2010 NFL Draft - Tim Tebow
by ejruiz on Apr 22, 2010 8:35 PM MDT
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Welcome to Denver, young man!
Tim Tebow will get to wear his beloved Orange and Blue for years to come, just our different shades. Tebow has all the physical tools necessary to succeed at the next level and any coach worth his salt can teach someone with his dedication, willpower and athleticism the skills to go along with those natural gifts. I know it's become trite, but Tim really is the epitome of character and leadership. To put it another way: he is the embodiment of McD's ideals. He's tough, smart, physical, versatile, team-first, leads vocally, etc. We may not need another quarterback, but you always want guys like this on your football team. If the goal is to put the best 53-man TEAM together, how could Tebow not be one of those men?
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If anyone hasn't already,
I suggest you watch McDaniels’ pree draft press confernce and listen to him talk about Tebow. It pretty much explains it all.
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魏 多福
link?
I too dabbled in pacifism once...
by waltersobchakbronco on Apr 22, 2010 8:40 PM MDT up reply actions
thanks buddy
I too dabbled in pacifism once...
by waltersobchakbronco on Apr 22, 2010 8:46 PM MDT up reply actions
the site is broken. lol
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
PS3 ID: broncomaniac6
by Troy Hufford on Apr 22, 2010 8:46 PM MDT up reply actions
I posted this in another thread, but it’s worth watching again:
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=5118225
Tebow rebuilt, after only a few weeks. Imagine a full off season with McDaniels and McCoy….
do you have a link?
I too dabbled in pacifism once...
by waltersobchakbronco on Apr 22, 2010 8:38 PM MDT reply actions
Cutler
The only word dirty enough to make me happy we have Tebow.
by Poster_Formerly_Known_As_Royal_Fan on Apr 22, 2010 9:06 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
do you have a link?
I too dabbled in pacifism once...
by waltersobchakbronco on Apr 22, 2010 8:38 PM MDT reply actions
www.denverbroncos.com
It’s in the video section.
Step aside, my friend, I been doin' it for years.
Said sit on down, open ya eyes, say open up ya ears....
thanks
I too dabbled in pacifism once...
by waltersobchakbronco on Apr 22, 2010 8:46 PM MDT up reply actions
Rumors have it that the Broncos are trying to corner the QB Market!
They’re going to trade up for Clausen and McCoy next
McCoy I could live with
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
Daley for Closer!!
Here's a plus for Tebow...
I’m pretty sure #15 is available.
McDaniels G-Jacked the shizzat outta the Browns for Brady Quinn. Word!
Why did we just make our LT irrelevant?
by legendarywalton on Apr 22, 2010 8:41 PM MDT reply actions
Last I checked, we have two great tackles.....sacks come from both sides you know
Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.
The guy formerly known as ZAPPA
plus our draw, which Tim is the master of will be amazing to his strong side…
I cant stop war chanting....
by David G. Little on Apr 22, 2010 8:48 PM MDT up reply actions
Here it comes
The SECOND Orton throws an interception, we will be hearing about how we should be starting Tim Tebow. There’s no doubt we don’t start him next year. And if we struggle at all this year, we will start Tebow. If McDaniels LOVES a player this much to jump back into the first round to get him, you don’t think he’ll start Tebow as soon as possible?
"I tried to think of the most harmless thing. Something I loved from my childhood. Something that could never ever possibly destroy us. Mr. Stay Puft!"
by afeather on Apr 22, 2010 8:42 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Good. Tebow is the leader we need. Hes our QB, ortons a backup and always will be. I dont hate the guy but this position was the most disapointing for me. We can do better than orton, and we just did…
I cant stop war chanting....
by David G. Little on Apr 22, 2010 8:50 PM MDT up reply actions
Orton is a similar leader in the clubhouse....
And Orton is a better player at this point in time. Maybe Tebow can become better than KO, but that is a few years away at this point.
Agree
The young QB in the league that is playing the best is Aaron Rodgers who sat and was developed a couple of years before he became a starter. There is no need to start Tebow. Orton will be an above average QB this year. Let him prove it. Franchise him and trade him when Tebow is ready. then Denver will have more 1st round picks,
Derek Anderson is just as much a probowl quarterback as Jay Cutler
Very True
Though I would love to see Orton play for a long time with Denver, it looks like he is just going to help develop Tebow and hold the fort till Tim is ready to start. All I hope for is (and I hate to make this comparison) that this ends up kinda like the Chargers situation with Brees and Rivers…and have both QBs go on to have great success.
Can't be good
How do you think Orton feels now? Knowing regardless of his success, the Broncos future QB is waiting for him to leave.
"I tried to think of the most harmless thing. Something I loved from my childhood. Something that could never ever possibly destroy us. Mr. Stay Puft!"
I would be slightly peeved...but he has the skills to start at QB
and if Denver doesn’t want him I don’t doubt that someone will bring him in. I feel a really good season coming out of him this year
With leadership comes more than just trying to be a leader. you need respect, trust, charismatic enthusiasm. I think Tebow is a better leader, and I also think the players will respond better to him. Really, if your a Jabbar Gaffney or Eddie Royal and you had to pick, who would you rather have as your QB? Ortons a dirt squirrel and we support him because he is our QB, and i did too. But now we have a great QB. Maybe not skill wise, but Tom Brady and Matt Cassel were not great either right?
I cant stop war chanting....
by David G. Little on Apr 23, 2010 7:47 AM MDT up reply actions
Really though?
With the way we went after Tebow, do you really feel we will purposely keep this kid on the bench? Everyone says we let him learn for a year but I just feel we will be looking for an excuse to let him play.
"I tried to think of the most harmless thing. Something I loved from my childhood. Something that could never ever possibly destroy us. Mr. Stay Puft!"
There is no safe way
to let him play, besides…at least think about the fact that MAYBE McD is smart.
If he is as good a QB coach as everyone thinks then MAYBE he’ll be smart enough to shelf him for a year.
"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
- Thomas Alva Edison
"Success is not a place at which one arrives, but rather... the spirit with which one undertakes and continues the journey."
- Alex Noble
yeah drafting a hard working, intelligent QB with a real strong
that draws media attention is so dumb HUH?
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Apr 22, 2010 9:15 PM MDT up reply actions
Yes
bring in a hard working quarterback that is still a ways away from being ready to start in an NFL game and who everyone will want to start immediately. Everyone is going to push for him and we already have a QB who is very good. It gives headaches.
+1
Tebow may be great, amazing, the best QB ever…..in a few years, but how does this pick help us NOW? Are we okay struggling for 2 years with a weak O Line while we wait for Tebow to be the starter?
"I tried to think of the most harmless thing. Something I loved from my childhood. Something that could never ever possibly destroy us. Mr. Stay Puft!"
by afeather on Apr 22, 2010 9:22 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rookies aren't supposed to be the core of your team
Tebow will see some action, but mostly he’ll learn. And you can bet than Tim Tebow is going to learn and work on perfecting being an NFL QB.
As for the OL, you do realize that we still have draft picks left?
Owning the Patriots since September 9, 1960
Rookies can be the core of your team
Matthew Stafford, Mark Sanchez, Matt Ryan. There’s nothing that says a rookie has to ride the bench, so there’s nothing preventing McDaniels from making Tebow the core of our team. And I’m okay with that…..if it fixes our problems TODAY. But it doesn’t. Drafting OLine help later in the draft is great, but just like Tebow, those guys probably won’t start either. Pouncey or Iupati could have started day 1.
