Reality vs. Fantasy Football
It is that time of year, Broncos fans... Fantasy football time. Yes, preseason is starting, too, but if you want a little distraction, living in a world of fantasy football is an enjoyable pastime. Every year, people participate in fantasy football drafts. You don't need to look far to see evidence of this. Just look through MHR's fanposts and fanshots and you'll see that many are involved in fantasy football and you could choose to play with MHR members, if you choose.
So, with all of the talk surrounding fantasy football and the vast participation over the last few years, it begs the question... Is there a place for fantasy football in the minds of real football fans or is it just a distraction?
I know that many of you are fantasy football gurus, while many others are football purists who despise the word "fantasy". No matter which camp you fall under, I think it is very important to recognize the differences and similarities of reality and fantasy. Only when we determine this can we determine whether or not fantasy football has some deeper meaning than it holds currently as one of the nation's most popular games.
For the record, I am both a fantasy football nut and a football purist. I love both. In a way, I'm like a little kid with food on their plate. I don't want my green beans and ham sandwich to touch just like I don't want my real football and fantasy football to mix. Sometimes it can be difficult to keep fantasy football opinion and real football opinion separate because, let's face it, fantasy football and real football are very different entities. However, I believe that it can be done. You can separate reality from fantasy and enjoy both of them.
To enjoy them both, it's important to understand the boundaries of each. You don't want your fantasy football opinion to spill over into your real football opinion. So, to keep them separate, it's important to first analyze how they are different. We'll do that by looking at the responsibilities of each position, both in fantasy football and real football. What qualities are we looking for in a player when we go into our fantasy football draft and how is it different from what we are looking for when we examine a real football player?
Quarterbacks
For quarterbacks, in fantasy football, you want a guy that is going to throw a lot of touchdowns and gain a lot of yards. Wins don't matter, 3rd down conversions don't matter, and (sometimes, depending on your league rules) redzone interceptions don't matter. If you want a successful fantasy quarterback, you want a guy who is going to put up a lot of points and throw the ball all over the field. Your top tier passers are great for fantasy football. If you have a chance to draft Drew Brees, Peyton Manning or Aaron Rodgers, you are probably going to have a fairly happy fall. Like I said before, though, wins (in real life) don't matter. That explains why gunslingers are still a great option in fantasy football (Jay Cutler, Brett Favre), especially if there aren't a lot of points taken away for interceptions. You don't have to win the game to get fantasy points.
For quarterbacks, in real life, you want a guy that is going to throw a lot of touchdowns and gain a lot of yards... without turning the football over. This is probably the biggest difference in fantasy versus real life. In fantasy, most leagues make an interception count for -2 points and a TD counts for +6. This means you can throw 2 TD and 5 INTs and still have a positive (+2) fantasy football day. In real life, if you throw 2 TD and 5 INTs, your team probably didn't win. If you throw a bunch of interceptions, in real life, you don't win a lot of games. If you read The Dude's articles, you already know that.
Runningbacks
In fantasy football, you want your running back to consistently run for 100 yards and score as many TDs as possible. Adrian Peterson is the runningback that everyone wants to draft. However, after the top backs in the league, who should you look at in your fantasy draft? Well, you want to look for a guy who is a starter, first of all. You want a guy that is not taken out of the game when the offense goes into the redzone (scoring touchdowns is important). If you find a guy that is put into goal line situations and scores a lot of touchdowns but doesn't get a lot of yards (Mike Alstott type), draft him. Another very important thing to think about when drafting a runningback is the team he is on. If a team is terrible and falls to an early deficit, they are put into pass-only situations and the runningback won't be utilized as much. Preferably, your running back should be from a team that wins more than 6 games per year (the only exception, of late, seems to be Stephen Jackson because he is the rams' only source of offense).
