2010 NFL Draft: Character Rules Over Dove Valley
by Tim Lynch on Apr 23, 2010 7:39 AM MDT
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PrintCharacter ruled the day in Denver. When the Denver Broncos moved up two spots to take Demaryius Thomas over Dez Bryant I scratched my head. To be honest, I never really considered Thomas as a potential pick. Then again, I never really considered any wide receiver for the first round. My bias towards Dez Bryant ruled over all apparently.
I absolutely love guys who believe they have something to prove. Guys who have gigantic chips on their shoulders. I'll name a few players who I think will be huge impact players because of the chips they'll likely have on their shoulder. Gerald McCoy is the first guy I'd watch out for. A few others would include Kyle Wilson and Dan Williams. I'd put Dez Bryant on this list, but I'm not sure he has the heart.
One guy that definitely has a gigantic chip on his shoulder is Tim Tebow. He has faced nothing but criticism for his ability to transition to the NFL. The guy is going to work harder than most anyone in the league. His preparation could even rival Jerry Rice. He has talent and will work his butt off. Why aren't people totally excited about having a guy with this kind of work ethic and talent mixed?
I'll take the guy with immense talent and the shoulder chip over a guy who has immense talent and no shoulder chip.
One thing we can be certain of moving forward is that Josh McDaniels and Brian Xanders will target the guys with great character. After trading away three of our most selfish stars in the last two offseasons, I find this quite refreshing. The drama now will come from the media rather than directly from Dove Valley.
Go Broncos!
Addendum: For those of you who read Pete Prisco...meh How about Woody Paige's opinion?
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The Buffs have sucked ever since they started trying to go the squeaky clean route
by admill on Apr 23, 2010 7:41 AM MDT reply actions 1 recs
The Steelers suck too for focusing on squeaky clean....
Big Ben is one step from being traded for a bag of rocks.
Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.
The guy formerly known as ZAPPA
in defense though
I’ve never seen a squeaky clean player with the intensity and work ethic that Tebow posesses. At least not in the last decade.
"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
- Thomas Alva Edison
"Success is not a place at which one arrives, but rather... the spirit with which one undertakes and continues the journey."
- Alex Noble
thats because morals are now looked at as being a bad thing.
I cant stop war chanting....
by David G. Little on Apr 23, 2010 8:02 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thats an openended statement that not only specifically targets a religious people, but makes generalizations at the same time.
I cant stop war chanting....
by David G. Little on Apr 23, 2010 8:12 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
true... perhaps overly broad, but the point remains
I love the fact that Tebow seems to be a well-grounded, hard working, high-character guy. His faith is a big part of that (just as it is for players like Dawk, etc.). That said, endorsement of political causes on highly divisive social issues (from whatever political side of the issue) I don’t think is helpful to or good for the organization.
It is to be seen whether Tebow actually does this, but to the extent that he does (and he’s flirted with this at times already), I don’t think thats a good thing for the Denver Broncos organization… fans come from many different political, religious, and social backgrounds and there are some things folks just have to agree to disagree on.
My guess is this will be highly over-blown, and not half the issue some folks fear it could be. Kurt Warner, etc. all were very religious individuals who often had opinions that differ from mine… but for the most part he kept those opinions largely to himself and it never became a distraction to the team or issue for the fanbase. My guess is we’ll see something similar from Tebow.
by cjfarls on Apr 23, 2010 8:31 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm cautiously optimistic
that you’re right. I forget that football is like life. There are lot of americans running around who are christian and there are lots of christian football players, too. Even those who are overt about it — doesn’t “witnessing for Christ” simply mean being an exemplary christian for others to witness? — don’t usually let christianity get in the way of being a football player, and I hope it’s that way with Tebow. I think his being coachable isn’t irrelevant, because whatever theur mutual faiths McDaniels and Tebow really, really want to win football games. I can root for him as someone who cares about the same thing I do (just football!) and who’s mastered his craft, as long as he lets me.
"Surprised to see you, Captain, though pleased." — from Star Trek episode Space Seed.
Agreed
Being religious on his own terms is fine, his business, etc. etc.
Appearing in an ad sponsored by Focus on the Family is something entirely different, for me as a fan. That organization is as much a political group as a religious one, and since they work to change American laws and culture in ways that I fundamentally disagree with it’s pretty hard for me to cheer for him, since his success will register in part as a vindication of that group’s values.
I like the Broncos, I don’t like Focus on the Family, and Tebow’s making me choose.
It’s a pretty common idea on sports sites like MHR that we’re all happier if posters keep their ideas focused on football and don’t bring in politics, religion and other subjects likely to cause controversy and division.
I’m all for that since one of the things that makes being a sports fan fun is coming together with other fans, rooting for something and enjoying a sense of camaraderie. I like the idea that sports can bring together people across divisions like politics, religion etc. Bringing up politics, religion etc. on MHR and sites like it is a good way to spoil that community.
Well, to me Tim Tebow has broken that unspoken rule of sports by making his religious and political beliefs (re: politics I’m thinking about his Focus on The Family ad) so unavoidable that I can’t be happily unaware of them.
It’s nothing against him personally, it’s just hard to identify with someone who differs from me on issues that I find important. As a result, it will be harder to cheer for the Broncos if Tebow plays a major role.
by GordonPym on Apr 23, 2010 9:04 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
So you judge but he cant? Do two wrongs make a right? its not bringing religion or politics into the sport. rather its an intelligent conversation regarding ethics in the sport, directed towards support for our new QB.
"To all the critics thank you, you have been a motivation to me and will continue to be a motivation to me." - Tim 'the Mile High Messiah' Tebow
by David G. Little on Apr 23, 2010 9:14 AM MDT up reply actions
I'm not judging him
He might be right, I might be wrong.
I was merely explaining that I disagree with him on issues that matter to me. As a result I find it harder to identify with him, which makes it less fun to root for him.
well said. I am sorry for seaming aggressive with my words, but there are lots of people on here making comments that are neither intelligent, justified or relevant. Glad we have an understanding.
"To all the critics thank you, you have been a motivation to me and will continue to be a motivation to me." - Tim 'the Mile High Messiah' Tebow
by David G. Little on Apr 23, 2010 9:21 AM MDT up reply actions
Glad we have an understanding.
Same here – Go Broncos.
*raises hand*
Because Montana has no professional sports, I gotta support the land of my birth.