"I tried to think of the most harmless thing. Something I loved from my childhood. Something that could never ever possibly destroy us. Mr. Stay Puft!"
One player is not the core.
BTW Pouncey and Iupati need some work (despite what Mayock says about Plug & Play)
Owning the Patriots since September 9, 1960
We were going ot hear that with Quinn this doesnt change that at all
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Apr 22, 2010 9:14 PM MDT up reply actions
Think Urban Meyer's syetm...
Orton will be like Chris Leak…the pocket passer…and tebow will be brought along EXACTLY how he was brought along in Florida. REMEMBER…McD’s offense is based ALOT on Meyer’s system…Tebow will be a weapon is specialty packages this year…Orton will play for 2 seasons…gte his contract with another team and Tebow will be starting!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
+1
We live in an age when instant gratification isn't fast enough
by Brian Shrout on Apr 22, 2010 9:32 PM MDT up reply actions
i'm with you... I was cheering on that pick.
Quit drinking the Kool-Aid and start drinking the good stuff, and everything is always alright.
by Chuck "DeadDrunk" Breedlove on Apr 22, 2010 8:42 PM MDT reply actions
me too!
I know we need other things but this could be a franchise QB, mobile, smart, tough and with a strong arm………oh and he wins, and wins and wins…and everyone that meets him really likes him.
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Apr 22, 2010 9:17 PM MDT up reply actions
Wow...
I was not real strong on getting Tebow. But the way McDaniels pulled it off makes me more hopeful. We get a nice wideout prospect, Tebow and didn’t sacrifice much in the lower rounds. Thats a pretty sweet set of moves…
by charlesnelsonreilly on Apr 22, 2010 8:42 PM MDT reply actions
+1
This is what stands out in the big picture. honestly there aren’t enough roster spots to keep all those picks. so we only lose one 3rd we got from philly, and a second, and move down in the 4th. not bad.
by RockyMountainHigh on Apr 22, 2010 8:50 PM MDT up reply actions
God forbid we actually fill a team need
Instead of taking the most overrated college player since Ryan Leaf.
by alacy9513 on Apr 22, 2010 8:42 PM MDT reply actions 3 recs
Complete opposite of Leaf.
Stupid comparison but time will tell. I am hoping he is the next Steve Young. They thought he was a better RB prospect coming out of college…….
Let’s face it – Tebow is the ANTI-CUTLER
by OC Bronco Fan on Apr 22, 2010 9:11 PM MDT up reply actions
such a level headed argument
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Apr 22, 2010 9:18 PM MDT up reply actions
Let's see Leaf vs Tebow
And btw, I’ve not been on the Tebow bandwagon:
Leaf – 2 awards: Pac-10 Offensive Player of the Year; First Team All American.
Tebow:
* 2× First-team All-American (2007, 2008)
* 1× Second-team All-American (2009)
* 3× First-team All-SEC (2007, 2008, 2009)
* AP Player of the Year (2007)
* Davey O’Brien Award (2007)
* Harley Award (2007)
* 2× Maxwell Award (2007, 2008)
* Heisman Trophy (2007)
* 2× ESPY Award for Best Male College Athlete (2008, 2009)
* NCAA QB of the Year (2007)
* Sporting News Player of the Year (2007)
* Manning Award (2008)
* SEC Male Athlete of the Year (2007)
* SEC Offensive Player of the Year (2008, 2009)
* SEC Scholar-Athlete of the Year (2008)
* William V. Campbell Trophy (2009)
* Lowe’s Senior CLASS Award (2009)
Yes, Tebow does appear to be overrated (for those not following, please note this sentence is intended to be ironic).
We live in an age when instant gratification isn't fast enough
by Brian Shrout on Apr 22, 2010 9:36 PM MDT up reply actions 2 recs
I absolutely love the pick!
If you would have asked me 2 hours ago I would have said no way, but I watched his initial interview after being picked and let me just say he seemed the antiwhatshisname.
The locker room has done a 180 in 13 months. Love it!!
The QB position is set.
I am not a Teabow fane at all, but....
The last time we traded with Baltimore for a 1st round QB it worked out ok for us. I think the guys name was Elway or something like that. Here is to history repeating itself….
by MileHiMagic on Apr 22, 2010 8:43 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Oh please..do not mention Teblow and Elway in the same sentence
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
Daley for Closer!!
That wasn't a comparison.
Lighten up.
Formerly known as Hoosierteacher or just HT.
"I presume that all of you here think me worthy of pity. But Great God, when I think I was on the point of doing nothing, I consider myself worthy of envy." Jean Valjean, Hugo's Les Miserables
by Steve Nichols on Apr 22, 2010 8:46 PM MDT up reply actions
*Tebow
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
Daley for Closer!!
maybe not today, but as Bronco fans
I hope we can in a few years.
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Apr 22, 2010 9:19 PM MDT up reply actions
never say stuff like that. Jinx the guy and break the first denver broncos commandment, thou shall have no other QB greater than John Elway
I cant stop war chanting....
by David G. Little on Apr 22, 2010 8:52 PM MDT up reply actions
No Like
No surprise here that I don’t like this pick as I’ve expressed before. But I am curious to see what they will do with him. We do already have three QBs.
I will say this, however, we now have 4 QBs ALL who have been picked by McD. If he can’t find a winner out of these four that is on his head and he has no else one to blame. If nothing else it should be interesting to watch.
Whre does Tebow contribute in 2010?
Has the intangibles, but nwe just put up a 2nd,3rd, and 4th, for a guy that will be a marginal contributor, at best, this year. I don’t hate him, I’ll cheer for him, but what the F.
But they were picks we manufactured...
Again, I am not sure how Tebow will pan out, but it didnt cost us that much.
by charlesnelsonreilly on Apr 22, 2010 8:46 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
This point can't be made strongly enough
I’m not so high on Tebow in and of himself, but with this in mind, how can it be a loss?
by MarshallMcCard on Apr 22, 2010 8:48 PM MDT up reply actions
We got 4th back
Gave 4th #117 and got back 4th #119, so essentially Tebow cost us 2nd rounder + 3rd rounder + tiny move back in 4th. Not really expensive
Character counts
Tim has character. I think you can’t go wrong having quality people on the team. Let time judge
I half agree...
I am not down on Tebow but unless the Broncos have someone we’re not aware of we still could use a LB, a guard and…oh yeah…A CENTER.
I assume there’s a plan. Looking forward to seeing it.
McDaniels G-Jacked the shizzat outta the Browns for Brady Quinn. Word!
by TheMastermind on Apr 22, 2010 8:47 PM MDT reply actions 2 recs
Agree...
But you can pick Pro-Bowl centers in the 6th round (Nalen), pro-bowl LB’s in the 12th (Meck). I don’t know that you can stumble across Tebow’s in the late rounds.
Again, I am not sure what to think here, but it’s definitely a bold move and you have to at least admire how it was carried out.
by charlesnelsonreilly on Apr 22, 2010 8:49 PM MDT up reply actions
agree
Dawkins and Tebow are good leaders and WE NEED leaders and players that love Denver and WANT to play here!
