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I Melt With You - Do the Broncos Really Play Poorly in Humidity?

Last week, as I was discussing the Broncos upcoming schedule, I made a comment that you hear from time to time:

Denver, humidity, and early games never mix.

After making this sort of a statement, I realized I was simply making like a member of the Black Hole--offering up an opinion without any data to back it up.  I had heard this mantra before (cold-weather teams don't play well in humidity), so I was simply reproducing something that seemed, at first, to be common sports-knowledge.  Also, I remembered well enough the first game of the 2005 season, in which Jake Plummer (who should just now be retiring a Bronco) led an excellent Broncos team into Miami, only to wilt under the oppressive heat and swamp-like conditions of south Florida.  The outcome was a 34-10 butt whoopin', the likes of which only Raiders teams dare to tread.  

So both my tendency to repeat what others have said, along with a selective memory, endeared me to the ever-ready generalization.  Luckily I decided to check and see if the generalization held swamp water.

I'm not recommending this to anyone, but I spent several hours gathering weather data from every Broncos regular-season game from 2000-2009.    Along with wins, losses, and scores, I recorded the temperature, the relative humidity level, and the wind speeds at kick-off.   If there was a correlation between what the Broncos were doing on the field and the weather, I would be sure to find it with 10 seasons of data.

So you'd like to know, wouldn't you?  Do the Denver Broncos wither under the soggy heat like a Sebastian Janikowski field-goal attempt in December?

Survive the jump, and I'll give you the results of what happens when you stop the world, lock yourself in a room with NFL game-books, and face Mother Nature mano a mano.

Star-divide

Moving Forward Using All My Breath

First, a little background about humidity.  Relative humidity, which is what you hear on the news each night, and what the NFL gives in their game-books, isn't necessarily a reflection of how muggy or oppressively "sticky" the weather is when playing.  So, in order to tell how muggy a day is, one needs a little more. 

The good news is that using this complex formula, one can estimate how "muggy"  a game is with temperature and relative humidity data, which the NFL game-books do provide.  So I was indeed able to calculate how sticky, hot, and oppressive each game was for the Broncos over the last decade.  This piece of data is actually called the Dew Point Temperature, but it really is a measurement that tells you how muggy it is.   And our friends over at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Association (NOAA) have provided us this handy scale for determining "mugginess:"

 

Muggy Weather Scale - Dew Point Temperature in Degrees Fahrenheit

  • Less than 50....Not Muggy
  • 50 - 59...Slightly muggy
  • 60 - 69...Moderately muggy
  • 70 - 79...Very muggy
  • Greater than 79...Unbearable!
So again, using 10 years of data, I've calculated this reading for every Broncos game--excluding games played indoors where the climate was controlled.  Here is a list of the games (and results) in which the Broncos played in at least moderately muggy weather, meaning they had a Muggy Index Score of 60 or greater:

Date Win/LossScoreOpp. ScoreOpponentHome/AwayRelative Humidity (%)Temperature (F)Muggy Index
10/2/2005 Win 20 7 Jacksonville Jaguars Away 0.82 82 75.94
9/11/2005 Loss 10 34 Miami Dolphins Away 0.64 89 75.21
10/3/2004 Win 16 13 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Away 0.61 86 70.95
12/2/2001 Loss 10 21 Miami Dolphins Away 0.82 76 70.10
10/22/2000 Loss 21 31 Cincinnati Bengals Away 0.88 73 69.23
11/21/2004 Win 34 13 New Orleans Saints Away 0.74 78 69.02
9/9/2007 Win 15 14 Buffalo Bills Away 0.93 70 67.88
9/19/2004 Loss 6 7 Jacksonville Jaguars Away 0.59 78 62.49
11/15/2009 Loss 17 27 Washington Redskins Away 0.77 70 62.45
10/8/2000 Win 21 7 San Diego Chargers Away 0.82 68 62.29
9/14/2003 Win 37 13 San Diego Chargers Away 0.69 73 62.21
9/7/2003 Win 30 10 Cincinnati Bengals Away 0.7 72 61.67
9/28/2008 Loss 19 33 Kansas City Chiefs Away 0.65 74 61.47
9/17/2000 Win 33 24 Oakland Raiders Away 0.55 79 61.43
9/24/2006 Win 17 7 New England Patriots Away 0.79 68 61.24
9/27/2009 Win 23 3 Oakland Raiders Away 0.49 81 60.01

