Denver's Pass Rush Gettting a Boost From Indiana Product Jammie Kirlew
Late on day three of the 2010 NFL Draft, the Denver Broncos traded a 2011 fifth round pick for two picks in the seventh round from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. With the first pick, they took advantage of one high profile prospect's relatively large fall when they selected Cal cornerback Syd'Quan Thompson.
With the 232nd pick in the draft, the other pick the Broncos had acquired from Tampa Bay, Denver took Indiana defensive end Jammie Kirlew, a player who was very productive in college but took a slide on draft boards due to lack of ideal measurables.
The Broncos may have gotten themselves a nice steal in the seventh round.
In 2009, the Broncos ranked 10th in the NFL with 39 sacks. Outside Linebacker Elvis Dumervilled the team and the NFL with 17, and nearly half of the rest of Denver's quarterback takedowns came from Vonnie Holliday and Darrell Reid, who combined for nine sacks.
Though Denver was in the top ten in this particular category, the dropoff in production over the course of the year was quite noticeable, and addressing the pass rush is something many fans felt needed to be done prior to the 2010 campaign.
The Broncos didn't place quite the amount of emphasis on the hybrid linebacker spot as many would have liked, but as the old cliche' goes, quality always defeats quantity. While on the surface, a seventh round pick may not reek of great quality, Kirlew could turn out to be the exception to the trend.
Though not exactly identical, the scouting reports on Kirlew and Dumervil have some striking resemblances.
Obviously, the first thing that stands out about Elvis Dumervil is the fact that he has been such a productive player at every level of football despite his lack of ideal or even average size. At 5'11" 250 pounds, Dumervil's slip to the fourth round was not something that came out of left field.
His production in college would have suggested otherwise.
Kirlew has a similar uphill battle in terms of a lack of ideal size, but he has a two inch height advangate on Dumervil, as well as an extra ten pounds. Though one could make an argument that smaller defensive end hybrids should be shorter and more compact in size like Pittsburgh's James Harrison, the general thought is that players around 6'3" 260 pounds are around the ideal size for the position.
Quite possibly the biggest asset to Dumervil's arsenal, the sack king's 6'6" wingspan prevents him from being completely engulfed by larger defenders. Dumervil has never really had trouble in his career disengaging from blocks, nor has he ever had much trouble with gaining leverage. His long arms have also been a huge factor in stripping the ball from quarterbacks, an art he has mastered.
Kirlew has similarly long 32.5 inch arms, which will prove to be a very big part of his overall game. Despite his lack of great speed, the former Indiana star will have to use his initial quickness and long arms to gain leverage against bigger offensive tackles. It also helps defenders get sack-fumbles, which is quickly becoming one of the more common ways of turning the ball over in the NFL.
I suppose the crux of the argument here is simply that Kirlew and Dumervil have both had to overcome similar obstacles in order to find success at the NFL. Whether or not Kirlew can effectively transition remains to be seen, but he has a good veteran in front of him to learn from and observe.
One really intriguing factor for Kirlew is the fact that every scouting report of his out there indicates that he, like Dumervil, is an extremely high character, hard working player. Now, that doesn't always translate to success in the National Football League, but it can't hurt a guy. NFL Draft Scout had this much to say about the intangibles of Denver's new pass rusher:
Team captain. High effort and character player who is a leader in the locker room and the community. Named to the AFCA Good Works team and nominated for the Lowes Senior CLASS Award and the Wooden Cup, awarded to a college and professional athlete making the greatest positive influence on the lives of others.
In addition to being a good soul, Kirlew also has some serious talent on the gridiron. In his last two seasons at Indiana, he has been named the team's Most Valuable Player and has racked up 136 tackles, 35 tackles for loss, 16 sacks, and nine forced fumbles over the course of his career.
Here is another bit that caught my eye from NFL Draft Scout's report on Kirlew:
Although Kirlew isn't the biggest, fastest or most fluid defensive player in this draft, his motor and excellent character will endear him to scouts looking for a Robert Mathis-type pass rushing end for their team.
The comparison to Robert Mathis is quite encouraging. The Indianapolis Coltshave had very nice pressure off the edge from the likes of Mathis and Freeney, both of whom are relatively undersized defensive ends, and both of whom are able to force fumbles on a relatively consistent basis.