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Apr 22, 2010 9:23 PM MDT up reply actions
of course there is a plan
didn’t all the movement and accumulation of draft picks to get who we wanted show that there is a real plan in place!
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Apr 22, 2010 9:23 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Way to Go Denver..
you are now officially the new Denver Raiders…or the Oakland Donkeys. Your choice. Tebow in the 1st round is classic. Thank you
Sincerely
Avid Chiefs Fan
Go cheer for Glenn “Ryan Sims” Dorsey and Tyson “Derick Harvey” Jackson.
THe Chefs will be 4-12 again in 2010 and half the stadium will be empty at halftime, just like the last few years.
Feel free to Drive out of state so you can watched the blacked out Chef games.
In my opinion.
by McGeorge on Apr 22, 2010 8:50 PM MDT up reply actions 2 recs
HAHA
Ok McGeorge…
Glenn “Ryan Sims” Dorsey and Tyson “Derick Harvey” Jackson are not as epic of fails as Tim “insert nick here” Tebow. Ahem..thinking about it…With Eric Berry tagging Tebow for two games a year for years to come should draw lots of attendance…oh shoot my bad. Tebow will never make it past the clipboard.
I hate Tebow,
but you’re full of crap.
by BroncosBassist on Apr 22, 2010 9:06 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
That's funny.
Tebow is as far from an Oakland criminal pick as possible. Then again, if I were a Chiefs fan right now I’d be grasping at straws too.
Formerly known as Hoosierteacher or just HT.
"I presume that all of you here think me worthy of pity. But Great God, when I think I was on the point of doing nothing, I consider myself worthy of envy." Jean Valjean, Hugo's Les Miserables
by Steve Nichols on Apr 22, 2010 8:51 PM MDT up reply actions
Yeah
Cause Eric Berry is something we are worried about
Hey...
Way to not screw up that number five pick in the deepest draft in years. Kudos!
by MarshallMcCard on Apr 22, 2010 9:13 PM MDT up reply actions
nice..........glad you have so much going on in KC
you got to spend some time here.
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Apr 22, 2010 9:24 PM MDT up reply actions
Yep...piss off...I am with mcG...cause Dorsey and Albert and Jackson have been awesome...and now Weiss wamts Clausen...pot meet kettle!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
The biggest hit on Tebow is his faith.
It is insane. How many players have a 70% completion rate? I like Orton, but doesn anyone think he (or Quinn) is taking us to a SB in the next three years? Tebow won’t either, but he’ll be in place when Denver moves to the next level.
Everyone is so focused on Tebow’s character (because it is so excellent) that they overlook his record. He was one of the top 3 QBs in the draft, and we had a lot of picks stacked up. This draft is deep to the bottom of the middle rounds, and we have the picks to shore up the team.
Formerly known as Hoosierteacher or just HT.
"I presume that all of you here think me worthy of pity. But Great God, when I think I was on the point of doing nothing, I consider myself worthy of envy." Jean Valjean, Hugo's Les Miserables
we didn't give up much to get that first
because we maneuvered so brilliantly with our 11th to fill our #1 need (#1 wideout). great day to be a broncos fan.
by RockyMountainHigh on Apr 22, 2010 8:52 PM MDT up reply actions
Steve
I’m not down on Tebow for any reason , I just want to know what he contributes THIS YEAR. Whether he cost us anything or nothing, he’s going to get first round money, to do what? How many wild horses plays can we have in a game, 3, 5?
even if he doesnt produce this year
we didnt bet the farm on this guy, granted we could have used those other picks on more needs but if he produces in a few years like he did in college MC D and Xanders will look like absolute geniuses. Not to mention Gruden is very high on this kid as well and he Prefers vets at QB.
"Iron sharpens Iron."
Tebow is the future of the Broncos and we ain't done in this draft, not by a long shot...
I love the team first atmosphere McDX is building in Denver. We can’t lose with that.
by bfree2bronc on Apr 22, 2010 9:02 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Too FRICKIN RIGHT bfree...amen brutha!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
Word!
We live in an age when instant gratification isn't fast enough
by Brian Shrout on Apr 22, 2010 9:41 PM MDT up reply actions
100% right Steve
its all about his faith cause NO ONE can argue his numbers
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Apr 22, 2010 9:29 PM MDT up reply actions
other than the numbers came from a spread offense...
which really inflates numbers.
by MountainManMike on Apr 23, 2010 3:05 AM MDT up reply actions
The draft experts thought Tebow was a good prospect.
They were talking the guy up on ESPN, UNTIL Denver took him.
Formerly known as Hoosierteacher or just HT.
"I presume that all of you here think me worthy of pity. But Great God, when I think I was on the point of doing nothing, I consider myself worthy of envy." Jean Valjean, Hugo's Les Miserables
Intellegence wade throught the crap being said here tonight Steve...
It’s sad that we as Broncos fans can’t trust the intellenge of our FO and Head Coach. These fans are wishy-washy and only want what they want, not what’s best for the Bronco…
by bfree2bronc on Apr 22, 2010 9:06 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
yup
He was great until we took him. Now he’s a dog.
by BroncosBassist on Apr 22, 2010 9:07 PM MDT up reply actions
Not my choice, but interesting none the less
I am on record opposing this pick, but there are things to like about Tebow.
He certainly is an imposing physical player. Big, strong, fast, and tough as nails.
He has a great work ethic, and an even better attitude.
He protects that ball, and has pretty good accuracy.
He will be a nightmare for opposing defenses to scheme against.
He does not do drugs, beat or rape women, get into drunken brawls, or refuse to return his bosses phone call.
I will be very interested to watch him develop, and to see how we might use him this year while he learns the ropes. I think it is possible, but not probable, that he progresses faster than anyone expects and becomes the starter this year. He has the desire, the smarts, and the physical tools to make it happen, not to mention the added incentive to prove all the haters and doubters wrong. While he was not one of my choices, I will still cheer for him and root for him to succeed.
He is a Bronco, after all.
by ITPro on Apr 22, 2010 8:50 PM MDT reply actions 4 recs
EXACTLY
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Apr 22, 2010 9:31 PM MDT up reply actions
Listen
I was a big time Tebow hater, maybe still am a little. But none of it was his doing, aside from the constant religious bombardment (which is an entirely different subject not worth the text).
From a pure fan of the game perspective, I like this pick. It provides excitement and a reason to pay attention. You can’t deny the impact he can have on a game or a team, and hopefully some of that translates to the league.
For those of you crying about passing on someone like Williams…what I’m supposed to be upset about passing on a late first DT or someone of that ilk? Big deal. Give me Thomas and Tebow. I’ll take that package of pure talent, character, and exciting potential over anything else.
Perhaps someone could clear up what picks we have left? Do we not still have a 2nd, two 3rds, and a 4th even after trading up for Tebow?
by WABronco on Apr 22, 2010 8:50 PM MDT reply actions 10 recs
rec'd!
Formerly known as Hoosierteacher or just HT.
"I presume that all of you here think me worthy of pity. But Great God, when I think I was on the point of doing nothing, I consider myself worthy of envy." Jean Valjean, Hugo's Les Miserables
by Steve Nichols on Apr 22, 2010 8:52 PM MDT up reply actions
rec'd
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Apr 22, 2010 9:33 PM MDT up reply actions
Well said.......rec'd
Floyd Little: HOF Class of 2010.
