Broncos Trade RB J.J. Arrington To Eagles For LB Joe Mays
The Denver Broncos and Philadelphia Eagles have completed a trade that will send RB J.J. Arrington to Philadelphia for LB Joe Mays, pending physicals. Adam Schefter tweeted as such just a few moments ago:
Denver and Philadelphia agreed to a trade: Broncos trade RB J.J. Arrington to Eagles for LB Joe Mays.
Joe Mays (5-11, 246) is a 3rd Year linebacker from North Dakota State. The Eagles drafted Mays in the 6th Round of the 2008 NFL Draft. Mays was mainly a Special Teams player, starting just one game in his 2 seasons in Philadelphia. He finished 4th on the Eagles last season with 19 ST tackles. Mays will also provide the Broncos depth at linebacker as the team goes through Training Camp. Darrell Reid is still recovering from off-season knee surgery, so Mays might just take his place, temporarily.
Interestingly enough, the Eagles targeted Arrington instead of a running back they know a bit better - Correll Buckhalter. Obviously contract status likely had alot to do with that, and the Broncos must already feel good about their stable of running backs as well as their return game since Arrington provided depth in both areas.
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Hard to judge this trade right now...
…since I don’t know a lot about Mays. We needed more linebacker depth and RB was one of our deepest position, so it makes sense roster wise. Still I was a little interested to see how JJ would compete in camp, particularly for returner.
I agree.
JJ just wasn’t meant to play regular season season down as a Bronco. It kept trying to happen, to no avail. I really though Arrington was going to be good, too.
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Just a swap of surplus/guys they'd given up on I'm guessing
Joe Mays wasn’t going to make the roster this year and the same could have been true for Arrington. If Arrington doesn’t make the Eagles, the Broncos send them a 6th rounder.
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I cant say that i am too happy with this move. This is the 2nd straight year that i have been looking foreward to seeing what JJ can provide in the uncertain return role and as a change of pace back.
I guess we do need a little more depth at LB but if one of our RB’s goes down again, we are slim at that position too in regards to proven players and JJ provided some insurance. It doesnt look like Mays has done much in his career and I hope as i learn more about him, i will like the trade
Coming off his knee injury
I didn’t expect him to add much at all. He’s relatively old and probably doesn’t have that burst at all. Those are generally 2-year injuries.
If we were going to cut him anyway (I figured we would), then we might as well get a pretty heavy LB in return. Perhaps mays could eventually do what Andra Davis did last year.
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Hmm, well i guess peoples opinion on this trade will be based on whether they expected JJ to make the team
I fully expected him to make the roster. MCD seemed to really like him after bringing him back 2 years in a row
by Calibroncoboy on Jul 30, 2010 7:59 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
OR we could have just kept Andra Davis....
I was baffled when we moved him.
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Too bad...
I was interested in seeing how Arrington played…..anyone have any info on this Joe Mays guy?
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I provided about all their is in the post...
3rd year player, has 1 career start. Mostly a special teams guy, and with Darrell Reid still recovering from off-season surgery, the Broncos were a little thin in that department….
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Could this mean...
That the Broncos are interested in Brian Westbrook? Or even Tony Baker for that matter.
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possibly, since he's not being activley courted by Wash., but something is up
I don’t see it as a trade we’d make without having some reason for getting rid of Arrington, and his health could be a possible reason. Having another RB on the horizon would also be a possibility, and we could think much more highly of some of the talent already here.
I’m surprised, I don’t see Mays as a commensurate asset, so there has to be something we don’t know.
no goats, no glory.
I agree, something is up.
I can’t place my finger on it, but I’m sure that we will find out soon enough…..In McD we trust!!
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by Dustin Maul on Jul 30, 2010 10:07 PM MDT up reply actions
Arrington stated
that he was as healthy as he’d felt in 15 months, or something like that.