While Kirlew's speed is nothing to write home about (5.03 40 yard dash at Indiana pro day) his upper body strength (29 bench press reps at pro day) and quickness off the ball are other attributes that scouts rave about. Dumervil also happened to bench press 225 pounds 29 times but was quite a bit faster in the 40 yard dash, running reported times of 4.78 and 4.68 in offseason workouts.
Denver's ninth and final draft pick in 2010 certainly has an uphill battle to NFL stardom, and may never develop into an every down outside linebacker at this level of ball, but he provides the Broncos with a very underrated option off the edge. Even with a lack of ideal size and speed, his non-stop motor and quickness off the ball could prove to be a very nice addition for the pass rush needy Broncos.
With Darrell Reid's status in question, Kirlew could be forced into the rotation sooner rather than later.
Here is a full scouting repot on Kirlew from NFL Draft Scout:
Playing in the shadow of teammate Greg Middleton, Kirlew (whose first name pronounced JAY-me) has put together an excellent career in Bloomington through hard work and determination. In fact, in both 2008 and 2009 he was named the Hoosiers' team Most Valuable Player.
Kirlew's production over the past two seasons has also put him in the conversation for the Ted Hendrick Award. He made 74 tackles, 19.5 for loss and 10.5 sacks as a junior and 62, 15.5, 6.5 in 2009 -- he also forced five fumbles, recovering three this fall. He was no wallflower early in his career, either, making five TFLs as a redshirt freshman and 57-14.5-5 as a first-year starter in 2007.
Although Kirlew isn't the biggest, fastest or most fluid defensive player in this draft, his motor and excellent character will endear him to scouts looking for a Robert Mathis-type pass rushing end for their team.
Pass rush: Gives consistent effort during the play and throughout the game, attacking the quarterback until he releases the ball. Can beat tackles with power or speed; gets under their pads to knock them off balance or under the outside shoulder to turn the corner. Inside/outside spin move is effective in pass rush and to get off blocks outside.
Run defense: Plays low and in an athletic position to break down in space and stand his ground against pulling linemen or blocking fullbacks. Not great change-of-direction skills and must improve his flexibility and quick-twitch movement to switch to linebacker. Needs to use violent hands more consistently to defeat running back cut blocks and disengage from tackles. Aware of his containment responsibilities on the edge, maintains outside leverage to force play to the linebackers.
Explosion: Gets out of his stance and upfield quickly in passing situations. Has some pop getting into his man's chest when playing the run, but isn't big enough to knock him back.
Strength: Strong, well-built upper body with the ability to bull rush and also the hands to shed on the outside using leverage against taller tackles. Also strong in the lower half but still lacks bulk; can be handled easily in space by linemen and blown off the line by tackle-tight end combos.
Tackling: Explosive tackler who brings it hard every play. Good burst to the ball and has length and strength to wrap up ballcarriers and quarterbacks in the backfield. Will miss tackles in space with average change of direction ability. Active inside and hustles downfield to either sideline to make plays. Not an efficient running motion; arms far away from his side as he goes to the ball.
Intangibles: Team captain. High effort and character player who is a leader in the locker room and the community. Named to the AFCA Good Works team and nominated for the Lowes Senior CLASS Award and the Wooden Cup, awarded to a college and professional athlete making the greatest positive influence on the lives of others.
Graduated with degrees in SPEA management and public financial management in December 2009. The two-time All-Big Ten selection and two-time team MVP closed out his career tied for third on the Hoosiers' career sacks list with 23 and second on the career tackles for lost list with 52.5. Kirlew played in 48 career games with 41 starts. He collected 220 tackles, 152 solo, with nine forced fumbles and six fumble recoveries.
Voted second team All-Big Ten by the conference coaches and media … named Indiana's Big Ten Sportsmanship Award honoree … named to the 11-player Allstate AFCA Good Works Team … one of 10 finalists for the ARA Sportsmanship Award, a semifinalist for the Coach Wooden Citizenship Cup, a semifinalist for the William V. Campbell Trophy and a candidate for the Lowe's Senior CLASS Award … named to the Ted Hendricks Defensive End of the Year Award, the Chuck Bednarik Award and the Rotary Lombardi Award Watch Lists … second team All-Big Ten selection Received honorable mention All-Big Ten from the league's coaches and media … also a third team All-Big Ten selection by Phil Steele's magazine … collected the team's Anthony Thompson MVP Award for the second straight season … Academic All-Big Ten selection.
