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I am curious about a few things in the article itself:

Healthy team – The Chiefs have been the 4th healthiest team in the NFL over the past three years (according to the FO adjusted games lost metric). Haley’s conditioning program (and the influx of young players since 2008) has to have contributed to this.

Haley has been there for one season…

FO picked safety as the biggest need on the defensive side and center as the biggest need on the offensive side

Safety was a good choice, but Wiegmann didn’t play very well in my book last year. He had more penalties than normal for him, 6, and just looked a lot slower than he looked one year before. Teams facing the Broncos took advantage of the middle of our line consistently. He will be 37 later this month.

They are projecting Tamba Hali to have a season similar to Elvis Dumervil’s 2009

going from 8.5 sacks to 17? He is a good player but I would be hesitant to predict anyone doubling their sack total in one season [unless they only had a couple sacks of course].

Gutting our offense [Cutler and Marshall… are they including Scheffler I guess?] is humorous but I am willing to say the division is weak. Considering we didn’t win games with those players, I hardly see it as a big deal. Gutting would also imply we don’t have anything — we have a lot of youth, who have proven nothing in the NFL at this point but were skilled in college.

Good luck to you all, except against us =)
Hopefully you can win all of your games against the Raiders and Chargers!

by Todd Jewell on Jul 9, 2010 12:52 PM MDT reply actions  

Doom

Went from 5 sacks in 2008 to 17, so the Hali prediction isn’t that outrageous
Otherwise I agree with your problems with the article. I don’t the the Chiefs have the talent or the potential to ever be consistantly dominant in any aspect of the game.

by Warren Todd on Jul 9, 2010 1:55 PM MDT via mobile up reply actions  

Being a Chiefs fan

It’s hard to take not getting any respect at all, but we’ve only won like 10 games in the last 3 years, so i guess we’ll take what we can get. I will promise you that this team is going to come out fired up and pissed off about not getting any respect, and before this season is over, they will earn your respect by play alone.

by CPT.Caveman on Jul 9, 2010 3:26 PM MDT up reply actions  

FWIW...

Comparison between Doom and Hali so far in their careers…

_ Sacks (Doom and Hali, respectively):_

2006: 8.5, 8
2007: 12.5, 7.5
2008: 5, 2
2009: 17, 8.5

Total: 43, 27

Prior to the 2009 season, Dumervil already showed the ability to get double-digit sacks, Hali appeared to have regressed every year. I won’t make any judgements on the future.

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by Tempestuous Binary on Jul 11, 2010 7:42 AM MDT up reply actions  

Championships aren't won on paper.

Ask the chargers.

Comparing Michael Lombardi to Bill Williamson is like comparing an In-N-Out Cheeseburger to a sh## sandwich.

Williamson would probably eat both – no questions asked.

by Joe Medina on Jul 9, 2010 1:22 PM MDT reply actions   1 recs

LOL

But they would sure be right if they were praising your team, right.

by CPT.Caveman on Jul 9, 2010 3:32 PM MDT up reply actions  

I agree

But i think the AFC West is up for grabs by any team in the division, even the Raiders.

by CPT.Caveman on Jul 9, 2010 4:49 PM MDT up reply actions   1 recs

I agree with this statement

however at this time I think Denver has the best chance, San Diego then the Chiefs and Raiders will duke it out for last.

While I think that the free agency and draft all 3 teams (Denver, Kansas City and Oakland) went out and got some awesome prospects, we will see if those prospects turn into a good investment or not.’

I see San Diego as dropping the ball, so to speak during this season.

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by Broncs55 on Jul 9, 2010 6:58 PM MDT up reply actions  

I agree.

Way too many unknowns. Can the Raiders coach their talent? Can SD deal with aging, retraining, and locker room issues? Can Haley figure out how to make the turnaround happen? Who is this new Denver team?

-Harvey J. Neptune

"Practice doesn't make perfect. PERFECT practice makes perfect." - Vince Lombardi

by HarvJNep2n on Jul 12, 2010 3:16 PM MDT up reply actions  

Interesting

I generally think FO does good analysis, and can see a few things that will way heavily against us in their computer projections:
1) End of year collapse… teams that are improving at the end of the year often are teams that finally “got it”, and improve the following season. What they don’t calculate in their projections is WHY the collapse happened… in our case it was a) screwball players no longer with the team, b) lack of depth on d-line (fixed), and c) injuries to o-line and rookie RB hitting the wall (we’ll see).

2) They always have a semi-subjective rating of team stability… it improves the analysis, but is subjective and given they know almost nothing about the AFCW, its likely wrong. So we’ll get penalized for losing Nolan and the hub-bub around Marshall and Doom’s contract, even though IMO these are kinda non-issues in reality.

3) Age decline… they will continue to project our DBs to suck, and eventually they will be right. But because they don’t look at backup quality, they’ll ignore the fact that we have promising players like McBath, Cox, Jones, etc. in reserve.

Last year for many of these same reasons they predicted us with 4 wins… my guess is we can add 2-3 wins to whatever they are projecting for us this year based on things I know they are underprojecting us for, and it will be relatively accurate… My guess is they have us at ~6 wins, so that would be about right.

Also remember their projections only explain about 40% of the variability in a season… so all their projections are basically +/- 50% just on randomn craziness like fumble luck, injuries, etc.

Its interesting that KC is getting the boost in the projection… but understandable too… they had a lot of young guys last year that we realistically should expect to improve, though my guess is they are overrating Weigman, etc. who to me looked totally toast last year, which will hurt both their pass and particularly the run game. In addition, they will give KC a boost for stability, and us a penalty simply because Nolan left, even though I expect both teams to be improved on that front.

Most significant is the projected SD decline… which could make things real interesting.

I expect the division to be very competitie…

by cjfarls on Jul 9, 2010 3:27 PM MDT reply actions  

End of year collapse

I think it was a combination of several things
1- After 6 games teams saw what the Broncos had to offer on both sides of the ball.
Offensive side: Was to throw short passes or WR screens but nothing over 20 yards down the field.
Defensive side: Was to blitz, blitz, and blitz.
More than anything IMO was the fact that you guys got rid of your cancers in the locker room.

by CPT.Caveman on Jul 9, 2010 3:44 PM MDT up reply actions  

Really

it is a joke … Chiefs will be lucky to win 6 games!

by isaiahkyler on Jul 10, 2010 8:09 AM MDT reply actions  

Why try to boast and post it here? lol, sad attempt, not even us Raider fans will come to other blogs to

 post a writers assertions about the our divisional chances. Hey go try and post it on the Charges blog and Raiders blog for us to have a good laugh… we will see what happens once the season starts as we are all at 0-0, enough BS.

The RaiderLaker

by JaggerJaw on Aug 2, 2010 9:50 PM MDT reply actions  

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