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by Sayre Bedinger on Jul 30, 2010 10:25 PM MDT up reply actions
During OTAs
One of the coaches came up to Lance Ball and told him not to worry, that the team had plans for him. Apparently, they were telling him the truth. He’s got some size on him – 5’9 and 220. Between he and Toney Baker, we seem to have a nice selection of runners in stock, and with Moreno and Buckhalter as well, I think that we’re in good shape.
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Agree with the young talent
I think Lance and Toney both have made enough of an impact to allow McDaniels to let JJ go. I think he would have been cut anyway. In his press conference the other day I felt like Josh was complimenting JJ just like others I’ve seen right before they are gone. I took him off my expected 53 roster right after seeing that interview.
What kinds of things did he say,
if you don’t mind me asking? I’m curious to know the magic words indicating impending disassociation.
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I was wanting to see what J.J would do in camp.
I don’t know anything about Mays, so I can’t say much else on the matter.
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Good trade
JJ could have been a valuable asset to the Broncos but with the uncertainty with his knee it was good to get another player while JJ was still tradeable.
Sounds like a bit of confidence in Mr. Baker
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this seems to indicate 2 things
1) Bronc’s like their returners and toney baker
2) They don’t like what they have at ilb
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by neckbeard's nephew on Jul 30, 2010 7:59 PM MDT reply actions
They don’t like the depth they have at ilb
Fixed.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Jul 30, 2010 8:49 PM MDT up reply actions
Darn the raiders for taking McClain....
I know, I guess he wasn’t on the Broncos board, but a lot of guys expected us to take him. We wouldn’t have had some more depth then!
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I like JJ but given his iffy-ness to get a solid LB
to help backup, give them depth where they needed it, is not bad at all. I wish Arrington well but this could be a useful deal.
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Mays is 5 11 and 246
So I would guess that will be an inside LB
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Could this possibly mean......
Denver has Brain Westbroook waiting secretly in the wings!? Just a thought….
by northoftheborder on Jul 30, 2010 8:06 PM MDT reply actions
eagles fans seem to like him
I know its not a very official report but it has a decent scouting report on him (or at least it makes him sound pretty good.)
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by neckbeard's nephew on Jul 30, 2010 8:09 PM MDT reply actions
Mays is a guy that die-hard Eagles fans love to see on the field. He’s not so big or fast but when he hits look for a flying shoe or HELMET.
sounds like Nate Webster
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by Dustin Maul on Jul 30, 2010 10:09 PM MDT up reply actions
Ouch.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Jul 30, 2010 11:10 PM MDT up reply actions
Th question is, whose helmet flies -
Mays’ or the guy he hits?
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He's made some big hits
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3gwL69VhM4
theres a few other ones, seemed like a popular guy in philly
his reaction reminds me of Dawkins...
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Aren't we supposed to be consulted prior to any official trade??
After getting Cox and Thompson to compete as a returner, and with the stable of running backs we currently have.. It’s easy to see why we would make a deal like this for a linebacker, a position we’re a little thin at.
I wouldn’t say, “the Eagles targeted Arrington instead of a running back they know a bit better – Correll Buckhalter”. I would say it likely had as much to do with the idea we wouldn’t have given up Buck cheaply.
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I think you are right Alex
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This trade tells me...
that McDaniels has confidence in Baker/Hall/Ball to be able to fill out the RB position, and that makes me feel pretty good. Also, my buddy is an Eagles fan, and he’s not liking the move to get rid of this guy so that makes me feel pretty good too.
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by manbearpig5000000 on Jul 30, 2010 8:12 PM MDT reply actions
Or possibly we could be bringing in Westbrook
by Calibroncoboy on Jul 30, 2010 8:13 PM MDT up reply actions
That would be awesome
but I’m not counting on it
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by manbearpig5000000 on Jul 30, 2010 8:18 PM MDT up reply actions
The article on ESPN says...
“The trade could potentially mean Denver will revisit signing free agent Brian Westbrook”.
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by GoldenNugget on Jul 31, 2010 12:28 AM MDT up reply actions
This trade
probably does not sit well with Arrington who was courted for a full year despite surgery. He really liked the amount of effort that McD put into getting him. Now, we trade him without any sort of notice.
