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2010 Denver Broncos Positional Preview - Inside Linebackers

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As opposed to their counterparts on the outside, inside linebackers typically make their impact on games via consistency instead of explosiveness. Rather than making fans jump out of their seats and exclaim "wow", ILBs make opponents wonder just how many of them are actually out there on the field or how they can otherwise be everywhere at the same time. They may not be cornerstones of the 3-4 scheme, but they can certainly become its linchpins. In the case of the Denver Broncos, this position could very well be one of the more underrated parts of any defense in football today. Please follow me below the fold for a closer look at the men battling to hold down the fort at the heart of the Broncos defense.

D.J. Williams

#55 / Linebacker / Denver Broncos

6'1"

242 lb

Miami (Florida)

Acquired: 2004 Draft, 17th Overall

Contract: 2010: $3,000,000, 2011: $4,900,000, 2012: $5,000,000, 2013: $6,000,000, 2014: Free Agent

Born and raised in and about Sacramento, California, D.J. Williams amassed one of those highschool football resumes that appears almost comical. During his senior year, Williams racked up 130 tackles, six sacks, forced five fumbles and recovered three; he also ran for nearly 2,000 yards and scored 42 total touchdowns, including five in the air and four in returns. As one of the nation's top prospects, D.J. chose to attend Miami University in the state of Florida.

Star-divide

Following a limited freshman campaign as the Hurricanes fullback, Williams played linebacker for their national championship team the following year. D.J. then established himself as one of the best LB in the country as a junior and improved on that performance as a senior, garnering consideration for the Butkus Award (presented to the nation's best linebacker) both times while also earning second-team All-Big East and third-team All-American honors respectively. That strong college career compelled the Denver Broncos to select him 17th overall in the 2004 NFL Draft.

Williams had a strong rookie season in the NFL, coming in third for the league's Rookie of the Year Award. In what would become the dominant trend of his professional career to this point, however, D.J. was asked to move - that time from strong-side outside linebacker to the weak-side. After two lack-luster but solid seasons there, he moved into the middle linebacker position vacated by veteran stalwart Al Wilson following his unfortunately premature retirement due to injury. Though he flourished at that spot, the end of the Mike Shanahan era ushered in the return of the 3-4 to Denver under new head coach Josh McDaniels and then-defensive coordinator Mike Nolan. As one of two inside linebackers in the scheme, he finally gained the recognition he's long deserved, being named a Pro Bowl alternate. Though he will enter the 2010 season in ostensibly the same position as that which he executed so successfully last year, his role may change somewhat under new defensive coordinator Wink Martindale. In fact, that variable should be considered when analyzing our entire linebacking corps.

Williams has been a selfless, extremely solid and sometimes spectacular performer for the Broncos and there is no reason to believe that will change anytime soon. If anything, I'd say that D.J. still has another level that he is capable of reaching as he enters the prime of his career. He's the kind of guy that leads by example and he's done a heck of a job doing just that. Having an exceptional player such as him at ILB adds a different dimension to the 3-4 scheme that others might lack. At least at the spot he holds down, Denver has nothing to envy from any other defense around the league.

Mario Haggan

#57 / Linebacker / Denver Broncos

6'3"

267 lb

Mississippi State

Acquired: 2008 Free Agent

Contract: 2010: $1.5 million, 2011: $1.23 million, 2012: Free Agent

Mario Haggan was, like most players in the NFL, a star in high school football. He led his team to a state championship and garnered all-state recognition while doing so. Haggan stayed in Mississippi for college football, attending Mississippi State University, where he eventually broke into the starting line-up as a sophomore linebacker and earned second-team All-SEC honors. Mario was similarly recognized as a junior, this time as a defensive end. For his senior campaign, he returned to his preferred position at LB and made the all-conference first team. Despite his best efforts, however, he found limited team success at the college level.