Socrates was once executed for 'trolling'.
^Needs explaining: don't call someone asking uncomfortable, slightly antagonistic questions *for the purpose of learning* trolls. It's real easy to differentiate a 'Socratic' post from a trolling one.
big baby
boo hoo Gordon Pym…Tebow is making me choose. What?! Dont be ridiculous. Was last night an election? Grow up and quit crying…this is about football and nothing else.
WOW. see what i mean by people making unintelligent, non justified comments?
"To all the critics thank you, you have been a motivation to me and will continue to be a motivation to me." - Tim 'the Mile High Messiah' Tebow
by David G. Little on Apr 23, 2010 9:26 AM MDT up reply actions
Sigh.
And just when things were going so well :)
GordonPym
I resepct your opinion and you should do the same for Tebow. I love that he does adds and is against abortion as I am the same way and always will be. Tebow is not saying you are bad if you dont beleive what he does or that he is right. But get used to Tebow and his faith as it is #1 in his life over all else. Root for him as a player and be glad we wont have a Big Ben situaiton on our hands. GO Broncos and lets all respect each others opinions.
2/3 of the earth is covered by water the other 1/3 is covered by Champ Bailey!
THIS IS BRONCOS COUNTRY!!!
by The 3 Amigos on Apr 23, 2010 9:35 AM MDT up reply actions
admill
Tebow is strong in his convictions and if you dont like that move on to anothe rtam or player to root for. Don’t knock Tebow because he is religious, if anything it is a good thing it is not like he is supporting drunk driving or spousal abuse.
2/3 of the earth is covered by water the other 1/3 is covered by Champ Bailey!
THIS IS BRONCOS COUNTRY!!!
by The 3 Amigos on Apr 23, 2010 9:32 AM MDT up reply actions
you guys JUST DON'T GET IT
Nobody is knocking him for being religious, it’s for being inappropriately outspoken. And I was a Broncos fan before he was born so no, I’m not going to move on.
admil
I respect what you are saying but Tebow is religious and he did a commercial add to support what he believes in and always will, better get used to it. Now lets move on and focus on football as the only person seperating it into religion is you and other fans, not Tebow, all he has talked about is football and being a Bronco now lets all enjoy that.
2/3 of the earth is covered by water the other 1/3 is covered by Champ Bailey!
THIS IS BRONCOS COUNTRY!!!
by The 3 Amigos on Apr 23, 2010 9:41 AM MDT up reply actions
+1
We know!!!!!
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but the one thing that bothered me was how he would likely divide the fanbase.
Yep me too – its not like the fan base is short of things to argue about.
I am actually REALLY impressed how our MHR base has come together....
I was one of Tebow’s biggest doubters but even I am on board. Maybe Tebow brings us together? Thats what I am feeling, and it could be a good thing for Orton too as he has the professionalism and moxie to have Tebow sit behind him. Very similar to the Brees/ Rivers situation I feel!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
Its the best news we have had in a long time, and when Cutler started to say he wanted to be traded it hurt. I had so much hope for the guy. Hopefully Tebow (along with Cutler being a complainer, dissing the Broncos and Coach, and setting records for non other than interceptions) will help me recover. He definately is a bright light, in what was a somewhat dark, but not pitch black cave.
I cant stop war chanting....
by David G. Little on Apr 23, 2010 8:17 AM MDT up reply actions
"in what was a somewhat dark, but not pitch black cave"
Put that in an opening sentence and enter it in the Bulwer-Lytton contest.
"Surprised to see you, Captain, though pleased." — from Star Trek episode Space Seed.
+1
Literacy win!
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Apr 23, 2010 3:50 PM MDT up reply actions
I hope it's not like Brees/Rivers
Brees got traded and won a superbowl.
by BroncoMath101 on Apr 23, 2010 8:18 AM MDT up reply actions
And I dont think hes the type to complain and not put in 100% to his team. He wont be traded unless the team trades him and he will be a class act no matter what happens. Lets not even bring up him moving now. Im excited to finally have a QB i can really respect and look forward too.
I cant stop war chanting....
by David G. Little on Apr 23, 2010 8:24 AM MDT up reply actions
I assume you're likening the connection to Orton/Tebow...
and yeah, I don’t like that parallel one bit.
Because Montana has no professional sports, I gotta support the land of my birth.
Socrates was once executed for 'trolling'.
^Needs explaining: don't call someone asking uncomfortable, slightly antagonistic questions *for the purpose of learning* trolls. It's real easy to differentiate a 'Socratic' post from a trolling one.
I Am Surprised by the Move
to Say the Least. I don’t think his religion will impact the fanbase. It is going to be his skill set and the position where we drafted him. I think that is all anyone cares about.
How do you keep the Broncos Humble?
"Just show them the film. Show them the film." - Josh McDaniels
if only that were true...
Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.
The guy formerly known as ZAPPA
You May Disagree
But it is true.
BTW Woody Paige is on board? Yikes
How do you keep the Broncos Humble?
"Just show them the film. Show them the film." - Josh McDaniels
Why would people care if he is a moral type person?
I don’t get this that his religion will hurt him in the long run. I’m a christian and hope to go to heaven when I die, I don’t go around flaunting it and raising concerns that my character as a christian is somehome affecting those around me. And by the way, I drink beer and whiskey too, but that my business and nobody elses. We’re not going to turn this or Tebow into a religuos debate! I or no staff member will tell you and everyone else, keep it to yourself or leave!
I dont think its a religious debate, but rather a debate upon the impact of religion in sport.
I cant stop war chanting....
by David G. Little on Apr 23, 2010 8:47 AM MDT up reply actions
They're not concerned that he might be too moral :)
They’re concerned that he might be not just overt but in your face about his christianity, which for those who don’t share his beliefs might make him harder to identify with. I don’t think it’ll be an issue but I don’t think they’re being entirely unreasonable in worrying that he might make it one.
"Surprised to see you, Captain, though pleased." — from Star Trek episode Space Seed.
Were there any reports from Florida that it was a problem while he was there?
I don’t remember any (I’m not looking it up right now either). I can’t imagine a guy who is the leader that Tebow is, would alienate teammates like that.
Owning the Patriots since September 9, 1960
I don't understand.....
Why this hasn’t come up sooner then. NO ONE to the best of my knowledge has complained about B Dawk’s religious preferences, and he’s vocal about what he believes in. No, he didn’t do a Focus on the Family commercial, but B Dawk is as much a God-fearing Christian as Tim Tebow is.