2009 NBA Champions L.A Lakers
2009 NBA Finals MVP Kobe Bryant
what ilk exactly?
I was pissed we didn’t draft Williams. I hate this pick.
I …like everybody, like this kid a LOT… but McD can maybe make something out of this kid.
He must believe he can right?
More power to him.
Here we go.
go Broncos
by Whidbey Bronco on Apr 22, 2010 9:56 PM MDT up reply actions
Short yardage/red zone packages
I am one who has strong doubts Tebow is a NFL QB. That being said, I do think he is a special talent and could help fill a need on situations like short yardage or in the Red Zone. The stats may not bear it out, but I could remember a lot of 3rd/1 anf 4th/1 which were not made…and settling for a lot of close fgs.
It is reported that Tebow has already signed a ten year contract..
He has accepted $25 per year and will be donating it all to water well building efforts in Africa.
Good Question...
I don’t know but I do know that most people wear Superman pajamas, while Superman wears Tim Tebow pajamas.
I donate quite a bit to those projects too
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Apr 22, 2010 9:33 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ever read "Cold Hard Football Facts"?
I didn’t believe in Tebow until I read their article on him, comparing him to the last five SEC quarterbacks drafted high.
They’re stat men, and think he could be the best ever…
http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/11_3171_A_tale_of_six_quarterbacks.html
"Remember, it's only a game."
by robswenson on Apr 22, 2010 8:52 PM MDT reply actions 6 recs
Yes, this is a MUST read.
Rob, you should make a fanpost about this. It is very enlightening
I too dabbled in pacifism once...
by waltersobchakbronco on Apr 22, 2010 8:53 PM MDT up reply actions
I gotta be honest
I was skeptical at first because I was simply misinformed about him. But the more I read up on him and saw the tape and his interviews (the way he talks about football), he’s impossible not to like as a prospect. McD will do wonders with him. Mark it. If he can turn a college backup into a franchise qb (or at least get paid like one), imagine what he could do with possibly the greatest college player of all time?
by RockyMountainHigh on Apr 22, 2010 8:55 PM MDT up reply actions
Why does everyone think McD will turn him into a great QB?
He’s no Tom Brady
Troy Tulowitzki - Best SS in the MLB - 2010 MVP
Brad Hawpe - Will prove the doubters wrong
Todd Helton - Time for his ring to come true
Daley for Closer!!
tom brady was no tom brady before he became tom brady either
say that out loud fast 5 times. did you think tom brady would be tom brady when the pats took him?
by RockyMountainHigh on Apr 22, 2010 9:00 PM MDT up reply actions
he's got a better track record of developping qbs
than most coaches at such a young age that’s for damn sure. no debate about that.
by RockyMountainHigh on Apr 22, 2010 9:01 PM MDT up reply actions
I went to Illinois and watched Brady as a college QB in the flesh.
If you would have told me he would be what he is today, I would have laughed in your face.
Tebow is working on mechanics. They changed after three weeks. Most people said Urban Meyer did a terrible job preparing him for the NFL. If that is true, what will happen if he actually gets COACHING? Did he really play on pure, raw talent these past years? If so, the ceiling is very high.
This...
I think is the multi-million dollar question.
I’ve watched his FLA game film… Tebow doesn’t look like a guy that will succeed in the NFL. His release was terrible, his mid/deep passes not terribly accurate, and he was running a dumbed down offense that didn’t really have more than 1 or 2 reads before he took off running. It SCREAMS bust.
That said, he has great intangibles, and will work as hard as anyone to improve. The question of his new mechanics, and whether he can actually switch his muscle memory to them, while learning how to read a pro defense. McD saw his new mechanics just last week, so he knows more than we do. The tape isn’t good… but McD hopefully knows something we don’t. Don’t kind yourself…its a BIG risk… but the upside is huge.
We’ll see…
How did you acquire actual game film?
Or did you just watch it on TV?
Owning the Patriots since September 9, 1960
He has the potential to be better
Naturally stronger and more mobile…..given the right coaching of course.
"as in football so in life"
2 College backups
Brady backed up Griese at Michigan.
Derek Anderson is just as much a probowl quarterback as Jay Cutler
I was just coming over to link that
I was firmly in the skeptics camp, but that article’s converted me at least to cautiously hopeful. I’m a big stats nut and believer in passing efficiency too, so I put a lot of stock in the CHFF folks’ opinions. I knew Tebow had decent passing stats, but I had no idea he put up such ridiculously efficient passing numbers. Wow.
awesome!
I love hard cold facts that make the pundits look like doofs.
Thanks for posting the link!
I feel better the more I learn about his talent…Now I cant wait to see him in action!
I hope he plays in the pre-season!
"Iron sharpens Iron."
Wowzers. I don;t know what McD has done to our team, but I hope he does.
He better put together a good season in 2010 or his butt will be burning up on the hot seat in 2011.
Who knows. This is crazy. Maybe these guys will turn out to be great and maybe they’ll be Alphonso Smith’s.
I’m vexed and don’t know what to say or think.
In my opinion.
but you're damn intrigued aren't ya?
hehehe. everyone is. that’s the beauty of it.
by RockyMountainHigh on Apr 22, 2010 8:59 PM MDT up reply actions
The beauty is ONLY winning. Losing with guys like Tebow or Marshall sucks the exact same.
McD better freaking win in 2010. I don’t give a crap about having a team of nice guy losers. If we have nice guys, they still better win on Sunday.
In my opinion.
by McGeorge on Apr 22, 2010 9:02 PM MDT up reply actions 2 recs
the broncos fo did do a good job of free agents to help with our problems last year if we can get some oline help in the upcoming rounds i think we"ll be just fine.
by tulsabroncofan on Apr 22, 2010 9:15 PM MDT up reply actions
I’m worried. We got the shaft on the schedule this year.
by BroncosBassist on Apr 22, 2010 9:08 PM MDT up reply actions
</bloHe better put together a good season in 2010 or his butt will be burning up on the hot seat in 2011.ckquote>
Not going to happen now. McD will be here awhile to see this Tebow thing through.
by Gristle McThornbody on Apr 22, 2010 9:01 PM MDT up reply actions
Come on, man. 4-12?? Seriously now. I thought that kind of talk was over and done with when Cutler was traded away.
The sky is NOT falling…..
by Gristle McThornbody on Apr 22, 2010 9:09 PM MDT up reply actions
Who knows. We’ll need to score points in 2010. Our O sucked last season. Not sure we have the ponies to put points on the board. Will depend A LOT on the two guys we got tonight.
In my opinion.
Matt Tennant is still out there, along with a couple of other highly regarded O line prospects. STill plenty of time to address the O and D lines. And I agree with you, both of those still need an infusion of talent.
by Gristle McThornbody on Apr 22, 2010 9:42 PM MDT up reply actions
C'mon McGeorge we aren't going to be 4-12 unless we are devastated
with injuries…….
