the locker room. We get rid of cancers, no one is above the team…..but if you’re a leader and you have good production then you get PAID. I think trading him would hurt just because he is a good “team guy”, so if i were in the locker room i’d be like “the hell……..why trade elvis…….”
Strictly in terms of value though, what would you take for him?
I agree with that line of thinking a lot
I think giving him a nice contract shows that hard work does pay off. Doom is working hard so I think signing him would send a message. Hm. That’s hard. Well I don’t think he is going to be traded by Thursday. I think a prime target would be Miami. Nolan would love to use Doom. So assuming we trade him to Miami sometime after this draft, 2011 1st, 2011 4th and a young player. Something along those lines.
I always believe there's a reason why you go through everything - John Elway
October 11, 2009: Remember the McD Fist Pump.
Xbox360 gamertag: SnipeMeHarder
good point
about rewarding players who are team players.
Doom we must keep. When’s the last time Denver had a guy who led the league in sacks? Cutler and Marshall I can live without, but not Doom.
by RockyMountainHigh on Apr 19, 2010 6:27 PM MDT up reply actions
BTID...Deep breath...exxxhale...Good!
I can feel your excitement in my computer screen (it’s even making me read faster)…You’re like at the top of the stairs, it’s 2:00 in the morning, you can clearly see the “glow of the tree” coming from the living room, but you know that you are not allowed to go down and peek…Is it the bike? The train set? Maybe it’s the BB gun?
You are cracking me up…Too much fun…LOL
BTW…Another good effort youn man!!!
- Whatever "it" was that got you to where you are today, "it" will certainly not be enough to enable you to stay there going forward! -
hahah
it’s sooooo hard. I want it to be draft day sooo bad. It sucks cause I have a final tomorrow, but all I can think about is the draft! I want to know what is going to happen!!! Thanks for the comment BSense. And thanks for calming me down haha
I always believe there's a reason why you go through everything - John Elway
October 11, 2009: Remember the McD Fist Pump.
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A gesture of good faith
McDX made a very nice little trade where the Eagles got a very good player, Denver got rid of a turd bag and Detroit got whatever it is that they want with Scheffler and a 7th round pick. This could be a move made in the spirit of future dealings- the trade that will happen between Denver and Philly on draft day. Denver moving down through Philly may already be a done deal. Hello Pouncey, hello Tebow (though I’m not so sure about that one…)
I too dabbled in pacifism once...
by waltersobchakbronco on Apr 19, 2010 6:05 PM MDT reply actions
My thoughts exactly good sir...my thoughts exactly
I always believe there's a reason why you go through everything - John Elway
October 11, 2009: Remember the McD Fist Pump.
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Great Info - Tks
Well written and great analysis of the value this year, receiving a pick worth more in this draft compared to last year or quite possibly next year. One thing for sure it’s our 6th pick out of 137 overall means potential for a great draft adding depth and maybe some starters.
BTW; as far as Armanti Edwards he’d be a great addition to SpTms along with Brandon James stud k/p returner. However, I believe both will be among our first CFA signees. Just my feeling
oc60
I would love to add Edwards
Nice job BTID
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Thanks Sayre
I like Armanti a lot. I like what he brings to the plate. Good potential
I always believe there's a reason why you go through everything - John Elway
October 11, 2009: Remember the McD Fist Pump.
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We received great compenstion for a quiter! He doesn't like to block and that's what the system calls for...Bye!
Good luch Scheff!
Have fun winning 8 games this decade! You whiny-ass punk
by TXBroncoFan on Apr 19, 2010 10:22 PM MDT up reply actions

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