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by manbearpig5000000 on Jul 30, 2010 8:16 PM MDT up reply actions
yes sir it certainly is
I really like that McD made a move to get more LB depth. He is big, physical. I like it. We look to have one heck of a special teams squad with players like: McBath, Bruton, Mays, McCarthy?
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Agreed
I like this trade a lot
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by manbearpig5000000 on Jul 30, 2010 8:24 PM MDT up reply actions
True...
I sometimes forget the value of special teams—we are shaping up to have a VERY dangerous special teams squad!
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by Dustin Maul on Jul 30, 2010 10:12 PM MDT up reply actions
This is a special teams move...
back up ILB is ok too, but this is a special teams position trade….returner (which is covered by young healthy talent) for a punisher on the kicking side.
I’m not sure I fully agree. I think it’s a combination of three factors, but I certainly wouldn’t put the idea that we needed another tackler on STs as the primary reason we pulled this trigger. In my mind, we were overly deep at RB (provided one or two of the young RBs have gained McDaniels’ faith) and we’re too shallow at ILB. We needed additional competion there, and that, IMO, is the primary reason a deal like this would be done.
We traded a position we’re crowded at for a position we’re thin at.
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I agree completely!
Seems like a solid trade that will benefit both teams.
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by Dustin Maul on Jul 30, 2010 11:14 PM MDT up reply actions
taken
I called it special teams move, because I think JJ was holding down a special teams roster spot, more so than a rb spot. The benefit to Mays is a solid ILB back up, with a history of being a valuable special teams player. His potential in a shallow ILB pool is the bonus.
Well, he was probably consulted about it, but still...
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by Tempestuous Binary on Jul 30, 2010 8:51 PM MDT up reply actions
what source?
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There was a Correction. OR conditional 2012 pick. That means if Arrington gets cut, they get a pick instead.
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by Calibroncoboy on Jul 30, 2010 8:26 PM MDT up reply actions
so either way we get Mays
It makes you wonder who do you think initiated trade talks? I’m leaning towards McD if there is that condition like you said.
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Hard to say, but judging based on the condition alone, I’d go the opposite direction. If you’re selling something on QVC then a “money back” type guarantee is a good thing. When you’re trying to sell somebody on a guy that’s been injured you don’t want to say but hey, if he doesn’t work out, we’ll give you something for your troubles in a few years from now… you’ll make them think they need to worry, IMO.
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So if McD started the negotioations....
He has to see something in Mays…..right?
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by Dustin Maul on Jul 30, 2010 10:13 PM MDT up reply actions
Something, sure. But it’s probably just depth and competition at ILB (with upside) and a special teams player.
We’re actually pretty weak at ILB competiion for the backup role(s), IMO. Hopefully Mays can do something about that.
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Hopefully he does pan out.
From what I have seen he hits harder then a freight train! Welcome to the Mile High City Joe Mays!

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by Dustin Maul on Jul 30, 2010 11:18 PM MDT up reply actions
RT @JasonLaCanfora: Broncos trade RB J.J. Arrington to Eagles for LB Joe Mays, straight up. Nothing else involved in trade
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hmm, this report says if he doesnt make the team, they get a pick
by Calibroncoboy on Jul 30, 2010 9:26 PM MDT up reply actions
La Canfora Changed His Tune
And is also reporting that the Eagles would get a 2012 pick if J.J. doesn’t make the roster.
http://www.BroncosNews.com
Lets think of why the Eagles would make this trade?
They think Arrington is better than Westbrook, right?
So why would Denver sign Westbrook?
NO logical reason, right?
This really makes you rethink the RB situation.
Knowshon and Buckhatle are 1/2. Then there is Ball, Hall and, Baker for the 3 and 4 spots. Ball and Hall must have impressed coach enough to make him believe they can be our 3 or 4.