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Apr 22, 2010 9:44 PM MDT up reply actions
yeah, if all you want is a QB
Tebow is more than that- versatility
I too dabbled in pacifism once...
by waltersobchakbronco on Apr 22, 2010 8:54 PM MDT up reply actions
Yeah, but Clausen is a QB
Something Tebow is sorely lacking
Clausen = punk
he just begs to be punched in the face.
by charlesnelsonreilly on Apr 22, 2010 8:55 PM MDT up reply actions
Okay
so why draft another QB after we just picked up the mighty Quinn … if you were not sure about Quinn … then why trade for him … So now we have 4 QB’s does this leave Tommy B the odd man out … or does this mean that Orton will not be resigned?
because quinn was a cheap way to replace a terrible backup quarterback
by the name of chris simms. who’s apparently a great guy, but not a terrible backup quarterback.
we did not give up a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, or even a 5th for quinn. he was cheap. he’s not a big investment.
by RockyMountainHigh on Apr 22, 2010 8:58 PM MDT up reply actions
Agree
And if we get rid of Tom B., then is that admitting we made a mistake drafting him?
"I tried to think of the most harmless thing. Something I loved from my childhood. Something that could never ever possibly destroy us. Mr. Stay Puft!"
Nothing to lose
One of the four has to work out. They’ve all got talent. Why not?
I think the key to the Tebow move is how McD pulled it off...
He manufactured the picks from leveraging other picks. We still have three picks in the 2nd and 3rd round.
by charlesnelsonreilly on Apr 22, 2010 8:54 PM MDT reply actions
Before I head to bed, I have to say this, Tim Tebow will be all the class of Rod Smith...............and more
I like the pick!!!!!!!!!!!
Guardian of the Gate to La La Land!
Gonsoulin, Taylor, Wright, Gradishar, Atwater, Davis, and Sharpe...
Why are they not in the Hall...I just don't understand.
by Mike Clark on Apr 22, 2010 8:56 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
That is a true statement
and he will work just as hard and have a huge impact in the city
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Apr 22, 2010 9:48 PM MDT up reply actions
I remember last time someone won a football game thanks to their class
Wait….no I don’t, thats never happened.
Hey tricks
Sometimes its better to not say anything and let people think you’re an idiot than to open your mouth and remove all doubt
The QB position is set.
by broncofaninIL on Apr 22, 2010 10:15 PM MDT up reply actions
my thought exactly! lol
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Apr 22, 2010 9:27 PM MDT up reply actions
What nonsense
What are people talking about when they say that Tebow didn’t cost us anything. Have you lost your marbles? Don’t you know what about Opportunity Cost. Tebow cost us exactly the caliber of player we could have got at this point in the draft if we had picked someone other than him. And given our needs in other areas, and given the fact we already have three QBs, this was an extremely expensive pick. Let’s hope it was worth it.
right
It could work out fine, but we passed on some serious studs and gave up decent picks where we could have taken more studs. Hope he works out.
by BroncosBassist on Apr 22, 2010 9:10 PM MDT up reply actions
You can see this about McD....
He has been the most entertaining coach we have ever had. I don’t know whether to laugh or cry, but it is good theater. My head is spinning…I don’t know if it is good or bad. I’ve never been so confused about my team.
"Pain don't hurt" - Swayze (Road House) -- We miss you man!
by bonaire on Apr 22, 2010 8:58 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
If you think about it, we swapped our second second rounder and a fourth round pick
for and extra third and an extra FIRST round pick..
That doesn’t sound to bad to me..
Does it make you cringe
That Shanahan is putting together a dominating team in Washington, while MCD puts together a side show here in Denver?
what makes me cringe is statements like that
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Apr 22, 2010 9:49 PM MDT up reply actions
Coady...can you please go back to KC
Shanahans backfield is experienced, our D Line is old. Now I get it.
Befrore we annoint them Super Bowl champion how about we let them play a game? And no I’m just fine with Coach McDaniels.
Are you lost?
The QB position is set.
by broncofaninIL on Apr 22, 2010 10:18 PM MDT up reply actions
What about Clady?
We have a superstar LT to protect a QB’s blind side. Tebow’s blind side is the other side. Assuming for the sake of argument that Tebow becomes competent enough to play QB, does Clady merit the superstar left tackle money? Will he become tradable? Probably not. However, Ryan Harris is now suddenly more important. How’s his health?
First I've heard this point, and it's a good one
"I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." - Albert Einstein
by Andrew T. Fisher on Apr 22, 2010 9:45 PM MDT up reply actions
Defenses don't flip their rushers, so it's not really that important.
Owning the Patriots since September 9, 1960
totally overrated
Defenses move the pass-rushers around so much, the blindside is kind of irrelevant. You have to have guys that can pass protect one on one on both sides in today’s NFL.
The blind side of the QB was more about where teams lined up their best passrusher, which was more about getting away from the chipping TE and being able to use smaller guys with speed on the edge… it had little to do with the QB’s vision.
With the new great LTs, teams have also been moving those passrushers around, further diluting the effect. Think about how often we had Doom attacking the RT.
Plus Clady and Harris are both fine. Both can go one on one.
This is not something to worry about.
Is it just me
or did we convert one first round pick into two first round picks and get quality players and still have picks left…Nice!!!
McX
had a great first day. got two first rounders at no big cost.
by RockyMountainHigh on Apr 22, 2010 9:05 PM MDT up reply actions
He basically cost half of Marshall...
…and a bunch of manufactured picks— so that’s the upside.
Otherwise….I have no idea what to think.
Denialists replace the open-minded skepticism of science with the inflexible certainty of ideological commitment.-- Michael Spector
by PredominantlyOrange on Apr 22, 2010 9:01 PM MDT reply actions
I hated this pick.
Mostly because I am a Chief fan. I of course want you to fail more than anyone, but I’m afraid Tebow won’t let this happen.
A man without a mustache is like a cup of tea without Sugar
by craig in calgary on Apr 22, 2010 9:08 PM MDT reply actions
Well, I have to say
that I"m not looking forward to seeing Eric Berry twice a year.
by BroncosBassist on Apr 22, 2010 9:12 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Tim and Quinn
can compare bicepts and abs…
ha
ya, and Orton will develop some…envy over the size of their guns!
by Merlin Scott on Apr 22, 2010 9:20 PM MDT up reply actions
There is no chin beneath Orton's neckbeard.
There is only another fist…
Hey kiddies.... I have Internet candy in my van...
by papigrande on Apr 22, 2010 9:37 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
So..... quiet offseason?
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
PS3 ID: broncomaniac6
Hate it!!!
McDaniels thinks he can make potato salad our of potato sh*t.
McDaniels is a moron – hmmm trade a bunch of picks for Brady Quinn and then WAY over pay for Tebow.
Denver paid over 50 points more in the trade with Baltimore.
Uhmmm not
we gave up a 5th rounder for a 1st rounder QB and we were equal on the trade value for Tebow and the 2 3 4
Gigantic problem with that logic
We gave up a 5th rounder for a 1st round bust, and we gave up equal value for the pick, not Tebow, who is NOT an NFL Qb.
Really?
So the fact that he’s QB and a member of an NFL franchise means he’s not an NFL QB? I"m not following the logic.
We live in an age when instant gratification isn't fast enough
by Brian Shrout on Apr 22, 2010 9:49 PM MDT up reply actions
Remember what we give up for Jarvis Moss
by OrangeBroncos on Apr 22, 2010 9:51 PM MDT up reply actions
Our original 1st round pick was too much for him
What a waste that was.