 

The column on the far right is the Index, but there are a few other things one notices immediately from this table.  First, the Broncos have never played in Denver in the last decade in which the weather has ever been considered Moderately Muggy.  In fact, when looking at the data, I can only find one one home game (against Saint Louis in 2002) in the last 10 years in which the the game was even Slightly Muggy.   Second, the "muggiest" games were all in Florida, Cincinnati, New Orleans, or Buffalo.  If you've ever been to any of these cities, you can verify that it can get downright sweltering in these areas.    Third, it appeared as if San Diego, Kansas City, and Oakland, were close with respect to the intensity of muggy weather--at least during football season.  This fact surprised me, given Kansas City's reputation.  

On only 4 occasions in the past 10 years have the Broncos played in conditions the NOAA would consider Very Muggy.  The Broncos have gone 2-2 in those games.  Overall, in the 16 games over the last decade in which the Broncos have played in at least Moderately Muggy conditions, they are 10-6.  

It appears as if the Broncos don't melt after all. 

To further test this theory, I ran some good ol' fashioned correlation coefficients comparing how many points the Broncos scored in each game with how muggy (based on the Muggy Weather Scale) the game was.    The correlation coefficient over this 10-year-data set was -.060.  In other words, there is virtually no correlation whatsoever to how many points the Broncos scored to how muggy the weather was.  The same was true when I looked at points differential.  There just wasn't a significant correlation.

Just in case you were wondering about temperature and wind speeds, I ran correlations against these two variables and points scored as well.  The correlation coefficient for temperature and points scored was .0173.  And the correlation for wind speed and points scored was .085.  In other words, both variables had about as much correlation to the Broncos point totals as Jay Cutler does to team chemistry--none.  

In all three regression models, p-values were greater than .05, and thus, most stats guys (outside of Oakland) would reject the data as insignificant.  For a good and non-statistical explanation of this, click here.  Also, if you'd like my full data set, email me and I will send you the spreadsheet.  The data set includes from 2000-2009: 

  • Date
  • Score
  • Opponent
  • Points Differential (Broncos - Opponent)
  • Away/Home Game
  • Early/Late/Night Game
  • Weather (Sunny/Clear/Showers, etc.)
  • Relative Humidity @ Kickoff
  • Temperature - Celsius @ Kickoff
  • Temperature - Fahrenheit@ Kickoff
  • Wind Speed @ Kickoff
  • Muggy Index - Celsius @ Kickoff (Dew Point Temp)
  • Muggy Index - Fahrenheit @ Kickoff (Dew Point Temp)
  • Variables and Formulas used to calculate Dew Point Temp using Magnus-Tetens approximation (1974).
Lastly, if you want to take any Broncos game from any point in history, and you can get both the relative humidity level and temperature for that day, you can plug the data into this online calculator to tell you how muggy the day was.  But expect your friends to call you a big-time weather geek.  I'll simply say that you need to be shoved into a locker a time or two by Bill Romanowski.  

The Humidity Myth?

After looking at this data, I'm having a difficult time buying into the cold weather vs. hot weather team, or at the very least, that Denver is a team that will always be doomed when playing in hot and humid weather.  Yes, I've heard the rational before.  Teams like the Miami Dolphins have much better home records in September than they do in December, although after looking at the numbers, Miami's home record in December since 2000 is only 10-9.  So there goes that theory.  And NFL rosters are made up of players from a variety of climates and backgrounds, so I find it hard to believe that a guy like Tim Tebow is going to suddenly need an acclimation period if he returns to play in Florida.  