Haggan was selected by the Buffalo Bills with the 228th pick in the 2003 NFL Draft. After being initially relegated to the practice squad, Mario worked his way onto the active roster later that year and played on special teams. He quickly became a special teams ace and eventually the captain of that unit, playing only sparingly on defense. In 2008, he joined the Denver Broncos, where he was expected to perform in that same vein. The following year, under new head coach Josh McDaniels, Haggan finally earned a starting spot at outside linebacker and was chosen by his peers as a team captain. This offseason, however, he's been moved inside to accommodate the ascension of OLB Robert Ayers into the starting line-up.

While, at first glance, Haggan appears to be quite a big ILB, I think it's a good fit for his skill-set. He's a tough, hard-nosed player that will have no problem shedding some coverage and pass rushing duties in exchange for the dual responsibilities of plugging holes and blowing up plays from the inside. There can be no doubt that he'll give it his all in the execution of that new role and I think he's already established that betting against him is a bad decision. I look forward to his continued steady contributions for the defense.

Akin Ayodele

#51 / Linebacker / Denver Broncos

6'2"

245 lb

Purdue

Acquired: 2010 Free Agent

Contract: 2010: Terms Unknown, 2011: Free Agent


Ayodele continues the trend of low-key acquisitions at the inside linebacker position for the Denver Broncos. After beginning his college career at Coffeyville CC, Akin transferred to Purdue University and quickly blossomed into a star for the Boilermakers. As a defensive end, he received second-team All-Big-Ten honors following his sophomore and junior seasons, and moved up to the first team after his senior campaign. Despite playing only three seasons there, he remains Purdue's second leading sack artist of all-time.

After being selected with the 89th overall pick in the 2002 NFL Draft, Ayodele went on to have four productive seasons for the Jacksonville Jaguars. Unfortunately for him, Akin peaked in his second professional campaign and was out of favor by the end of the 2005 season. He then caught on with the Dallas Cowboys and, in his first experience in the 3-4, had another solid season before his production fell off the following year. In the past two seasons, he played for the Miami Dolphins with moderate overall results. Now in Denver, he's expected to continue to contribute in limited scenarios, but he could expand that role if his performance warrants it.

Ayodele's calling card as an ILB in the 3-4 has been his pass coverage, but he's also shown some consistency with his tackling numbers per game and flashed game-changing potential with turnover creation. If Mario Haggan's move inside fails or even falters, I'd expect Akin to be right in the thick of the race to replace him. As things stand now, don't be surprised to spot him on the field at key times or against particular match-ups regardless of his official role. He could turn out to be one of the most important non-starters on the roster in 2010.

Wesley Woodyard

#59 / Linebacker / Denver Broncos

6'0"

222 lb

Kentucky

Acquired: 2008 College Free Agent

Contract: 2010: $475,000, 2011: Restricted Free Agent


Here's a man who might be without a natural position in the National Football League, but who is otherwise a sure-fire NFL player. It's rare to find a "tweener" that's seemingly halfway between being a safety and being an inside linebacker, but that's exactly what Woodyard is. If there's anything that he is, wholly, it's a fan-favorite: and for good reason!

Wesley Woodyard was the brightest star - Georgia's Defensive Player of the Year according to the Atlanta Journal Constitution - on a high school football team that would go on to win almost as many championships (2) in his time there as games lost (3). After playing outside linebacker in high school, Woodyard switched from safety to inside linebacker as a freshman in college and never looked back. In the following three full seasons at Kentucky, Wesley was named to the second-team Sophomore All-American team and he lead his squad in tackles every season. Despite that stellar resume, questions about his future role led to his being undrafted in 2008.

In his first season in Denver after signing on as a college free agent, coaches found it impossible to keep Woodyard off the field. Wesley excelled in special teams coverage units and made the most of the starting opportunity presented to him by an injury to D.J. Williams. As he had been at the college level, he proved to be an impressive tackling machine. His tenacity, awareness and unrelenting motor made him an effective starter. Despite that, he was once again relegated to a support and special teams role last year and will likely serve as such again in 2010.