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Someone above mentioned, also, but Westbrook is still out there and we’ve at least talked to him. So it’s got to be a possibility at least. Either way, though, it looks like we’ve still got more depth than we can carry. I’ve got no way to know at this point just how high of quality that depth actually is, though.
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That is an intriuging idea. Don't be surprised if we sign him tomorrow.
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Yeah, it would sort of make sense. We’re way more of a contender than STL. He’ll be reunited with Dawk and Buck, and we wouldn’t need him to be anything near an every back.
Concussions is the worry about Westbrook, IMO, not a step lost. Others may argue, but that’s the way I see it. He could very easily be amazing still, but the reason teams are sceptical to sign him (other than his age) is because of how the league is now going above and beyond to protect against concussions. They worry that if they sign Brian as a #2 back, he bumps his head, he’ll have to sit out for three weeks, or so. But that wouldn’t be a problem for us, IMO. We would be deep enough to get by just fine either way.
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i think Westbrook can still be an effective player
I would really like him as a 3rd down runner. Knowshon, Buck, Westbrook, Baker is much more impressive then Knowshon, Buck, Arrington, Baker
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Neckbeard’s Nephew posted a link above that was written by an Eagles fan on Bleacher Report prior to the 2009 season. They really seem to like this guy a lot, but the writer was well aware that there was no open position for Mays to overtake. He’s a run-thumper and I’m guessing he’ll compete for the strong side inside position with Haggan. The guy looks like he’s got some real potential to me.
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I'm talking to some Eagle fans over at Bleeding Green Nation here is what they have said about Mays:
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In the 2008 preseason he lit it up, but when Stewart Bradley went down last year, he wasn’t able to secure the starting spot. He looks to be as good one can be against the run, but has problems when it comes down to the pass. He is short. I think just below 6 feet. He has strength, but not much speed. Yall might be able to get more from him than us. He can hit though. A very secure tackler.- macjack09
Really came alive on STs in the middle of last year, so there’s that too- DLawrence55
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I found this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nW98PdZuX7Q&feature=fvw
Given that he’s playing ILB (might start, might not), I don’t see his height as a major problem. He does have trouble in coverage, but it seems like they all do – finding someone who can cover and is over 240 seems to be tough. Best of luck to him – STs, sure, and a backup ILB? He could even start – I’ve never been happy with the Akin Ayodele pickup, so perhaps this guy can take his place. He looks like he loves to hit – that’s a big positive
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I’m really going to miss JJ. He has such an impactful and interesting Bronco career.
Really, I couldn’t even tell you his number. I don’t think he ever even played in a preseason. How is anyone supposed to have an opinion about this.
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by McGeorge on Jul 30, 2010 8:27 PM MDT reply actions 2 recs
I have an opinion
Arrington was healing up nicely and he had some real potential. We needed him this year. I just don’t get this move. Really makes me question even more what McD is doing. -Jamie Dukes
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I’d like to hire a boy scout troup that lives in his area to constantly pester him with house pranks.
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if i lived in his area
i would do it for free.
Just put random pictures of McD in his front yard.
Maybe put a Bronco in his backyard.
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microfracture surgery, wasn't it? ...
Often 2 years to recovery, and sometimes not long after to recurrence.
funny you say that. I was thinking the same thing. This might just be a worthless trade if neither makes each other’s final cuts. Yes we need ILB help, but do we really think this is anything other than 2nd or 3rd team ILB help?
Fine, I’ll take an upgrade at any position (regardless of depth chart). I think this is the nail in the coffin in Barrett. Mays is a special teamer extraordinaire apparently.
I dont know what JJ had in the tank, I guess we’ll never know (in Orange and Blue).
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by Orange and Blue on Jul 30, 2010 11:01 PM MDT up reply actions
tis the preseason
a time for opinions,debates and best guesses let us have our fun without too much deep analysis. pass that kool-aid please
Huh. I wonder how JJ feels after all that Bronco-feelgood talk.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Jul 30, 2010 8:46 PM MDT reply actions
Just wondering... there was a lot of good vibes going around when he signed on again.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Jul 31, 2010 8:56 PM MDT up reply actions
*were*
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by Tempestuous Binary on Jul 31, 2010 8:56 PM MDT up reply actions
Seems like reasonable value for Arrington
especially considering his injury history and the traditional short shelf life of RBs
I agree, Larsen shouldn’t get any bigger. I am getting tired of his bone crushing hits knocking the pixels off my TV, once they fall to the floor they are very hard to find.
