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Introduction

I want to start this post by thanking everyone here at MHR.  It has been refreshing to find a group of like minded people who love to post/debate the finer points of the Broncos.  I have been a long-time reader in the background and have come to thoroughly enjoy the array of talented and thoughtful columns, opinions, and insights shared by MHR members.  I live on the fringes of Raider Nation and Broncos news is... shall we say... a little light?  The only joy is after the Raiders suffer a beatdown by the hands of my favorite team and the local fan base comes whining over the airwaves of the local sports radio talk channel to commiserate. 

I have been a fan of writers such as Peter King and Michael Lombardi and have come to enjoy how they approach a myriad of issues around the league in their column.  In the same vein, I wanted to start a post detailing some of the issues (specific to the Broncos, but also touch on other relevant issues around the league).  This is mostly for my own benefit to capture some of the loose thoughts circling around in my head and put them to print.  To the jump...

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Elvis Dumervil and the Offseason

It was great news when Elvis reported to the OTA this past week.  A true class act to come in despite all the madness around his contract situation, the tender, the CBA, etc.  The guy has been nothing but a class act and I'm confident something will be worked out with the FO to make sure this guy is in a Broncos uniform for years to come.  However, I'm nervous about what seems to be a dangerous precedent set by our FO. 

The precedent?  A slow, reactive approach to contract negotiations with our core players.

Example:  In 2008, Casey Wiegmann was signed as a UFA after being dropped by his longtime team, the Kansas City Chefs.  After signing with Denver at a nominal amount (I believe the minimum), Casey went on and had a sensational year (after the retirement of long-time great Tom Nalen) – starting 16 games and being voted to his first Pro Bowl.  This was a clear case where a player had out played his contract.  Naturally, Casey thought he deserved a pay raise.  He approached the team and publicly aired he would rather retire than play on the under-market contract.  The FO remained quiet, but asked him to honor his contract and it would be looked into.  After Casey showed up for OTAs and played the good employee, he was rewarded with a new 2-year deal.  Now, I realize Casey struggled in 2009 and the team went in another direction this year, but like Elvis, the answer to a new contract for a deserving veteran seems to be a "let’s see" approach once you come in and play the good trooper.  Casey and Elvis have been (and were) good troopers, but I don’t see these attributes shared by many other NFL players. 

This practice (on the exterior) looks similar to the Patriots front office.  The Patriots have done well with a core group of veterans through their championship years, but it seems to be catching up to them now.  The Rodney Harrisons, Teddy Bruschis are gone and left in their place are the young group of players developed internally by the team.  However, you start to see those young players turning into veterans outperforming their contract (Vince Wolfork, Logan Mankins) who now openly express their anger at the organization, threatening holdouts, an MSM bonanza!  Could this be the reason for some of the diminished play out of the Patriots team?  Brady mentioned the veterans weren’t listening to Belichek last year resulting in some of the underwhelming results of the team – but can you blame them when the players see the treatment their teammates receive from the organization (especially ones who seem to be towing the company line)?

I recognize we have a relatively new administration, a new team-first attitude, a CBA showdown drama about to unfold, but we have come accustomed to a strong organization where players want to come and play.  But to maintain a strong organization where things like loyalty, team-first attitude are the mantra – it has to be a two-way street.  Instead of letting these issues fester in the press, can’t we get ahead of these issues, talk to agents, and take care of our own?  Let’s get Elvis that contract and show our team that the right way will be rewarded the right way.  I hate to think what will happen as our next wave of free agents come up for contracts (or outperform them) and we get to live through another offseason of listening to a slow front office. 

Now, I recognize there will always be contract issues to work out (and some aired publicly), I’m merely pointing out a trend I hope our team can escape as we bring in the type of players McDaniels is looking for.  I think he is doing the right things – I just want to keep the players who are doing the right things.  Let’s not continue this Belichek trait so we can keep the team competitive. 