Brian Burke, over at Advanced NFL Stats, essentially came to a somewhat similar conclusion using a regression model that looked at team records by month and by category (warm teams, cold teams, and dome teams), although he did note an advantage for cold teams hosting dome teams late in the season.

Perhaps there is a slight hope, then, if the Broncos can ever host the Colts in the AFC Championship Game in January with freezing temperatures.  Until then, little Broncomaniacs every where can take their vitamins and go to sleep at night knowing that the Broncos won't melt under the heat because of the heat itself. 

It's only their execution that would make it so.  

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I think you may have just found the Holy Grail of NFL statistical analysis.

Kudos. It has been my dream for years to show a correlation between a totally random event like the weather and the outcome of football games. Alas, I have failed miserably.

by One.Cool.Customer on May 26, 2010 9:38 AM MDT reply actions  

Thanks, man. There is no failure. Only Tebow.

It's like what Lenin said... you look for the person who will benefit, and, uh, uh...

by TJ Johnson on May 26, 2010 11:51 AM MDT up reply actions  

But Dude,

That rug really tied the room together…

Hey, maybe there’s another correlation to be had. Do the Broncos perform better in cold weather situatons than warm weather teams?

So I see you rolled your way into the semis?

by OutOfYourElement on May 26, 2010 9:41 AM MDT reply actions  

You could, my friend. Later, I'll run a correlation of the opponents vs. temperature and see what I find.

I’m guessing the finding will be similar.

It's like what Lenin said... you look for the person who will benefit, and, uh, uh...

by TJ Johnson on May 26, 2010 11:52 AM MDT up reply actions  

Makes sense.

It seems like humidity will effect players the same, no matter ho “used” to it your are.As far as I know, it’s not like you can train yourself physically to perform better in humidity the same way you can with say, altitude. The humidity still going to change how you sweat, your body temperature, etc…pretty much no matter what you do.

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by Gr3yStreet on May 26, 2010 9:44 AM MDT reply actions  

Gr3y, I agree. At first, I kept going back to some stories I was hearing.

But the numbers didn’t seem to agree with the horror stories.

It's like what Lenin said... you look for the person who will benefit, and, uh, uh...

by TJ Johnson on May 26, 2010 11:53 AM MDT up reply actions  

Outstanding TJ my friend....just win the MF game!!!!

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by boydy2669 on May 26, 2010 9:46 AM MDT reply actions  

I'll do my job, mate!

It's like what Lenin said... you look for the person who will benefit, and, uh, uh...

by TJ Johnson on May 26, 2010 11:53 AM MDT up reply actions  

Nice work! Whew. I get sweaty and tired just thinking about

all the work you put in. ;-)

This basically proves an argument I’ve tried to make without any facts behind it, that the Broncos can play in humidity. You take a Broncos team that is better than Jax, and knowing this history, and on paper at least they should beat the Jaguars in that first game. Now, one could have more worries about them on the road in general, humidity or no. Most teams have a harder time on the road than they do at home. (That one I don’t think we have to research. ;-) )

Weird to see that there have been a number of muggy games in Oakland. I know it gets hot there at times but didn’t think it got that humid that often. (I live in SF, where humidity usually comes in the form of fog.)

Anyway, great work!

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by underdog on May 26, 2010 9:49 AM MDT reply actions  

I wonder how an NFL team would fare here in South Dakota

The muggiest, most humid horrific days in the summer, reaching the mid-high 90’s, and in a day’s time, you could be down into the 30’s with 40 MPH winds. It is the craziest and most awesome weather pattern I have ever known! Hot hot heat in the summer, blistering -30 degree colds in the summer. Take that, NFL!

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by Sayre Bedinger on May 26, 2010 9:59 AM MDT reply actions   1 recs

Or if the Texans didnt have a indoor stadium

Here in north houston in spring it’ll go from 80 degrees, low humidity, and a slight breeze to 98 degrees, muggy humid unbearable to 60 degrees and thunderstorms in about 4 hours.
Welcome to Houston, the “four seasons in a day” city

by Warren Todd on May 26, 2010 10:23 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

LoL Todd. I have a friend that lived there and he said the same.