In real football, you want your runningback to run for a bunch of yards and score as many TDs as possible, as well. However, it is still different than fantasy. You may have a different runningback for different situations. Perhaps you have a RB for first and second downs and then you have a different runningback for third downs. Some offenses even change runningbacks when they go into a goal line situation, also. The most popular trend in the NFL seems to be the two-back offense. Moreno and Buckhalter are a prime example from 2009. While neither of them was particularly outstanding in fantasy football, together they were able to accumulate a pretty decent rushing attack. The two-back offense is not ideal for fantasy football, which is why teams like Denver and Miami consistently upset fantasy owners, year in and year out.
Wide Recievers
In fantasy football, you want a receiver that can rack up as many yards and as many TDs as possible. This position is probably most related in fantasy football and real football, although I wouldn't dare say that they aren't totally similar. When drafting a WR in your fantasy football draft, you always want to take the quarterback into account, as well. For example, as dominant as Larry Fitzgerald is at his position, the loss of Kurt Warner to retirement may hinder fantasy owners from drafting him early in the draft. While he will still be a starter on most fantasy rosters, many people will think twice about drafting him in round 1 or early round 2 (depending on the size of your league). On the other hand, a quarterback like Peyton Manning can make a guy like Pierre Garcon into a weekly fantasy starter.
The type of fantasy league scoring is also important, here. If your league counts receptions, then you may want to get a possession receiver such as Brandon Marshall or Wes Welker. If your league doesn't take receptions into account (only yards and TDs), then you would look for a vertical threat such as Percy Harvin or DeSean Jackson.
In real football, you are looking for a receiver that scores TDs, picks up first downs, and draws defenders to his side of the field. Unlike fantasy football, you have multiple wide receivers running the same offense. If a different receiver makes a catch in real football, you aren't upset because the offense as a whole will benefit from it. As a fantasy owner, if your receiver isn't making every reception then you get upset. So, the primary difference between reality and fantasy is depth. In real life, you want depth. In fantasy football, you don't want depth.
Tight Ends
In fantasy football, you want a receiving tight end. Blocking will earn you no points. That really cuts down on the amount of tight ends that could have a fantasy impact on a week to week basis. In real football, you may want a number of different things. Some teams like to put tight ends right on the end of the offensive line and use them as extra blockers while others use their tight ends as a glorified wide receiver. Then there is a myriad of options in between. It really just depends on what kind of offense the team is running. Are they a running offense like a Baltimore or NYJ? Do they line up in the shotgun a lot like Indianapolis or New Orleans?
There is really no right or wrong answer on how to use a tight end in real football. It just depends on the style of football that you want to play. However, there is a very wrong way to draft a fantasy football tight end. If you are looking for a blocking tight end on your fantasy football team... well... you are welcome to join my fantasy football league.
Kickers
For fantasy football, you want a kicker who earns a lot of points and, preferably, hits long field goals. Many leagues award 3 points for all field goals, 4 for field goals between 40 and 49 yards, 5 for field goals 50+ yards and 1 point for all extra points. Obviously, a kicker who can knock it through from 40 or 50 yards out is preferred. What I like to do when I am looking for a fantasy kicker is eliminate kickers outside the top 15 in accuracy. Then, I target a kicker who is on a team that has a decent offense but consistently stalls out once they reach the red zone. This ensures that you can still put 3 points on the board, but you aren't having to kick PATs all the time.
In real football, you just want accuracy. There is no two ways about it. Yes, you want a guy that can put it through the uprights from 40 or 50 yards away, but you aren't looking to consistently test out his leg. You want touchdowns and you want extra points in real football. If your kicker scores more points than your QB/WR/RB/TE, then you probably aren't doing very well on offense.
Defense and Special Teams
In fantasy football, you want a defense and special teams that doesn't give up a lot of points and also makes a lot of game changing plays. A fumble, sack, interception or defensive touchdown is what you want. Although, I have yet to see a league that awards points for 3rd down stops or passes defensed.
In real football, you want your defense to stop the offense and you want your special teams to earn you some solid field position each and every time they are on the field. A turnover is great, but it isn't mandatory. Defensive or special teams touchdowns are great, but they aren't mandatory (that's what your offense is paid for). The defense and special teams are designed to give the ball back to the offense. If they do that by stuffing the run 3 times, that's a success in real life. In fantasy football, that earns you 0 points.