Tim Tebow - The Lightning Rod

When I first learned we had drafted Tim Tebow, I was sitting in my hotel room in the middle of mainland China (business trip) thinking – what the heck are we doing?  Tebow!?  I have gradually warmed to the idea and have been generally impressed by the kids’ attitude and demeanor.  But wow, the venom generated by so many of the MSM about this guy!  What is it about him that makes all these people so outspoken about him? 

My opinion is this.  If you ever have a chance to draft a franchise quarterback, you do it.  No questions asked.  Look at all the teams still looking for a franchise quarterback.  When was the last time you saw a consistent effort out of teams like Buffalo, Cleveland, Minnesota (before Favre), Detroit (before Stafford), the Colts (before Manning), even the Broncos (before Elway and after).  A franchise quarterback changes the whole mindset of your team.  He instills his will in the team and wills it to win.  And sometimes, he has to moxie put the weight of the team on his shoulders and win the game himself.  Elway had this in spades.  Manning, Brady, Montana, Favre… I think you get the point.  Now think about everything you have heard from Tebow from his college career (not the mechanics or whatever silly bias the MSM throws at him).  Does he not fit this bill?  Thinking about this and what McDaniels has said to this point in the offseason, I think I see what he (Josh) sees in him and why he risked so much to go get him.  So he’s not ready yet (or maybe?), but when you have a chance to bring in a difference maker at the QB position and transcend your team, it’s not a question.

Quick Hits

·         Oh, the offseason.  Hope blooms anew.  And Raider Nation screams about how things will be different this year and how last year was an aberration.  Sorry, not buying it.  Jason Campbell is an upgrade for them, but he does not fit the vertical game this team is built around.  The offensive line is porous.  Yeah, they had a good draft.  Well, guess what, starting a rookie crop is a first class ticket to a top-5 pick in the next year’s draft.  Sorry Raiders, you are on your way to another 5-11 year (cue small violin in the corner)

 

·         The Jets are being touted as the team to beat next year in the AFC East.  I think this team is a classic example of replacing balance with bling, role players with name players.  Call it the Washington Redskin model.  We’ll see how it works for them.  But I don’t think this is a team as close as they seem to think they are

 

·         Speaking of the Redskins, I’m curious to see how the first year of Shanahan will play out.  I have all the respect in the world for Shanahan and think he is an unbelievable coach.  But his GM abilities are shaky at best.  Getting McNabb was a coup, but switching the defense to a 3-4 and alienating your best defender (Haynesworth)?  I think we are going to see the 2008 version of the Broncos (good offense, questionable defense) with this team

 

·         Andre Johnson – did you just experience a brain fart and come to your senses?  You signed a $60M contract 2-years ago and you starting whining about it?  Could you really spend $60M in your lifetime?  Maybe I’m calling out the wrong guy – Rick Smith, are you out of your mind?  If I’m on that team, I’m very interested in this move.  If the Texans make a move on the contract, I’m calling my agent!

 

I hope you enjoyed my post and welcome your candid thoughts.  Thanks for reading!

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I wonder what

Andre’s salary is if we add the signing bonus as an average of just the years since he received it. No wonder so many want to renegotiate; they already got the signing bonus, and want another one.
Nice post, i agree it for the most part, although I am not yet concerned about the FO. If we lock in players before we finish the upgrade, we put a cap on our potential improvement. Now once the upgrade is complete (SB caliber), by all means we have to be looking to lock them in as Broncos.

by idahobronc on May 26, 2010 1:18 AM MDT reply actions  

Sacto

I haven’t seen you around. I saw that you are a major lurker, but was this your first post?

I think definitely gets a contract and relatively soon. Showing up to OTA’s really hit a good note with McD. His pay day is coming.

You hit it right on the head: If you ever have a chance to draft a franchise quarterback, you do it. McD believes Tebow is a franchise QB. Enough said.

Raider Nation improved this off season, but they aren’t anywhere near playoff bound. They do have the opportunity to win more then 5 games :O.

Andre Johnson = DUMB.

