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An Underrated Character Trait

As training camp starts we begin to see players who will succeed and players who will fail. Some will fail quickly and obviously not have the package to play in the NFL, at least for the Broncos. Others will be in those final cuts that are so heart wrenching to a player's dreams since very few will be picked up by another team. For all those who succeed there is one character trait that I think is underestimated and even under-appreciated.

 

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When we think of attributes we want in our players we think of physical talents like speed, quickness, strength, burst, jumping ability and so on. To get to this level one has to be an elite athlete with innate gifts.  It takes hard work to hone those physical skills and make the most of what nature has given you.

We also want character traits such as leadership skills, toughness, high pain threshold, and fearlessness.

We want intelligence that works on the football field - not necessarily book intelligence although that isn't a negative, but athletic intelligence is something quite different. The ability to see differently and anticipate; an uncanny insightfulness that unconsciously picks up subtle clues others don't see. Some players have an understanding of certain games that almost seems magical. Peyton Manning always sees the open receiver. Wayne Gretzky always knew where the puck was going to be.

However, there is one character trait that makes everything come together and work to make an elite athlete. I think that trait is discipline.

No matter how many talents you are given, if you cannot be disciplined in your practice and honing your skills, you will never achieve what was possible. When you are tired or even exhausted it is discipline that pulls you through. When you are seemingly lost and it looks like you are about to be defeated, it is discipline that allows you to keep on fighting. When there are unexpected early catastrophes, discipline allows you to remain in the present and overcome fear and hopelessness.

It's interesting that in a small way training camp resembles boot camp. There is an emphasis on building bonds between the team to rely on each other and surrender isolated individuality.  Working together as a team lets you win games and may keep you from getting killed in combat. There is a huge emphasis on discipline because when everything is falling apart and the plans have been totally trashed by circumstance, it is discipline which allows the best outcome to occur.

In one of the most curious statements about last year McDaniels commented on how his team didn't respond well to their first loss to the Ravens. After 6 wins they were brought back to reality by the punishing defeat. What doesn't make sense is that the team psyche seemed so fragile that this single loss threw them totally off their game and led to multiple losses and an absolutely disappointing 2-8 finish. How could a team react this way? Did they think going into the break that they were so good they would go undefeated? This can't be realistic. So why were they unprepared for a loss? Why weren't they resilient enough to rally for the next game and put this one behind them? I see this as a failure of discipline in many ways. I also fault both the coaching staff and the team leadership in allowing this team funk to be established. We'll never know if more games would have been won by correcting this team psychology, but even one more win would have placed us in the playoffs and given all of us a different feeling about the season.

I hope that this year this problem has been addressed by the coaching staff and leadership. I hope that discipline in all areas is emphasized in the players we keep and the type of team we become, for It is discipline that is a very underrated character trait .

Your humble fan,

Ponderosa


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I agree about the effect of the Baltimore game, but in the end, I also think McD’s climax in the NE game caused the season to unfold as it did – that was his Super Bowl… and it did show a lack of discipline.

However, think about how McD’s first 10 months started. Cutler-gate, move family to new city, answer questions about Cutler, set up office, player evaluation, retain/hire coaches, draft, answer questions about Cutler, implement his own system, OTAs, training camp, answer questions about Cutler, cuts, Marshall antics, final cuts, QB mentoring, winless preseason, answer questions about Cutler, win 4 games and then culminating in the NE win.

He spent all his emotional dollars in those first 10 months. I think he ran out of steam as much as the defense did starting with the Baltimore game – really, if it wasnt for Eddie in game 6 @ SD returning the kicks the losses could have started then.

But you’re right, sustained discipline will be a strong factor. And I think this year, McD will have it all season long and will lead by example.

"You are worthress, Arec Barrwin!" - Kim Jong II

by Orange and Blue on Jul 28, 2010 10:45 AM MDT reply actions   1 recs

I couldn't disagree about the NE game more

Not every coach needs to be stoic and emotionless. I don’t see that “moment” as any indicator he was spent or that it was his SB. He was excited. The team was excited for him. They were on top of the world. They felt vindicated. He felt vindicated. He showed it for a moment and then went back to work.

Thay went to San Diego and gave the Chargers one of their only three losses. Royal returned two balls sure, but the Bolts returned one also. We won the game. We took the bye week. Then, only then did the season fell apart…. After a loss… Not after a fist pump.

You call it his SB. But that game didn’t get Harris injured. It didn’t magically erase depth from the DL that we never had, and soon needed. It didn’t make Casey and Ben ineffective on the interior OL in the new scheme. It didn’t make Moreno run for 2.6 ypc over the last four games, and it didn’t make Kyle throw two TD’s to the wrong team in week-17.. And again, his “SB” in wek 5 didn’t even stop the wins from coming.

Lack of discipline? Sure. A sense of entitlement? Maybe. Poor mental focus and toughness? Sure. Does Coach share blame? Absolutely. But not because of an emotional moment after a win against his mentor in week-five. That’s crazy to me. No offense.

23-1. Determination. That which cannont be taught. The reult of finding yourself through adversity.

by Alex on Jul 28, 2010 1:13 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

none taken, Alex.

The actual reaction by McD is less the point than what it meant to him at the time.

As a head coach for the 1st in his professional life, he went through more than any first yr coach ever IMO. Other coaches inherent either bad teams (little expectations) or with some pieces in place (some expectations). McD stepped into the proverbial hornet’s nest when the Cutler thing happened and he still had to organize his team from “scratch” (horrible defense, new offense and new QB) with a team that had expectations. This cannot be emphasized enough IMO.