"I've missed more than 9,000 shots in my career. I've lost almost 300 games. 26 times, I've been trusted to take the game winning shot and missed. I've failed over and over and over again in my life, and that is why I succeed." - Michael Jordan
"To give anything less than your best is to sacrifice the gift." - Steve Prefontaine
RIP BARREL MAN
i could really not care any less about whether he's a pontificator
All that matters to me is whether he leads us to a SuperBowl someday.
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Apr 23, 2010 3:52 PM MDT up reply actions
You ask
Why aren’t people totally excited about having a guy with this kind of work ethic and talent mixed?
It’s because his footwork, reads, and arm mechanics don’t translate to a 1st round pick. Rah-rah only counts if you’re playing.
His footwork, reads and arm mechanics need coaching. Boy i wish we had some coaches who were good with QB’s…… Oh wait, our head coach is a QB genius.
I cant stop war chanting....
by David G. Little on Apr 23, 2010 8:02 AM MDT up reply actions
And McCoy turned Delhomme, a hack, into a Super Bowl Qb......he is not too bad with QB's either!
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
i really have to laugh
When the fanbase present statements that make it seem like our coaching staff isn’t bright enough or alert enough to notice whether Tebow has incorrectable flaws in his QB mechanics.
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Apr 23, 2010 8:19 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
+1
Im sure McDaniels didnt realize though that he had bad footwork. what does he know?
I cant stop war chanting....
by David G. Little on Apr 23, 2010 8:25 AM MDT up reply actions
I laugh when folks assume coaches know best
many more coaches have failed in this league than have succeeded!
Blind confidence is freaking stupid.
by Whidbey Bronco on Apr 23, 2010 8:43 AM MDT up reply actions
These Concerns
These concerns you mentioned are what would divide the Bronco faithful about the pick and its position.
How do you keep the Broncos Humble?
"Just show them the film. Show them the film." - Josh McDaniels
They shouldnt though. Ryan Clady had problems out of College with his technique, and every person whos ever been drafted has had problems. The NFL is a totally different game with totally different coaches who will teach these young men what they need to succeed. The coaching will come.
I cant stop war chanting....
by David G. Little on Apr 23, 2010 8:06 AM MDT up reply actions
Plus Heismans are not given away
I cant stop war chanting....
by David G. Little on Apr 23, 2010 8:08 AM MDT up reply actions
but they do have this disturbing tendency to go to guys who don't do well in the NFL
:p
Because Montana has no professional sports, I gotta support the land of my birth.
Socrates was once executed for 'trolling'.
^Needs explaining: don't call someone asking uncomfortable, slightly antagonistic questions *for the purpose of learning* trolls. It's real easy to differentiate a 'Socratic' post from a trolling one.
yeah in the last 7 years minus 2007 maybe….
"To all the critics thank you, you have been a motivation to me and will continue to be a motivation to me." - Tim 'the Mile High Messiah' Tebow
by David G. Little on Apr 23, 2010 10:56 AM MDT up reply actions
Well I Mean They are Concerns
It is legitimate to be worried about it. It is a gamble, now I know the kid has great upside and I am sitting back and looking at the coaches and saying “Ok Guys, Make it Happen.”
But I understand why people and why I personally have some doubts. Sometimes it doesn’t happen at this level. Trust me though, I am rooting for the guy.
How do you keep the Broncos Humble?
"Just show them the film. Show them the film." - Josh McDaniels
I have doubts too, but we need to be optimistic. Every draft pick has the potential to be the next greatest player, or the next biggest bust. But i dont think Tebow will do either. Hes going to go out and compete at the highest level he can, and thats something every fan, of every religion and every mindset on the guy can agree with.
I cant stop war chanting....
by David G. Little on Apr 23, 2010 8:14 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
No, we don't need to be optimistic
we can be… but not being so makes someone no less a fan.
McD, for right or wrong, made a risky move in picking Tebow, spending first round value on a guy who everyone admits needs some work. It could be a great move, or a dumb one… fans should hope for the former, but believing it was the latter is perfectly reasonable.
We’re at the point of making knee-jerk reactions to draft… expressing legitimate concerns about risky moves is totally fair game. in 5 years, we can make the real analysis of whether it was a good gamble or not.
Like i said i have doubts too, and I agree not being optimistic doesnt make anyone less of a fan. Its the people who make comments without expressing reasons for why they have “legitmate concerns about risky moves”, IE drafting Tim Tebow, that i dont support.
I cant stop war chanting....
by David G. Little on Apr 23, 2010 8:39 AM MDT up reply actions
There is always the potential for failure
but I love the brass set McDaniels has in going for a home run….personally I think Tebow is going to be incredible
I Hope You are Right
It would be lots of fun rooting for the guy and watching him win.
How do you keep the Broncos Humble?
"Just show them the film. Show them the film." - Josh McDaniels
Tebow
Definitely the anti Cutler huh.
How do you keep the Broncos Humble?
"Just show them the film. Show them the film." - Josh McDaniels
hope so
"To all the critics thank you, you have been a motivation to me and will continue to be a motivation to me." - Tim 'the Mile High Messiah' Tebow
by David G. Little on Apr 23, 2010 9:14 AM MDT up reply actions
no risk no reward
No one ever got a Lombardi by managing their team out of fear for messing things up. You have to make bold moves. Not all of them work out — many don’t. But those that do work out look obvious like the obvious choice years later. Really hoping Tebow is one of those guys. I’m excited to see what comes of this.
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Apr 23, 2010 9:52 AM MDT up reply actions
the more you have to teach a kid ...the less likely he is to learn it all. This is why players who've played pro-style, shown the abilty to read defences vs pro-style offenses and have good mechanics are coveted
Oh yeah accuracy… the little things.
Come on! When the mob gets swayed around here, it really gets full of sh
There’s nothing wrong with being realistic here. Tebow has the things that are taught by parents and teachers and friendships …over a lifetime.
McX is taking the risk that the large amount of football skills he lacks …can be taught by McD. For the relatively low cost… i understand the reach.
Still a reach though! With large reward. It’s how high risk is supposed to work.
I’m about already sick to my guts with all the Florida/denver colored kool-aid drunks who’ve suddenly decided this kid is the second coming of Elway or something!! It’ll take a year under McD for Tebow to carry Elways Stanford jock!!!