It's hard not to root for a guy like Woodyard. I know for a fact that I'm not alone in wondering why Wesley's not given an open-ended opportunity to start, but I've come to the conclusion that he's likely most effective in shorter bursts. It's a luxury to have a player like this on our team and it speaks volumes to the depth at this position. In a lot of ways, he represents what the new management wants out of its depth: versatility, self-sacrifice, hard work and preparation.

Nick Greisen

#58 / Linebacker / Denver Broncos

6'1"

242 lb

Wisconsin

Acquired: 2010 Free Agent

Contract: 2010: $755,000, 2011: Free Agent


Greisen was set to join the Denver Broncos on the field last year, but an injury put him on injured reserve for all of 2009. This season, Nick is gearing up to finally have an impact with his fourth professional franchise. Following a productive four-year college football career at Wisconsin - which culminated in first-team All-Big-Ten honors as a senior - he was selected by the New York Giants with the 142nd pick in the 2002 NFL Draft.

Greisen played for the Giants for four years, serving mostly as depth at linebacker, but also contributing as a special teams player and occasionally starting. He did most of his damage in his final two seasons in New York, racking up 164 tackles, four forced fumbles and three sacks. He spent the next three seasons with the Jacksonville Jaguars (one) and Baltimore Ravens (two) without an opportunity to truly shine.  Along the way, however, he picked up valuable experience and honed the mental aspect of his game. 

Now fully recovered from the serious knee injury that cost him his 2009, Greisen has joined the Broncos with the intention of regaining lost time. Nick's versatility and success in special teams give him a chance to make the active roster, and his experience, intelligence and past production might push him over the top in that race. He might not be called upon to do much for the defense itself, but he's proven in the past that he's up to that challenge as well. Once again, it's become clear that the depth at inside linebacker will be called upon to contribute to more than just their position.

Devin Bishop

#49 / Linebacker / Denver Broncos

6'1"

239 lb

California

Acquired: 2010 College Free Agent

Contract: 2010: $320,000, 2011: $405,000, 2012: $490,000, 2013: Free Agent.

The Bishops have football in their blood. Devin's father, Dennis, played in the now defunct USFL and his brother is currently on the Green Bay Packers roster. He began his college football career at City College of San Francisco, where he was a junior college All-American as a sophomore. After sitting out for a year following his transfer to California and eventually playing only a limited role as a redshirt junior there, he really blossomed as a senior and earned an award as the most courageous defender on the team. Despite lacking elite physical tools, his skills and demeanor convinced the Broncos to sign him as an undrafted college free agent this offseason.

While I don't expect Bishop to stay on the active roster, I imagine that he could be kept on the practice squad if he does enough to impress the team. Devin has experience in the 3-4 with the Cal Bears, so that's a plus.  He's an intelligent young man who has the heart to surprise people if given the opportunity to perform.

Outlook

I believe that replacing Andre Davis with Mario Haggan will be a doubly positive move for the linebacking corps; Robert Ayers should be an improvement over Haggan outside and Mario might well be better than Andre was inside. With a bonafide star like D.J. Williams anchoring the inside linebackers, you don't need another playmaker quite like him to line up beside him. What Haggan should provide is consistency, leadership and work ethic.

Behind the starters, we now find plenty of interesting names. Guys like Wesley Woodyard, Akin Ayodele and Nick Greisen would do well as starters in a pinch, but they'll likely make their impact on special teams and in situational play while they work for an opportunity to expand those roles. Regardless, t's nice to see that, once again, special teams is getting the attention it deserves from the management in Dove Valley.  Keeping all three might be too much, but their versatility (Woodyard has experience at safety, Greisen can play outside, etc.) might make such a decision possible.