He reached his own mountain top after the NE win having endured the previous 9 months. I cannot comprehend how he could retain the necessary optimal focus following that. Remember, everyone told him he ruined his team’s chances of anything better than 5 wins. Yes, injuries contributed to the fall but I think the discipline (ie-focus) wavered from then on.

Again, IMO McD is going to be an excellent coach. With his experiences last yr, I see every reason to expect this team to improve radically in terms of focus and progression as the season wears on.

"You are worthress, Arec Barrwin!" - Kim Jong II

by Orange and Blue on Jul 28, 2010 3:51 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think I tend to agree more with Alex on this one.

The week break created a curious change in focus for the team that they never really recovered. I think last year’s experience will help the coaching staff when they are inevitably faced with adversity this year.

Imagination is more important than knowledge. A. Einstein

by Ponderosa on Jul 28, 2010 4:43 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

Nothing will motivate last year’s holdover’s more than to show them what happened last year. Most of them won’t even need reminded, because they’ll never forget, IMO.

23-1. Determination. That which cannont be taught. The reult of finding yourself through adversity.

by Alex on Jul 28, 2010 5:42 PM MDT up reply actions  

I think we do agree for the most part. Adversity was large as life last year when we started losing, and we never passed the test. We never recovered. And again, I pretty much agree with all of it, especially the lack of discipline and mental toughness. I only disagree that McDaniels was spent after week-five and that his emotional moment had anything at all to do with our dowward spiral. I think the guys love playing for him, and especially in moments like that.

23-1. Determination. That which cannont be taught. The reult of finding yourself through adversity.

by Alex on Jul 28, 2010 5:46 PM MDT up reply actions  

I accept your disagreement with mine b/c it makes sense as well. My theory is impossible prove until McD writes his book in 9.5 years called “How I won 9 straight Super Bowls” and recalls how exhausted he was after the NE game. That chapter will be called “My Biggest Regret” and it’ll describe how he partied for 48 staright hrs (okay maybe not the last part).

I’ll only add that I feel McD aged about 8 years (mentally) in 2009. Which I think is great for us.

"You are worthress, Arec Barrwin!" - Kim Jong II

by Orange and Blue on Jul 28, 2010 5:58 PM MDT up reply actions  

haha fair enough

I think we’ll know the answer (at least partially) when we see more emotional oubursts from the emotional coach. But I’m good either way, so long as we, “win a MF Game” :)

23-1. Determination. That which cannont be taught. The reult of finding yourself through adversity.

by Alex on Jul 28, 2010 6:31 PM MDT up reply actions  

I hope...

I see 19 emotional outbursts from him next season.

It would forever be known as the greatest MF season ever!

"You are worthress, Arec Barrwin!" - Kim Jong II

by Orange and Blue on Jul 28, 2010 8:45 PM MDT up reply actions  

Excellent article, rec'd!

In addition to all of these points that OaB brought up, all of which I agree with, I also think that there was a problem with the holdover players. I’ve never heard of a group of captains giving up on some players in the week leading up to the final game of the year. The locker room must have had some serious problems for that to happen – and those people are now, hopefully, gone. Hopefully, that will lead to a change of approach and determination.

Gnothi Seauton

by Doc Bear on Jul 28, 2010 10:55 AM MDT reply actions  

Agreed. We suspect the reason the team couldn't handle a loss was due to the character of the team.

This implies there were some players who were OK in the locker room as long as we were winning, but became problematic after the loss. I think those players aren’t Broncos any more.

Imagination is more important than knowledge. A. Einstein

by Ponderosa on Jul 28, 2010 4:41 PM MDT up reply actions  

Thanks, Ponderosa...

for an excellent, well thought out post. We’ll probably never know how this team folded after an incredible start, but I doubt it will happen again.

Rec’d.

'The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits.'
-- Albert Einstein

by hairybear on Jul 28, 2010 11:05 AM MDT reply actions  

also

I think a huge part of it was that they players were given the entire week off for the bye week. I sincerely hope they don’t have the week off this season.

by tunesmith on Jul 28, 2010 12:11 PM MDT reply actions  

Great read, Ponderosa

Very much agreed and thanks for the post!

23-1. Determination. That which cannont be taught. The reult of finding yourself through adversity.

by Alex on Jul 28, 2010 12:55 PM MDT reply actions  

YQW

Imagination is more important than knowledge. A. Einstein

by Ponderosa on Jul 28, 2010 4:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

Very well thought out post. Rec'd

"I cannot give you a formula for success, but I can give you the formula for failure: Try to please everybody."

by bchiper on Jul 28, 2010 1:03 PM MDT reply actions  

Great post Ponderosa. Thanks rec'd.

Another contributor to our collapse last year was our inability to counterpunch. Each game after week six seemed to be a microcosm of the season. Teams would adapt to us and we were unable to reinvent ourselves in another role. I do not know if this is exclusively coaching or if players have some culpability as well.

It all starts in the trenches - HT 11/11/08
Leave the hateful vitriol to the uninformed - HT 3/16/09

by firstfan on Jul 28, 2010 1:10 PM MDT reply actions  

You're right. Early wins included several come from behind victories.

I think maybe we didn’t have the personnel and understanding of the system to allow that to occur. Certainly other teams seemed to have our number after the Ravens game.

Imagination is more important than knowledge. A. Einstein

by Ponderosa on Jul 28, 2010 5:10 PM MDT up reply actions  

Nice

Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks
My ship finally came in, but it was the Kobayashi Maru.

by KaptainKirk on Jul 28, 2010 2:51 PM MDT reply actions  

Enjoyed this post Ponderosa...Thanks and Rec'd as well.

- Become an unshakable optimist by thinking continually of the things you want to happen, and by refusing to think about the things you fear might happen!

by BroncoSense72 on Jul 28, 2010 4:41 PM MDT reply actions  

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