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by Nick Cast on May 26, 2010 2:05 AM MDT reply actions  

Johnson isn't dumb

I live in Houston so I’m relativly close to the situation, all that really happened is that the best WR in the league, (Johnson) suddenly wasn’t the highest paid. This happens almost every year at some position or another. Andre didn’t hold out or cause a huge ruckus or anything, he missed the first 2 days of OTAs and then showed up happy as a clam. Didn’t Doom miss the first couple as well? Not a big deal at all and Rick Smith should pay the man!

by Warren Todd on May 26, 2010 8:56 AM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

He's dumb

because he negotiated his last contract 2 years ago and now he wants a new one. I understand how talented he is, but he just got a new contract. Plus, he negotiated his last contract by himself. Maybe if he hired an agent, he wouldn’t have a problem.

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by Nick Cast on May 26, 2010 2:20 PM MDT up reply actions  

And since then,

He went from being the top paid reciever to 3rd. His negotiating didn’t have anything to do with that

by Warren Todd on May 26, 2010 4:12 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

ugh....

First of all…I think we have pretty much hit the rookie wall on Tebow…(get it? the rookie wall?)

As things stand I think the people who will support him, will.
The people who will trash him, will.
and the people who are undecided, will….wait….and see…..

I don’t think anymore minds are going to change until we see him on the field, and therefore I think that bringing him up is a moot. point.

My next thought is in regards to the Raiders however, are a bit more unsettling.

The Raiders from a Bronco Koolaider Prospective – Jason Campbell is not a bad QB. He is in fact a pretty good QB overall. He was given a Brady Quinn Type of deal by playing behind a pretty bad o-line and playing for a pretty bad team overall. I think Campbell is a BIG upgrade for them. (not to mention he will be the highest character’d player on the team!)

Please…Will someone find Al Davis in whatever closet of whatever wearhouse he is being held hostage? (Think Raiders of the Lost ARC HAHAHA)
This team is ascending from Hell in a handbasket…..as apposed to going to. I think they have YEARS to go before we really really worry about them being a playoff threat, and I think they will implode before ever getting that chance, but for now…They are going to really be something to watch out for. You say you aren’t worried…I say I AM worried. Sure, Heyward Bey couldn’t catch a cold…BUT…with Al Davis locked up, Hell freezing over, pigs flying……..What if they taught him to catch? What if they actually found some coaches who could teach football instead of just boxing? What if…..I don’t even wanna think about it anymore.

The raiders are making the best choices they have made in decades. We should ALL be a little worried. If not for their playing ability….than for the sake of life as we know it.

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by DenBronx on May 26, 2010 10:08 AM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

We will know how good Tebow is

when he gets on the field. His first start will be highly talked about and will bring a lot of criticism.

The Raiders do not scare me just because they got Jason Campbell. Is he the best QB they have? Absolutely. But they have a lot of holes. Their offensive line is still a worry. Their defense still has problems. Lastly, they don’t have anyone to catch the ball. Heward-Bay is terrible. He can’t catch anything. Higgens and Schilens are there only decent receivers. Even they aren’t that good. They will be better then last year, but they won’t contend for anything but 3rd place in the AFC West.

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by Nick Cast on May 26, 2010 2:34 PM MDT up reply actions  

With Crazy Al seemingly

out of the picture…..I wouldn’t count them out of anything….I mean we let Jamarcus the Hutt beat us….

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by DenBronx on May 26, 2010 6:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

plenty of opinions on Tim Tebow...

my intent was not to tout Tebow, merely to point to the need for a franchise quarterback. The jury is certainly still out (or not in, depends how you look at it :)), but I think you have to go get those guys when the opportunity presents itself. I think Shanahans move for Jay Cutler was a perfect example of this.