It might have been nice to secure the services of one of the many draft prospects at inside linebacker that many off us fawned over this offseason, but I won't lose any sleep over their absence from this roster. D.J.'s contract is a hefty financial commitment to this position, so perhaps we all should have tempered those wishes from the beginning. That said, I'm unequivocably happy with what we do have in tow right now. It's clear to me that this position is begin to reflect the sort of roster that the new administration eventually wants in place and I like it. They may not be flashy, but they all get their jobs done - that "s" is not a typo, by the way - and their teammates love them for it. I have faith in this group.  And so, without further ado, I yield the floor to you and ask: what do you think of the 2010 Denver Broncos' depth at inside linebacker?

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Grade the Inside Linebacker Depth for the Denver Broncos
A
202 votes
B
718 votes
C
386 votes
D
75 votes
F
21 votes

1402 votes | Poll has closed

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Didn't you mean Inside LBers on the poll???

Good up to date article…

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by oc60 on Jul 8, 2010 11:35 AM MDT reply actions  

I Did!

So sorry, and thanks for the heads-up!

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by ejruiz on Jul 8, 2010 12:23 PM MDT up reply actions  

Spenser Larson

don’t sleep on Larson…he will be on the 53 man roster and can come in a play well at ILB

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by 2010oc on Jul 9, 2010 5:37 PM MDT up reply actions  

Graded a C

I like what we have, would’ve been a B or even possible A if one of the starters was also the vocal heart and soul leader of the defense, a la Al Wilson, Brian Urlacher or the hated Ray Lewis.

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by pubkeeper on Jul 8, 2010 12:35 PM MDT reply actions  

Every team needs a vocal leader

But we have Dawkikns. There is no law that says it has to be a line backer that provides that. I will take a Randy Grasdishar type of backer in the middle of my defense any day of the week.

Bui the ponit I wanted to make is that the absence of a vocal leader at this position does nothing to raise or lower the overall depth of the position.

Thought Hagan was one of our most active backers in coming up with big plays last year and I expect him to have a marvelous season. But I don’t know that he is an every down player for an entire game and its good to see we have some people who can step up into this role if called upon.

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by AlanC11 on Jul 8, 2010 12:42 PM MDT up reply actions  

I agree

There’s no rule that says your ILB has to be the most vocal guy on the team. Its great to have leaders in the locker room who can talk guys up and set a tone, but at the end of the day they’re all judged by their play on the field. As a corner back Champ Bailey isn’t said to be an especially vocal guy but he leads with his play, and the guys respect him for it. I’ve heard time and time again that DJ Williams is as respected as any man in that locker room not so much because of what he says but because of his work ethic and what he brings to the table every week.

I feel fairly good about our LB corps overall, it seems that aside from the obvious question of who is going to step up opposite Doom, depth is the real concern. I think that goes for ILB too. I feel pretty good about Williams, but how deep we really are inside overall, only time will tell.

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by TheMastermind on Jul 8, 2010 2:01 PM MDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the summary.

I think there are questions both here and on the outside that training camp should help sort out. I think DJ will be better in his second year at this position and not make so many mistakes as last year. We’re going to need him to be stellar. Haggan will be an upgrade I hope inside and he’s got the right attitude to play this position. He must work well with Ayers to bolster this side of the defense which was a shortcoming at the end of last year. All will be helped by a stronger DL if it works out as planned. Still, not what I would call our area of srength on defense at this point.

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by Ponderosa on Jul 8, 2010 1:42 PM MDT reply actions  

DJ's contract

Is 3 million this year a lot to pay for a starting ILB? I’m just curious.

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by afeather on Jul 8, 2010 2:35 PM MDT reply actions  

doesn't seem terribly high to me...

…particularly for a guy who was a pro-bowl alternate. Its not cheap, but for a quality starter I’d guess (no data to support) that its not too much above average. Remember probowlers at pretty much every position make $5mil+ now. I mean even kickers are making $1.5mil+ these days….

by cjfarls on Jul 9, 2010 8:05 AM MDT up reply actions  

DJ

bring your A game every week! That’s all I’ve got.