Owning the Patriots since September 9, 1960
LOL
So Iupati was gone and so was Pouncey.
So you’d rather we reached for another OL? Then you’d be pissed we spent all those picks for Walton. You would only have been happy if Pouncey fell into our lap.
Why does Madden suck at ranking the Broncos so much?
Nothing like draft day to make me realize why I hate draft day.
303
魏 多福
by Gr3yStreet on Apr 22, 2010 9:18 PM MDT reply actions 3 recs
This is the best thing I’ve heard all day. Thank you
by frontier on Apr 22, 2010 9:57 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Confused but ok with it
I dont think McD is stupid. But winning is all I care about. He gets 2 more years to make this team a contender after that, he must go. Bowlen must have known this was happening and approved of the moves. To me Tim Tebow reminds me alot of Steve Young. And for the value I think its worth the GAMBLE. Still have alot of pics left to fill holes and 2nd rounders next year.
No way I like this, but I sure hope to be proven wrong
In a deep draft, we gave up 3 possibly really good players. We HAVE a good qb that’s a good leader, good worker, well liked by his teammates, and smart, and another former #1, that is supposed to blossom with McD. Why do we need another one? The only explanation I can come up with, is Wild Horses. Maybe McD is going to change the game, and do it with the perfect tool. I’ll bet we’ll see lots of wild horses, and in the red zone too. Man I really want to be wrong about this pick, but I don’t like it.
Give a man a fish, and he'll eat for a day. Teach a man to fish, and he'll eat for a lifetime.
"Losing stinks" - Josh McDaniels
Pete Prisco of CBSportsline:
Broncos’ McDaniels can kiss job goodbye with Tebow pick
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Link
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he's right
If his job depends on Tebow, he’s gone
if you're supposedly brilliant with QBs
it makes sense to press your hand on a guy like Tebow. Why else are you coaching? There’s no better way to lose your HC position than by playing it safe.
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Apr 22, 2010 9:38 PM MDT up reply actions
Yeah there is
You could trade away a good deal of your teams impact players and then squander the picks you get in return. Also you can lose. They go hand in hand usually.
you don't get anywhere without risk
except mediocrity.
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Apr 22, 2010 9:58 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hey tricks...
The QB position is set.
by broncofaninIL on Apr 22, 2010 10:21 PM MDT up reply actions
Hate it
But I agree with Pete Prisco. Character means a lot but it isn’t everything. Tebow is a 5th round talent. College systems and the talent disparity mask a lot and play up a lot. Hence Mr. Tebow.
by OrangeandBlue27 on Apr 22, 2010 9:25 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Prisco
is as dumb as a bag of hammers
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Apr 22, 2010 9:54 PM MDT up reply actions
That's not nice
to hammers. Hammers are at least useful. Although Prisco is a tool.
Owning the Patriots since September 9, 1960
Priscoe is an ass clown.
My apologies to all the other ass clowns out there.
Pete hates all things Broncos as well as Tebow so now he can wrap all his hate up in one neat little package.
by Gristle McThornbody on Apr 22, 2010 9:51 PM MDT up reply actions
Freakin Awesome
I am so pumped we got this guy. He is a winner in every since of the word. Great job Coach!!!!!
?????
Would Tebow have fell to the 2nd round. And why did we trade up 2 spots to get Thomas when he obviously would have fell to us anyway?
KINGS WILL BE 10-11 CHAMPIONS
Schefter said
That the Ravens were going after Thomas so he wouldn’t have fallen to us, we had to match their offer to the Pats.
by Fan in Exile on Apr 22, 2010 9:46 PM MDT up reply actions
Do not let facts interfere with the negativity ;-)
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Apr 22, 2010 9:55 PM MDT up reply actions
Haters?
Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Not all broncos fans need to be ready to fall on their knees and welcome Tebow as our savior. We can question, dislike the pick, and even be down right ticked off. I might even go as far as to question the legitimacy of the regime. It doesn’t make you right, and anybody who disagrees with you any less of a fan.
by OrangeandBlue27 on Apr 22, 2010 9:21 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
it is not the intelligent critique that bother people here
its is the slander and harsh remarks. Those people who make them are considered haters.
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Apr 22, 2010 9:56 PM MDT up reply actions
For what it's worth
When I was growing up, many many years ago, between the ages of 10 and 20, my neighbor across the street was my hero, my mentor, my adopted grandfather and best friend. He was an artist, poet and great woodworker. He died at 96 and was still building rocking chairs to the end. His name was Kenny Tebow and yes I understand they are related. I was not excited about giving up 3 picks for quarterback when we have so many other needs, but out of the great respect I had for Kenny, I have to support Tim.
Wow! Crazy draft and certainly the Broncos made it interesting...
The biggest surpirse aside from Tebow who I really love, but will hate to see in Bronco orange we not taking Dez Bryant! I was shocked! Berry should help us because our safetys were terrible last year.
"Chiefs will go 9-7 in 2010"!
"Defense will improve to #10-15 in total defense"
"Cassel will throw 23 TDs and 11 INT's"
"Chief games will begin to sell out by week 4"
"The road to respectibility starts and ends in 2010"
by casselreadychiefs on Apr 22, 2010 9:22 PM MDT reply actions
LMAO @ Tebow on the news right now
“I love playing football, but improving society is more important”
Greaet
Seriously?
I was just starting to get over this….
by Poster_Formerly_Known_As_Royal_Fan on Apr 22, 2010 9:27 PM MDT up reply actions
Talking myself off the ledge...
But, at least his idea of improving society isn’t raping college chicks in bar bathrooms.
by Poster_Formerly_Known_As_Royal_Fan on Apr 22, 2010 9:30 PM MDT up reply actions
omg
(hides clutching his Bronco blanket)
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Apr 22, 2010 9:28 PM MDT up reply actions
yeah cause football is more important right?
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Apr 22, 2010 9:58 PM MDT up reply actions
When you're making millions to play...
It should be the most important thing in your life. That kind of cash should prevent you from acting like Marshall or Rothlesberger, but going the extra step to improve your community should be a bonus. It shouldn’t be your main concern.
by Poster_Formerly_Known_As_Royal_Fan on Apr 22, 2010 10:26 PM MDT up reply actions
Guys chill out.
The Bills were trading into the 1st round to det Tebow so he would have been gone had we wait. As for listening to all these experts…..let me remind you they all said that Jamarcus was worth a #1 and that Leaf had more talent than Payton. They also said we would win 3 games last year without Jay. There is a reason that they are not coaching. Josh has been raised to do this and Tim Tebow is a winner. I am a very happy Bronco Fan!!!!!!!!!
Dumb logic
Being a coach doesn’t make you right. If it did none of them would ever get fired.
Tebow will pan out
Look at what the dude went through. Literally everyone was down on him. Yet he kept his cool. His reaction of Jones’ comment was awesome. He has grit and determination. Everyone said that he is not NFL ready. They did not say he is not trainable. Now imagine him in McD’s tutelage with mechanics fixed. We have the game on the line with a fourth down in the red zone. What you need there is a calm QB who has been there before. Not Cutler who threw in INT.
Brees was supposed to be too short for a QB and not a super bowl MVP.
It's ironic that we are starting the season in JACKSONVILLE, after they reached on Alualu at 10.