Winning the Game
In fantasy football, most leagues don't award points for winning the game. In real football, that's the main goal of every team. This is one of the biggest disconnects between reality and fantasy. Didn't Herm Edwards once say "You play to win the game"? Well, I always thought it was important, as well. I believe there should be some way that wins are involved. If Jay Cutler throws for 3 TDs and 4 INTs and loses the game while David Garrard throws 1 TD 0 INTs and wins, there should be some indication in the fantasy points. Maybe I'm just bitter because of my fantasy loss last year...
Final Answer
Can fantasy football and real football coexist? I think they can. Although, understanding the differences between the two entities is very important if you are going to partake in both during the fall and want to keep your opinions separate. Just because you're a 2 time fantasy football champion doesn't mean you are an expert when it comes to real football and vice versa. They are two separate animals and they need to be treated as such. Yes, there are similarities, but they are few and far between.
After all these differences that I have listed, you may be wondering if there are any benefits to playing fantasy football. Well, I'll tell you the biggest reason that I play. Fantasy football makes you watch more football. The more exposure you can get, watching a football game, the more knowledgeable you will become as a fan. Fantasy football is a great excuse to watch more football and not turn off the television when the Broncos are no longer on.
Draft wisely, my friends, if you're into that...
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HATE and very proud to make this vote.
Isn’t there another site(s) for fantasy football where bros can go and celebrate, worship and waste countless hours over individual stat accumulation in a team sport setting.
Denver: 32-32 until we're not.
by McGeorge on Aug 10, 2010 11:51 AM MDT reply actions 5 recs
That's fine. It isn't for everybody.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
If someone owned an ICEE truck and wanted to kidnap me, I'd let them.
by Troy Hufford on Aug 10, 2010 11:53 AM MDT up reply actions
Well...
Nothing is for everybody. LOL
You're either a fan or you're not.
by TheMastermind on Aug 10, 2010 12:03 PM MDT up reply actions
It’s not for a lot of us.
It doesn’t belong at MHR unless its a fanpost.
Denver: 32-32 until we're not.
by McGeorge on Aug 10, 2010 1:31 PM MDT up reply actions 2 recs
Totally agree
It’s bad enough all the fantasy crap gets scrolled across the screen during games. Definitely don’t want to have to sort through it on MHR.
Again, I never said this was a series.
Truthfully, I don’t understand what all the fuss is about. It’s an article that describes the differences between fantasy football and real football. I didn’t preach to you about how fantasy football is the cat’s pajamas and you should play and invite 20 other people to play, as well. I just wrote a piece that interested me and that’s it. Half of the people liked it and half didn’t. No big deal.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
If someone owned an ICEE truck and wanted to kidnap me, I'd let them.
by Troy Hufford on Aug 10, 2010 7:30 PM MDT up reply actions
problem is, its A 50-50 SPLIT
why should MHR cater to only your demands?
Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.
The guy formerly known as ZAPPA
in my mind...once a week isn't shoving your faces in it and it gives those of us who like fantasy football a once a week look
Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.
The guy formerly known as ZAPPA
Making 5th rec
Fantasy football is anti-football. It is all about flash and individual achievement. It dilutes your team loyalty and makes you watch for big plays, not trying to understand the whole game and many subtle things that happen on the field. If you are a football fan, there are always more and more layers to your understanding of the game. Fantasy? It’s to a large degree about who stays healthy and who becomes a starter filling in for an injured player.
Well thought out and written,
although I think there needs to be an “I love it, but I’m indifferent to most articles about it unless you are ranking the top 10 picks at each position so I can rule my FF league this season……” button….
"I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work."
- Thomas Alva Edison
"Success is not a place at which one arrives, but rather... the spirit with which one undertakes and continues the journey."
- Alex Noble
by DenBronx on Aug 10, 2010 11:58 AM MDT reply actions 1 recs
Yep...not interested in FF one bit....and I want to see NO articles on it here at MHR. Good article though KB...just voicing my opinion!