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by the new Bradfather on Jul 8, 2010 2:43 PM MDT reply actions  

Love your positions articles, EJ

Good coverage and analysis. Most intriguing among this group for me are Ayodele and Greisen. I heard somewhere that Ayodele has potential in the 3-4 system if his one flaw, inconsistent tackling, is corrected. And that the Broncos think (or hope) that it’s a correctable technigue flaw. Seems to have speed, smarts and agility. And Greisen backed up Ray Lewis for a couple of years and since has not had a chance to play due to injuries. If one of them steps up, that would give us noticeable depth.
The ILBs also should benefit from better front DL play occupying more blockers, giving them more freedom to make plays.
It actually could become a positon of strength. Stranger things have happened.
BTW – rec’d

by ivanthenotsobad on Jul 8, 2010 3:02 PM MDT reply actions  

A all the way

This is, as you rightfully pointed out, one of the positions with the greatest depth.

With DJ and Mario as the anchors, I anticipate some great play from the ILB position, this year – the whole season (and post). It will be crazy to see exactly who lands on the roster, on the PS and not a Bronco, come pre-season.

But at least at ILB, I won’t have any qualms with who is on the roster, as long as three of them are DJ, Mario and Wesley. ( =
Great read, thanks EJ!

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by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Jul 8, 2010 3:29 PM MDT reply actions  

@EJ..thanks

DJ Mario and Wesley seem fixed. IMO it is between Nick and Akin for the 4th spot.
On OLB I have Doom Robert and Jarvis, with Kevin the crasher.
Reid to PUP and Kirlew to PS.
Let camp begin.

by DLMyers on Jul 8, 2010 3:47 PM MDT reply actions  

I have to disagree with the final assessment

While I think Haggan should do fine in the middle, I don’t see him as an upgrade over Davis, especially in the run game. Davis was a thumper and could destroy blocks, where Haggan is not that guy, I think he is more athletic than Davis, but not a better player. Also, while Ayers hopefully will be become a better player with more playing time, at this point in his career I don’t see it as a sure fire upgrade. Ayers is still transitioning to this position and he needs alot of work, it is unseen wether he will ever fully become a natural at the position, I think he really is better suited as a down rusher in a 4-3 scheme, hopefully I am proven wrong on this.

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by Broncoman on Jul 8, 2010 4:34 PM MDT reply actions  

Haggan

I’m not quite sure how to discuss the idea that Davis, who was slower, lighter, at the end of his career and struggled frequently against both run and pass is ‘better’ than Haggan other than by looking at what was done last year. Haggan is being moved to SILB because he was commonly shifted to the SILB on passing downs last year (since Davis couldn’t handle them) and he excelled there. This isn’t a situation where we’re hoping that this works – this is a situation where he’s played that slot effectively and we’re moving there full time.

i’m more concerned about who will fill out the OLB slots than I am about Haggan. He’s done this job at SILB, he did it well, and there’s no reason that I can see to doubt at this time that he can do it again. I don’t worry much about Ayers at this point – all of last year, he improved steadily. He’ll make some mistakes, like any second year player, but he was playing well late in the season, so I expect him to continue to improve. I guess it’s a glass half full or half empty – my own view if that since he was player well later in the season and now he’s more familiar with the system and his role in it, I don’t see why he’d go backwards in terms of his production. It’s the rest of the slots at OLB that i’m more worried about.

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by Doc Bear on Jul 8, 2010 4:49 PM MDT reply actions   2 recs

Ayers

I saw the same thing – as far as seeming to steadily improve throughout the season, although his games with the most tackles were earlier in the season…..