Let’s be realistic here folks.
BTW How many polls and posts concerning drafting with a priority towards the trenches have been 80+ % accepted here since the season ended. …only to have every other wishy washy f@cker here jump on the hippy bus after one sip of the kool-aid!!!!!
I’m pulling for Tebow. I’m pulling for McX. I’m pulling for our precios Broncos!!!
But mostly I’m pulling for a busload of big, mean, greasy bodies these next few rounds!!!!! Like any SANE front office would draft!!
…oh yeah. And a couple quick, hard hitting ball hawks please.
by Whidbey Bronco on Apr 23, 2010 9:02 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Let's see . . .
with terrible footwork, read and arm mechanics, Tebow:
was a 2 time 1st team All American
was a 3 time 1st team All SEC
was an AP Player of the Year
won the Davey O’Brien Award for best QB
was a 2 time Maxwell Award winner
won the Heisman trophy
was an NCAA QB of the Year
won 2 National Championship games
completed 67.1% of his passes over his college career
threw for 9286 yards (which by the way was better than Orton and Cutler, but fewer than Quinn)
threw for 88 touchdowns with only 15 interceptions (more TDs than Orton & Cutler and only 7 fewer than Quinn, but with far fewer interceptions)
rushed for 2947 yards
scored 57 rushing TDs
Wow, this guy’s mechanics have really dragged his game down. Wonder what he could have done, or might still do with some good coaching on his mechanics.
Voices on Tebow:
He’s been endorsed by both Jon Gruden and Tony Dungy; both of whom have won Super Bowls — Dungy stating that he would have taken Tebow with a Top 10 pick.
He’s been panned by Mike Freeman (CBS Sportswriter), Pete Prisco (CBS Sportswriter) and Mel Kiper Jr (ESPN Sportscaster) — only 1 of whom, if I’m not mistaken, ever played the game.
We live in an age when instant gratification isn't fast enough
by Brian Shrout on Apr 23, 2010 9:18 AM MDT up reply actions 4 recs
Kiper’s hair could catch any ball thrown in the vicinity of him
by Todd Jewell on Apr 23, 2010 9:22 AM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
+1
Really eh. His record speaks words. Why cant people expect some great things.
"To all the critics thank you, you have been a motivation to me and will continue to be a motivation to me." - Tim 'the Mile High Messiah' Tebow
by David G. Little on Apr 23, 2010 9:22 AM MDT up reply actions
Because lots of people have been good in college
A lot less have been good in the pro’s.
fair enough
"To all the critics thank you, you have been a motivation to me and will continue to be a motivation to me." - Tim 'the Mile High Messiah' Tebow
by David G. Little on Apr 23, 2010 9:59 AM MDT up reply actions
Come on Shrout how many awards did a dozens Hiesman QBs win that had zero success in the NFL ??
Get REAL.
I don’t dislike Tebow, nor am i sure he’ll fail but at least use a smart argument!
by Whidbey Bronco on Apr 23, 2010 9:27 AM MDT up reply actions
but is he any good???
just playing ; )
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Apr 23, 2010 9:56 AM MDT up reply actions
...I don't know... I heard he had a noodle for an arm...
And, also, can he snap the ball??
I don’t know…
"All by their heads, he places crowns."
by Tempestuous Binary on Apr 23, 2010 11:06 AM MDT up reply actions
:p
"All by their heads, he places crowns."
by Tempestuous Binary on Apr 23, 2010 11:06 AM MDT up reply actions
He's got a huge upside potential which obviously we all hope he reaches
And if he busts, at least we got another solid first round player.
Motivation
Not only is he being harassed because everyone thinks hes so overrater, hes being harassed because hes a christian? Who cares what his religion is really? and I dont see how being christian hurts your stock. A fan base should not look at religion, it should look at leadership. it should be concerned with his play on the field, and his actions off. and Tim Tebow excels in both categories.
Bottom line is, the man is good for our team, hes good for the league, and hes good for our community. What more can you ask for?
I cant stop war chanting....
by David G. Little on Apr 23, 2010 8:00 AM MDT reply actions
Religion and Politics are separate
I don’t see how filming multimillion dollar super bowl adds for extremist political lobbying organizations counts as “religious worship”. I sincerely hope he steers clear of trying to be a political figure of any sort and just focuses on football. He’s got enough of a hill to climb winning over fans there.
I agree. And the add was offside and he and his family could have expressed their views in another way. I honestly think coming to Denver, one of the greatest sports cities in the world, and with one of the most devoted fanbase`s, he will have nothing on his mind rather than trying to do his job as a QB.
I cant stop war chanting....
by David G. Little on Apr 23, 2010 8:20 AM MDT up reply actions
Why is anyone even complaining about the ad? It wasn't even bad or really controversial.
give me a break people
by BroncoMath101 on Apr 23, 2010 8:22 AM MDT up reply actions
Focus on the Family controversial?????
We need more tolerance…I have friends that work for them and they do amazing work around the globe…..let Tebow has his voice and let others have their say without calling it controversial…….how about a Super Bowl victory
No one is claiming he shouldn't be allowed to
just that we hope he will keep his views private so next year at this time, we’re talking about football and not this.
he should promote what he wants
thats like me saying you shouldnt share your view in this blog….share it all you like…..I know who I am and will not be offended
The thing with christianity, which im sure Tebow understands is that you do not force your views on others, and you respect all other no matter what. He can support Anti abortion, but he shouldnt, and i dont think he will, hurt this team by trying to create any controversy or distractions for the fans and his teammates by actively going out of his way to enforce his views on others.
I cant stop war chanting....
by David G. Little on Apr 23, 2010 8:42 AM MDT up reply actions
I would prefer a QB focused on football
Not creating controversy with political activism. I don’t dispute he has the right to. As a Broncos fan, though, I hope he chooses not to exercise it.
We agree to disagree
What a great country….hope to see you at a game and cheer right alongside with you
I have to wonder
If you would be so strongly in favor of an open exchange of ideas if he had gone on national TV supporting a gay rights group or something
You can only wonder seeing as it goes against his religion. But good philosophical approach
I cant stop war chanting....
by David G. Little on Apr 23, 2010 9:03 AM MDT up reply actions
he DOES NOT need to keep his personal views quiet! Nazi?