Plain and Simple:
McDaniels has been preaching about the emphasis of competition at all positions. This move has to stem from that main goal going into Training Camp. McX must feel comfortable with the amount of depth/competition/ability in both his RB and Returner positions (Cox, Smith, McKinley, and Royal offer many starter-quality return men, not to mention the guys we have on the roster that could back up those positions – other WRs and CBs). The RB position has a lot of depth and is filled primarily with guys seeing their second year in this system. Even the UDFAs have had good time on our practice squad and ample study time with our playbooks. For the most part RB’s are plug-n-play. You get the style you’re looking for and insert that guy (or guys by committee) behind your linemen and have at it.
This move makes me feel much better about our RB and Returner depth, and adds a little relief about the level of competition going into our ILB corps as well as another ST option (as arrington probably wouldn’t server much of a role on Kick coverage). Great move, looking forward to see what this guy can do.
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by Alexander Wall on Jul 30, 2010 9:13 PM MDT reply actions 1 recs
P.S.
Philly REALLY needed another RB with these types of skills and style. With Westbrook and Buckhalter gone, they’re pretty thin over there. I love the rookie they picked up last year, but he can’t do it alone. Heck even Westbrook couldn’t do what they want their RB’s to do alone over there (that’s why they had Buckhalter).
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by Alexander Wall on Jul 30, 2010 9:16 PM MDT up reply actions
Especially with an inexperienced QB behind center. They’ll need to be sure they can trust the ground game and the check-down to be sure Kolb’s got the best chance to succeed.
And I agree with your take above, also. We’re thin at linebacker and not so much at RB and return guys… Seems pretty simple. This guy Mays sounds like he’s got some potential as at least a solid backup at RILB (run-thumper), though.
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To answer Mcgeorge's comment
he was number 26….
Sorry to see J.J. go...
…but apparently the RB depth is there.
I enjoyed watching him with the Cards. I even predicted he’d be a fan favorite on a fan post here at MHR.
Sounds and looks like Mays is really strong and very capable with stuff happening in front of him but lacking in his ability to cover players going vertical with speed. ST, goal line, and third and short sounds like his spot…
more playing time
Its very likely jj will get more playing time in philly than denver. I think this trade is good for both teams and both players
Joe Mays seems like a solid tackler...
I think that he is a little “raw” but could develop into something special under the watchful eye of “wink.”
He could be a great run-situation ILB, I’m starting to like this trade more, and more!
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2 down LB that plays ST
I think McD didn’t feel like he has a backup interior LB that could play special teams and that is where Mays fits in.
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by 3nS on Jul 30, 2010 10:27 PM MDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agreed, I really like our special teams unit this year!
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by Dustin Maul on Jul 30, 2010 10:37 PM MDT up reply actions
I like it that
McDaniels seems to take special teams into account on so many of his moves. Special teams is no longer an unloved stepchild.
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Thankfully.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Jul 31, 2010 1:52 AM MDT up reply actions
3rd string MLB
for a 3rd string RB
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My ship finally came in, but it was the Kobayashi Maru.
agree, except this will give the “boot” to another ST’er like Barrett. His days are numbered.
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by Orange and Blue on Jul 30, 2010 11:03 PM MDT up reply actions
Barrett plays S...
…but what about Akin/Nick Griesen?
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by Tempestuous Binary on Jul 30, 2010 11:13 PM MDT up reply actions
I think Greasy is the odd one out
I’m thinking our ILBs will be D.J. Haggen Mays and Ayodaler, and we keep Barrett
by Warren Todd on Jul 30, 2010 11:25 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
You think Woodyard would be cut in favor of Ayodele?