I’ve been there 4 times, and got caught in the muggy weather once. That was not fun.

It's like what Lenin said... you look for the person who will benefit, and, uh, uh...

by TJ Johnson on May 26, 2010 11:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

It feels like a blast furnace

with a tepid bucket-o-mist thrown in for good measure. When I visited some family down there during a stretch of weather like that, we just stayed indoors. It took about 2 seconds to start sweating once you opened a door and stepped outside. As the Crypt Keeper might say, “Just miserable, baby!”

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by BroncTastic on May 27, 2010 8:34 AM MDT up reply actions  

Oh! Super Rec'd!

Take my advice... I'm not using it!
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by BroncTastic on May 27, 2010 8:34 AM MDT up reply actions  

Sayre, I have to rec this! Been there. And it's all true!

It's like what Lenin said... you look for the person who will benefit, and, uh, uh...

by TJ Johnson on May 26, 2010 12:04 PM MDT up reply actions  

I would imagine that a number of cities that are in a valley could get rather muggy, as well.

I know that where I live, Louisville, it can get pretty muggy because it is right along the Ohio River and in the “Ohio River Valley”, as well. In the summer, it can be a real nuisance.

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by Troy Hufford on May 26, 2010 12:12 PM MDT up reply actions  

Oh my God!

I used to live in Sioux Falls right next to the river, it was terrible! I run XC so I had to keep in shape during the summer, and let me tell you, that humidity cut my endurance in half.

by SoCalBronco1998 on May 26, 2010 12:52 PM MDT up reply actions  

This got me

All hot and bothered.

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by KaptainKirk on May 26, 2010 10:00 AM MDT reply actions  

umm.....I think that is a little TMI

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by DenBronx on May 26, 2010 10:18 AM MDT up reply actions  

Well there is just one thing to do then, Kap.

Smack a Raiders fan.

It's like what Lenin said... you look for the person who will benefit, and, uh, uh...

by TJ Johnson on May 26, 2010 11:56 AM MDT up reply actions  

Ditto,

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by Tempestuous Binary on May 26, 2010 10:52 PM MDT up reply actions  

Hahaha.

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by Tempestuous Binary on May 26, 2010 10:52 PM MDT up reply actions  

Mr. Ander....I mean Johnson....

You have out-done yourself again Dood!!

The ONLY factor I think that needs to be weighed in….if it wasn’t already…is the strength of the team played. If we went 50-50 in muggy conditions, but the 50% wins were against horrible teams and the 50% losses were against slightly worse-Great Teams….then the correlation coefficient is changed somewhat.

ok that was just me TRYING to sound smart….Great Read!!

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by DenBronx on May 26, 2010 10:26 AM MDT reply actions  

Good point, DenBrox! Hard to quantify bad vs. good, but that is very legitimate.

Still, I’ll wager the 10-6 at least shows they can hang when it gets all sticky.

It's like what Lenin said... you look for the person who will benefit, and, uh, uh...

by TJ Johnson on May 26, 2010 11:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

agreed

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
- Thomas Alva Edison

"Success is not a place at which one arrives, but rather... the spirit with which one undertakes and continues the journey."
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by DenBronx on May 26, 2010 12:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

The Broncos

beat the Bengals in humidity, even if it did take an inexplicable, as Verne Lundquist would say, play.

Brad James

by the new Bradfather on May 26, 2010 10:31 AM MDT reply actions  

haha, good one, Brad

It's like what Lenin said... you look for the person who will benefit, and, uh, uh...

by TJ Johnson on May 26, 2010 11:57 AM MDT up reply actions  

Absolutely

It’s not so much cold weather teams playing in humidity that is the problem. It’s hard going from dry weather to a humid environment. I have some experience from playing soccer in Colorado and then traveling down to Florida in mid summer . It is hard to cool off. Your energy is sapped quickly.

by sajent on May 26, 2010 10:51 AM MDT reply actions  

Sajent

I felt the same way too. So I wanted to see if that affected the outcomes of games and brought Denver to its knees. It appears to sap the other guys too…

Great comment, though. The anecdotal evidence definitely had me thinking about this issue.

