Mr. Bowlen, It Is Time

I don’t understand the 30% rule but it seems to causing some issues.
I don’t know how it impacts doom for example?

I know the 49ers have had to do some serious “working” on the edges of the CBA language to get Willis his money.

You could also argue willis is a more complete player than doom is over the full range of the game.

Controversially I’d also argue that DJ, Champ, Andre and to a certain degree Dawk are all over paid as are just about all rookies from the 1st half of the 1st round.

Doom should get some big $$‘s but i can’t find any logical argument to say he should get more than say 7 million a season.

In fact i can’t really argue that any of the players should get more than that.

I am a huge advocate of a Rookie Salary Cap to be included in the new CBA…Un-proven rookies making huge sums of money (many of which never end up making an impact on the game) have seriously restricted the owners from being able to properly reward proven and successful young vetrans…

I agree with your post and I am hopeful that Mr. B will get Doom his contract soon but the looming issues involving the CBA, and specificly it’s effect on Mr. B and the Broncos from a business perspective, may prevent immediate resolution.

Another good post BTID…Rec’d

That probably includes the Broncos, sadly. Doom will get a nice paycheck, but it may not be until the new CBA is signed.

I haven’t felt that way since JC threw his epic and extended fit.

I agree, though, on one point. Elvis Dumervile excudes the characteristics McD preaches— great motor, productive, team guy, on field leader (by example, at the very least) and presumably a great locker room presence. I figured he’d get his extension by now. But at the same time, Willis is the exception rather than the rule in this labor environment, and I think the delay on Doom is purely business.

Plus, doesn’t his tender put him at right around 8 on the list? Not good enough for his production in a normal year, but this isn’t a normal year.

not signing doom to a new current-structure deal is risky, at best. he is the only player not to sign his tender, and has not been in dove valley. mcd says he is ok with that, but i’m not sure that doom is, or will sign his tender soon. if he has to play at his tender, i think he may be gone next season when he can walk(currently). we could franchise him, but then he’s getting paid top $, so what’s the point? don’t know what the holdup is, but i’m actually concerned. i don’t believe he’s getting his deal this season, are there even any talks going on? he may be expected to sign and play, or sit. that would not be a wise stance to take. let’s hope something gets done now that the draft is over.

as far as the top 5, i only have a problem with d.j. at his salary. i like the player, he’s been moved around, but i think we could do better. i just don’t consider him an elite ilb. just me, maybe. champ can stay as long as he likes, in my opinion. i do not agree with the popular “trade champ now” view in the least, value be damned. special player, even now. dawkins and goodman made more than i thought, but both played very well last season, and i’m glad to have them. i just would hope goodman tackles better. there sure is a lot of youth in the secondary now to push all of them, and eventually they all will be replaced. they’re really going to have to earn it with this group, though.

overachieving young players will always be underpaid, and proven veterans overpaid, no matter the cba. i don’t know how you legislate that with multi-year contracts, but a rookie cap is definitely in order. the top 10 picks alone are ridiculously overpaid before they even hit the field. willis’ contract calls for 2 signing bonuses. this needs to be addressed in the new cba also, as cash contracts can’t be the answer to franchises that are supposedly not making enough money. either way, i just can’t imagine no football in 2011, so something will get done, sometime. right?

Considering there will likely be a cap in the future, of roughly $115M to $125M (unknown until a new CBA is in place), the team is currently operating at $101,658,735 total. This says to me, wait until you see what free agency brings, then worry about renegotiating contracts. From a business perspective, why would you pay more for something than you have to?

(I also can’t remember how much remains in dead weight payments to players who we still pay to not play for us… like Tatum Bell and Travis Henry for example).

But personally, I agree with the idea that signing Doom to a new deal would send the right message, as long as everyone doesn’t want a new deal as well…

I may be way off, but Doom seems to be a one-dimensional player for now. A very good one, but I am not sure the FO is willing to pay him top $. I say give him around $7-8m/yr.

if he was such a great game changing prospect why did no other team make any attempt to sign him. Sure it would have been a first and a third, but a guy who racks up 17 sacks is worth it right? If that was the case why did it not happen?

Actual salary is an irrelevant number. Contracts have so many bonus and incentive clauses the the actual salary players make is an almost mythical number.

Dooms 1st+3rd tender equates to a little of $2.5 million per year. Probably less than he would like, but not unreasonable.

if you want to assuage the effect of looking at the top salaries. Also, it should be noted that no salary data we have is 100% accurate, since it isn’t ever “officially” released. But it is usually close enough, I’m just pointing out that you wnat to double and triple check your sources.

In the examples of the top 5 up above, they all make considerably less in 2010 then the figures you have up there.

Overall though, I like the point of the post. If Orton plays well, we may be in a pickle deciding who to use the Franchise tag on…

I’m in agreement. If Elvis keeps up his pace he is going to get VERy expensive. Correct me if I’m wrong, but after quarterbacks and the left tackles that protect them, aren’t pass-rushing ends the 3rd highest-paid players in the league?

Ok, maybe not average-wise, since there are a ton of non-stars, but the elite pass-rushing ends get some of the HUGEST contracts… Elvis is… turning elite on us, and I like it.

Word! Pay Elvis and Eddie. Now!

Alphonzo smith was supposed to make more than BM?? Fail.

Doom for life as a Bronco – all that needs to be said.

With this whole “team first” mentality that is being installed, do the Broncos now expect players to take less money? I don’t remember hearing much about big money contracts being signed in New England, except maybe “the great” Tom Brady, but didn’t he even opt to take less money in his last contract? Would it set a bad precedent in Denver if we start throwing big money contracts around just because the rest of the league does?

MSM shows their lack of teeth…can’t even come up with their own material.

Nothing new I guess.

but I do believe that Doom’s stats were inflated a bit last year by playing against Jamarcus Russel. What was it, 4 sacks in one game? Doom is a great player who I want to have on our team for a long time, but if he hadn’t played against J Russ, he might not have been the NFL sack leader last year.