I have more confidence here than that for Alphonso. Though that isn’t saying much (from me, ha ha) as it takes a lot more to develop as a CB vs. a OLB, relatively of course….And I’m waiting to see who snags more INT’s this year between the rookies (playing time % taken into account) and McBath vs. Alphonso…ahem… back to the subject.

Another thing about Robert is, any defensive player who snags six points in their rookie debut (I hope everyone remembers that, one of the positives from that horrible loss to Pittsburgh) is obviously not…. under par, if you will, in my opinion…That fumble recovery returned for a TD is now a Bronco rookie record (54 yarder)….. He also plays well on ST (1 fumble recovery – courtesy of Reid, in the Philly game) so We’ve definitely got another capable, improving, young talent here. Ayers and the other versatile (ST’ers/position switching capability) sure make it a little easier, when it comes roster trimming time.

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by PearlJamBroncoGFunk on Jul 8, 2010 8:49 PM MDT up reply actions  

replacing Davis

I’ve played around with the idea of using Davis’ roster spot and come full circle. My initial idea was to use the roster space created by replacing Davis with Haggan as a void. The roster spot could then be used elsewhere, such as OLB, RB, etc.

The idea of going short at ILB was supported by the fact that we went short last year, when we used Williams, Davis(Haggan), Woodyard and Larsen(on occasion). Keeping a similar configuration with Haggan would have increased our capacity because Haggan has more assignments than Davis.

My idea didn’t gain much (or any) support and I have to say that I see it in different light now, too. The most notable flaw was that it somewhat arbitrarily bestowed a starting position to a OLB (or RB, etc.) and took one from backup ILB. Going that short at ILB may not be wise, but a better way of looking at it is that it favored UDFAs (and an unproductive sub, Moss) over two vets — Ayodole & Griesen.

There are still positional and player value (talent) decisions to be made but two things made the decision to keep 4 ILBs (not counting Larsen) easier — Ayodele’s pass coverage ability, and Greisen’s ability to play OLB. The first allows us to substitute situationally, and pass coverage was an important attribute that Davis lacked and we needed to fill through a replacement. The second — playing OLB — allows us to stretch our OLB numbers, and Haggan’s presence on the roster does this, too.

Perhaps the best reason for staying at 4 ILBs & not 5 OLBs is the problem of using the depth. And it’s still possible we can go with 5 OLBs but it could come at the cost of the 5th RB, 10th DB, 6th WR, etc. There’s hardly any way to put the 5th OLB on the field. Moss didn’t see much action last year, and I believe that part of the reason he did see action was related to injury.

There’s still two considerations that need to be resolved — one, the overall numbers, i.e., whether we go 26/24 again; and two, whether Larsen will see time at ILB again. Keeping 4 ILBs makes Larsen purely emergency depth. which frees him to concentrate on FB and continue to contribute as a stellar ST player. The question of roster numbers is not so easy. Having a full 25 on defense would make the final roster decision much easier but the 26 on offense allows us to carry 5 RBs and adequate depth elsewhere. It’s possible that we can borrow from TE for FB depth but that leaves Baker out and only leaves us with 3 true runners. It’s a tough decision.

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by Colinski on Jul 9, 2010 2:48 PM MDT up reply actions  

EJ Dominates yet again!

Another solid piece in this deliciously monstrous sprawl of looking at our beloved Broncos through every position. Thank you so much!

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by whosenamewillnotbespoken on Jul 8, 2010 10:53 PM MDT reply actions  

Not a flashy bunch of players, but...

with the improved DL, and already strong secondary, I think the LB’s will have more opportunities to shine.

I’m worried about depth at the LB position however. Let’s just hope nobody gets hurt!

Training camp is right around the corner!

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by Broncotodd on Jul 9, 2010 8:34 AM MDT reply actions  

Great job ej

Another solid and informative piece. Rec’d of course.

I think the ILB position is one of the weakest spots on the team. The Broncos have depth, but the question is, do they have enough talent?