As for the Raiders, like I stated above, I don’t think the Raiders are as “improved” as they think they are. I did like their draft — but how many will start this year? One? Maybe two? it will take a few years before this crop of players will make a significant impact for the team (I think this about our rookie crop as well though I have higher hopes). No question Jason Campbell is an improvement for them, but as long as Al calls for the drop back, 20-30 yard slings from the qb, I don’t think they will see the improvements they think they will see. Great collection of talent over there, but no one can tell the difference between “team” from a hole in the ground.

by Sacto Bronco on May 26, 2010 9:10 PM MDT up reply actions  

BTID

Thanks for reading. This was my first post — I’ve only made a couple of comments before this. We’ll see about the Raiders. The Raiders have always been a collection of strong individual talent, but they don’t play team ball and that’s why they get beat. Their draft was good, but it won’t be a couple of year (IMO) before this crop pays dividends.

by Sacto Bronco on May 26, 2010 8:25 PM MDT up reply actions  

Great post man...I enjoyed the read!

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by boydy2669 on May 26, 2010 5:17 AM MDT reply actions  

Nice post.

Great points. I never thought about Jason Campbell not being a good fit for their vertical game. Should be interesting.

by swg777 on May 26, 2010 7:07 AM MDT reply actions  

Nice post Sacto

I pretty much agree with what you are saying. I believe part of the issue with getting contracts signed or renewed is the uncertainty of the CBA for 2011 and beyond. But, they will get done just not as soon as we’d like.

Didn’t Haynesworth refuse to show up, I’m not sure that is Shannahan alienating him, he’s kind of done this to himself in my opinion.

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by bchiper on May 26, 2010 8:26 AM MDT reply actions  

Agreed about the CBA, but...

think about all the money we threw at the FA signings we had. We are quick on the trigger for a FA, but slow on our own players. This is the alarming precedent to me. Let’s take care of our own before we get crazy on FAs.

Haynesworth is an interesting case. He is a classic 4-3 DT guy, but is not interested in playing the nose in a 3-4. The weird thing is the Redskins were (I believe) in the top 10 for defense last year despite their horrid offense. Usually you don’t have a good defense unless you have the right personnel for that defense. Switching it up I think will prove problematic for them.

by Sacto Bronco on May 26, 2010 9:13 PM MDT up reply actions  

Have they neglected anyone, though?

The CBA is screwing up a year of many players careers. That’s unfortunate, but it’s true around the league. Doom’s agent and the FO are working on his contract right now. Orton’s situation is tough, but since they don’t know if they will keep him or not yet – or whether he should expect to start next year, which would then indicate the level of money he should be offered – he’s experiencing what many players are. Generally, our players seem well compensated – no one has asked Champ to give back money, or worried too much that DJ Williams is doing very well this year.

Why are we offering more to FAs (in some cases, but not all) more than some current roster players? They’re better than the people they are replacing, and we’ve in a competitive market. I haven’t seen a contract that really surprised me. These are veteran players who have produced at a high level on mostly winning teams. Bannan is a huge improvement over Peterson, and his contract reflects that, for example. I’m glad that the FO is ranking them higher – that’s the point of bringing them in. They’re better, we need better players and we spent a little to get the improvement. But we didn’t go crazy or drop Peppers money.

Haynesworth is an interesting case indeed. He’s complaining about how the coaches want to use him when making the most of any DL player in history. He’s had a reputation for being difficult and having trouble with motivation and effort. You know, it almost seems like deja vu to me – highly paid player doesn’t want to put out the effort to learn and develop in a new system. Many clubs are moving to the various advantages of the 3-4 – Washington is one. Btw, they did pick up a very good second NT in case Haynesworth won’t play there, but Denver hasn’t brought in a FA who acted like him (thank goodness) so I’m not clear if this comment was meant in support of some point. New coaches and coordinators bring in different schemes and it’s up to the players to get their heads on straight and put out effort within the system.

Gnothi Seauton

by Doc Bear on May 26, 2010 10:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

always enjoy your posts, Emmett

I think the Dumervil issue is certainly being masked by the madness around Tebow and the QBs. It also helps that Elvis is playing the role of the good employee and showing up to camp (if he wasn’t, I think we would be getting more air time). With that said, my point was I don’t think you can expect your key or core players to play the role of good employee all the time. I think you are seeing that with the Patriots this offseason. I also think it might be part of the reason why (according to Tom Brady) the team seemed to ignore their head coach and underachieve. The difference (of course) is Belichek has the rings to achieve buy in. I think after the headaches we all had while watching Cutler, Marshall, and Scheffler leave for their attitudes, I would like to see the FO mirror the expectations they have of their players. I would expect only so much if I were the employee.