I thought Ayodele and Mays both project to play the LILB position, anyways.
No way
Ayodele beats out Woodyard. Just my opinion. (Evidently yours, too.)
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To be honest
And I’m ashamed, I forgot about Woodyard
I still don’t think Ayodele gets cut, maybe we carry an extra guy or 2 but I think he’s sticking. Although I would actually love if Woodyard was traded to the Texans for something, Woodyard at weakside, Ryans in the middle and Cushing strong side would make them the best 4-3 lb corps in the league I reckon
by Warren Todd on Jul 30, 2010 11:37 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Noooooooo
Not Wesley! He’s my favorite Bronco.
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I like him alot too
Fortunantly for me I like the Texans a lot too! Its gonna happen man!
by Warren Todd on Jul 30, 2010 11:49 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions
Akin vs. Nick
I’d like to see Ayodele on ST’s before judging who’ll be beating out who there.
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by Tempestuous Binary on Jul 31, 2010 1:51 AM MDT up reply actions
@Warren..no no no. NOWAY Akin beats out Woody!
I see Woodyard as the “cover” ILB.
Camp will tell but maybe DJ and Mario with Woody and Joe.
There has to be a reason McX went after Mays!!
We are pretty set in the defensive backfield w/o Barrett IMO – Jones can play safety if need be. I think dropping Barrett opens up a roster slot for mays.
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by Orange and Blue on Jul 31, 2010 8:55 AM MDT up reply actions
Cool trade
Joe Mays could have a bigger impact for us, and could free us to sign Brian Westbrook as well. Looking at this guy’s youtube vids, he looks pretty legit. I’ll take it! Good trade!
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by Sayre Bedinger on Jul 30, 2010 10:38 PM MDT reply actions
I dont see Westbrook as an option.
Moreno, Buck, Hall, Ball and Baker on PS will fill out the RB squad nicely.
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by Orange and Blue on Jul 30, 2010 11:05 PM MDT up reply actions
No way
that’s two guys, one injury prone, that have NFL experience. I like Baker, the other guys have barely stuck around in the NFL the last couple years. If we go into the season with Hall/Ball or both on our squad instead of a healthy Brian Westbrook, the FO is making a mistake.
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by Sayre Bedinger on Jul 31, 2010 12:10 AM MDT up reply actions
we shall see. Your powers to see into the future were validated with the Tebow drafting, yet I hesitate to think you’ll nail this one.
maybe.
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by Orange and Blue on Jul 31, 2010 8:56 AM MDT up reply actions
This guy can hit! will be great for short yard stoppages
sad i wasnt able to see JJ hit the field, but like people are saying before me, he is going to have a chance to play a lot more in philly. good luck to him!
I've miss read McDaniels before...
I’ll be surprised if Westbrook is brought in. I think this just reaffirms a confidence in other options in the return game. Koby Smith was a similar type back to JJ. I see Moreno, Buckhalter, Baker and Smith as our backfield
REALLY WANTED TO SEE WHAT JJ COULD PRODUCE BUT......
I saw some videos of Joe Mays on youtube and the man is a BEAST!!! He plays the run exceptionally well from what I saw. We need that in the middle. He is short like Doom, but has a constant motor. I am excited, our D is gonna be much improved this year and I believe that McDaniels is giving Wink the pieces that he needs to build upon what was established last year.
Still with the the Westbrook talk....
I just don’t see him being willing to play 3rd fiddle, and that’s what he would be with us.
JJ still ahs pretty serious injury concerns, and we were in need of depth at ILB…..looks like a good move.
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That's odd
Considering he has made visits to Washington where they signed 95 RB’s this offseason. Willie Parker, Larry Johnson, Ryan Torain, Clinton Portis, and Westbrook would be much more crowded than Denver, where he would have a lot of opportunity to play to keep Knowshon fresh.
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by Sayre Bedinger on Jul 31, 2010 12:12 AM MDT up reply actions

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