It's like what Lenin said... you look for the person who will benefit, and, uh, uh...

by TJ Johnson on May 26, 2010 11:59 AM MDT up reply actions  

Sweat

I never had sweat dripping off my body in Colorado like I do living in the Ozarks. I didn’t sweat more when I first moved here than I do now. So humidity effects all people the same. IMO

Now that that is over.....

by 3nS on May 26, 2010 10:55 AM MDT reply actions  

Effect....and end result...

When you are used to the humidity it makes it easier to handle. I lived in Japan for a couple years, and being an island the humidity factor would be 99 or 100 most of the summer. top that off with 99 or 100 degree weather…and boy….

Having acclimated to it, unacclimated to it, and the re-acclimated to it…being used to it helps, even if only a little.

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
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by DenBronx on May 26, 2010 11:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

Ozarks, man, oh man. Now that can get muggy.

It's like what Lenin said... you look for the person who will benefit, and, uh, uh...

by TJ Johnson on May 26, 2010 12:00 PM MDT up reply actions  

especially at Lake of the Ozarks.....

walk out of the AC, and you were drenched in sweat. At least there was party cove.

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by mdierk on May 26, 2010 3:27 PM MDT up reply actions  

Uniform Color.

I worked construction in Miami for 3 years. People wear white clothing there because it deflects heat. Didn’t the Broncs once show up in Florida “forgetting” their dark uniforms? So they had to wear white. Didnt they get fined for that? Maybe we could benifit if we wore light orange uniforms insead of dark blue.

by RenoPaul on May 26, 2010 11:01 AM MDT reply actions  

I think that was San Diego

"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
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by DenBronx on May 26, 2010 11:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

Reno, EXCELLENT POINT. Just excellent. If I did this over again, the other variable I would

have put in my spreadsheet would have been uniform color.

Great point. Probably wouldn’t have affected the data to the point of correlation, but it is a great point.

It's like what Lenin said... you look for the person who will benefit, and, uh, uh...

by TJ Johnson on May 26, 2010 12:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

I saw on NFLN the other day about home field advantage

and Don Shula said that the Dolphins would wear their away white uni’s so that the visiting team and to wear their home dark uni’s. It was all to help keep the Dolphins cooler.

For years, San Diego did the same thing, but with the weather in San Diego, I don’t think it was as much of a factor.

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by DesertBroncoFan on May 26, 2010 12:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think it's a good tactic, don't you?

However, I think for the well-conditioned athlete of today, it’s probably not as useful.

By the way, great tag line. Best line EVER.

It's like what Lenin said... you look for the person who will benefit, and, uh, uh...

by TJ Johnson on May 26, 2010 12:24 PM MDT up reply actions  

Nice TJ,

Your data proves what I was thinking mostly. Although, I live in Northern California and have lived in San Diego and to my experience muggy days are really few and far between out here. But, your data shows that doesn’t it. It’s all about conditioning and team depth at the end to the day.

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by bchiper on May 26, 2010 11:02 AM MDT reply actions  

Agree, bchiper. I'm glad I looked at the data.

I’ve been operating under the assumption Denver was doomed in muggy games from quarter 1. Makes me think they can take Jacksonville next year in week 1.

It's like what Lenin said... you look for the person who will benefit, and, uh, uh...

by TJ Johnson on May 26, 2010 12:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

Shouldn't be a problem winning game 1

But, we’ll have to see how camp goes first I think. I’m still concerned about the health of the Ryans, that could have an effect on how effective the Offense is.

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by bchiper on May 26, 2010 12:58 PM MDT up reply actions  

Excellent Post

Great work putting all of this statistical information together.