You, my friend, are proof you dont need to have big floppy feet and a red nose to be a clown!
"I actually watched the World Cup. I HATE baseball. Hockey’s over. Hey, at least we have the WNBA. Oh, man. I’m making a noose. Want one?"
Harv Neptune.
I'm not making a FF series throughout the season or anything like that. This was just something I was thinking about and threw together.
I respect all you guys and your opinions but I don’t think that fantasy football needs to be such a taboo, either.
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
If someone owned an ICEE truck and wanted to kidnap me, I'd let them.
by Troy Hufford on Aug 10, 2010 1:26 PM MDT up reply actions
Hate it.
I could go into why, but it doesn’t matter. Why start something. Hate it, hate it hate it. LOL
You're either a fan or you're not.
Enjoy it a lot, and for the exact reason you stated...
Fantasy football makes you watch more football. The more exposure you can get, watching a football game, the more knowledgeable you will become as a fan. Fantasy football is a great excuse to watch more football and not turn off the television when the Broncos are no longer on.
I didn’t watch near the amount of total football before I started playing fantasy football that I do now. Now, even “boring” games like a Lions versus Rams contest can be interesting to watch. If you don’t like it, I get that. I didn’t think much of it until I tried it out, and now I love it. I have heard that same sentiment quoted by many people that I know.
Heck, now I’m at least familiar with secondary wide receivers, committee and backup running backs and defensive strategies for nearly every team in the NFL. I couldn’t say that before I started playing fantasy football.
Take my advice... I'm not using it!
"If you can't be kind, at least have the decency to be vague."
by BroncTastic on Aug 10, 2010 12:27 PM MDT reply actions 2 recs
Same here!
Those are my exact reasoning’s for loving FF!!
"I used to fight the pain, but recently this became clear to me: pain is not my enemy; it is my call to greatness."
"Victory belongs to the most persevering." --Napoleon.
LOVE IT!!!
For the sake of unity, maybe it could be in the “fan post” section instead of the main page. Well written though!
"I can do all things through HIM who gives me strength"
"Death had a near Chuck Norris experience."
by BroncoCountryHawaii on Aug 10, 2010 12:31 PM MDT reply actions
Fantasy football has its place
obviously, considering the following it enjoys. Let those who wish to partake do so on fantasy football sites though. It is a nuisance the amount of space NFL.com allots to fantasy football. Don’t let that happen at MHR. That would be akin to cluttering a UFC site with pro wrestling nonsense articles.
haha! I like the UFC-pro wrestling analogy!
"I can do all things through HIM who gives me strength"
"Death had a near Chuck Norris experience."
by BroncoCountryHawaii on Aug 10, 2010 12:34 PM MDT up reply actions
honestly i just like drafting...
…after that it’s just sort of a see who had the best draft and who has the best source of news for the people that didn’t get drafted :D watching for breakout performers and whatnot
I like it because
I have friends all over the states and this brings us together. They actually plan their family vacations to hawaii to have a draft party at our house! Priceless times.
"I can do all things through HIM who gives me strength"
"Death had a near Chuck Norris experience."
by BroncoCountryHawaii on Aug 10, 2010 12:40 PM MDT reply actions
Fantasy football can be cool.
It helps to make the games that the Broncos arent playing in a little more interesting. It can also help you decide who you are going to route for in an otherwise meaningless game, (for example if you have a fantasy player on one of the teams, and need a few extra points to beat your opponent that week) I guess this point has been made in the article already. I dont love fantasy football, but I do use it to “overload” on football. And why not. It’s only 5 or so months out of the year we get to enjoy actual games.
Bronco Champions are being forged as we speak.
I've always enjoyed the concept of ff, but...
The only way I could fully participate would be to be retired or permanently unemployed. To play ff with a full time job would leave no time for family and the honey do list. It’s way too involved for a full time participant in life.
"People who live in glass houses...shouldn't."
I would generally spend 2 hours a week,
At the absolute most on my FF team. I guess it depends on what you want to do. Roster adjustments are locked on Friday nights, generally. You set it up, and watch what happens after that.