It’s his values that we love! (The freaking liberals would just prefer God wasn’t the source of his wholesome-ness ….a little secret. HE usually IS!)
by Whidbey Bronco on Apr 23, 2010 9:05 AM MDT up reply actions
Yes
They oppose legalized gambling, homosexuality, and all abortion. Those are controversial positions. You may happen to agree with them and that is your prerogative. But they are undeniably controversial. As I said, I just hope Tim sticks to football.
Really???
a new low for MHR…. to much thin skin and PC… lets talk football for crying out loud, if not then lets talk about every football players beliefs….why does any of this matter?
If anyone is offended then suck it up or write about it on a site that is for coddling the thin skinned….If we are going to jump into the subject of ones beliefs then we are never going to agree on anything.
Hell, we can’t even agree on which players are best for the Bronco’s, and now we want to talk about what these players believe in.
Maybe we should have a WARNING on the sites that may discuss subjects that may offend, just so we don’t offend someone….Really? This is football, keep it to football, there seems to be plenty to disagree about ….
you are 100 percent correct
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Apr 23, 2010 8:22 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
I semi-agree
I think a player being overly religious can rub people the wrong way, but it is NOT a reason to downgrade a player in anyones eyes. I loathe Tim Tebow, I hate everything about the pick, but it is wrong to attack him for having a strong set of personal beliefs, those won’t matter in the NFL. Noone in the NFL fails because they are too religious or not religious enough. Players fail on the field because they don’t have talent, or don’t work hard enough, and they fail off the field because they made dumb decisions.
Now, good for the league and team, idk, he has to play, and play succesfully, and I have very little confidence that he can do that.
Squeaky Clean v. Demoralizing Bad Behavior
Getting squeaky clean players is not as important as avoiding gut-wrenching, emotionally draining misfits. Coaches and players can get more done if they look forward to going to work every day with people that they get along with and focused on a common positive goal, wouldn’t you? Even occasional, but dire bad events can disrupt a team, especially when everyone is wondering what the next bad act will be. The Broncos aren’t looking for a bunch of choir boys, just trying to avoid reasons for distractions. If the talent is there, and it is so far, its a good move.
is Dawkins considered squeeky clean?
Where did the term come from. McDaniels isn’t going for “squeeky clean” he wants character and self responsibility and so should we.
Dawkins and Tebow share the exact same faith is that an issue?
For football fans what they do on the field is critical and what they do off the field is only a concern if it violates their contract and the league conduct policy.
I would hope you would support who we are. Not, who we are not. Coach Norman Dale "Hoosiers"
by dmitchell624 on Apr 23, 2010 8:28 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions
+1
Hopefully Tebow will hit as hard though, let alone work as hard hahaha
I cant stop war chanting....
by David G. Little on Apr 23, 2010 8:30 AM MDT up reply actions
Exactly and the rant on 'squeaky' clean in irrelevant to the sport.
If having no character flaws id squeaky clean then BDawk is squeaky clean…So what, you get in his way on game day and see how squeaky he is after he tries to unhinge shoulder from your body!
Didn't sleep well
More than anything I guess this proves my concerns as a fan have no correlation to the concerns of the Denver Broncos….and I’m okay with that. I don’t know what the coaches have planned, I don’t see what they see. How could I possibly believe Pouncey was the best fit for our team based on what little insight I have in this whole process?
It comes down to trust. Do I trust the coach and GM to do the best thing for the team? At this point I do, so I think it’s time to move on. Tebow and Thomas are essentially Broncos now, so I will support them and I will be happy about it. Two more draft days left plus a LONG time until the season starts. A lot could happen.
Go Broncos!
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by afeather on Apr 23, 2010 8:16 AM MDT reply actions 1 recs
+1. Thats the true fan mentality right there. Unconditional love and support, through the good times and the bad.
I cant stop war chanting....
by David G. Little on Apr 23, 2010 8:21 AM MDT up reply actions
i bet McX didn't sleep well either
We can support our team without agreeing with everything they do. Your point that they’ve been able to study the players MUCH more than we, helps me to trust them quite a bit more…
Go Broncos!
Now TO THE TRENCHES!!
by Whidbey Bronco on Apr 23, 2010 9:09 AM MDT up reply actions
I wonder how long it will take to get contracts on the first round picks. I bet we don’t have any issues like last season with the hold outs, mostly based upon picking later in the round.
I hope no holdouts
but most teams wait until the final week to get contracts done because they don’t want to give these young men a LOT of money with nothing but time on their hands until training camp.
Owning the Patriots since September 9, 1960
Tim, at first, Broncos country was divided on Tebow, but that division shrank with each troll sighting, IMO.
I am excited to see what Tebow’s determination can bring. He said, again and again, that he was going to show McD that he is worth a first round pick. He said that he can’t wait to do things for McD like he did for Coach Meyer. He said he was driven by the haters, which is good because he had a ton of them. After hearing his interviews , last night, I feel a lot more comfortable with Tim Tebow. He’s not going to lie to us about hard work. He’ll be working 24 hours a day to become the best football player he can be.
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I agree,
And I can’t help but love a player with that kind of passion.
Tebow may Cry when he is sad….but its not the same as a TO cry. Tebow cries because he is incredibly passionate and always blames himself. To cries cuz he didn’t get the ball.
"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
- Thomas Alva Edison
"Success is not a place at which one arrives, but rather... the spirit with which one undertakes and continues the journey."
- Alex Noble
+1. He is always working 24hrs a day to do his best in every thing he takes on. My Dad always said, If somethings not worth doing your best, its not worth doing at all. Tebow embodies this.
I cant stop war chanting....
by David G. Little on Apr 23, 2010 8:28 AM MDT up reply actions 2 recs
I'm about tired of you folks labeling every pissed off fan who didn't want Tebow a TROLL
Bullshit. I think it was a STUPID FREAKING pick!
TROLL!!!!!
I’m willing to wait and see if McD can get the high reward from this high risk.
I’m hopeful.
We’ll see how they draft these next few rounds.
by Whidbey Bronco on Apr 23, 2010 9:17 AM MDT up reply actions
I was def. a naysayer for the past few months
Even getting mad when his name was brought up. But as soon as I saw him put on that hat I couldn’t help but smile. It was really weird for me
by TXBroncoFan on Apr 23, 2010 8:37 AM MDT reply actions 1 recs
That was my EXACT experience! Its like hes the Dalai Lama of NFL! HAHAHA
Those that cant coach, compete!