Highly rec’d.

by DoubleJay on May 26, 2010 11:07 AM MDT reply actions  

Thanks, Double J. And...please, stay out of the humidity!

It's like what Lenin said... you look for the person who will benefit, and, uh, uh...

by TJ Johnson on May 26, 2010 12:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

from a manbearpig, I'll take that as a compliment

It's like what Lenin said... you look for the person who will benefit, and, uh, uh...

by TJ Johnson on May 26, 2010 12:02 PM MDT up reply actions  

I've worked in sweltering conditions in Tulsa and it can be tiring.

Mistifiers would come in handy at that point and a lot of substitutions.

by bfree2bronc on May 26, 2010 11:54 AM MDT reply actions  

Bfree, I agree, I've been in those situations too, and I agree. I'm guessing Zach Thomas got affected

just as much Denver, it seems.

It's like what Lenin said... you look for the person who will benefit, and, uh, uh...

by TJ Johnson on May 26, 2010 12:04 PM MDT up reply actions  

TJ

Good research where you admit you may have talked to fast and given the wrong info. Not too many would do that. Additionally, we don’t have to worry if it gets muggy in Jacksonville for our first game…can’t wait!!!

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by macklure on May 26, 2010 12:01 PM MDT reply actions  

Hey, Mack, first, let me say thanks.

Second, admitting you are wrong doesn’t make you a Raiders fan ;-)

It’s the exact opposite, actually!

109 days? Wow, it’s coming! Take it!!!

It's like what Lenin said... you look for the person who will benefit, and, uh, uh...

by TJ Johnson on May 26, 2010 12:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

Very nice

Thanks for taking that look at how one type of weather affects performance (or in this case, doesn’t affect it in any significant manner).

Rec’d

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by Brian Shrout on May 26, 2010 12:19 PM MDT reply actions  

Good job man, though you forgot the mention the 31-21 beatdown back in 1998...

man i hate the Dolphins, but oh that 38-3 revenge game in the playoffs was SAWEET!

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by Tim Lynch on May 26, 2010 12:24 PM MDT reply actions   1 recs

Tim, I hate Miami too. Especially the game a few years back when they beat us with the last second field goal.

I think I may have broken dry wall that day.

It's like what Lenin said... you look for the person who will benefit, and, uh, uh...

by TJ Johnson on May 28, 2010 1:57 PM MDT up reply actions  

Excellent article, Dude.

I think you left out a variable, though. Doesn’t the body heat and sweat of Jamarcus Russell’s body contribute to global warming (from heat) and an increase humidity (from his nasty sweat)? Or maybe Russell’s body just absorbs the humidity (you know… to curb his appetite) and actually makes it less muggy?

Of course, you’re the expert. Perhaps you know something I don’t.

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by Troy Hufford on May 26, 2010 12:40 PM MDT reply actions  

So . . .

If Russell flaps his arms in Oakland, you get snow in New York City?

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by Brian Shrout on May 26, 2010 1:05 PM MDT up reply actions  

You are absolutely right. Jamarcus Russell has had huge impacts on the earth's weather.

Jamarcus Russell uses his arm flaps to create the wind. That is where the jet streams came from.

Also, if you’ve ever wondered where the earth’s tilt came from… Jamarcus Russell’s weight is on the northern hemisphere. There is your explanation. Short and sweet.The top half of the earth is just too heavy and it tilts over 23.45 degrees.

Also, volcanoes only occur because of Jamarcus Russell. The mass of Jamarcus Russell pushes down on the surface of the earth and that creates pressure inside. The eruption is just the earth’s way of relieving the pressure caused by Jamarcus Russell’s immense weight.

There are others, I’m sure. These are just the basics.

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by Troy Hufford on May 26, 2010 1:15 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think so, Brian. Or an Icelandic volcanco

It's like what Lenin said... you look for the person who will benefit, and, uh, uh...

by TJ Johnson on May 28, 2010 1:57 PM MDT up reply actions  

so we'll win in Jax then?

good to hear it shouldnt directly affect us. Now can you run the data re: our propsect of winning w/o our starting left tackle? ugh…I dont want to know.