Jags fans have to be upset, right now.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
PS3 ID: broncomaniac6
Jacksonville is the big loser in all of this
They could have just grabbed him instead of … Alualu??? What in the world?
by black_knight101 on Apr 22, 2010 9:28 PM MDT up reply actions
Yeah, seriously.
If I was a Jacksonville fan, I’d be mad. They love Tebow, there. Throw in the fact that they wasted a pick at 10 on a guy who was a projected 2nd or 3rd rounder.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
PS3 ID: broncomaniac6
by Troy Hufford on Apr 22, 2010 9:30 PM MDT up reply actions
I'm going to the game here on Sept 12th
I might just need to buy a Broncos Tebow jersey prior to that :)
Owning the Patriots since September 9, 1960
Wow, nice.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
PS3 ID: broncomaniac6
by Troy Hufford on Apr 22, 2010 9:32 PM MDT up reply actions
Yeah, I was pumped when I found out they were coming here
Bummed that it’s going to be hotter than heck in early September, but pumped again now that we’ve got Tebow!
Owning the Patriots since September 9, 1960
Right on Darin...The Jags are dumber than a field of stumps!
by bfree2bronc on Apr 22, 2010 10:02 PM MDT up reply actions
I didn't read a single thing about the Jags pick before the draft
It reminded me a lot of the raiders last year – Darius Heyward-WHO?
Owning the Patriots since September 9, 1960
Maybe they scouted Tebow
And weren’t impressed. They could have used his services much more than us.
by OrangeandBlue27 on Apr 22, 2010 9:31 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Well, their scouting is messed up if they think Tyson Alualu is better than Tebow.... or about 30+ other players, for that matter.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
PS3 ID: broncomaniac6
by Troy Hufford on Apr 22, 2010 9:33 PM MDT up reply actions
Well, their scouting is messed up if they think Tyson Alualu is better than Tebow.... or about 30+ other players, for that matter.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
PS3 ID: broncomaniac6
by Troy Hufford on Apr 22, 2010 9:33 PM MDT up reply actions
What is it with me echoing tonight? Sorry guys.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
PS3 ID: broncomaniac6
by Troy Hufford on Apr 22, 2010 9:33 PM MDT up reply actions
Buddy
What if the Bills had got him? We don’t know. Maybe they would have crashed and burned. Who knows? I don’t like the pick, but this isn’t a great argument for picking him. Give me a skill set answer beyond intangibles and over claims of faith.
by OrangeandBlue27 on Apr 22, 2010 9:27 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
You guys want facts?
You guys want facts? Read this article http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/Articles/11_3171_A_tale_of_six_quarterbacks.html
was just about to post that!
love this bit
First, it tells us that the SEC has dominated the draft in recent years, as you probably already knew. But five guys at the most important position on the field taken No. 1 overall in a 12-year stretch is a remarkable accomplishment, even by the lofty standards of the dominant conference in college football.
Second, it tells us that NFL talent evaluators are out of their [expletive deleted] minds.
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Apr 22, 2010 9:31 PM MDT up reply actions
This is so...incredibly, and ludicrously stupid
There are things to evaluate other than statistics. Especially in the college-NFL transition. Those statistics were put up in an offense that looks NOTHING like what he will run in the NFL and was against defenses nowhere near as good as those he will face in the NFL. He has an awful throwing motion, he is unreliable past 5 yards, and his tough guy act won’t fly in the NFL.
There is a reason why the NFL pays people to scout players, its because they know what they are doing. Do they make mistakes? yes, as does anyone in a talent evaluation situation, but I guarundamntee you they know more about evaluating talent than someone who looks solely at statistics.
lol
grumpy much? : )
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Apr 22, 2010 10:00 PM MDT up reply actions
Hey guys, I hope you’ll forgive me…I just want to apologize for what I’m about to say. At this point, I don’t like the location of this pick. It wouldn’t do me any good to offer any reasons why, because I’d just be shot down.
But you see, this is why I come here and post this…I want you guys to help me with this.
The positive side I was alluding to is – what many others have mentioned – that there are still tons of picks left. And hopefully, in a draft as deep as this one, they will be used to improve the DEFENSIVE side of the ball. Again, it’s only been one round…it’s almost hard to realize that with the new format and all.
But again, I see McDaniels coming in here and doing away with everyone so he can have what he wants on offense. Character wins games in high school, but I’m skeptical about it doing so in the pros…with that said, I’m willing to give it a pass for a few years and see how this all plays out.
So again, please do not shell me. Those of you that know me from posting in the past know I do not intend to troll. I am just struggling with this right now. I don’t know if it’s McDaniels’ methods I’m not a fan of or what. But, I wanted to be honest. I wanted to come here and get some useful insight (which is always here courtesy of the guys formerly known as styg, teach, etc.).
Hopefully you can help me out. McD went and got one of the players I dislike the most in the NFL in Brady Quinn and now Tim Tebow (who I love as a ‘guy’) but I just think there are more needs out there. Again, I leave it to you guys to help me out here. Again, I’m sorry I’m only one of the few of you who don’t like this as much. But, like I said, there’s still a lot of picks to go.
Go Broncos! :)
First of all, the picks that we spent to get him were acquired from trading back, weren't they?
I believe on balance we still have most of the picks we had previously. So in that view, we got a potential star and still broke even. I wasn’t a huge Tebow guy, but I’m okay with that.
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Apr 22, 2010 9:35 PM MDT up reply actions
Thats not breaking even
Thats sacrificing draft position. This pick didn’t cost them nothing, it cost them assets that they had acquired by moving other assets. Those assets could have been put to better use than Tebow.
Glad there's at least someone out there that feels similarly
I mean they already have quarterbacks in there…I guess you could argue they’re bringing in a franchise guy (obviously McDaniels likes him)…or they’ll play him at FB with Hillis gone…joking :-D…..I still don’t know. Like I said that’s why I decided to post. I don’t like this feeling I have now. I would like it to be more positive.
What you guys have posted so far as helped…but I shall wait until the draft is over to see how i’m feeling.
i'm with you more than you might think, phantom
What this tells me in a nutshell is that McDaniels is far from sold on Orton and quite possibly has no plans for Quinn going forward.
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Apr 22, 2010 9:45 PM MDT up reply actions
Then why did we get Quinn?
This is part of what I don’t understand. I need to understand! haha
Maybe this is something to push Kyle? idk.
that was before the draft
my money says Brady will be starting in Buffalo before you know it.
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Apr 22, 2010 9:49 PM MDT up reply actions
We needed a backup QB too
I said it at the time, “even if Quinn turns out to be nothing more than our backup, it’s a great trade – we only gave up the equivalent of a 5th round pick.” Or something like that. We got good value and we needed a backup QB.
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that may be true
if you don’t think McDaniels can cash in on Tebow’s upside. I’m not convinced one way or the other. But as I’ve said before, if you’re (supposedly) a QB “maker”, and can be the guy that turns Tebow into a franchise starter, you have to make this move. It doesn’t surprise me at all that McDaniels would make this bet. I hope it pans out for him, but only time will tell.
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Apr 22, 2010 9:43 PM MDT up reply actions
frankly
i would have preferred some OL help. But that was when I felt McDaniels felt Orton had a future. Not so sure any more about that.