Bronco Champions are being forged as we speak.
by BroncoRick69 on Aug 10, 2010 12:51 PM MDT up reply actions
I don't hate it, per se. I just don't participate
I’ve been in pools before, and I would then watch more football, but if the guy I was watching had a bad day, I’d turn it off anyways. I would get downright upset and that’s not good for me or my family. :)
I certainly don’t get the enjoyment from watching my RB going over 100 yds with a TD as I do for a simple Broncos victory.
It takes neither courage nor intelligence to cheer for a team only when that team wins. The true test of a fan's mettle is the same as it is for a player: Were you there when you were needed?
aka Solace
I'm a FF NUT!!
I’m currently in 8 different leagues, but I also consider it a money making opportunity. I made a nice little chunk of change on it last year so I took my family to Estes Park for the weekend. The girlfriend doesn’t necessarily like it but she likes weekends in Estes Park.
Fantasy sports has done wonders for the world of sports. You get people who don’t normally watch lets say the Texans, watch that team so they can see Andre the giant in action. I used to HATE Peyton Manning but I love having him on my FF team so I dont mind the Colts (Unless they play the Broncos).
It’s Marketing genius, and it makes you learn alot more about the sport itself.
Jayrockstone: I have a full time job and manage 8 league teams. It can be done my MHR friend.
"Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."
Vince Lombardi
To add to that......
I don’t see the point in keeping your love for FF and your love for reality football separate. My love for FF has broadened my love for football in general. I will always be a Denver Bronco fan, but i’m a bigger fan of football in general.
"Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."
Vince Lombardi
by Denver_Native on Aug 10, 2010 1:09 PM MDT up reply actions
You don't have to keep your love for them different, just your opinions.
It stems from the origin of the MSM catchphrase “franchise QB”. Guys that have good fantasy numbers aren’t necessarily quality football players (Jay Cutler), but somehow the distinction between fantasy and reality seems to be lost in translation somehow and these players are magically “franchise players”…
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
If someone owned an ICEE truck and wanted to kidnap me, I'd let them.
by Troy Hufford on Aug 10, 2010 1:17 PM MDT up reply actions
"separate" not "different"
If Taylor Swift were to try and tackle me, I'd let her.
If someone owned an ICEE truck and wanted to kidnap me, I'd let them.
by Troy Hufford on Aug 10, 2010 1:21 PM MDT up reply actions
By the way..
Nice article Ky, great idea for an article…..Rec’d
"Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."
Vince Lombardi
by Denver_Native on Aug 10, 2010 1:27 PM MDT up reply actions
more fantasy football
haters will hate… see above
"Have you ever heard of the emancipation proclamation?"
- "I don't listen to hip-hop"
Between Matthew Berry and the rest of the FF nerds (me included), there is already a ton of info out there.
I enjoy FF and rooting for Broncos immensely. However, I must say, it has made me more distracted when watching the Broncos. When they’re cutting away to a hightlight, there are few better feelings than when your 3rd WR just caught a bomb for TD.
Always remember Goliath was a 40 point favorite over David.
-- Shug Jordan
by Orange and Blue on Aug 10, 2010 2:01 PM MDT reply actions
…apart from a 1st down catch or a 3rd down stop on defense from Denver.
Always remember Goliath was a 40 point favorite over David.
-- Shug Jordan
by Orange and Blue on Aug 10, 2010 2:48 PM MDT up reply actions
Matt Willis......
Might be good and all, but he’s hardly cover photo material for a FF article. lol…just sayin
"Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."
Vince Lombardi
Dude it's the caption that makes it
Quitter's People United Member #396
Because Montana has no professional sports, I gotta support the land of my birth.
Socrates was once executed for 'trolling'.
^Needs explaining: don't call someone asking uncomfortable, slightly antagonistic questions *for the purpose of learning* trolls. It's real easy to differentiate a 'Socratic' post from a trolling one.
Read the caption......
But dude, what does it make?
"Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."