The Haynesworth point was independent of my argument on the FO — merely an observation

by Sacto Bronco on May 27, 2010 12:12 AM MDT up reply actions  

Gotcha

Haynesworth threw me. I think that Doom understands the contract game that is unusual this year. He’d be a tough contract to work out anyway, until his coverage and run-stopping skills go up accordingly to try and match his pass-rushing, which is brilliant. The CBA has tossed a wrench – welcome, on the part of many owners – into the process of taking care of people. The NFLPA should never have signed an open invitation to get ripped off, but they did.

You know, on NE – when they were pushing to SB victories, their players did put a huge emphasis on cooperation and teamwork, even with regard to contracts. 7 of them took less money than they could have gotten to up the level of competition by attracting players with higher coast, and Brady was one of them. That approach worked, at that time – they had a strong us vs them approach.

I can say that the recent issues are substantial – I think that Belichick has made an unusual number of personnel errors recently (last couple of years). Only a single player from the 2009 draft will be starting for NE according to articles this week in Boston, despite a higher level of turnover. Given how much of the team was supposedly solid and ready to step up, that’s not very good. I think there are a lot of reasons whey teams go through changes, and I’m not sure how much is expecting employees to be good ones hurts the situation. Looking at the considerable loss of skills on defense has been a huge problem, and it won’t be fixed that quickly. That’s less of a show them the money issue as a personnel assessment issue, and they’ve had some unusual problems (for them) choosing who to keep and who to let move on. Seymour may have been a frankly bad idea, the DL in general hasn’t performed as well and even the secondary hasn’t been dealt with that well.

You could be right and the contract issues might be part of it. I’d like to see a little more evidence, but that’s just me and doesn’t mean much. I usually do.

Gnothi Seauton

by Doc Bear on May 27, 2010 6:39 PM MDT up reply actions  

Thanks for a good article

We live in an age when instant gratification isn't fast enough

by Brian Shrout on May 26, 2010 8:34 AM MDT reply actions  

Sacto Bronco thanks, enjoyed your article...

BTW, I was in Shanghai at the time of the draft and when we drafted Tebow I was I guess one of the few who loved the pick. We as Bronco fans I hope will in the near future experience yet another winning franchise QB in Tim Tebow. As John Elway put it during one of his interviews “He gives us a chance.” You’re right its not often you get a shot at a Franchise QB and we took advantage of it but the real test will be 2 to 3 years from now. I wouldn’t bet against him.

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by oc60 on May 26, 2010 9:13 AM MDT reply actions  

thanks for reading

I was in a little town called Jiuzhaigou in China during the draft — not an easy place to get draft news! I definitely would not bet against him. It’s just fascinating the lightning rod he has become. And why? Because he is an outspoken born-again? because he played at Florida? Because of the awards? Or because he has been analyzed to a fault since his freshman year? It is a curious alchemy. He has impressed me and I have high hopes for him.

by Sacto Bronco on May 26, 2010 9:17 PM MDT up reply actions  

Opportunity Costs

Opportunity CostThe cost of an opportunity forgone (and the loss of the benefits that could be received from that opportunity)

I enjoyed your post but I have a different view on contract negotiations. Here’s my take…

The reason so many teams languish in mediocrity is how they choose to spend their money under the salary cap. Teams will go out and pay big contracts for their key players. This would be all well and good if it weren’t for human nature and injuries.

Human Nature: How many times have we seen a player get the big contract and then watch their performance fade as they got fat, dumb, and happy? (Can you say ‘JaMarcus Russell’?) For far too many players they loose a bit of drive once they score the big contract with the guaranteed money. Result: Team is spending more money for less production. Past performance is no guarantee of future returns, says the fine print.