Failing to plan is planning to fail.
All I want is 53 Rod Smiths. Is that asking too much????
"Peyton Hillis didn’t rip the sleeves off his jersey, they flew off out of fear."
Calijoefornia.
Same for me Too
I have adamantly said that Tebow shouldn’t be drafted. But once we did it I had this feeling like, this could be great.
How do you keep the Broncos Humble?
"Just show them the film. Show them the film." - Josh McDaniels
“Gruden lauded Gators coach Urban Meyer and suggested Florida quarterback Tim Tebow could ‘revolutionize’ the pro game when he is eligible for the 2010 draft.”
I cant stop war chanting....
by David G. Little on Apr 23, 2010 8:45 AM MDT reply actions
This comment is the key.
This comment is what the pick is all about. There are people out there that see professional football moving in a different direction. How could it not? HS football went from primarily 3 yards and a cloud of dust to running the ball three times in a game. The top college programs in the land are running offenses where offensive tackles play their entire career without putting a hand on the ground. You have Bill Belichick and Mike Shannahan visiting Florida practices and “stealing plays”, which, in NE’s case, let to the best offensive season in the history of the NFL.
Think about Denver’s offense last year and for that matter NE’s offense the last few years. There are a lot of similarities in what NE and DEN do and what these major college programs are doing. Moreover, look at the popularity of the wildcat, single-wing stuff we’ve been seeing. Now you’re even closer to FLA with the direct snap run-option plays with a great athlete back there that may be able to pull it off. Obviously, the option portion of Urban Meyer’s spread offense will not work in the NFL— there is too much lateral speed in the league for that stuff to work we’ve seen it fail before. However, the quick passing game built on a mix of possession guys and extreme speed can be implemented successfully as it already has in NE.
Then, you add the X-Factor of Tebow and the plays he can make in short yardage (which is a real issue for spread teams— just look at the problems we had and NE passing on 4-2 last year in Indy), the plays he can improvise with his athletic ability, and his leadership attributes. It’s going to take a year or two, but I gotta believe McDanials can coach him up and hone his skills in the NFL short-passing game and how to drop a deep ball on Demerias Thomas four or five times a game.
This pick is extremely fascinating on this level. I’m always reminded of the best piece Ted Bartlett wrote for MHR every time I see the C word. Let’s face it, the character stuff is overplayed and simple, and it reminds me of the lazy articles after the Masters— “Phil and his family good, Tiger and his strippers bad”. Life is more complicated than that. For those of you that read my post in the Tebow thread last night know how I feel about it. I got that off my chest and I’m ready to see how this pick transforms the Broncos. The big question is, will it revolutionize the NFL? We’ll have a front row seat.
Won't bow. Don't know how.
by ButteBronco on Apr 23, 2010 9:34 AM MDT up reply actions 4 recs
rec'd buddy
sums up my feelings to a T
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Apr 23, 2010 10:02 AM MDT up reply actions
A story
Anyone who follows HS football, likely knows Don Bosco Prep, the #1 school in the nation last year.
When I attended, we had good teams too, but not that good. The school was different. It went after top talent, even if they weren’t Catholics, sometimes hard-luck inner city kids, and the football coach was no saint.
BTW, I myself, have zero belief in gods, then and now.
About 10 years ago, the Prep went through a transformation, from top to bottom, deciding to emphasize religion and character, in all personnel and students. Being a non-believer alumnus, I wasn’t thrilled, but the results are impressive. The academic quality went up, donations went up, and the school became a state and national powerhouse in more than 10 sports.
Pat B just got discussed, embarrassed, and eventually deeply saddened the crap behavior of Mike S’s choices. He wanted a transformation and to clean house. It’s not an OR, , talent vs character, it’s an AND.
Of course TT is who he is because his parents are missionaries and he was home schooled. It’s unrealistic to expect something different. I’m not going to “blame” him for that, as long as he respects other people’s faith or choice not to believe in gods.
Do I think this can work in the NFL? Yes, but I wouldn’t think so without having seen the concept work at Don Bosco Prep. It works best if you go all out, consistently stick to the policy, and you don’t have much competition for this niche. Right now, overwhelmingly, most NFL clubs will look the other way now and then, so I think if the Broncos stick it out, they will pull it off.
Anyone who has been close to a murder victim know that murder can be the stone dropped in the placid lake, that changes the future of many who remain.
by MichaelCushman on Apr 23, 2010 8:52 AM MDT reply actions 3 recs
Can anyone copy-paste Woody’s article for me? I’m not a member of that silly establishment he writes for, but I’m curious nonetheless. :)
Fix the line, Moreno will be fine.
From Woody's mouth...
In this space last Sunday, I strongly recommended that the Broncos go for Tebow and wrote: Make it happen, McDaniels. The Broncos made the best pick of the draft, and Josh made it happen.
One jersey No. 15, Tebow, replaces another No. 15, Brandon Marshall. They are quite far apart.
Woody Paige is happy
One question: should I be worried now?
by Rob4Braves on Apr 23, 2010 8:55 AM MDT reply actions 1 recs
I was luke warm on the pick.
I had really been luke warm on the whole draft. I was starting to come around on the Tebow pick and then I read Woody’s article and now I don’t know what to think. I am just telling myself that woody has to be right sometimes right?
Great comment I found in a recent Pats Pulpit piece on Tebow
I’d also offer McDaniels as a possibility, as the current Denver O-playbook is written for a guy with so-so arm strength. And having a QB in Denver who is prone to taking off helter-skelter on bootleg-come-runs… hello, Jake Plummer 2: Electric Boogaloo.
lmao!
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
Could you image this [with a sheep eating grin]
If he turns out to be a great quarterback in 10 years with multible playoffs appearances, who would be on the Tim Tebow wagon then? mmmh? Some of you guys around here act like whinny children that never get your way, always wah…wah…wah…Everywhere you go your always in a hurry, don’t like lines, never make mistakes and always and I mean always are right in everything you do…Ha!
That stupid McDaniels!
Why, I spent four weeks watching YouTube videos for gods sake! I know better!
We should of drafted “X” and we should of drafted “Y”, no seriously, just watch their YouTube clips. Actual game footage is irrelevant.
I know better, and I didn’t get my way so now I’m gonna pout.
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魏 多福
hahaha good old youtube as a player evaluator.