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by Orange and Blue on May 26, 2010 1:29 PM MDT reply actions  

O & B. Affirmative. That's another win now! I was wrong!

It's like what Lenin said... you look for the person who will benefit, and, uh, uh...

by TJ Johnson on May 26, 2010 2:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think

that some players will still have serious trouble. I remember watching the horrific beatdown Georgia put on my BSU Broncos a few years back. Part of it was that Zabransky was a renowned choke artist, but he also was extremely effected by the humidity. He was on Oxygen in the first quarter I think! So, while the whole team can get through I do believe certain players won’t react well and we should just hope it aint the QB. Of course I think all our QB’s are from places where it can get humid so I think we’re good.

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by Welcome2Boise on May 26, 2010 2:22 PM MDT reply actions  

That would make sense, Boise, that certain individuals could be affected, just like

altitude sickness. Good point. The good news is that this analysis was over a long period so those individual circumstances and occurrences were just a blimp in a larger sea.

But I agree with your general point. Altitude works the same way.

Thanks, Boise!

It's like what Lenin said... you look for the person who will benefit, and, uh, uh...

by TJ Johnson on May 26, 2010 2:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

Muggy is living in Kansas...

with little to no wind and opressive humidity. Next you are taking cover when the storm hits with hail, lightning and some tornadoes.

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by mdierk on May 26, 2010 3:31 PM MDT reply actions  

I'll spare you the "not in Kansas" bit, then, eh?

It's like what Lenin said... you look for the person who will benefit, and, uh, uh...

by TJ Johnson on May 26, 2010 4:58 PM MDT up reply actions  

Why?

I don’t think we’re in Kansas anymore Toto.

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by Brian Shrout on May 26, 2010 6:45 PM MDT up reply actions  

Lol, Brian. I´m glad someone did it!

It's like what Lenin said... you look for the person who will benefit, and, uh, uh...

by TJ Johnson on May 26, 2010 8:47 PM MDT up reply actions  

whats fun is...

I flew out to pick my sister up from college in Wichita, Kansas…..who knows why she went out there….but driving back to the East Coast…I was actually able to turn and say “I don’t think we’re in Kansas anymore!” HAH gotta love a 20 hour drive

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by DenBronx on May 27, 2010 8:29 AM MDT up reply actions  

Try Iowa sometime

My dad flew out to Denver for a job interview one July. When he got back, he said that when he stepped off the plane in Des Moines, he felt like someone had dumped a bucket of water over his head.

We live in an age when instant gratification isn't fast enough

by Brian Shrout on May 27, 2010 8:54 AM MDT up reply actions  

wow great post

you sure are one smart feller ;p

by a16416 on May 26, 2010 4:33 PM MDT reply actions  

Smart? Nah. Smart is getting Randy Moss for a 4th-round draft pick.

And whoever gave him up for a 4th-rounder would, let’s see, be the opposite of smart.

It's like what Lenin said... you look for the person who will benefit, and, uh, uh...

by TJ Johnson on May 26, 2010 4:58 PM MDT up reply actions  

you mean be a Raider....I'm sorry wow...that was

blatantly mean of mean I meant to say that would be a Cough raider Cough!!

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by DenBronx on May 27, 2010 8:30 AM MDT up reply actions  

XLNT article

Thanks for doing the research and number crunching! Excellent write-up, highly rec’d.

by RedSavina on May 26, 2010 8:43 PM MDT reply actions  

Savina, thanks! I´m not a meteorologist, but I realized after doing this piece, they serve

a useful purpose, haha.

It's like what Lenin said... you look for the person who will benefit, and, uh, uh...

by TJ Johnson on May 26, 2010 8:49 PM MDT up reply actions  

Well done TJ - you must be a machine!

Well lets just hope that Jax away game ads to the 10 column and not the 6!