Injuries: They are a fact of life in the NFL and when a player goes down with an injury, they still get their guaranteed money and it counts against the salary cap. I’m of the belief that Shanahan learned this lesson with Terrell Davis. Terrell got injured with several years left on his contract and was never the same player again. His contract still counted against the salary cap and the team had to spend additional money to replace him as well. After Terrell, Shanahan was much more cautious with running back contracts.

“So what, it’s the owner’s money. Right?”

The problem is that, due to the salary cap, there is a limited amount of money to spend on players. If your policy is to pay big in order to lock in a lot of key players, then there is less money available to sign the rest of the team. Less pay means, generally, lower-quality players. So as the season drags on and the starters start to get injured, there is bigger drop off in talent for the backups.

At that point you’ll see these teams start the season hot only to fade in the final weeks of season as the inevitable injuries hit. Sound familiar?

What I’m seeing with McX is the desire to increase the quality of the backups so there isn’t as big of drop in team performance when a starter goes down. That is why I believe that biggest reason Brandon Marshall is no longer with the Broncos is the $47 million contract that we would have had to match or beat. By not grabbing the Marshall, the team gained $47 million to spend on (many) other players PLUS gained two draft picks to boot. There was an opportunity cost to signing Marshall and the Broncos determined that it was a price far too high.

As for Dumerville, a deal will be done and it doesn’t hurt the team if a little extra time is taken to do the contract carefully. Personally I’m glad to see this level of care with contracts.

by Alan_Smithee on May 26, 2010 9:39 AM MDT reply actions   1 recs

Alan, thanks for your post

But my issue is we seem to throw money around on FAs, yet our key contributors (who have been playing the good employee and being team-first and all that) seem to dangle while the FO decides on what to do with them. Agreed, there are limited dollars — but why then spend them on unknown commodities? At your place of work, if your company spent money to bring in employees yet performed a wait-and-see approach with you who had busted your butt during the year, how would you react?

by Sacto Bronco on May 26, 2010 9:21 PM MDT up reply actions  

Welcome to MHR sacto...

I believe they will sign Dumervil, but with all of the uncertainty of CBA things might not move as fast as we think it should. Moving Mario Haggan over to the ILBer slot and acquiring Baraka Atkins and Jammie Kirlew will give that added competition in TC for bragging rights and see exactly where Doom fits in all of this. I’m not sure that Elvis will even be a Bronco after 2010 and would you give him a huge contract Atkins or Kirlew suddenly out perform him? That’s something the brain trust has probably milled over and studied, the possibilities. I’m not worried about Ayres’ side as I think he is developing along just fine, there are questions in my mind as well as I think are in McDX’s mind of how Doom is going workout in the fray. They may sign him this week and all of this will be for not, but there are questions concerning his performance in the coverage and run stopping game. Some of those questions may be answered with the acquistion of the 3 defensive linemen (Bannan, Green and J Williams), but we don’t know. One thing I have learned is, don’t fall head over heels for these guys, they can be gone tomorrow and we are left with WTF and a ill since of let down by the very team we love and root for every Sunday.

by bfree2bronc on May 26, 2010 10:48 AM MDT reply actions  

thanks BF2B!

I think the opportunity is now to sign Dumervil to a reasonable contract before the open market determines his value to be above what we can pay. If we were unsure of the fit, we should have moved him when his value was the highest (this offseason). But the team has made his value clear, tendered him, and touted him this offseason. I think they wil resign him.

I will say if the team values a 7th rounder and undrafted free agents (and even older veteran FAs) over the NFL high sack leader of last year, we are going to be in serious trouble.

by Sacto Bronco on May 26, 2010 9:45 PM MDT up reply actions  

good thoughts

i agree with the comments that we are in a sorting-out phase, and not really looking to lock up too many players until they are proven on this team, FINAL YEAR aside. that being said, sign doom now. he’s had 3 years to show his stuff, 1 in this system. 3rd in sacks, i believe, in that span. pass-rush specialist only? you don’t know doom, he will improve where needed, unlike scheff. regardless, he is worth top money(freeney). additionally, i have never seen someone held/tackled/raped as much as he was the past 3 seasons, and not getting a call. he is truly elite getting to the qb.