"To all the critics thank you, you have been a motivation to me and will continue to be a motivation to me." - Tim 'the Mile High Messiah' Tebow
by David G. Little on Apr 23, 2010 9:17 AM MDT up reply actions
Does pouting help? If it would, I'd try, cuz I saw a few guys I really wanted to be Broncos pass us by while we drafted QB & WR...
Maybe if I start out pouting tonight we’ll draft a Center? DL? LB? CB?
I got my lip out already.
by Whidbey Bronco on Apr 23, 2010 9:20 AM MDT up reply actions
BTW i guess you don't accept ANY of the player evaluations from the staff here either?
Utube. You gotta love Sesame Street sarcasm. Makes you feels smart does it?
by Whidbey Bronco on Apr 23, 2010 9:22 AM MDT up reply actions
Preparation
From all accounts Tebow is big on preparation, hard work off the field, as well as on it. There is a QB that plays for the Colts who also is big believer (intentional word choice) in off-the-field preparation. He has has turned out to have a fairly nice NFL career.
You know I mentioned Roger Stabauch earlier as a similar charachter type (as Tebow)
His style is pretty similar as well. Roger the Dodger was one of my heroes as a kid. He was always of very high character and he could always move very well…
All it took for his success was Landry, his staff and some talent around him to be truly one of the greats. (I believe his accuracy early was in question as well) The only down-side of this comparison is how long it took him to mature …but teaching has evolved dramatically since then… it should happen (or NOT happen) much quicker for Tim… Oh yeah, he had that future Bronco QB to compel him!
This gives me hope.
Hmmm...divided we're not?
There are people who despise Christianity. My grandfather is one of them…I tolerate his tirades because it enrages him that I believe in God. I don’t go to church, but that’s besides the point. I’ve already seen references to Focus on the Family, yawn. Planned Parenthood, I’m sure, has supporters in the NFL. So what, Tim Tebow made a commercial. His beliefs are personal. My wife’s mother was told by Doctors to have an abortion at 6 months because she and my wife were sharing blood and killing each other. Both were born, so my wife has the same views on abortion as Tebow. Does that mean I am anti-abortion? No, it means my wife is…
My point is, get over the religion thing. Please. It really isn’t that big of a deal. It’s not like he is going to force America to change its abortion policies. Of course he will advocate for what he believes in, no different than anyone else with a National Voice. Move on.
The Broncos are a better team with Tebow than without.
Though I will say this…it would be so much easier if he was just like every other guy out there. Except, he wouldn’t be the guy McD wanted to draft at #25. lol
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by Tim Lynch on Apr 23, 2010 9:40 AM MDT reply actions 2 recs
I very much like taking the road less traveled myself... But I don't like to trust others to do so with that which i value in hand!
But then I don’t suppose I want my daughters to marry hum-drum slugs so i guess i’ll have to learn to not be afraid of a man who’ll take risks for what he believes in…
yes, I just compared the men who marry my daughters to the man who leads my team… it’s almost that important!! (almost almost)
On abortion… I’m anti-abortion but my political views are pro-choice. I don’t like to dictate my morality upon others without being able to prove it’s murder. (feels like it though) and I promise to stray from political discussion as often as possible
Go Broncos
BTW “the Broncos are a better team with Tebow than without”???
I’d still rather have Dan Williams & Kyle Wilson or some such pair.
by Whidbey Bronco on Apr 23, 2010 10:07 AM MDT up reply actions
I just hope Tebow isn't the next......
Frost or Crouch. I think he is better, but I have a bit of fear. We’ll know if 2-3 years. As I said on another post, I just hope McD is here in 3 years to see if this all pays off. If we stink for the next two years, then he may not be here. I think we will be a decent team (fringe playoff team for next 2 years) so McD should be here.
"Pain don't hurt" - Swayze (Road House) -- We miss you man!
The line will be key
and a couple more young receivers would be nice. We can give him what he needs to succeed that the guys you mentioned never had. Will we? I sure hope so.
"All we're trying to do is win the *********** game!" -- Josh MF McDaniels tearing into his offensive line after three false starts in the red zone. The tirade turned the tide of the game, and the Broncos dominated from that point on.
by broncosmontana on Apr 23, 2010 10:06 AM MDT up reply actions
Totally agree about the line....
a good line can make an offense with average talent at skill positions look very good and a bad line can make an offense with great talent at skill positions look awful. We must start addressing the interior line tonight.
"Pain don't hurt" - Swayze (Road House) -- We miss you man!
Smart Football's Take
One thing’s for sure….no team is being talked about more than our Broncos today!
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http://smartfootball.com/grab-bag/tebow-goes-in-the-first-round-to-the-broncos
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What makes the discussion interesting really gets to the nature of quarterback, as opposed to almost all other positions in sports. Namely, that usually when you see these debates you’ll see them regarding whether to take a guy with great character and questionable talent, or great talent and questionable character. The thing about Tebow is that he not only has great character he actually has a great deal of talent, at least in terms of his big frame, good feet, and overall arm strength
Some new info
Just heard on ESPN that Tebow will have a press conference at 2pm EST…..11pm pacific time.
Floyd Little: HOF Class of 2010.
2009 NBA Champions L.A Lakers
2009 NBA Finals MVP Kobe Bryant
There's a link on the DB video page.
Demaryius Thomas speaks at 11:45 MDT and Tebow will speak later in the afternoon.
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by Troy Hufford on Apr 23, 2010 11:00 AM MDT up reply actions
Let's not be sheep....
I have read MHR nearly every day for the past 18 months….and the cycle has gone from unwavering support of Cutler/Shanahan to unwavering support of Orton/McDaniels….and now it appears without even a backward glance we are shifting to unwavering support for Tebow/McDaniels….so a couple of things come to mind:
1) What happened to all those who believed with all their hearts that all Orton needed was another year in the system and on to the Super Bowl we go? He seems on his way out the door to me….
2) What happened to the consensus that our OFFENSIVE LINE needed work…to date,we have brought in 2 QB’s some defensive help, but little help for the offensive line…perhaps the theory is that a mobile QB will preclude the need for an offensive line.