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Nice!
He seems like a good kid with interesting potential, so I hope he gets a fair shake to earn a roster spot or at least a place on the practice squad.
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I think he’s got a better than good chance of sticking on the final roster, if for no other reason our depth at OLB is thin. He should be given a good chance to contribute this season.
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by Sayre Bedinger on May 7, 2010 6:23 PM MDT up reply actions
Comparisons to Dumervil and Mathis....
That is some good company. Great post, Sayre.
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Good company indeed
Thanks KB!
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by Sayre Bedinger on May 7, 2010 6:23 PM MDT up reply actions
Good post - rec'd!
After he had such slow times in the Combine, Kirlew commented to the effect that football isn’t a track meet and he’s had little trouble with speed on the field. From what I’ve read (I didn’t get a chance to see him play, sadly), he’s telling the truth. Do you recall that Brandon Spikes also ran at about those times? Despite that, he certainly seemed to get the job done. I won’t say that speed doesn’t matter in the NFL, but at his position, it’s limited. if he’s beating people with both speed and power, he’s likely to do just fine. Nice report.
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Thanks Sayre and great comments Doc....I like Kirlew and all his scouting reports are REALLY good considering he went in the 7th....even if he ends up a rotation player thats tremendous value!
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I agree on the comparison to Spikes. I should have made that notation in my post, but it slipped my mind for some reason. I think Jammie has a good chance of making a significant impact at this level as a pass rusher despite that lack of speed. As you said, he was definitely able to get the job done in college with it, and against some good, mean offensive linemen. I didn’t see him play a ton, but I did see games against Iowa and Northwestern, and I know for sure he and the Indiana defense caused Iowa some serious trouble early on.
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by Sayre Bedinger on May 7, 2010 6:30 PM MDT up reply actions
how important is speed really?
how often are lineman gonna run 40 yards :D
well...
let’s hope when they are blocking for Champ and Goody’s INT returns :)
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by Orange and Blue on May 7, 2010 6:29 PM MDT up reply actions
Good point! I wonder what his ten yard dash was :)
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by Sayre Bedinger on May 7, 2010 6:30 PM MDT up reply actions
this is old but...
…i see no issues with speed from this guy :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu2wuaKUhGs
Good point
One advantage of the 3-4 is that the speed of the LBs is somewhat less of a problem, due to the formations. That doesn’t mean that it doesn’t matter. It just means that a number of very good 3-4 backers weren’t exactly track and field material.
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Depth, depth, depth
I dont expect Kirlew to become Mathis, I just want him to be a 10 yr player for us who comes in every so often (or when injury hits) and not have things drop off. I love the character guys we are bringing in, they will never not be ready when their numbers are called.
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Agreed
I don’t know that he will necessarily become a star pass rusher, but I certainly think he’s capable of getting five to seven sacks on a given season when he develops as a situational rush guy, maybe more.
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by Sayre Bedinger on May 7, 2010 6:31 PM MDT up reply actions
that would be fantastic. esp for a 7th rd pick. BTW forgot to rec’d your post. rec’d! Thanks for your work.
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by Orange and Blue on May 7, 2010 6:33 PM MDT up reply actions
competition for Moss
It sounds as if this guy will push Moss for a roster spot.
Could very well be
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by Sayre Bedinger on May 7, 2010 6:32 PM MDT up reply actions
ah-chew!
he could probably sneeze Moss off the roster IMO – from the sound of Jammie’s character.
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by Orange and Blue on May 7, 2010 6:34 PM MDT up reply actions
I agree
Jarvis is in a losing battle.
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Sayre..Kirlew seems like a nice pick..but why in the 7th
McX traded 2011 5th for two 2010 7th’s to take him. He doess have upside but also must climb that upside. You are right out the depth at OLB. Doom, Ayers then nobdy. Oh there is Reid but an ACL will slow him. And do we still think Moss, who quit once, is an option. Questionable why he is still here. After that you have all CFA’s. Like Alexander and Bosworth.
Oh I forgot Atkins.