Vince Lombardi
by Denver_Native on Aug 10, 2010 3:21 PM MDT up reply actions
When
I was listening to WIP in Philadelphia at work Monday, I heard the afternoon host, Howard Eskin, saying FF was bad because it compromises a fan’s integrity (i.e, if during a Broncos-Chargers game, if any MHRer were to draft Philip Rivers, perish the thought I know) as it causes them not to be so passionate about cheering on their teams. This requires discipline, so while I play fantasy football, my heart belongs to the Broncos, end of story.
Brad James
by the new Bradfather on Aug 10, 2010 2:20 PM MDT reply actions
When I'm watching a Broncos game....
I say, “Forget Fantasy Football!!” I just want the Broncos to win the MF’n game!!!
"I used to fight the pain, but recently this became clear to me: pain is not my enemy; it is my call to greatness."
"Victory belongs to the most persevering." --Napoleon.
Agreed, I enjoy playing fantasy, but I would never root for my fantasy team over the Broncos. In fact I don’t know anyone who actually does, unless say their team was out of playoff contention and they are going to the win their league. Which, depending on the prize can be understandable.
I really wouldn’t take what Eskin says to heart anyway, he likes to stir up controversy. He’s just a troll with a microphone.
You ain't a has-been, if you never was.
It's really bad....
When you know the Chargers are playing the Broncos and you throw in LT because the Broncos run D sucks……
Hoping LT has a great game, but the Chargers lose in the end. This was 3 years ago though…Thankfully nothing to worry about anymore.
"Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence."
Vince Lombardi
Overall, I would have to say that I'm indifferent to fantasy football
My biggest reservation about it is that it appears to have created a large group of fans who judge their real life football team by fantasy football league rules. IMHO, this is why "game manager QBs (and for what it’s worth, I detest that term) like Kyle Orton often get short shrift among fans — the fans are using fantasy football league concepts to judge the performance.
KB you did an excellent job of delineating the differences between the two. Thanks for a thought-provoking post.
We live in an age when instant gratification isn't fast enough
It is an NFL ploy to make you buy more
It is not football. It makes you buy more coverage and stay glued to TV. But you are not watching football. You are looking for individual performances not in the context of how they help the team win – but how many fantasy points they bring. The game appears to be the same, but the scoring rules are different. Isn’t that crazy?
I love fantasy football...never once cost me a dime.
Nor do I care in the context of my team winning. I understand is was the NFL’s way of reeling in the casual fan.
Verbose in style, dispersion of thought, procrastination in life.
The guy formerly known as ZAPPA
I like fantasy football
I got into it about 3 years ago to give it a shot. I stayed away from it for awhile because I thought it was weird to have players that played against the Broncos. I gave it a shot just to have some fun with it so I continue to play. It makes watching a meaningless game a bit more interesting.
While we are on fantasy football. Are people still in that flea flicker league? If so when is the draft because I didn’t see anything the last time I was on there.
Floyd Little: HOF Class of 2010.
2009-10 back-to-back NBA Champions L.A Lakers
2009-10 NBA Finals MVP Kobe Bryant
Love FF....But it will never be more important than a Broncos win.
It has most definitely made me a more knowledgeable fan of the game.
I’ve been playing for years, way back before there were online drafts etc.. We used to be forced to wait until the Monday papers came out to tally up the stats/score….It’s great fun! I’ve been a champion twice in a league I’ve had with the same friends for 10+years. I rarely seek out so called “expert” fantasy advice. I’m usually better at just watching the trends myself on Sunday Ticket. I spend maybe 2-3 hours a week in FF prep, and that’s over the course of several days. I consider myself an expert fantasy player, but I could never hope to explain in depth the differences in defensive formations, like some on this board do…..I really appreciate those who can do that!
I will NEVER EVER root for a player who the Broncos are playing against, over the Broncos. That’s where the line is drawn. Sometimes I even go as far as benching that player for the week.
I think it can be great fun, and kept completely separate from real football.
Future 2010 MHR Fantasy Football Champion! ;)
"Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence."
John Adams

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