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Apr 22, 2010 9:46 PM MDT up reply actions
Yeah
I don’t know what to think about what McDaniels is thinking anymore. I’m willing to give it time.
someone said he's crazy like a fox or just crazy
Hard to tell right now. LOL But I do have to admire his moxie. Man has cojones of titanium.
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Apr 22, 2010 9:51 PM MDT up reply actions
I hate the fact that the season is so far away. Moxie is all well and good, but if it ends up failing then it’s not good at all. I just hate being nervous on this one.
Hopefully tomorrow will be a better day for me.
winning is all that matters
and we won’t know until we’re in the playoffs or not.
#!#!!! WHY do we watch this frakkin game again? Do we LIKE it LOL
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Apr 22, 2010 9:54 PM MDT up reply actions
Only if we didn't get who we wanted
We could have just taken Thomas at 11.
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Agreed and well said. You won't get fragged for feeling the way MOST of us here felt until a half hour ago...
We are left to trust McX and somehow I do with VERY little to go on. I would SO HAVE TAKEN SO MANY different players with those picks… IMO we made poor choices.
Still I’ll back McX for the length of his contract and hhopefully for years beyond it. There’s something about McD and Xanders that I belive in …somebody feel free to explain it to me…
I can say …WE WILL PICK IN THE TRENCHES TOMORROW!
by Whidbey Bronco on Apr 22, 2010 9:42 PM MDT up reply actions
Go to the CCFF article linked above.
Sure gave me food for thought! GO BRONCOS!!!
So why are they out of their minds?
Got to be a reason. Other than the availae
stats. It just wouldn’t make sense otherwise
by OrangeandBlue27 on Apr 22, 2010 9:34 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
Wow, this looks familiar
Drafting Cutler when we had a decent QB in Plummer? Now drafting Tebow when we have a decent QB in Orton? I guess this worked out well for us before? Honestly, I don’t know.
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Well like the pick
I didn’t think we would draft him, however after McDaniels interview before the draft and the private workout on Monday, I kept it in the back of my mind as a possibility. Many of his attributes, you just can’t teach and we all know he will work his tail off to improve on anything…..110% effort 100% of the time.
I thought we were going to get some trench players, however I am happy with the pick along with WR Thomas.
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by dmitchell624 on Apr 22, 2010 10:01 PM MDT up reply actions
41% of fans polled
gave the Tebow move an F. Wow, this is breathtaking.
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Apr 22, 2010 10:06 PM MDT reply actions
Its not the best move they could have made...
there are better QBs out there…and there are many positions that the Broncos should fill first.
I hope this ends up better than I feel.
yep
I have no idea if this is good or bad. I hear both sides and everyone’s points seem valid. I’m just marveling at the grandiosity of the move. Sure hasn’t been boring around here for awhile.
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Apr 22, 2010 10:11 PM MDT up reply actions
That is true...lol
I really get frustrated though with people who take everything to the extreme…which even I do quite a bit. I hate Drama and now I have to listen to everyone either worship the ground Tebow walks one (like Cutler has in Chicago and I have to listen to) and I have to listen to the people who want him dead and impaled; and the same goes with people and Orton. Taking a look at what I wrote I went to the extreme again…uggg its happening already!!!
it's all good
We wouldn’t be fans if we didn’t live on the fringes every now and then. ; )
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Apr 22, 2010 10:57 PM MDT up reply actions
I bet it would have been a low grade regardless of what team picks Tebow.
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2009 NBA Finals MVP Kobe Bryant
one thing is for sure
Tebow and McDaniels careers are now tied together. If one fails, they both fail. Its not the same situation belichek was in at this point in his career… that would be Brandstater to McDaniels… I hope it works out as a lifetime Bronco fan
by frontier on Apr 22, 2010 10:15 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
anyone want to venture a guess about who
is the odd man out?
I’m guessing Quinn, since our investment in him thus far is zero as far as acquainting him with the system. Depends on how far Brandstater has progressed, I suppose.
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Apr 22, 2010 10:17 PM MDT reply actions
I'll go with Walter.
Orton traded to Buffalo.
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by Troy Hufford on Apr 22, 2010 10:21 PM MDT up reply actions
For those of you concerned about the trading of the picks for Tebow, we started off the day with a 11 pick and had 43/45/80/114/137/183 we basically got our 11 pick in the 22 spot and pay less money for him, get the 43 pick in the 25 position for Tebow as a slash option and learning backup QB, still retain the 45/80 picks, upgrade the 114 pick to now be a much more useful 87 pick in the 3rd round instead of the 4th , and still have the 137 and 183 picks..
So although we had temporary hold of the picks we traded for Tebow, the ones we traded were the ones we traded for anyway.
Its like we got Tebow as our #43 pick a day early and got a free upgrade from #114 in the 4th round to #87 in the 3rd to boot.
Plus we pay #22 money instead of #11 money for the replacement WR to replace Brandon Marshall
Overall not bad
My Question is...
How long until Tim Tebow joins the super best friends on south park.
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by JChase8410 on Apr 22, 2010 11:44 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
There was supposed to be a ?
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by JChase8410 on Apr 22, 2010 11:47 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
One thing is very clear
we have a lot of want to be coaches, I don’t think most of these want to be coaches would have been happy with any pick we took. Just love how all these coaches that I have never seen here before know so much more than our coach and FO, lets not forget our owner. Who by the way did mention that he would like to see a QB taken this year.
So, why all the negative talk and all the wasted babble on what we think anyway? We are moving in the direction of becoming a better team, with good character athletes choosen by our coaches, scouts, FO and team owner, I do beleive that is all that counts here, these are good times for the Bronco’s.
As far as all these coaches that can already tell which players we have are a total bust or a reach or just not NFL material, I need a little bit of meat behind these opinions, need to see this crystal ball or whatever method that is being used to back these opinions up. Because at this point they are just baseless opinions, which are only based on biased feelings for certain players that didn’t get drafted by us, I can get this kind of logic by watching Jamie Dukes.
We are the Bronco’s, we are trying to put together a team by drafting players that may have an impact now and also players that are planned for the near future.
Am I a Tebow fan? I don’t know, I do know that I love the unknown just about as much as the known. I love the possibility that we may have a diamond in the rough, another Rod Smith, another great team and character player that can play great, another team without all the drama tagging along.
I will not sit here and even try and convince anybody that I may know more than our coaches and draft team or even know anything at all about football. I do know that I love this team and I do know that I don’t want avg players that are good guys, I know for a fact that I will welcome any player that can come in here and get us back on the winning trend again, get us back to the SB again, I will welcome everyone of those guys. I just won’t pretend to know who those players are until they have had a chance to prove themselves.
I don’t want to ever be satisfied to just make it to the dance and be happy to be there and be happy with good guys that will not be able to take us there again.
So, after all of this worthless babble, I am very excited to see what happens tomorrow and this is a FACT, I am one that is going to have a bit of faith in my coach, and I am going to hope all of our new players are going to lead us to the top once again, at least have a chance to do so before I throw them under the bus. As fans one would think we at least owe them a chance to prove what they have before we try to compare them to a proven winner or a reach, or a bust……
I will reserve my negative speeches until we see our failures, until then I am ready to watch the competition between our players and may the best ones kick some *ss…….Bronco’s
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