Factors of Roster Turnover
In my last post, Overly Premature Predictions! I tried to predict what the starting lineup could look like in 2014. If you read this, you can tell that I'm a huge optimist when it comes to how our players progress, and many of you thought I had a few too many players sticking around this long. The majority is likely right, and we'll see in four years.
But this made think that there are so many factors to roster turnover, some of which can be intertwined, and I'd like to take a look at these and how they have affected the Broncos after the jump.
Age
Everybody gets older, there's no way around that. In the NFL, the definition of "old" is much different than in normal life, as players are often considered old in their 30s, while a few kickers, punters, and quarterbacks stick around into their 40s, and those that do have to be good at what they do. When age is a factor in roster turnover, it can come in a few different forms. The obvious one is retirement, while many times an older player will be released because they aren't as good as they used to be, and a younger player with more potential for the future can perform the same role the older player would fill.
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A recent example of how age has affected roster turnover is John Lynch. He was a great safety for the Broncos after he was released by the Buccaneers, and was a four time Pro Bowler while he was here. He was granted his release in July 2008 because he wasn't going to get as much playing time as he would have liked due to declining production with age. He signed with the Patriots, but didn't make their final roster and retired later that year. He is now a commentator for Fox.
Bad Fit
This can encompass a number of things, and is often the case when a new coach is brought in. A player can be a bad fit in a new scheme the coach is trying to implement, or maybe their attitude doesn't fit with the mentality that the team is trying to build. The player could be traded or released, depending on how good of a player they are.
Jay Cutler was traded to the Chicago Bears in April 2009 after a month-long quarrel with new Broncos coach Josh McDaniels after hearing that McDaniels had considered trading him to acquire former Patriots and current Chiefs quarterback Matt Cassel. He was traded after it became apparent he wouldn't fit into the team-first mentality McDaniels wanted to install after he wouldn't answer calls from owner Pat Bowlen. Cutler and a draft pick which turned into Johnny Knox were traded for Kyle Orton and draft picks that helped acquire Robert Ayers, Richard Quinn/Seth Olsen, Demaryius Thomas, Tim Tebow, and Eric Decker. (Thanks to ocbroncomaniac and Colinski for the info.) Cutler led the NFL in interceptions in 2009.
Contract Expiration
This is pretty self-explanatory, but can happen to different types of players. Possibly the most common is the serviceable backup that is good enough to make the team each year, but who isn't irreplaceable. Also common are veteran "patches" that are signed to short-term contracts in the wake of an injury or a player not progressing as expected. This will also happen with players that would be too expensive to keep, or players that are getting older.
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When longtime kicker Jason Elam's contract with the Broncos expired after the 2007 season, he did not resign because the Broncos weren't offering what he wanted, and he signed with his hometown Atlanta Falcons. In 2008, he had a really good year, while his replacement in Denver, Matt Prater, was inconsistent. In 2009, however, Elam struggled and was released in the middle of the season, while Matt Prater was having a great year for the Broncos. Elam signed a one-day contract with the Broncos in the offseason and called it a career.
Ineffectiveness
Some players just don't play at the level they are supposed to, be they a starter or backup, and these players are not often kept around in the same capacity, if at all. Being released due to ineffectiveness is often how the career of a backup player will end.
via media.rockymountainnews.com
In the wake of Darrent Williams' death, Mike Shanahan traded Tatum Bell, George Foster, and a fifth-round draft pick which later became Johnny Baldwin to the Lions for cornerback Dre Bly and a sixth rounder which was later traded to the Vikings (who used it on Rufus Alexander). Bly spent two seasons in Denver, and he was released after Josh McDaniels was hired. He is currently a free agent after spending a year with the 49ers.
Injury
Since football is a contact sport, players get hurt, and some injuries are too hard to comeback from and play football. With older players, injuries often just stack up and their body can't take as much anymore, which is why you often hear about the poor health of retired football players.
via nflbook.files.wordpress.com
After being name Super Bowl XXXII MVP and then NFL MVP, Terrell Davis was plagued by injuries for the rest of his career, notably when he tore the ACL and MCL of his right knee in 1999 while trying to make a tackle after a Brian Griese interception. He retired in the 2002 preseason, and has had trouble getting voted into the Hall of Fame in recent years.