You are right about Kirlew making his own path to a bu position.
Could he also have value on ST?
Solid open field tacklers on punt and KO coverage are valuable.
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Sayre - Nice job
Just maybe another Doom on our hands. Though both are shorter I think it forces the OLinemen to a position were they might tire easily over the course of the entire game, me thinkin.
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Comment about "wingspan" and "arm length"
The article says that Dumervil’s wingspan is 6’6", and then says “Kirlew has similarly long 32.5 inch arms.” Since 6’6" equals 78", and dividing that by two equals 39", then we’re obviously comparing apples to oranges here.
Wouldn’t it have been better to either convert Dumervil’s wingspan to “arm length in inches” or Kirlew’s arm length to “wingspan in feet and inches” since the point is that these two players have arms of similar length…and because there is no easy way to see how the present numbers fit this contention?
You'd have to factor in the width of Kirlew's chest.
Wingspan measures fingertip to fingertip. Arm length only takes into account the length of the arm.
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Something doesn't compute...
…cptmorni contributed 32" for Dumervil’s arm length from CBS. That times two equals 64 inches. Subtract that from 78 inches and it leaves Dumervil’s chest (roughly armpit to armpit, in a flat plane from front or back, without any curvature) as only 14" wide? Doubtful, IMO. Look, I’m 5’10" and weigh 240, and my chest width is at least 16" measured in a flat plane like that. Dumervil, from what I can see, is much broader in the chest than me, so something else needs to be figured here.
I'm no Men's Warehouse worker, but don't they measure from your armpit to your fingertips?
So, when accounting for the extra few inches we are referring to, it’s not so much a measure of the front of your chest as it is a measure of the diameter of your torso from one armpit to the other. For a person with relatively low body fat, the arm pit is exactly that, a pit. That probably accounts for the difference in your measurement across your chest and the measurement we are describing which is from the armpits.
Also, when they are doing the measurement of wingspan, from fingertip to fingertip, it is done by measuring across the shoulders, with the arms held out wide. So, you’d have to add a bit of error for the bulges of the muscles as the tape measure arches over top of them. That adds a slight overestimation. Combining that with the underestimation that we discussed in the first paragraph and you could probably account for those extra few inches.
It’s difficult to measure all of these things, and they do the best they can, but there is no such thing as an error free measurement.
I’m curious to see how many people actually leave this conversation and go searching for a measuring tape. hahaha
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by Troy Hufford on May 8, 2010 11:53 AM MDT up reply actions
This is purely academic now...
…the original poster has already conveyed his sorrow for thinking he “included that Dumervil had 32 inch arms” when he had not included it.
That's what I was going to say as well wingspan includes the chest area meaning Dumervils Arms are not 39" long
Their arm lengths are probably very similar which is exciting after watching how Doom gets separation!
Actually CBS sports has Dumervil listed with 32" arm length meaning Kirlew is 1/2 an inch longer then Doom
Considering Kirlew is 2 inches taller
To have the same build as Doom, his arms would have to be about 1 inch longer each. Anyway, it looks like Kirlew has longer wingspan by about an inch, but he has less of abnormal “bird” build with arms much longer then height.
Sorry
I thought I included that Dumervil had 32 inch arms.
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by Sayre Bedinger on May 8, 2010 8:54 AM MDT up reply actions
Nice!
I liked this article! I am ready for the season to start already! :)
Thanks for the info!
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by football_nikki on May 8, 2010 9:33 AM MDT reply actions
Sounds like he will be a solid addition and keep the depth of this team strong.
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Watch the tape!
He plays much faster than his timed speed. In fact slow speed and flexibility are his only downfalls. With some proper coaching and focus on those items he could be a real find!!
Diamond in the rough potential....I'd say it's worth the risk!
And trading next year’s pick isn’t too concerning, since McX have certainly shown the ability to trade and acquire picks as needed.
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Interesting analysis
But who is he going to have to beat out to make the team or even the PS? If you think he has a chance, and he may, how do you rank him against the other LB/DE hopefuls and how many will the Broncos carry?
For example
I just saw an article on Bleacher Report that has Kirlew slotted to compete with Jarvis Moss as back up to Dumervil at weakside OLB. That actually improves his chances of making the team and probably playing on special teams.

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