tebow, i was pleasantly surprised, as this was not a prototype mcd qb acquisition, and we just got quinn, whom he supposedly coveted. i thought he would grab someone else a little later on, though. i applaud the choice, as i believe, and mcd apparently did, that the qb to take us to the promised land wasn’t on the roster. this is all about upside and the possibilities that tim can give a team. josh stated that ideally the best player on the team, and leader of, would be at the qb position. this move makes that a possibility. worst case scenario, to me, is all he does is convert first downs/touchdowns and generally abuse whoever is assigned to stop him, wherever. he will be put to use, trust me, and earn his keep.

J-E-T-S. please, i’ll believe it when i see it. i live in new jersey, and they’re going to the super bowl EVERY year. before the games begin. they’re entertaining, and good usually, but classic chokers. i saw a bronco game here, where they led all the way. every bad play, you would here something to the tune of “here’s where we blow it!”. well, they won at the end, when they opened the famous GATES and elam’s 40-yarder fell straight to the ground at about the 5-yard line. but this franchise is always waiting for the inevitable downfall, though-and-through. your right, though, they are going for it this season for a number of reasons, and i don’t think it’s going to work with these new guys. take ‘em off the sb list. and denver-area guys, please treat the jets fans like dirt when they come to the stadium this season, as they do here to everyone. i’m sure they’ll make it easy for you.

i think campbell is a major upgrade(who isn’t) over russell, who was pathetic. they did have a good draft(more cable, less davis), but still have too many flashy players that can’t get it together. i still see them as sub-.500 the first season for the campbell and the rooks. now, the chiefs, i am really getting worried about. they have added management, staff, and players that i really like. we may be butting heads with them in 2011 and beyond for the division, 2 pats-inspired franchise, with k.c. really being patriots-west, not us.

taste my blitzkrieg!
sign doom now

by davecheffy on May 26, 2010 10:49 AM MDT reply actions  

Thanks for sharing your thoughts Sacto.

Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks

by KaptainKirk on May 26, 2010 4:14 PM MDT reply actions  

Very much enjoyed the post Sacto Bronco

Elvis deserves a new deal and will get his new deal, IMO. But I see nothing slow about this. You can’t deal with him before the draft, beacuse you’re dealing with the draft. Right now is perfect time to begin the process, but it could easily be a slow process with Xanders working to sign a bunch of rookies. Dumervil knows that. We’re not getting bad press for it, and we won’t so long as a deal is legitimately being worked on. These things take time, and I think it’s too early to worry that our front office is being “slow”. And comparing our FO to, or worrying they might start to resemble the Patriots seems premature at best. The only comparison here, IMO, is that Josh McDaniels used to work for the Patriots.

Things are going fine and on schedule. If anything, the story here isn’t Dumervil’s contract talks, but rather the absence of talks on an extension for Champ. A deal there could go a long way toward showing “you take care of us, we’ll take care of you”. But again, even that seems premature to me. Champ wants to make sure we’re a contender before resigning, IMO, and we’re busy signing rookies and preparing for the season.

My opinion is this. If you ever have a chance to draft a franchise quarterback, you do it. No questions asked.

Very well said and agreed.

Jason Campbell and the Raiders: Again, agreed. J-Russ was a bust, but he had a cannon. That isn’t the kind of offense and defense that can win with a “safe” Campbell under center.

Jets: Relaxed OTA’s and TC, big-mouthed coach, selfish and arrogant high-profile players = Most likely to implode NFL Team in the league.

November, gentlemen. We go again to their house and we make it OUR MF house!! We take our Crown from those punks, not from around those punks! We take it in November and we protect it in January. Two wins. That's it. Take it!!!

by Alex on May 26, 2010 11:07 PM MDT reply actions  

Shanahan will have success

I am curious about this too. I find it hard not to root for him being that I have been rooting for him since I was in middleschool. He has the looks of a decent roster.

by agentj007 on May 27, 2010 10:54 AM MDT reply actions  

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