Trade
When a player is traded, it is usually because the team is trying to acquire help and they are willing to get rid of the player to do so, another team wants the player and is offering enough for the team to be willing to trade the player, the team is looking to get rid of a player and want to get what they can for them, or some combination of those factors.
via broncotalk.net
In September 2008, the Broncos traded Domonique Foxworth to the Falcons for a conditional seventh round pick, which would have become a sixth rounder had he resigned with the Falcons. The pick was later traded to the Lions, and Foxworth signed a four year, $28 million deal with the Ravens with $16.5 million guaranteed, and he is currently one of their starting cornerbacks.
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great post homie!
:)
daaayuuuuum! you gonna take that KB?!? lol -Broncs55
Absolutely not. KB is a function of aggression and rage, the derivative of which can be traced back to my childhood.-KentuckyBronco
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Rec'd... although I think you messed up the "Bad Fit" section
I thought that “Bad Fit” was the reason Jamarcus Russell can’t wear regular pants. Sweat pants are the cure for that, by the way.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
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by Troy Hufford on Jun 21, 2010 12:29 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
lol
one size fits all huh KB?!?
daaayuuuuum! you gonna take that KB?!? lol -Broncs55
Absolutely not. KB is a function of aggression and rage, the derivative of which can be traced back to my childhood.-KentuckyBronco
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although I think JaMarcus Russell wears a size "TenT"
daaayuuuuum! you gonna take that KB?!? lol -Broncs55
Absolutely not. KB is a function of aggression and rage, the derivative of which can be traced back to my childhood.-KentuckyBronco
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Haha
You got me there!
"Mr. President, call in the National Guard! Send as many men as you can spare! Because we are killing the Patriots! They need emergency help!" - Shannon Sharpe
Interesting read,
thanks for the post.
"I cannot give you a formula for success, but I can give you the formula for failure: Try to please everybody."
great post
Tebow + Moreno = #1 rushing attack
by Pmoreno95 on Jun 21, 2010 5:13 PM MDT via mobile reply actions
Very well written
Broncoman27, you have hit the nail on the head with your post. Pro football is a business, and the rules say you can only have 53 on your roster, the business says you gotta make money to stay in business, and to make money you gotta put on a good product.
Let’s hope for a fair CBA for 2011 and beyond, with a realistic rookie cap and some dough for retired players who gave it up for us, the fans.
GO BRONCOS!
Jeff Zepp, Kittredge CO USA
by Rzeppa on Jun 21, 2010 10:56 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
trade terms
Cutler and a draft pick which turned into Johnny Knox were traded for Kyle Orton and draft picks that helped acquire Robert Ayers, Richard Quinn/David Bruton, Demaryius Thomas, Tim Tebow, and Eric Decker. (Thanks to ocbroncomaniac for posting that.) Cutler led the NFL in interceptions in 2009.
http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d80ff4515&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true
Steelers receive:
" 2009 third-round pick (No. 79):
OT Kraig Urbik
" 2009 third-round pick (No. 84):
WR Mike Wallace
Broncos receive:
" 2009 second-round pick (No. 64): TE Richard Quinn
" 2009 fourth-round pick (No. 132):
G Seth Olsen
Analysis: The Broncos, with five picks and two trades, were one of the most active teams on Day 1. They ended it with this trade to the Steelers in which they picked Quinn, a blocking tight end. It could mean Denver is looking to shop Tony Scheffler, who was critical of the Jay Cutler trade.
We packaged one of Chicago’s picks (a 3rd) along with our 3rd to get R. Quinn & S. Olsen (a 2nd and 4th round selection), so we received somewhat less than Quinn and somewhat more than Olsen, besides the other considerations. It’s correct except that it identifies Bruton — our other 4th rounder — instead of Olsen as part of the Cutler trade.
no goats, no glory.
also re; Tebow terms
I was only pointing the value of the part of the Culter trade that yielded Quinn/ Olsen. The #114 we gave to Baltimore was our own.
The net is that we added our own pick to the package, 3rd/ #70 (Ed Dickson, TE), and we also added part of the Marshall trade (#43) to get Tebow. Part of the trade for the Tebow pick, the #70 pick, came out of trading down from the #11 we received from Chicago for Cutler.
no goats, no glory.
source for terms
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/13249119
Just to clarify: #70 came out of the Cutler trade. #114 was our own. #43 was from Miami as part of the Marshall deal.
no goats, no glory.
Thanks for pointing that out
I just went and replaced Bruton with Olsen in there.
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Damn Brian Griese!
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