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by Rugbywits on May 27, 2010 12:40 AM MDT reply actions  

I was wondering that as well...

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by DesertBroncoFan on May 27, 2010 9:09 AM MDT up reply actions  

You know, good point. I could have been pulling game books and I'll go back and look at this game.

Perhaps they gave the data outside and I mistakenly put it inside there. Let me take a look.

It's like what Lenin said... you look for the person who will benefit, and, uh, uh...

by TJ Johnson on May 27, 2010 12:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

But that will take away one of our wins

I looked at the stats for that game and saw that Big Al Wilson got a TD on INT. I remember that play clearly. Aaron Brooks was coming under pressure and just sort of flipped the ball out right into the hands of the charging Wilson.

I couldn’t believe that Brooks actually thought he was going to get away with that!

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by DesertBroncoFan on May 27, 2010 12:38 PM MDT up reply actions  

Well I looked at the game book and they listed weather conditions as:

Temp: 78° F (25.6° C), Humidity: 74%, Wind: N 12 mph

Despite being in the dome. Open air?

It's like what Lenin said... you look for the person who will benefit, and, uh, uh...

by TJ Johnson on May 28, 2010 1:53 PM MDT up reply actions  

10-6 Away

Love this:

Overall, in the 16 games over the last decade in which the Broncos have played in at least Moderately Muggy conditions, they are 10-6.

When you consider that thats a 10-6 record in away games.

Great work as always TJ

by mark eaton on May 27, 2010 9:40 AM MDT reply actions  

ANother Myth to bust.... Maybe
Second, the “muggiest” games were all in Florida, Cincinnati, New Orleans, or Buffalo. If you’ve ever been to any of these cities, you can verify that it can get downright sweltering in these areas.

This reminded me of the “Common Knowledge” that West coast teams don’t do well in early games that are on the east coast. Maybe this has already been done, but I couldn’t find it…

by gOOn on May 27, 2010 1:43 PM MDT reply actions  

That makes sense.

I’d say that, in my opinion/experience, New Orleans is muggiest with Florida a close second and Cincinnati a very distant third. (I haven’t been to Buffalo in the summer, only the early spring when it was cold.) Cincinnati has about 3 or 4 days per year when the moisture from the Ohio River just lingers in the river valley and makes for a miserable day. For the most part, it has enough breeze to make things bearable, but those few days of stagnant air are very rough days.

Cincinnati has a few days out of the year that are ridiculous, but New Orleans in the dead of summer is just miserable. The reason people still live there can only be explained by their AMAZING food. :)

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by Troy Hufford on May 27, 2010 2:28 PM MDT up reply actions  

and Bourbon Street

but, alas, you’re too young to partake!

"It's all over Fat Man" - Tom Jackson to John Madden 1977 AFC Championship Game

RIP Barrel Man - 12/5/09

by DesertBroncoFan on May 27, 2010 2:45 PM MDT up reply actions  

I've been to Bourbon Street... I just couldn't partake in the drinking and what not. :)

The shops and mimes and restaurants and stuff are pretty interesting, though.

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by Troy Hufford on May 27, 2010 3:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

Goon, you could easily run this analysis with the data set.

Gives me a good thing to look at for next week.

It's like what Lenin said... you look for the person who will benefit, and, uh, uh...

by TJ Johnson on May 28, 2010 1:56 PM MDT up reply actions  

Great stuff!

My band actually played that song when it was still relatively new :O

I can only say that I sure hated having to leave Denver. The humidity in Missouri can be staggering, whereas it could be 105 in Denver but feel so much better. Alot to be said for dry heat….

But at least I feel more confident for our team after this enlightening article!Thanks Dude!

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by Broncotodd on May 28, 2010 8:59 AM MDT reply actions  

thanks, todd, and you get a gold star for recognizing the song as well!

It's like what Lenin said... you look for the person who will benefit, and, uh, uh...

by TJ Johnson on May 28, 2010 1:54 PM MDT up reply actions  

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