3) We traded up to get Brandstater, we traded picks to get Quinn, we traded picks to get Tebow, we traded Cutler to get Orton (and picks)….I am sorry, but no matter how you parse the tea leaves, we have done a lot of horsetrading, and in the end probably given up more than we have gotten in return and we still do not have a de facto franchise QB….we can all hope that Tebow emerges….and some have argued that this will make Orton better (???), and I have no idea where any of this leaves Quinn (or Brandstater for that matter)….but really, there is nothing that is even close to a sure thing here…
McDaniels is supremely confident, and MHR readership tends to love him…but I wonder, if this whole experiment fails and McDaniels is shown the door next year when Bill Cowher makes himself available, will we be dancing on his grave or singing his praises….he has inexorably left his mark on this franchise by dismantling a squad in a program with a tradition for winning…I would say that the 2010 version of the Broncos had better show an improvement or his tenure here will be short…he has today and tomorrow to get it right…I have no doubt that he will position himself to get Toby Gerhart (a really good player who does nothing to solve our problems), and then out of the handful of picks left, he will set about trying to plug HUGE HOLES in our offensive line (got center?)…and if it works he will have his high character guys and a divided fan base will be less so…but if it does not, I am not sure, no matter what we may write on this blog about our love of Tebow or Orton, that we will support a group of great morally upstanding guys that get their heads handed to them every Sunday….
I, for one, will reside in the camp marked SHOW ME, DON’T TELL ME…..not quite skeptical, and not quite optimistic…I don’t like Tebow’s politics or “wear it on the sleeve” mentality, but I will hope he succeeds if he is the Broncos QB…I imagine, since it is a league of very rich men, there are many with political or religious beliefs that differ from my own….part of getting along as a nation is respecting that Tebow can invoke the name of God every few minutes whereas I can defend the wisdom of Darwin…neither one of us is right and neither one of us is wrong until further notice…but as football fans, we can surely wonder if McDaniels has some sort of grand plan or if he has no plan at all and is just chewing through players until a handful see it his way…and I fear, most of all, that he will run out of time before he finds enough of his kind of guy….and I wonder…no fear…what will be left behind…
What if you don't know Jack....but Jack knows you?
by Hugo Norton on Apr 23, 2010 11:04 AM MDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm not a big fan of skipping the Trench positions, but...it is what it is. lol
Kyle Orton is no dummy, he knows this means his future is all but done. He will come up this year and play his ass off and McX will likely attempt to trade him to a team that he would excel the most at. Or we let him walk. Then we’ll get compensation from the NFL.
I like Orton…great guy. I think he is probably disappointed he didn’t get his fair shake here, but he can’t believe that McD just drafted Tebow to remain a situational player for the next 10 years….. I hope we send him to Carolina. They have a good running game and need a good game manager. Kyle Orton would be perfect for them.
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"neither one of us is right and neither one of us is wrong until further notice"
nice. I remember reading that somewhere, thanks for putting it back in my head. Smart.
McD’s failure scares the hell out of me!!!
I’m far from BAAAAing but I’m still somehow sold on McX …they got balls …and a chance to redeem themselves tonight and tomorrow
or else
by Whidbey Bronco on Apr 23, 2010 12:17 PM MDT up reply actions
“I want to be a great quarterback,” Tebow said. " … For the next few years, my mindset is going to be to repay him for what he did for me, believing in me. Just like it was when I was at Florida. My biggest joy was doing things for Coach Meyer, winning championships, being able to help him."
"To all the critics thank you, you have been a motivation to me and will continue to be a motivation to me." - Tim 'the Mile High Messiah' Tebow
by David G. Little on Apr 23, 2010 11:14 AM MDT reply actions
I know the hype here is all about Tebow
but is anyone else completely pumped about DeMaryius Thomas? He obviously wasn’t on hardly anyone at MHR’s radar because we hid our interest in him so well, but if you go back and watch you tube videos of him, this guy seems like an elite receiver, on passing plays AND on running plays.
Pretty happy about Tebow too though, i just never thought we would end up with him.
by black_knight101 on Apr 23, 2010 11:19 AM MDT reply actions
I am stoked about Demaryius. He was on my radar since late march, when I started going through some acc film a little bit more.
I should have been making mocks, all along. hahaha jk. I don’t have the patience to diligently make a new mock every week.
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by Troy Hufford on Apr 23, 2010 11:26 AM MDT up reply actions
Thomas is a stud
He is not better than Dez Bryant though. I guess the character issues where the ones that prevailed, but Dez Bryant i a freak of nature.
LOL
Prisco made some points, but was mainly just mean spirited and hysterical. Not to mention misinformed on a few points. I am no fan of Woody Paige but like him or not, he usually has REASONS for thinking what he does, and he lays them out.
I hope this works out; it is a gamble but this isn’t the same as taking a gamble on Dex Bryant. This is taking a gamble on a kid who has some issues with his fundamentals but none with his heart, his character or his work ethic. Those are things you can’t teach a guy.
Fundamentals, well. If Tebow is really a pro he can fix that.
McDaniels G-Jacked the shizzat outta the Browns for Brady Quinn. Word!
I think one of the key things that McD asways mentions that often get over looked..
Is how important it is to have guys in the locker room that want to be a Bronco want to be team players, want to be leaders and set an example and want to win.. together.
The guys that have left, did not want to be here, did not want to be team players and did not want to work with the HC to win.
So we get draft picks instead and McD gets to hand pick the guys he wants on his roster, knowing full well that they all want to be here, and they all want to work with Josh towards winning.
That is the most important thing to take from the drama filled last year and a bit.
Josh new that as a HC you need to have guys that want to play for him and each other not for them selves and there own ego balloon. That is McGenious.
I don't know guys
It’s not my job to evaluate football talent and I’ll always be a Bronco fan, but when I got up this morning and opened the paper to see who we drafted, I was stunned. No O-line and most critically, no center, no linebackers. Instead, two more reach picks like Alphonso and Olson last year. There’s some serious dice being tossed here and I can’t remember a time in my following of this team (better than 45 years now) that I’ve seen a more controversial tack taken. I’m of course hopeful, but I certainly sympathize with those that are less than enamored with the direction the team has taken over these last seventeen months. Hopefully some needs are addressed starting tonight with some very shrewd and high value picks. I remain a fan and hopeful, aye-yigh-yigh!
Go Broncs!
It's "just" football
It was only round one, though.
There are still 6 more rounds to go. It’s hard to be upset after one round of drafting.
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by Troy Hufford on Apr 23, 2010 1:25 PM MDT up reply actions
My prediction: We'll have 4 picks tonight.
That is all. lol
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by Troy Hufford on Apr 23, 2010 2:50 PM MDT up reply actions
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