Dumervil and Williams need to learn how to be in position to make a play. Doom’s run defense is the polar opposite of his pass-rushing ability and I’m looking for him to show me that he’s worked on it in the offseason.

DJ has been getting by with his talent and his potential, but he better learn his new position already and start playing well. He needs to be equally effective against the pass as the run, which thus far, has not been the case. Yes, he lead the team in tackles last year, but his angle-tackling must improve by not overpursuing, as he tends to do from time to time.

As far as the OLBs, I’m really pulling for Jammie Kirlew to make it as a backup alongside Darrell Reid. Moss may have flashed without pads on in mini-camp, but unless he does a 180 in TC, I won’t miss him when he’s gone. At best, I see him as a situational pass rusher and not much more.

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by Horsepower on Jul 9, 2010 9:40 AM MDT reply actions  

Mistakenly lumped Doom with the ILBs

My concerns span across both OLB and ILB positions.

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by Horsepower on Jul 9, 2010 9:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

Nice post.

I voted that this group would be an average, C, next year, based on their performance from last year. DJ looked…not stellar, and I’m a little nervous about Haggan moving to the inside, but I love WW in those third down passing situations. As for the special teams’ help they provide, I can’t wait to see some of those players help to further improve that unit. I think that they have the potential to be above average, but for right now, since I haven’t seen half of them play the ILB position, I am going to give them a C, but more of a C+.

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by broncoholic on Jul 9, 2010 10:53 AM MDT reply actions  

Thanks for the article EJ

I don’t have a problem with our inside linebackers, I would give them a C+ due to depth at the positon.

From what I see the weakest point of our 3-4 defense is it vulnerability to the outside running game due to our very green outside linebackers. I know they are going to improve this year, but it will be interesting to see how teams scheme against our defense.

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by scottwchicago on Jul 9, 2010 1:25 PM MDT reply actions  

136 votes for A? That is absurd.

Man,136 of you guys are wasted on the Kool-Aid again. When Denver uses a 1st or 2nd round pick on ILB next season, you’ll notice that not even McD thinks we have A quality talent or depth at ILB. We are at best a B or B- at ILB (inc depth).

As a Cane, I’d love my boy DJ to be a better player than he is, but after several years in Denver, the guy is what he is. An above average LB that is NOT a pro bowl talent or producer. As a 1st round pick, he was a hit, but certainly not a home run.

Haggen is an average NFL starter on a good day. Woodyard is an average backup ILB. We need help at ILB.

World Cup officiating reminds me of Bob Slowik's coaching. It’s embarrassing when people in the spot light get promoted well beyond their level of competence.

by McGeorge on Jul 9, 2010 4:52 PM MDT reply actions  

Don't Tase me Bro!

It wasn’t me. Lol.

Character may be manifested in the great moments but it is made in the small ones -- Philip Brooks

by KaptainKirk on Jul 9, 2010 5:29 PM MDT up reply actions  

receivers

i’m off topic but was looking at another site. they were discussing the larry fitzgerald pre-camp in minnesota, larry’s home state. they have brought in a who’s who of the best receivers the game has had. they only caught my eye because one of our own receivers is participating, rookie decker. glad to see he’s trying to be all he can be.

by golfdoc on Jul 10, 2010 12:25 AM MDT reply actions  

Watched the Philly game replay yesterday....OUCH

That was a pretty pathetic day for the LB’ers. Davis looked especially bad, and that could be why he’s gone. Collectively, that was a scary game for all of them. I know it wasn’t indicative of the entire season, but that really sucked to watch us blow that game.

I bet DJ has nightmares of seeing McNabb pull away from him on that 3rd and long scramble. “Why didn’t I just dive tackle him????”

Here’s to hoping the improved DL and more aggressive playcalling will help us this year!

Future 2010 MHR Fantasy Football Champion! ;)

"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence."
John Adams

by Broncotodd on Jul 12, 2010 7:56 AM MDT reply actions  

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